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120 started, only 102 made it to the final week, 243 winning bets achieved with 89 of us having at least one winner. 36 players completed 10 weeks in profit. As usual in final week we had some massive bets which resulted in a few M A S S I V E wins, lots of losses and only 17 winners overall. The top 4 Divisions came good in the end and made an overall profit with Division 8 joining in too, and creditable efforts by the other 3 means we jointly ended up for the season. Top of the overall after an emormous final week gamble is @Marek76 followed by @1945harry, both jumping up the table with 4 figure final banks . @Procalc and @Budgie 65 keep their places amongst the top 5 having been there for several weeks and @dj.orange leaps up the table in between them with a final week big win. Well done to our top 5 overall, but creditable mention also to @silver fox and @Cuko who finished behind on £500+ banks. @Procalc managed an amazing 8 winning weeks with @Gray306 on 7 and @buga00 on 6. Here's the overall table, Divisions to follow shortly.

@PercyP @nawoo @Alastair @Data @Heisenberg68 @runadrum @Gary66 @Joelavfc @skyblues88 @imavillan please either like this post or reply if you would like to join back in

Thank you for all the input, it's been really helpful. I think we all deserve a week's rest so we will restart on weekend of 17/18/19/20 March. We'll have to take a 1 week break the week after due to the unfortunate timing of the International Break, but it looks like we can then run through to end of May and have another 10 week competition. We will lose the Scottish Prem league half way in, but I can put the Championship in for a couple of weeks after that. We'll have 7 weeks of EFL and then presumably a few weekend play off matches at least. I'll add in Portuguese Primeira Liga from May.

Patent. Exeter. 3.00. Sabrina 15/8 unpl 4.10. Armchair Farmer 11/4 1st 3.35. Shallow River 10/3 unpl stk.3.50. rtn 48.50. Good luck all.

Top 3 in each Division, please can you Message me on here with your PayPal email address and I will collate and pass on to management who will arrange the payments. Also Overall Top 5 please send me your address so we can post out the PL merchandise (mug and pens) if you'd like it. To Message, either hover over my name and click the Message envelope which comes up bottom left, or click the envelope at the top of the forum page. If you're a previous winner feel free to tag it onto our last messages and just confirm if details are still the same. Give us a couple of weeks to get payments organised. Merchandise is shipped from our suppliers so may take longer - if you aren't in the UK we'll do our best to get them to you, but there are shipping restrictions from our supplier and unfortunately in some cases it might not be possible. Well done everyone. WINNERS DIV 1 @stuboy43 £75. @Xcout £50. @AdriaN92 £30. DIV 2 @Procalc £60. @Cuko £40. @APitt1988 £25. DIV 3 @dj.orange £50. @Bagzi £35. @Redno2009 £20. DIV 4 @Marek76 £40. @1945harry £30. @silver fox £20. DIV 5 @przemek £35. @Nosey-P £25. @Astleavista £15. DIV 6 @Wanderlust £30. @Tiffy £20. @BARNSLEYCHOP £10. DIV 7 @daisychain £20. @Like A Roughie £15. @Gizmo £10. DIV 8 @Budgie 65 £20. @Larkin22 £15. @Gray306 £10. TOP 5 OVERALL @Marek76 @1945harry @Budgie 65 @dj.orange @Procalc PL Mug & Pens.

Patent. 3.20. Wolv. What's the Story 4/1 unpl 3.00 Exet. American Sniper 4/1 unpl 8.00. Kemp. Teumessias Fox 9/2 1st stk 3.50. rtn 116.50. Good luck all.

