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Friday ratings. 2.25 Exeter. Sans brut.158.11/2 Scarface.157.11/1. 3.35. Tightenurbelts. 145.9/2 Egbert. 142. 7/1. 2pts win on all 4 selections and 1/2 point r.f.c. both races. 4x cross doubles.

November handicap Well my friend was laughing saying 24 runner pin sticker ....you've not a prayer 🙏....but I rated it and surprisingly the computer put 2 clear Chillingham ......10/1 Lord Melbourne. 14/1 It's an unbelievably hard race but I'm happy to play Ew with 6 places .....5 PT Ew both

Saturday ratings. 1.30 Aintree. Willaston. 156. 10/1. Harbour lake.9/2. 2.40.outlaw peter.155.10/1. Authorised art.151.16/1. Harpers Brook.151.10/1. 12.07. Kelso. Harper Valley. 146. 5/1. Forged well.141.7/1. 2.35 donny. Mr bluebird. 116.16/1 Woven.111. 11/1. 3.45. Valvano. 115. 6/1 Insanity. 113.11/1. 1.09 Wincanton. Beau balko.143. 5/2 Killer Kate.139.5/1. 3.30. Forward plan. 138.15/2 Gustavian. 133.20/1. 8.30. Chelmsford. Felix.115. 12/1. Westridge. 108.7/1. 5.00. Top button.104.10/1 Writhe of Hector.100.5/1. 2pts win,10/1 and over 1pt e.way. and 1/2 pt r.f.c all races.

Adjuvant 3 45Don 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1 Stressfree 3 45Don 1/40th of a pt ew 14/1 -7th Frero Banbou 2 40Ain 1/40th of a pt ew 10/1 Simple Sondheim 3 45Don 1/40th of a pt ew 100/1 Alcazan 2 35Don 1/40th of a pt ew 66/1 P/L + 180.70 pt

Tightenourbelts 3:35 Exeter (11/2 Betvictor / Hills). Well handicapped if confidence is back. Heavily backed at Chepstow last season off 5lb higher but had no confidence at the jumps. Looked like a promising prep run over hurdles last month. Cobden booked. 2pts win 11/2 P/L: +7.9pts. Great ride from Cobden won that. Nice to actually get a winner but the R4's killed it, I only got paid out at 2.2/1, when it started at 7/2, which is a bit of a joke, but then again the fav might well have won.

I went with: Rock 28/1 Wade 50/1 Lukeman 150/1 I'm also thinking about Lukeman, Scutt or Wattimena for group winners... those group matches are short, and IF the mentioned players are in form that day (big IF) they might do it.

With the season drawing to a close, it is interesting to see those (not involved in Masters top 8), that are still playing and giving it max effort. For Shapovalov to still be in Europe shows me that he is committed and playing well. If he had checked out he would have been gone a week ago. I think similar applies to Bonzi and Norrie, who have been injured/had weird or poorish seasons. They are putting the effort in here, but will also want to keep the level for the next 5 weeks. Even if the level drops slightly, keeping your fitness is NB. The Aussie Open swing warms up in late Dec/Jan and is around the corner. Shapovalov to beat Lehechka. I think Norrie has the court craft to handle Moutet, who is just such a baby on court. It is a good match-up for him. Give Moutet 30 minutes and he will throw a strop and have a tantrum. Moutet is always playing the victim, and I'm hope Norrie victimizes him. I also like Djere to win and Michelsen to beat Medjedovic. The way Gauff played yesterday, I would give her no chance to beat Sabalenka. Just the expression on her face, and furrowed aggrevated brow, says it all. She is not enjoying her tennis. Her movement on the court was awful (looked like she was ice skating), and the body position on the forehand ... just terrible. The number of easy 2nd serves returns she hit long yesterday was insane. She must have missed 8 or 10 forehands on the 2nd serve return yesterday (she lost 11 of the 12 break points she had). It was a really poor match where 1 player was just worse than the other. I would also think that Zheng beats Krejcikova. Krejcikova moves really badly for a top athlete. Zheng will not make 45 unforced errors in 20 games. I play cross court 10's with my mates and we can hit 18 shot rallies easily ( and relatively we are useless). Yesterday every 3rd ball went 2 meters long, or in the bottom of the net, or 8 feet wide on the tram line. Some serves were 3 meters out (claose to the base line). It was absolute rubbish, and coupled with Kasatkina being flattened was an awful days viewing for the paying public.

