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Today's ratings. 2.45 Uttoxeter. Holly Joe smoke.152.11/4. Malita149.8/1. 3.55 Uttoxeter. Willaston. 154. 22/1 Ballybeg. 154. 6/1. 4.05 Haydock. Woven.97.9/1 Hour by hour.95. 8/1. 4.40 Haydock.spirit catcher.96. 9/1 Pearle eye.94. 7/1. All 2 pts win except for Willaston 1pt e.way.all 1/2 pt r.f.c.8 points
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Racing chat-saturday 19th October
fd1972uk and 6 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
435 ascot Balmoral full and class Toimy son 451 623 total 1074 16/1 Lattam. 441 619 total 1060 14/1 Bopedro 615 422 total 1037 14/1 Carrytheone 426 619 total 1045 12/1 Toimy son and lattam look the value bets so I'll have 5pt ew both ....forecasts all 47 points -
Racing chat-saturday 19th October
Tasdik Mahmud and 4 others reacted to Robski for a topic
Ratings 4 Balmoral handicap. Bopedro.114. 11/1 Carrytheone.114. 12/1. Star of orion. 114. 33/1. Can't split these 3 all rated the same, so all 3 2pts win and half point combi tricasts and combi f.casts.5 points -
It is that time of year when we have the big Spring races in Australia and as always I will put my thoughts on the big 4 contests, the Caulfield Cup, The Everest, the Cox Plate and the Melbourne Cup. I nailed the first 3 last year, but annoyingly missed out on the Melbourne Cup winner. If anything else catches my eye then I will add any other tips as well. The Caulfield Cup and The Everest both take place on Saturday and here is my runner-by-runner guide for the big handicap at Caulfield. Just a reminder that in the Australian market it is only 3 places so if having an e/w bet on Bet365 you will only get 3 places. The Caulfield Cup is due off at 7.15am and you can watch it on bookies websites or Racing.com which you can sign up to for free. Kalapour - Caused a shock when landing the G1 Tancred Stakes at Rosehill on Easter Saturday and was then 3rd in the Sydney Cup. Not sure he has been going well enough this prep though to get involved off top weight. Buckaroo - A horse well known to Irish and UK punters. Only had the 1 start over 2400m which was a 5th behind Kalapour in the Tancred, but he has really found his form this prep. He won the G2 Chelmsford over 1600m and followed that up here under Joao Moreira in the Underwood over 1800m. That proves he handles this track and he followed that up with a superb run in the Turnbull at Flemington over 2000m where he just lost out to leading Cox Plate and possibly the best middle distance horse in Australia, Via Sistina. I think he will stay the trip and he did run the best last 600m in the Tancred. Is the favourite but easy to see why. Circle Of Fire - Had a superb Autumn in Sydney when winning the G2 Chairmans and the Sydney Cup in back to back weeks. This prep has been all about getting him ready for the Melbourne Cup and I will be looking for him to run a solid race here with Flemington in mind. Warp Speed - Japanese raider who looks like this is being used as a prep for the Melbourne Cup. Has a terrible draw as well. Huetor - Was 2nd to Buckaroo in the Underwood at huge odds and was still last at the 400m that day. If he can run to that form he would have an e/w squeak, but he was well beaten in the Turnbull last time and doesn't run well often enough for me. Warmonger - The Queensland Derby wouldn't be the strongest G1 held, but he was a hugely impressive 10.5L winner at Eagle Farm on the same day as The Derby was run at Epsom. The 4th to Mr Brightside in the Makybe Diva over 1600m at Flemington on his 1st run of the prep last month was a really pleasing effort although he didn't back that up in the Turnbull. I personally would be prepared to forgive that effort though and back up to 2400m I would expect a much better run. He is drawn in 16 which isn't great, but he is a possible winner. Eliyass - Gai Waterhouse has been speaking up the ex-French 6yo chances this week and it is easy to see why as he won his first 3 races in Oz all over 2000m. He was then 3rd in the Turnbull last time which again was a good effort. I think he will stay, but the big problem for me is he is drawn in 21 which is a shocking effort. He has settled 4th, 2nd and 2nd in his last 3 runs and if he is going to sit that far forward he is surely going to use a bit of petrol getting across. Is another possible winner, but will need a superb ride to win from that draw. Land Legend - Was useful for James Ferguson over here and landed the St Leger at Randwick a year ago. He landed the G1 Metropolitan at the same venue over 2400m 2 weeks ago when he beat Zardozi by a nose. The problem is he was getting 3lbs that day whereas he now has to give her 