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The ITV cameras bring us seven races today with four coming from the feature meeting at Sandown who have to pass a 8 AM inspection with a chilly night forecast and with the ground very much on the soft side and three from Wolverhampton where it’s Lincoln trial day. Here’s my thoughts on the seven. Wolverhampton 1.30 The days action kicks off with a ten runner 6F class handicap. Silkie Wilkie arrives in decent form having made all to win at Kempton last time and although 6lb higher will surely have his followers. Anything Billy ‘The Kid’ Loughnane rides has to be given respect and he’s on board Baldomero for Mick Appleby and The Horse Watchers and also has claims. The one I like however is bottom weight Ingra Tor trained by rookie handler Jack Channon who took over the reigns from his father Mick earlier this year and has already had 3 winners from 20 runners. He’s been gelded since last seen some 197 days ago but was a useful turf sprinter last summer who has already won on the all weather. If he’s ready to go he looks worthy of a bet. INGRA TOR 2 points win @ 6/1 Bet Victor Sandown 1.50 A decent sized field of seventeen turn up for the EBF Betfair NH Novices’ Handicap Hurdle. The race as one would expect has a very open look about it with several holding chances. On my short list is Gary Moore’s Inneston who was last seen winning over course and distance 23 days ago from Twin Powers, one of three Paul Nicholls runners in the race. Dan Skelton’s Etalon is another possible having won well at Wetherby last time and sporting a first time tongue tie here. I’m going to take a chance however on Milton Harris’ Twinjets who is better off at the weights for being beaten by Twin Powers over course and distance in February and has already won twice in soft ground so will certainly enjoy the wet terrain. There’s additional places available here so make sure you search them out. TWINJETS 1 point each way @ 10/1 Bet365 1/5th 12345 Wolverhampton 2.05 The Spreadex Sports Lincoln Trial Handicap is up next. Run over 1M 142 yards it is, as the name suggests, a trial for the big one at Doncaster next month. A field of thirteen have declared with the favourite the one I like best. Trained at Newmarket by John & Thady Gosden Unforgotten runs in the royal blue Godolphin silks and will be ridden today by one of their jockeys in James Doyle. He returned from a 659 day absence to win two handicaps at Lingfield over a mile a tad cosily, coming late and fast to mow down his opponents. The handicapper has had his say by pushing him up 8lb but that may not be enough to stop this lightly raced Exceed And Excel roan from winning again. Last year’s winner Notre Belle Bete is back to defend his title but is now 8lb higher whilst a bigger threat may well be the Mick Appleby trained War In Heaven who’s chasing a course and distance five timer. UNFORGOTTEN 2 points win @ 4/1 bet365 Sandown 2.25 A bumper field of 18 face the starter for the feature race of the day - the Betfair Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle run over the minimum trip of two miles. Like the EBF Final the contest has a wide open look about it. Gary Moore’s Givega is a decent novice who bounced back to form when winning a novice hurdle over course and distance last time and in his first handicap is high on my short list. Ireland send two over having plundered the race last year with last year’s winning trainer Peter Fahey saddling Zoffany Bay who was a massive drifter last time at Ascot when running really well to finish runner up to the improver Irish Hill. Dan Skelton’s Playful Saint should also be considered having bolted up last time at Leicester whilst cases can be made for top weight Metier who will love the heavy ground and even Venetia William’s charge Djelo. Stakes kept small but it’s Givega for me each way with additional places. GIVEGA 1 point each way @ 8/1 Betfair Sportsbook 1/5th 12345 Wolverhampton 2.40 Eight go to post for the Spreadex Sports Lady Wulfruna Stakes, a listed contest run over 7F. A strong fancy here is the Ralph Beckett trained Angel Bleu, a smart soft ground turf performer who’s making his all weather debut for a trainer who won with 3 of his last 4 runners. Angel Bleu has kept the best company on turf running in group one company on 4 of his last 5 starts winning two of them. With no penalties for those victories he may simply outclass his seven opponents headed by last years winner Tinker Toy, who’s very in and out and Andrew Balding’s Berkshire Shadow who’s been gelded since last seen 212 days ago. From a yard in red hot form Angel Bleu will be very hard to beat if anywhere near fit enough. ANGEL BLEU 3 points win @ 3/1 William Hill Sandown 3.00 Only nine turn up for this listed mares only bumper. At the head of the market we have the easy Hereford winner Casa No Mento trained in the Cotswolds by Nigel Twiston Davies whilst there shouldn’t be much between Harry Fry’s Goodtimecrew and Paul Nicholls’ Larchmont Lass who wears a first time hood here. That may be enough to turn the tables and in a tricky contest is worth a small interest. LARCHMONT LASS 1 point win @ 11/2 bet365 Sandown 3.35 A small field of six face the starter for this 2m 4F 10 yard class 1 handicap chase and features the best bet of the day in the favourite Easy As That trained by Venetia Williams. Soft ground is a must for the improving eight year old who’s won two of his three starts over fences in splendid style rising 16lb for wins at Haydock and Newcastle. Olly Murphy saddles his dual winner this season in No Risk Des Flos and he may be the biggest threat although Brian Ellison’s Baron De Middleton shouldn’t be overlooked as he appeared to improve last time for a wind op. He may not appreciate the soft conditions however. EASY AS THAT 3 points win @ 6/4 BetVictor