I've been trying to win a mug for 4 years in the naps comp, doesn't say much for my tipping skills !

hello all here's my give up my coffee bet for the weekend with PP been looking at this market and player to commit 1 or more Fouls in first half only with pennies also trying to see if a bigger stake on one player to more or less double your money E.G.the players below a single would be Idrissa Gueye @2.63 Accumulator (x1) 195.62 Idrissa Gueye @2.63 Player To Commit 1 Or More Fouls In Each Half - West Ham v Everton Georginio [email protected] Player To Commit 1 Or More Fouls In Each Half - Brighton v Man City Alexis Mac [email protected] Player To Commit 1 Or More Fouls In Each Half - Liverpool v Aston Villa Manuel [email protected] Player To Commit 1 Or More Fouls In Each Half - Man Utd v Leicester Wesley [email protected] Player To Commit 1 Or More Fouls In Each Half - Chelsea v Arsenal Stake £2.50 Potential Returns £486.54 good luck what ever you do

Good luck guys Think in the opening round matches that Dave Chisnall will bounce back to form Think Scutt is a good prospect but has been heavily defeated by Chisnall both times they have met 1.67 with William Hill

He sends his best wishes (via his wife) and is on the mend 🤞.

The mugs and pens are great. The mugs used everyday on the building sites. I play golf now and again so a golf umbrella would suit me. Also a decent calendar would be great especially one with the racing fixtures on it. The way I'm tipping at the moment it won't make any difference what the prize is. Cheers Tony

System selections

Well I was expecting about 6 or 7 horses bunched and that happens ......I can't believe it's that easy with 24 runners but hey it's Saturday let's have some fun 😂

Hope your right with Chillingham backed it last night at 14's e/w 6places but its a cracking race and puzzle to solve. the other one i like is Oneforthe gutter i just wish trainer had of put an apprentice on top to take a few more lbs off. More likely to be placed as is than win but worth an e/w tickle at 28/1imo.

An incredible day's racing at Flemington in the hours of the morning with 3 Group 1's and plenty to look forward to R3 - 2.50am This is the G3 Queen Elizabeth Stakes and the former Jessica Harrington trained Kinesiology makes his Oz debut for Chris Waller. He has won once and finished 2nd in 5 of his other 7 starts. He did pass the post in front though in the Vinnie Roe at Leopardstown in August only for him to lose the race in the stewards room. His jockey was certain he was on the best horse and he then finished 2nd again in a G3 on Irish Champion Stakes day. He is already near the head of the betting for next year's Melbourne Cup and he could prove too good here, but I am going to take him on. Must admit I never thought I would be backing for Derby winner Serpentine, but he does look like he has very solid claims here. He's been in good from in 3 of his last 4 starts and he was very good in the Moonee Valley Cup when 2nd to Okita Soushi who franked the form with a good 3rd in the Melbourne Cup. What really interests me is James McDonald takes the ride and that could just be the key to getting him to win again. I will also cover the 2nd and 3rd from the Bendigo Cup given that form looks much stronger than I originally thought! Berkeley Square has had a very good prep and was 2nd in the G3 Coongy at Caulfield prior to the 2nd at Bendigo. He's not been over this far, but he runs as if going up in trip will suit him and he likes Flemington. Star Vega was 3rd just behind Berkeley Square at both Caulfield and Bendigo and again looks like the step up in trip will suit him nicely. Serpentine @ 14/5 with Bet365 Berkeley Square @ 6/1 with Bet365 and William Hill Star Vega @ 9/1 with Bet365, Paddy Power and Betfair R6 - 4.50am This is the Champions Sprint and it sees the Everest 1st, 2nd and 5th meet each other again. Bella Nipotina looks to be in best ever form at the age of 7 as she landed the Everest and then won over 1300 last Saturday at Rosehill to take her prize money over $20m! She beat Sunshine In Paris last week and that horse was 5th at Randwick behind her. I can't see her reversing the form although I am going to take Bella Nipotina on. She has only placed 4 times in 10 starts at Flemington and that's a small worry although like I say she is running better than she ever has. I more want to take her on because I think Giga Kick can reverse the form. He was only 3rd up going into the Everest and he had been off for a year prior to his 1st up run so there should be more to come. He had to close from the back and was only beaten a head at the end. Not having an extra race might prove crucial as well. I will also save on Overpass. He has won Western Australia's version of the Everest, the Quokka, the last two years and he hadn't run since this years running in April until he took the G3 Sydney Stakes on the same day as the Everest. What is interesting is that he clocked a very slightly faster time than Bella Nipotina so he likely would have been involved in the finish in the Everest. He does have a very good 1st up record so possibly there might not be improvement, but his 2nd up record is solid enough and he has a winning chance. Giga Kick @ 4/1 with Bet365, William Hill and Betfred Overpass @ 9/2 with Bet365, Paddy Power, William Hill, Betfair and Betfred R7 - 5.30am I don't think the Champions Mile is the easiest race to weigh up. Pride Of Jenni won this race last year and as always will be the pace angle, but she raced very flat in the Cox Plate just 7 days after the King Charles III 2nd. The owner is blaming the jockey as he has been replaced by Ben Melham and her former rider is on Another Wil who isn't without a chance. If she is back to her best then she can win this, but I can't be backing a horse like her who gives her all from the front after such a flat run last time. Indeed it was suggested she would go for a spell after that, but her owner wants her to run again. I can see the case for Broadsiding who ran a huge race to finish 3rd in the Cox Plate, but as a 3yo I just wonder if that run might have taken the edge of ahead of this. The selection is going to be Mr Brightside who was one place behind Broadsiding at MV. I don't think he is at his best over 2000m and for me this is his best trip. He's been running his usual solid races this prep and things might just set up perfectly to win another G1. Mr Brightside @ 5/1 with Bet365, William Hill and Betfred R8 - 6.10am Via Sistina is back in action just 2 weeks after putting in the best performance we have seen anywhere in the world over 2000m this year. It was a devastating performance and whilst you do have the small concern that she was trained to peak for the Cox Plate and she might not back it up, it is hard to take her on because she should win. I think it is also important that she backs it up to prove it wasn't a one off. It is great to see last years Caulfield and Melbourne Cup winner Without A Fight back on a racecourse after a tendon injury meant he hasn't run since winning the latter. Docklands also runs here after a solid 5th in the Cox Plate. I am really surprised they didn't go back to 1600m with him after that because he would have had a good chance in the mile. With Via Sistina being so short this is a race more to watch than have a bet in.