5lbs and he was arguably lucky to keep the race in the stewards room. A place chance but no more for me. Young Werther - Beat Duke De Sessa over 2000m here at the end of August when they ran with the same weight and then was one place behind him in 5th in the Turnbull again off levels. Has to give him 1lb here so again probably won't be much between them, but I get the sense Duke De Sessa will come out on top again. Duke De Sessa - Was 9th in this last year when he had to settle near the back from a poor draw, but has run consistently well since in some good races despite not actually managing to win one. He has made the running the last 3 times and given he has a better draw this year in 6 he should be able to roll forward again. He was 4th in the Underwood in between the two runs with Young Werther and that was a decent effort. He won over this far when trained by Dermot Weld in Ireland and he could well go close to making all. Knight's Choice - Well beaten in the Underwood and last in the Turnbull so an unlikely winner. Muramasa - Couple of good placed efforts over shorter this prep, but at a lower level than this and would be surprise if he was good enough. Zardozi - As mentioned above was arguably unlucky not to be given the Metropolitan in the stewards room. That was the 4th run of the prep and she looks to be peaking now she is up to 2400m. Won the Kennedy Oaks over that trip last year and was 2nd in the ATC Oaks back in April. What could also be key is if the rain hits big time then she is 4/6 on soft and 1/1 on heavy. Looks a player for Andrea Atzeni. Coco Sun - Beat Warmonger in the South Australian Derby, but she hasn't really kicked on from that albeit at a shorter distance. Could do better up to 2400m, but stall 20 isn't going to help at all. Deny Knowledge - Trained by John Quinn over here and was last seen finishing 6th at York 3 years ago off a mark of 72. She has now won at Listed, G3, G2 and then last time at G1 level when winning the Caulfield Stakes over 2000m last Saturday. She beat Mr Brightside there and set a fast pace from the front and was able to hold on by 0.75L. She isn't going to be able to repeat those tactics from stall 17 in a race like this and also going to be tough to repeat that just 7 days later. Valiant King - Was a solid 6th in this last year when trained by Joseph O'Brien, but has not run well in either start this prep for new trainer Chris Waller. You couldn't rule out a bold showing on last year's run or his 2nd to Vauban in the Ballyroan last August, but stall 18 isn't helpful when added to her two runs this prep. Positivity - Was 2nd in the New Zealand Oaks and landed the South Australian Classic in May. Was 2nd here first up over 1700 and then won over 2000m in a G3 here. Went up to 2520m at Flemington in the Bart Cummings a couple of weeks ago and wasn't able to feature from a poor draw. Better draw here and could run OK at a price. Sayedaty Sadaty - Was purchased by current owners after finishing a very good 5th in the Derby. He kept going and clearly stayed the 1m4f well. That was for Andrew Balding and he then moved to David Simcock for his Gordon Stakes run at Goodwood. It was possibly a little disappointing that he peaked in the final 200m that day, but Jan Brueghel won the St Leger and the 2nd Bellum Justum won a big pot in America so the form has a rock solid look. I'd also say he probably wasn't in peak condition given Australia would have been the main aim. He is now in the hands of Ciaron Maher who has been very happy with him since he arrived in Oz and from stall 2 he looks a big player off bottom weight. Verdict - Sayedaty Sadaty, Zardozi, Duke de Sessa, Warmonger, Eliyass and Buckeroo look the 6 to focus on for me. Eliyass' draw is enough for me not to want to back him. Whilst I am happy to forgive Warmonger's last time effort again the draw isn't ideal. I have to have Buckeroo onside because he looks in career best form at the moment and the Turnbull effort was first class. Zardozi is also in peak form and if the rain comes then confidence would be even higher for her. I will make Sayedaty Sadaty the main winner though as he looks over priced on his UK form and looks a fairly solid e/w play at double figure odds. I will also have a small e/w play on Duke de Sessa who I can see lasting a long way from the front and given it can be hard to make up ground at Caulfield that could be a big advantage. Sayedaty Sadaty e/w @ 14/1 to 4 places or 12/1 to 5 places with William Hill Zardozi @ 13/2 with Betfair and Paddy Power Buckeroo @ 7/2 with William Hill Duke de Sessa e/w @ 18/1 to 5 places with William Hill5 points
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Racing chat-saturday 19th October