Kempton 600 mellys flyer 700 khangai 800 teumessias fox 830 dreams delivered

1st. Returns £101. Mar. + £551

We had 2 enormous wins to complete the season with @Marek76 landing a 7/1 half bank treble for a 4 figure win and @1945harry not far behind with a 12/1 smaller half bank treble. But bet of the week goes to @dj.orange with a 30/1 treble . Well done to the 17 who found a winner to complete the season. Division 1, @stuboy43 ended with a nice 11/1 treble to jump straight up to the top of the table. Division 2, top 3 hold on to their places with @Procalc keeping the top spot. Division 3, @dj.orange's super bet leap frogs him into the top spot. Division 4, what can I say! @Marek76 keeps the top spot with his 4 figure return but @1945harry and @silver fox both leap up with massive treble wins to push the others off the podium. Division 5 had a little shuffle round with @przemek taking the top spot. Division 6, no winners and no big position changing bets so top 3 stay the same with @Wanderlust clear at the top. Division 7, @daisychain has a win to leap frog over the top 3 into top spot. Division 8, @Budgie 65 keeps the top spot with @Larkin22 moving up onto the podium. Well done to the top 3 on the podium of each Division. I'll list and tag you separately regarding prizes

having a barney 2.00

dogem by design 2.50

200 ayr miss scarlett 10/1 nap 235 ayr ultra violet 10/1 335 exe paros 25/1 410 exe armchair farmer 10/3 £1 ew acca 10.978.13 if all win

Especially since the results are all at SP

Wolverhampton. Single. 3.20. Quick Change 10/1 NR stk. 5.00 rtn 55.00 Backed it yesterday at Newcastle, hope it was only a pipe opener after 7 months off . Good luck all. Also did a 2.00. ew rtn. 28.00.

Very Friday Night Dinner Shit on it!

Not so sleepy first 6 places ?

I never listen to what any trainer says really ....... let's face it they only know about their horse They don't know about the dozen other horses in the race Now if a trainer was to go through a race card and give insightful opinions about every runner I might pay more attention than if he just says 'my horse is a nice horse and must have an ew chance' or other such clichés

Division 3 here i go

won .... and drifted out to 7/1 ....... nice one ! +140.00 this month (-40.00) this year (+177.50)

It was the ground that won it ? 9/2 on Sunday after the in depth Countryfile forecast of a dry week , you could hear gasps when Cue Card came down but rails eye view in Best Mate when The Don romped home , £45 I won & an 8/1 Skelton winner earlier in the day ?

Patent. 2.25.Exet.Dark Duomo 5/1 4.40. Exet. Clay 10/3 4.25.Wolv. City Escape 7/2 stk 3.50. rtn 102.16. Good luck all.

Thanks @Zilzalian - I'm actually going through my toughest patch at present with 7 losers on the spin including 3 seconds and an unseat when in the lead 3 out. Hopefully get back in the groove this weekend

My selections for tomorrow. If Ayr is abandoned I’ll post replacements the morra - no bet from me till then. Prices from sky bet extra places available for ew 1330 Ayr Jessie Mac 9/1 1435 Ayr Jimmie Rabbitte 12/1 1520 Wolves Harbour Vision 16/1 2000 Kempton Sword Beach 20/1

