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Trotter

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  1. I've got that book as well ......... I think it was Mordin that first got me interested in speed figures. I think he used to do a column in The Weekender ? ........ late 80s, early 90s maybe
  2. personally I don't ........ I can see the argument for doing it to get more precise figures but I reckon you can take that into account when assessing a race...... if you have a couple of horses that look around the same level and one is carrying a stone less than the other today then it's got an advantage. But in practise I don't even take account of the weight carried in the race I'm looking at to make a selection. I tend to stick to handicaps and let the handicapper do his job and conveniently group together horses that are in the same ballpark to run in handicap races With all the chaos involved in a horse race and all the factors which affect the final time....... class, field size, going, wind, pace of race etc ....... I reckon a few pounds here or there are probably not too relevant Obviously I can see why people would be attracted to trying to get figures to the nearest pound but I never have taken weight into account.
  3. I feel a bit obliged to do some more speed ratings now ! ....... 😜 I think I'll do the Doncaster meeting at the weekend in case I decide to compile ratings for all the main meetings which I have to say is a bit unlikely as the season gets underway ........ too much racing ! ....... and maybe any Irish flat meetings this week just in case I decide to concentrate on the much more manageable Irish flat season with it's much lower number of meetings Over the winter, say October to March,. the AW is ideal ......... but not much point starting that now
  4. Nice one ! ...... 👍 Any chance you could move our recent posts over just to get it started ?
  5. Just the Racing Post and I use their standard times I think the 'art' in the process comes from working out allowances ...... as for race times the Post has a huge database so their times should be as good as any and as long as you use the same set of times all the time it doesn't really matter ....... it's not absolute figures that matter it's relative figures between horses !
  6. that's true ! ...... I usually do AW when I bother with them In fact I did do AW speed ratings for a good 3 or 4 years a few years ago and found it a good basis for assessing races. It's OK over the winter but during the summer horses flit between AW and Turf so you never have the full picture of how they're running from race to race. The main problem is that there is far too much racing ...... it would be a full time job to rate all races. It might be practical to do it for Irish racing where they have a lot fewer meetings If you do fancy a crack at compiling your own ratings it might be an idea to have a separate thread where all the speed ratings posts can be grouped together ..... it's a topic that crops up every now and then but the posts get lost in the daily threads
  7. I don't think there's any way I'm going to keep this up but thought I'd do some speed figures for todays Curragh meeting. I'd like to do ratings for every meeting that includes a Group race but I don't imagine I will .... It'll soon become a chore that I give up on Here's the ratings of todays winners - highest to lowest Procrastinate 102, Real Force 101, Brilliant 98, Money Dancer 93, Arizona Blaze (2) 90, Chazzesmee 90, Merisi Diamond 88, Global Energy 83 This was run on Heavy ground and my going allowance was 88 ...... so the bulk of all the above figures is going allowance eg Procrastinate ran a figure of 14 then got his 88 going allowance added on note that my ratings are in lengths per mile ...... so Procrastinate would be 18 lengths per mile quicker than Global Energy ....... in a mile race I'd expect him to beat him by 18 lengths
  8. Quite an impressive winner of the first 2yo race of the season Arizona Blaze- won by 1.25L with another 5L back to the 3rd. The same trainer won the race last year with Bucanero Fuerte who went on to win group two and group one races later in the season One to note !
  9. I've had a pin-stick and come up with a couple of EW shots .... Joe Masseria 25/1 (Laddies) Smooth Tom (14/1 (wm hill)
  10. Sou 4.30 - Pozo Emery - win at 7/1 wm hill
  11. +322.61 2.45 Font - Dr Kananga 2/1 3.48 Font - Mumbles 15/8 4.00 Sou - Our pink Lady 13/8 4.18 Font - Mister Murchan 2/1 5.00 Sou - Innisfree Lass 13/8 prices sky bet 10 x £2 trebles
  12. As usual the Irish kick off the turf Flat season in our islands at Curragh today. The UK joins in at the weekend with Doncaster (Brocklesby, Lincoln, Cammidge, Doncaster Mile) today's features are the 1.35 - the first two year old race of the season which despite being so early has a decent record of throwing up some decent horses who will feature in group races as the season progresses the 3.40 - Park Express Stakes (G3) . the first group race of the season. The obvious one here is the favourite Goldana from Joseph O'Brien' yard. Currently around 9/4. She's won on Heavy, she won first time out last year, she's won in Group 3 company and the yard is in great form on the AW and over Jumps in the last couple of weeks. the 4.10 - The Irish Lincolnshire. Twenty runner handicap ....... my idea of hell ! You can stick your own pins in this one !
  13. you jinxed me there mate ...... all my 5 selections lost today ! 👀
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