fd1972uk and 3 others reacted to Villa Chris for a topic
My ratings for the 4.35 Ascot Sir Busker 50.5 Lattam 50 Bopedo 49.5 Carrytheone 48.2 New way of rating them up see how it does.4 points -
Racing chat-saturday 19th October
Robski and 3 others reacted to Tedthewolf for a topic
Balmoral Handicap BOPEDRO currently 12/1 TOIMY SON currently 14/1 & STAR OF ORION currently 40/1 are my 3 e/w against the field.4 points -
Racing chat-saturday 19th October
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Shouldvebeenarirg 1 55Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 66/1 Perscia 3 55Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 66/1 Carrytheone 4 35Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1 - Won Witchhunter 4 35Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 28/1 -3rd Nashwa 3 55Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 40/1 Bucaenero Fuerte 1 55Asc 1/40th of a pt we 28/1 Checkandchallange 3 15Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 50/1 P/L + 179.80 pts4 points -
Racing chat- Friday 18th October.
yossa6133 and 3 others reacted to calva decoy for a topic
3.20 Uttoxeter - MIXEDWAVE 5/1 William Hill , local yards string been running well , horse may need run but consistent type & if drifts may go in again each way .4 points -
Racing chat-saturday 19th October
fd1972uk and 3 others reacted to The Brigadier for a topic
Ascot 1.20 The opener on Champions Day which will be run on testing ground is the 1M 7 1/2F Qipco Long Distance Cup in which we have the day’s shortest priced favourite in the shape of Aidan O’Brien’s Kyprios. He’s unbeaten in six starts this season including the Ascot and Goodwood Gold Cups along with the Irish St Leger and Prix du Cadran. He handles bad ground and should be winning this as long as this race doesn’t come too soon after his exertions in Paris only a fortnight ago. I would be against most of the favourites today but I do think that Kyprios is a class apart and can’t look beyond him. Those who are looking for some each way value I would look no further than his stablemate The Euphrates who is only rated 6lb behind him on official ratings following his improved effort when winning the Irish Cesarewitch when upped in trip last time out. He is too big a price in the market and is worth a small stakes each way saver. KYPRIOS 2 points win @ 4/5 Betfred THE EUPRATES 1/2 point each way @ 33/1 bet365 1/5 123 Ascot 1.55 The 6F Group 1 Qipco Sprint has attracted a maximum field of twenty and with a history of big priced winners it’s worth looking for some value. Karl Burke saddles three runners here and its his four-year-old Swingalong who is on my short list. A credible fourth last year he found himself isolated last time out at Haydock on the near side rail and I expect a big showing from him today. Kinross won this two years ago and was runner up last year but if you fancy him then surely its worth taking a chance on the French raider Beauvatier who was given far too much to do last time out in the Prix Forest over 7F coming home 3/4L behind Kinross and is a much bigger price. Only out of the frame once in his eleven race career when beating one home in the French 2000 Guineas he is the main value pick in an open looking sprint where a case can be made for many. BEAUVATIER 1 point each way @ 16/1 William Hill 1/5th 1234 SWINGALONG 1 point each way @ 12/1 bet365 1/5th 1234 Ascot 2.35 A maximum field of fourteen run in the Group 1 Qipco Fillies & Mares Stakes. I have to be against the favourite Kalpana here as she has yet to encounter ground conditions as wet as she will this afternoon and has to be taken on. Two mud larks who look good each way value are Jessie Harrington’s Village Voice and the German raider Quantanamera. The latter looks excellent each way value on ground she obviously relishes. She impressed when a 4L winner from the useful mudlark Arrest in a Group 2 at Deauville in August and has been trained for this race since. Only 3lb behind the top rated Content in the race I’m expecting a big run from her. QUANTANAMERA 1 point each way @ 11/1 BetVictor 1/5th 1234 Ascot 3.15 The Group 1 1M Queen Elizabeth II Stakes has attracted a classy field of thirteen with the favourite and most likely winner being this year’s best older miler trained at Newmarket by Roger Varian, Charyn. He will be hard one to beat but has been priced accordingly and I’ll be looking for some each way value against him. Facteur Cheval is one of two French trained runners in the field and having finished a credible runner up to the impressive Big Rock in this last year appeals on his favoured ground as the best value bet. Trained