ARTICLE 3 As promised, in this article I will perform a detailed analysis of the performance of favourites at the Cheltenham festival. Whilst it is great to bask in the glory of picking a 50/1 winner the reality is that these are few and far between and the losing runs can be long and disheartening. At odds of 50/1 if you make 1,000 bets you are likely to encounter a losing run of 349. You will probably have lost the love for betting long before this losing run comes to an end. There is nothing to beat the joy of seeing your horse cross the finishing line as the winner and you will get more of these winners if you back the favourite. As already stated, favourites perform well at the Cheltenham festival. Here are some statistics that will help you identify which favourites to bet on. Type of race. Hurdles and NH Flat races produce the best profits with 38 wins from 135 runs and a level stakes profit of 41 points at Betfair Starting Price. Stick to the highest-grade races. Class 1 races have provided 72 winners from 234 runs and a profit of 66 points. With class 2 races there is a loss of 26 points. Long distance races are best avoided. Races of 3 miles or less have recorded 66 winners from 214 runners and a profit of 54 points. Younger horses have performed better than their older rivals. Horses aged 8 or less have a record of 69 wins from 230 runners and a profit of 66 points. Recent winning form is useful. Horses that won their last race have produced 60 winners from 175 runners with a profit of 47 points. Course winners have a poor record, recording a loss of 10 points. Horses that were favourite last time out have a very good record with 59 runs from 158 runners and a profit of 51 points. In particular, horses that started at very short odds (less than 4/5) last time have an exceptional record with 40 wins from 81 runs and a profit of 38 points. Cheltenham is not the time to change jockeys. Those horses ridden by a different jockey have lost 12 points with just 11 wins from 79 runners. Horses that won their last race by 3 lengths or more have a good record with 47 winners from 111 runners and a profit of 62 points. Horses that last ran in a handicap show a loss of 4 points. Ignore horses that didn’t have a good run last time. My definition of a good run is that the horse finished in the top third of the field last time. Those that didn’t recorded a loss of 15 points with just 6 winners from 45 runs. Be wary of those horses that haven’t won many of their races. Those horses with less than 3 winners from their last 10 starts show a loss of 20 points with 11 winners from 86 starts. On a similar theme ignore those horses that haven’t won recently. Those horses that haven’t had a win in the last 72 days have produced a loss of 35 points with 13 wins from 103 runs. Hopefully these 14 statistics will guide you to finding winning favourites at the Cheltenham festival. In article 4 I will look at the records of trainers at Cheltenham and see if we can find any profitable angles.

Been keeping my eye on @The Brigadier in the SL naps table to see how he is getting on and i know from the naps table on here how difficult it is to pick the one horse out of a few options to submit. Good luck going forward fella, great performance up to now.

Well it is almost here and i thought i would start a thread so members can post general thoughts and or observations. Last year i watched quite a few stable tours mostly the usual suspects Mullins Henderson Nichols etc and was sat there my usual sarcastic self saying Bullshit, you got to be joking, your havin a larf etc when i happened across a stable tour from the beginning of the season given by Mullins My pencil began to quiver like a water diviner and notebook began screaming at me as i listened having previously listened to the pre festival podcast, It wasn't what Mullins was saying that caught my attention but what he hadn't said in the pre Cheltenham preview. In the pre season interview he mentioned a horse that had recently come into the yard from France. I clicked back to the Pre Cheltenham preview and not a mention of it so i noted it down and lo and behold the said GG was entered in the Martin Pipe handicap the favourite being you guessed it a Mullins horse Gentleman De Mee. Hey up! says i to mesen this isn't that odd is it a trainer keeping stum so i jumped on the said beast at 10/1. The horse duly obliged winning at 8/1 and Gentle De Mee 4/1f fading away and beaten 21L. That horse in that handicap was Galopin Des Champs. The moral of the story is don't believe the Bullshit and listen to what they don't say rather than soaking up what they want you to think.

Good luck !