Will have a go at another BB tonight in the Championship game, Boosted odds are 6.62. btts = yes. I do favour Watford here so you could include them for double chance at least but I also like the prospect of Oxford scoring so I've plumped for that Watford 20+ booking points. Could risk both teams covering that line but I'll settle for 1 and preference is for the hosts. Hopefully an early Oxford goal leads to some frustration. Bayo 1+ SoT. To score not a bad shout but I'll take a little less risk in return for a slightly shorter price Goodrham 2+ shots. Ranked 24th in the Championship for total shots, quite high for average shot distance. Hopefully fires off at least a couple of potshots! Had a single on that last component at 13/10 with Uni. Odds on everywhere else and his strike rate for doing so is slightly better than 50/50.

I've had 5pt Ew both .....and Ew doubles on both races selection

Yeah, not looked closely but getting a sense of them not often going best price in that market. I make that 94.83% of the multiplied odds which isn't great. Always feels a bit snide when the bookie takes extra margin out of a BB combo where the first thing happening doesn't make the second thing more likely. If anything, you should get better than the multiplied odds rather than worse for a same game double. Glad @Fader nudged me to look at yesterday's games as I landed 2 decent priced BBs and boosted the YTD ROI to 18.23% from 233 bets.

5 Fold AccumulatorRef: 606831481 5 Selections 126.52/1 2. Inversion - 11/4Winner - 15:28 Newcastle 4. Safanah - 11/8Winner - 16:40 Newcastle 2. Kristal Klear - 10/11Winner - 17:15 Newcastle 1. Too Much - 11/4Winner - 18:45 Newcastle 6. Volenti - 1/1Winner - 19:15 Newcastle Stake£ 0.10 Potential Returns£ 12.75 TreblesRef: 606831484 You automatically accepted a Price Change 5 Selections 2. Inversion - 11/4Winner - 15:28 Newcastle 4. Safanah - 11/8Winner - 16:40 Newcastle 2. Kristal Klear - 10/11Winner - 17:15 Newcastle 1. Too Much - 11/4Winner - 18:45 Newcastle 6. Volenti - 1/1Winner - 19:15 Newcastle Stake£ 0.50 Potential Returns£ 9.79 Four FoldsRef: 606831490 You automatically accepted a Price Change 5 Selections 2. Inversion - 11/4Winner - 15:28 Newcastle 4. Safanah - 11/8Winner - 16:40 Newcastle 2. Kristal Klear - 10/11Winner - 17:15 Newcastle 1. Too Much - 11/4Winner - 18:45 Newcastle 6. Volenti - 1/1Winner - 19:15 Newcastle Stake£ 0.25 Potential Returns£ 12.61 Keep bets in betslip? Total Stake£ 0.85 Total Potential Returns£ 35.15

Gut reaction is no. Little positive value and would be abused by the small minority of posters whose intent is at best mischievous and at worst malicious. They work for me as they are barring the fact that I sometimes struggle to differentiate between sad and confused (much like real life to be fair). Would be good if there could be a clearer visual distinction. (You can tell by hovering on a laptop but I don't think that works on a tablet or phone.) Maybe an applause one or similar to react to a good winning bet. You can use thanks when you've followed someone on a winner but a "well done" option might be more apt than thanks or like in some instances. Never used it in my life squire! Yeah, I think it gets reasonable use. It's fine in the course of a discussion where you're genuinely confused by what someone has posted and then go on to seek clarity. I probably use it for 1 in 3 of @MCLARKE's posts when we're having a deep dive into something stats based!