by J Reynier he’s not had his favoured soft ground since this race last year but has run well in defeat in top company winning the Dubai Turf at Meydan in March and possibly finding the fast ground against him since. FACTEUR CHEVAL 1 point each way @ 9/1 888sport 1/5th 123 Ascot 3.55 There’s £1,300,000 on the table for the finishing places in the Group 1 Qipco Champion Stakes run over 1M 2F and features arguably two of the four best middle distance horses in Europe in the Irish Champion Stakes victor Economics and Juddmonte International Stakes at York runner up Calandagon. Preference is for the latter who we know will handle conditions well having won twice in the spring on heavy ground in France whilst Economics has yet to be tested on very soft ground. Calandagan went down by a length to City Of Troy last time out and is rated 2lb superior to Economics. The betting suggests it’s a two runner race with the third in being the Arc de Triomphe third Los Angeles who may not appreciate dropping back to 10F. A race to savour but it must be Calandagon for me. CALANDAGAN 1 point win @ 13/8 BetVictor Ascot 4.35 A maximum field of twenty spread across the starlight course run in the class 2 Balmoral Handicap which as usual looks wide open and with the last two winners being priced at 80/1 and 25/1 this looks a race to find a lively outsider. Step forward this year’s Lincoln winner Mr Professor who loves the mud and is now 5lb higher than that victory here. His two moderate runs since can be put down to the ground conditions as both of those efforts were run on fast ground. He’s left Dominic Ffrench-Davis and joined Raphael Freire and appeals at a big price each way with additional places. The other horse I like is at the head of the market in the shape of the Irish challenger State Actor who is already a winner on heavy ground in his six race career and went down by a head in the Irish Cambridgeshire last time out when well backed. Chris Hayes takes the ride and like the each way pick Mr Professor is drawn on the far side which seemed to be an advantage in the race last year on similarly soft ground. MR PROFESSOR 1 point each way @ 25/1bet365 1/5th 12345 STATE ACTOR 1 point each way @ 8/1 bet365 1/5th 123454 points -
Racing chat-saturday 19th October
fd1972uk and 2 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
Sprint stakes ascot form and class Kinross. 466 692 total 1158 Montassib. 463 697 total 1160 Kind of blue. 462 694 total 1156 These three are a bit clear .....top 2 are completely at home on soft .....kind of blue would prefer fast ground so I'll oppose. Top two for me at 11/2 and 6/1 .....5pt wins both3 points -
Weekend Football Bets > 17th - 21st October
ThunderDan9 and 2 others reacted to monty63 for a topic
Tottenham v West Ham 12:30 Tomorrow Brennan Johnson Shown a Card Super Sub Ipswich v Everton 15:00 Tomorrow James Garner Shown a Card Super Sub Omari Hutchinson Shown a Card Super Sub Newcastle v Brighton 15:00 Tomorrow Carlos Baleba Shown a Card Super Sub Stake £2.50 Potential Returns £1473.22 good luck what ever you do3 points -
Not a bad day 15 pts profit 22/1 place and 8/1 winner.that got gambled into 7/2. 8,s and 9,s available all morning.3 points
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To be clear, if you can cherry pick long odds winners then of course that's likely to be more profitable than backing favourites - in either case though you need an edge and it's true that edge is potentially bigger the bigger the odds get. But it's very difficult to pick long odds winners on a consistent enough basis and that's where problems can come in like very long losing runs which make you question what you're doing and which confuse the objective of trying to beat the bookies even further. To simplify, if I could back a hundred to one winner because I knew it was going to win then of course I'd do that instead of backing at short odds. But I don't know it's going to win - or any other bet at any odds for that matter - and that's the key point. Losing has to be factored in to what you're doing and you will lose more the higher up the odds tree you go. Personally, I'll back at all odds ranges and I can never understand anyone who says that backing favourites or odds on is a waste of time. The returns are smaller of course and the yield is smaller, but it's a great counterbalance to the volatility of the longer odds bets I take and it provides a great and stable foundation. In that way it's no different to low yield but stable stocks or trackers and plenty of people invest in those and clearly don't think they're a waste of time. If you only back at long odds against then expect to be up and down like Tower Bridge and you're also swimming even further against the tide of the bookies odds because the odds are almost exponentially more unfair the bigger they get. You can get around that handicap by using the exchanges, but so many don't do that and back at lower odds meaning a lower return for the same stake.3 points