As in previous years we will be running a tipsters competition for Cheltenham, Tuesday 14th to Friday 17th March. Rules: 1 selection per race throughout the competition Bets settled to £1 level stakes - WIN Only Bets settled at SP Highest accumulative total over the competition wins £100 cash (via PayPal) Runner Up wins £40 and the third place wins £20, all prizes via your PayPal account There will be a £10 prize each day for the highest profit for that day No edits allowed in selection posts Losses incurred for losers. Replacement selections for NRs can be posted but must be before the first race deadline All Bets must be posted prior to the first race each day (no exceptions) Not compulsory to enter every day or every race (so if you miss the first day or two you can still take part) Leader-board posted each evening A minimum of 14 bets is required to qualify for the total prizes Only bets on that day's thread will be included, bets posted elsewhere will not be included All welcome, good luck A separate thread will be created the evening before each day for selections to be posted in. You can find these threads in our dedicated Cheltenham Festival 2023 forum. Apologies for the confusion about moving it from the At The Races forum to the Cheltenham Festival 2023 forum!

I hope thay retire him after this my hart can’t take watching him in case of a fall my most favourite horse othe than desert orchid ?

ARTICLE 4 In this article I will look at trainer records at the Cheltenham festival. Over the last 9 years over 374 trainers have attempted to find the holy grail of a Cheltenham festival winner and only 69 of them have experienced the pleasure of being in the winning enclosure. The problem with this type of analysis is the small sample size so, in an attempt, to overcome this I will limit my analysis to those 5 trainers who have averaged at least 1 win per year. Trainer WIN RUN PROFIT AE W P Mullins 59 492 -74 1.06 G Elliott 31 248 69 1.27 N J Henderson 22 284 -113 0.96 H De Bromhead 15 139 0 1.36 P F Nicholls 13 214 -40 0.94 This is the 1st time I have included the AE ratio in these articles. This is a crucial ratio that I use in all of my analyses and is much more useful than the ROI (return on investment) ratio used in many publications as, whilst it is easy to calculate, it can be distorted by the occasional big priced winner. The A stands for Actual and is simply the number of winners the trainer has achieved. The E stands for Expected and calculates the expected number of winners based on BSP (which is a very accurate indicator of the horse’s chance of winning). An AE above 1 indicates that the trainer’s horses have performed better than the market expected. Therefore, Nicky Henderson and Paul Nicholls do not make the cut. Gordon Elliot had a very poor year last year with just 2 winners from 60 runners and whilst he may well return to form, I am minded to leave him out this time. That leaves Willie Mullins and Henry De Bromhead. I will have a more detailed look at Willie Mullins and see which areas he is particularly strong in. Type of race. It is best to follow his runners in Hurdle and NH Flat races, where his record is 37 wins from 345 runs with an AE of 1.11. He has a poor record in races at the minimum distance of 2 miles with 12 wins from 98 runs, showing a loss of 28 points and an AE of 0.83. Despite his stellar reputation his more fancied runners are not over-bet. Backing his horses when they are forecast at 11/4 or shorter would produce 28 wins from 53 runs with a profit of 13 points and an AE of 1.24. He does particularly well with fillies and mares. They have recorded 14 winners from 97 runners with a profit of 30 points and an AE of 1.14. Horses that have won their last race perform very well with 44 wins from 218 runs with a profit of 14 points and an AE of 1.16. Ignore his horses that were beaten favourite last time out. Of 62 runners only 2 have won with a loss of 44 points and an AE of 0.43. Horses with lots of winning from perform well. Those that have at least 5 wins from their last 10 runs have recorded 23 wins from 78 runs with a profit of 24 points and an AE of 1.22. Last year was his best yet with 10 winners including 5 of the 7 races on the last day. Let’s hope the momentum continues! The next article will look at the performance of jockeys at the festival.

Being a Hughie follower i have made good money out of sleepy, its getting a bit long in the tooth now but i wont be able resist a shilling or two.

5/5 Bank @ £20.04 - job done! Attempts 28 Double ups won 11 Thread bank -£60.00

6-00 kemp the green man 11/2 365 win only

Apart from the cold, the conditions should be good for attacking rugby at Leigh this evening for the visit of Saints. The home side must be very buoyed by their surprising win at Hull KR last week, although they host a Saints side who will be highly motivated after their even more surprising 1pt defeat against Leeds. It should be a stress-free Leigh as few will expect a win, so they should have no compunction in throwing the ball out wide at every opportunity. Their wingers, Josh Charnley and Tom Briscoe scored 2 tries apiece against Hull KR. On the fixed odds these players are 9/4 to score, but I have been attracted by Sporting Index' hotshots buy price of 33. As well as Charnley and Briscoe the quartet includes Zak Hardaker and Ricky Leutele. Spreadex' buy price is 35 for the same 4 players. Buy Leigh Leopards hotshots at 33 (Sporting Index)

You are welcome. I believe the forecast information that I receive from my data supplier is from the Racing Post. Hopefully the Cheltenham stats will provide us with some profits but as investment companies always say "past performance is no guarantee of future results" !

