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510 hunt Seasons in the sun 20/1 betvictor

315 kelso blakeney point 28/1 bet365

410 newbury Santon 20/1 bet365

7:20 Chelms Pactolus ew 50/1 bet365

Remember Howard Johnson? Similar thing he treated his horses as tools not animals.

Yes the collateral damage ie his staff are going to suffer, and i do agree with @Villa Chris he should not be forced out of the game. its such a shame for all concerned, the hardest part of this to swallow is that it never needed to happen the "mistake" he made was stupid beyond belief but it did highlight his flaws and they wont change, they can only be concealed.

I love this debate on distance/length/weight debate (rhymes at least) so hope you don't mind my two penneth worth. "Confounding variables" far too many of them in this debate, think of all your picks and then think of the successfulness of your picks, usually you find a common denominator. but it is more important to try to find out why your pick got beat because you probably made a mistake and like they say if you keep doing the same thing over and over you get the same result. I do speed figures for 2 yo. if a horse got beat 1 length it gets minus 6 points, and -1 point per 1/4 length ther

4:25 ling spirituoso 9/1 bet365

I keep wanting to say isn't all this a bit over the top? Then i sit and think, wait a minute every Saturday i hear all the pundits owners, stable staff, trainers, telling the viewers how much care and love the horses get etc etc the amount of effort that has been put in to counter the loony "ban this cruel sport brigade" and then i think, sorry pal you (Elliott) have pretty much f****d us and the sport you deserve everything you get no matter what punishment they give you.

7:00 Newcastle Theotherside 12/1 bet365

lanty slea a nr so major jumbo 12/1 bet365

120 ayr lanty slea 10/1 bet365

Personally even though i wont be backing goshen for those that back shortish prices i think to dismiss goshen is a very grave error, if it was trained by Mullins or Henderson it would be odds on.

440 font stream lady 100/1 bet365

Was pondering Altior last night as i looked thru the races and yes he is a good price, now here's the thing, what logic applies to altior also applies to bouver d'air so a small stakes double would be a good play one of those things that after the event you say to yourself ffs i should have had a couple of quid on that double. 6/1 25/1 ==182/1