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Racing chat-saturday 19th October
The Equaliser and 2 others reacted to ivans82 for a topic
EW Treble 120 Trawlerman 155 Kinross 435 State Actor...........all well known mud lovers . Last year the first 4 home in the Balmoral were all drawn low , so apart from State Actor , Bopedro is a possible bet as well .3 points -
Weekend Football Bets > 17th - 21st October
MinellaWorksop and 2 others reacted to yossa6133 for a topic
Leeds should beat Sheffield United tonight. Sheffield are very flattered to be in 2nd place, I don't think they are a good side at all but have made the most of their recent soft fixtures. 3pts win 9/10 Bet365 (2 goal ahead early payout) P/L: -2.8pts Took a while but deserved to win.3 points -
SPEED RATINGS
black rabbit and 2 others reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
The only selection on Wednesday won at 12/1 and finally I move into profit. On the 22nd of September I changed my approach to concentrate on those horses with very high speed figures (the top 2%). The results since then have been 21 wins from 99 selections with a profit of 42.44 points. Today's selections COURSE TIME SELECTION ODDS BOOKMAKER PLACES Redcar 1.52 Harry's Halo 4.25 LADBROKES 4 Redcar 2.27 Parisiac 8.50 BET VICTOR Haydock 3.30 Trilby 1.25 BET VICTOR Haydock 4.05 Palmar Bay 5.50 LADBROKES3 points -
Last Man Standing 1 - Week 7 (Deadline 3pm Saturday Oct 5th)
Gazza's United and 2 others reacted to chillymonster for a topic
Boo, it's a hard week, I believe this week might be the last so lets carry on, keep the excitemeht going. 🥲3 points -
so Menzies has to beat Wright today to get in. Razma needs just one win to pip DVD Van Den Bergh could be an interesting one. Prob would need a QF spot. Aspinall and De Decker will need to at least win one really. M.Smith could be a good shout this week after turning in a good performance in the PC. 29th.3 points
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4-35ascot lattam should get his soft ground3 points
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DAILY LUCKY 15
The Equaliser and one other reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
Indeed it was, you need balls of steel sometimes ! I clawed it back over the next few months and the last couple of years have been good. I should spend more time on share analysis and less on the dogs but it's not as enjoyable.2 points -
Just an intersting match from Lehecka. Tsitsipas did not get to a single break point. Lehecka basically blasted him off the court, winning 91% of his 1st serves. Tsitsipas won 4 of 32 points returning the 1st serve, and faced 7 break points in his 10 serve games (which is quite high). So a 6-4 6-4 scoreline looks close but this was really 1 way traffic. Every coach at elite level will look at this match as a blueprint on how to beat Tsitsipas. It is a disaster for Tsitsipas who could feel the effects of this beating for some time to come. One additional match I would add for tomorrow is Muchova to beat Mirra Andreeva. Muchova is a brilliant athlete, and looks to be over her wrist injury. Played great against Kalinskaya after a very sluggish start, but the win never looked in doubt. For me she just has too much court craft, power and nous for Andreeva. Great mover, excellent serve, strong mind and exceptional balance. I had a lazy day today. Watched tennis and chilled the whole day. Kasatkina v Putintseva, Andreeva v Krijickova, demolition from Badosa and solid comeback from Muchova. Muchova and Badosa were terrific.2 points
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Naps - Friday 18th October
roger2256 and one other reacted to LordMulberry for a topic
Nyman 18:15 @ Dundalk 9/1 @ bet3652 points -
I can't see Dolan making the top 32 for the Worlds the way he is playing.2 points
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Some wise words there. @The Equaliser should back the longer priced horses if he has an edge at those prices but I don't think he has the evidence to prove to us or himself that this is the best option. Personally if I was him I would keep a record of all his bets and analyse them by price, he will probably be surprised by the results. I would wait until I had 100 winners before making conclusions. Again it's the same with stocks, I personally invest in individual stocks because I have the knowledge and the experience to do so but I do experience big gains and losses, during the early days of lockdown I lost £100k in one day. I have opened a tracker for my granddaughter but invested this in a world tracker fund and will leave it all in that.2 points