2.10 Wolv - Restrict - win at 9/2 bet365

Another one of these tomorrow. Here's my picks : 2pts Chisnall 25/1 paddypower (4 places, 1/4th) ------------------------------------------------ 1pt e/w Schindler 80/1 paddypower (4 places, 1/4th) 1pt e/w Clemens 80/1 paddypower (4 places. 1/4th) 1pt e/w J.Williams 100/1 paddypower (4 places, 1/4th) 1pt e/w Gawlas 150/1 paddpower (4 places, 1/4th) ------------------------------------------------------------ 0.5pts e/w Van Veen 200/1 paddypower (4 places, 1/4th) 0.5pts e/w Veenstra 200/1 paddypower (4 places, 1/4th)

yes i did but small stakes only so it's not gonna change my destiny, especially since I lost the winnings on football later on in the evening lol ? Yesterday Vafaie definately had problems facing pressure, he was playing good but twice he missed a rather easy ball to win two frames (but then so did Trump otherwise Trump would have won) so I don't have the balls to take him today, may be Un-Nooh being at home is on a mission to win this?

I've added you both to the new list of players

For tomorrow I will combine these 3 matches. Tiafoe at 1.45, Dimitrov at 1.33 and Nishioka at 1.50 - making around 3. Also I think that Daniel will take a set from Berretini at 1.9 why not to even beat him at 3.30.

Don Cossack humff i needed Cue card the last leg of a £10 acca other 3 won, sprinter sacre was one, cant remember the other two maybe balyandy was one but cue card tipped up when tanking if you remember, it then went on to destroy Don Cossack by 26L at Aintree which hurt even more. that cost me 21 Grand. ?

2002 I was waiting for the result of the bumper i had backed Pizarro 16/1 (ridden by Jamie Spencer believe it or not) against Rhinestone Cowboy the red hot and many peoples banker of the meeting 5/2 fav. It was absolutely freezing made worse by the long wait. A bookie was offering 6/4 Pizarro keeping the race (stewards enquiry). I and my mate who took some convincing had 200 quid on that 6/4, (my biggest ever bet at that time) I only had 20 quid on Pizarro to win at 16/1. I just had to look up the horses and result as i wrote this but the memory of that cold chill and my mates red raw face has never left me. ?

I just ignore Classified races.

On Don Cossack's Gold Cup win I couldn't feel my feet in Best Mate enclosure after race 1 yet despite the bitterness ( about 4 degrees ) some plank still managed to do a streak ? Only time I wear a suit is for job interview or a funeral , you should be able to wear what you want & what you feel comfortable in as long as it's not like a Prince Harry stag do costume .

I think if a race horse runs 6 times over a 18 month period & can't reach a mark of 50 then they should retire it & re name it , a horse .

I think they're a useful addition to the calendar for very low grade horses If you look at today's favourite ...... Destinado. He won a Classified Stakes last time but prior to that had run in 7 handicaps off marks in the 40s and couldn't win one. There must be a lot of horses rated in the 40s who are never going to win handicaps against 50s and 60s horses even getting weight from them. These classified stakes give them an oportunity to run against horses of around the same level Of course there will be horses like the 66/1 shots here that are never going to win any kind of race ....... but it's cheap to enter your horse in a c;lassified stakes (£40) and maybe the owner doesn't want to spend much but wants a day at the races with an owner's badge and to see his horse take part. And there's always the hope that conditions of trip, track, surface might be ideal for your horse on the day and if he could just improve by 4 or 5 lbs, a length or two over a mile, he might .......... you know, win ! The whole sport is based on Hope !