The Punters Lounge Fantasy Football League top spot remains in the hands of @patriciamarc this week! The previously narrow 3-point lead at the summit has now extended to a whopping 29 points. Patricia's side benefited from an 18-point haul from captain Mohamed Salah, 16 points from striker Dominic Solanke, and a trio of Nottingham Forest players in goalkeeper Matz Sels, defender Ola Aina, and striker Chris Wood who brought in 28 points to the 81-point team total. It's a thin line between madness and genius but Patricia has stayed on the right side of that line! Manager of the Week also went to Patricia Atilano this week with that total. The closest challenges came from @Trimble89's Yamal Sells Avon with 74 points, @Bedlam's Real Sosobad with 73 points and the 153rd-positioned @tilzonja's Kostolomac Team. It's going to take a big effort to see Patricia knocked off the top spot before the international break! At the other end of the table, history continued to be re-written in the Punters Lounge Fantasy Football League as bottom-placed Andy Elliot and their Andellio side took the lowest score of the week once again with a return of just 17 points. Had Jordan Pickford and Fabian Schar not had average scores this week it could've been even worse! The deadline for this week's matches is a slightly later than usual 1:30pm UK time on Saturday 9th November. Best of luck to you all. Except you, Andy Elliot! You need a blimmin' miracle!

Lucky 15 E/W Exeter 3:35 - Magic Seven 11/1 4:10 Bangers and Cash 16/1 Dundalk 7:30 Hightimeyouwon 17/2 8:00 Sneddy Eddie 17/2

Dundalk 18.30 £20 Sakti @7/4 bet365

-£149 day 248

3.00 Exeter: Asian Spice @ 4/1 (Bet365)

It's very noble of you as a forum administrator to give others a chance, Michael.

Under / Over 2.5 Goals

I've gone Cross, Rock, De Decker, Van Den Bergh and Wade in the end.

Newcastle - Arsenal (1) @3.70 Bournemouth - Man. City (1) @5.50 10 points double

Would pay exactly the same with Hills if you used the 25% boost, in case anyone fancies following but can't bet with 365.

I’ve gone with a 365 booster tonight Watford over 3 corners Oxford over 3 corners BTTS both teams 20+ booking 15/2

Be nice if they were all that easy. I was surprised at the exchange odds, as quite a few previews had Chelsea dishing out a shellacking.

I do use the confused but usually it means I have been very irritated when someone has spelt an horse wrong in the Naps comp and I've had to try and work out which horse they intended it to be

Dundalk 7.30 BLACK STORM £20 win BSP

AW selection Newcastle 3.28 WALSINGHAM

1 pt win Kissman 12/1 Bet365 Fontwell 2.35

Yeah I was gonna look at group winners today but Scutt is worth a shot for sure I reckon

Nice1 Ian as always getting screenshot even though you didnt even play! Thanks I had left the lobby open on one my other screens to post up when I was free later but you beat me to it!

Any news on @ralphie7

Liverpool please

There is an annual prize for the naps competition. I believe in the past that a bronze model of a horse was given to the winner. Not sure if this can be resurrected ?

Binoculars seem a bit of an outlier on that list cost wise. I imagine good quality ones would be quite expensive so it would be a case of weighing up affordability versus the quality being worthwhile. Similar thoughts on the phone chargers, quality and compatibility with a wide enough range of phones.

@Fader Looks like I am the lucky one today, just noticed the Chelsea BB has been settled as a winner! Apparently Noah picked up a second yellow deep into added time. I was following on SX so they must have missed it. Quite looking forward to the update now!

I’ve had a look through the Grand Slam this morning and picked out a player from each quarter, and broadly in agreement with what has already been said. Wade has a really good record in this tournament, especially in his last three visits, reaching two semi-finals and a final. He’s playing pretty well at the moment, so the 55/1 with Star Sports seems more than fair. In the second quarter I do like the chances of Rob Cross, but I’ve opted for Connor Scutt. Scutt doesn’t have much big stage experience to draw on, but if things click for him in Wolverhampton the 150/1 odds could look massive, that’s with Skybet. In the third quarter I’ve plumped for De Decker. He’s arguably playing the best darts of anyone in this section, so I’ve taken 33/1 with Coral. The bottom quarter is a real minefield, but I’ve gone for Josh Rock at 40/1 with SpreadEx. You could probably make a case for seven of the eight to get through from this section, but Rock has averaged in excess of 100 in both his knockout defeats over the last two years, so is due a bit of luck in this tournament.

Tottenham vs Aston Villa (Over 2.5) at 1.44 Barcelona (1) at 1.10 £85 pts please

Liverpool (1.40) Man United (X) 3.80 Fulham (1) 2.05 £7 treble

Stoke - 2.25 Liverpool- 1.40 Forrest - 2.15 3 x 40