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Naps - Friday 18th October
MCLARKE and one other reacted to Peter York for a topic
Right. That is definitely the very last time. Said it before. Mean it this time. Ban me if I ever tip odds on again please 😡😡😡2 points -
Racing chat-saturday 19th October
MCLARKE and one other reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
315 queen eliz stakes Charyn 472 690 total 1162 Facteur cheval 472 691 total 1163 Henry Longfellow 679 443 total 1113 Tomfana 463 680 total 1143 Interesting .....charyn is very short 6/4 ....but I think looks beatable on soft ....FACTEUR CHEVAL looks the value bet Ew at 9/1 ....I'm happy to play at that 5pt Ew2 points -
Wattimena is becoming infuriating to follow. How is this match still going?2 points
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The Everest is due off at 6.15 at Royal Randwick and will be live on Sky Sports Racing. It is the richest race run on turf and it looks a wide open renewal this year. Here are my thoughts on the runners. I Wish I Win - Was just beaten in this last year and has been running well since. Won a G1 Eagle Farm in June and has run solid races in two G1s at Moonee Valley over 1000m and 1200m when not having either races go his way. Last time in the Manikato he had to come widest of all into the home straight and was still in 11th at the 400m. Has a good record on a wet track as well which is looking like will be very handy and has an obvious chance of going one better. Giga Kick - Won this in 2022 and had to take 12 months off from September 23 to last month. Has had a couple of prep runs in a G3 and G2 both here and they have been solid enough. You would imagine he is ready to peak now after those two efforts. Has good stats on a wet track, has a good draw and if he can find the form he showed before the year off then every chance he will go close. Private Eye - A solid horse who has had a couple of solid runs this prep. He 4th over 1000m here which is too short a trip for him and then last time in The Shorts he was in the wrong part of the track. I Am Me won both those races so does have to revers that form. Has won on both soft and heavy going. Bella Nipotina - She has been so consistent in big psrints over the years and landed another G1 at Eagle Farm in June. This prep she was 2nd in the Concord to I Am Me and then got held up at a key stage in the Premiere here a couple of weeks ago over 1200m. Another who enjoys a wet track and she will run a good race although stall 12 is not ideal. I Am Me - Has had a very good prep having won both the Concorde and The Shorts here. Loves Randwick being 4-5 here and also 2-2 over course and distance. She only just lasted home last time and the worry is how much rain they get as it could just blunt her speed. Wouldn't surprise me if she won, but the weather forecast concerns me. Stefi Magnetica - She beat Bella Nipotina in the G1 Stradbroke at Eagle Farm in June over 1400m and The Shorts 2nd to I Am Me has been her only run since. She had nowhere to go until the 400m and was in 9th at that point. She still didn't have much room until 100m out and she flew home to only be beaten a Long Head. Coming from behind is usually her running style and going up another 100m here will suit. Handles a wet track and every chance she will improve again 2nd up. Sunshine In Paris - Only had 10 starts and ran well in 3 G1 races in the autumn. She finished 2nd in The Galaxy over 1100m, finished 5th in the T J Smith over 1200m and 4th in the All Aged over 1400m. Just had the one run since in the G2 Sheraco at Rosehill over 1200m and just got up having quickened really well. A wet track won't bother her and every chance she could now be ready to win at this level. Joliestar - Landed the 1000 Guineas at Caulfield last November and won the G2 Arrowfield over course and distance on her only start in the Autumn. Bolted up again over course and distance in a G3 in August and was then beaten into 3rd when odds on for the Sheraco. Still unexposed against this level of horse over a sprint trip so could go well. Growing Empire - Craig Williams' ride came under plenty of scrutiny in the G1 Manikato last month at Moonee Valley as he looked set to win, but was just caught on the line. He has only had 6 start and never finished out of the first 2. At Flemington in a Listed Race 2 weeks before the Manikato he won on a Soft 7 so if we see a wet track that shouldn't be an issue. Clearly a talented and progressive sprinter and another who holds very good claims. Traffic Warden - 4th in the Golden Slipper in March which is Australia's biggest 2yo race. This prep he won 1st up in a G2 over 1200m at Rosehill and was then 2nd in the G1 Golden Rose over 1400m again at Rosehill. Had a good duel with top 3yo Broadsiding so the form looks strong so the only worry is if he is up to this level over 1200m. Storm Boy - Was 3rd in the Golden Slipper, but has been behind Traffic Warden in his last two runs finishing 3rd and 4th. Looked like he didn't see out the 1400m last time so the drop down in trip should be ideal. Has won 5 of his 9 starts, but possibly a little below this level at this moment in time. Lady Of Camelot - Won the Golden Slipper and run a couple of solid runs so far this prep when 3rd in the Moir over 1000m at Moonee Valley and whilst only 7th in The Shorts she didn't get the ideal run. Does need to bounce back from that though, but could easily do so. Verdict - The fact that the favourite for this is a bigger price than the favourite for the Caulfield Cup proves how wide open The Everrest is this year. I Wish I Win was a very good 2nd in this last year and has been in good form this prep and he is the main pick to go one better with the forecst rain set to suit. Growing Empire is the pick of the 3yos given he should have won the Manikato and did finish in front of I Wish I Win so he is the 2nd pick. I was tempted by Giga Kick, but am just going to favour the e/w play as being Stefi Magnetica. She will be flying home late and if she had got luck in running probably would have won 1st up behind I Am Me. The Shorts is usually the key trial for this and with proven wet track form I think she can outrun her odds. I Wish I Win @ 11/2 with William Hill Growing Empire @ 15/2 with Bet365 Stefi Magnetica e/w @ 14/1 with Bet365 and William Hill2 points
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Racing chat- Friday 18th October.
black rabbit and one other reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
AW selection Dundalk 7.45 JUST FOR ONE DAY2 points -
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Red 227 Impressor 6/4 4pl 520 Jaminoz 5/4. 5pl Newc 730 Hurstwood 1/1. 4pl £20 place treble. skybet2 points -
The lucky 15s do provide a significant benefit (especially with the X3 bonus) but there will be long losing runs. The more you do then at some stage you should hit the big one and hopefully clear your losses.2 points
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I'm not saying there necessarily is - what I'm saying is, the higher the odds at the bookies go, the more money you can expect to lose per bet. It's easy enough to show what I mean - track the returns on favourites and track the returns on longshots. Over time it'll be no contest - the returns on longshots will be far worse than favourites.2 points
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Haydock 14.55 £10 Nebrook Dream @100/30 William Hill Redcar 15.37 £10 Tender Trap @2/1 William Hill2 points -
We'll have to differ about this. When it comes to the bookies - the bigger the odds the worse the value. If any horses are running for the bookies then it's the ones with the big odds. Any large sample of bets I've ever seen show progressively worse EV the higher the odds get.2 points
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Result: Mini Mack 1st. Won £37.50 October loss to date £97.502 points -
I'm going to try a small stake 5-fold for the afternoon matches. Good luck all Zonneveld, Hempel, Razma, Clemens & Lukeman 16/1 WillHill2 points
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European Tour
ThunderDan9 and one other reacted to Trimble89 for a topic
Does this not go off the European Tour OOM? Where Aspinall is currently in 32nd. Gilding and DVD both currently in but not playing this weekend so at risk. Razma, Rydz, Menzies and Dolan just outside as it stands.2 points -
Ito is in the Osaka semi-final after beating Kenin, Cocciaretto, Lys and "me". She is afterall not so bad. She is not a powerful player but she is intelligent and quite skillful esp. her slices and placement of shots. With the home support, she has every chance to be in the final....... Awaiting the winner of Birrell- Saito QF match.2 points
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This is the final ET event of the year. The final 32 players after this event will make the European Championships With no Joyce (32nd) it means Pikachu could sneak the top 32 with a semi final minimum Woodhouse (35th) could also sneak top 32 but he would have to win the event. Current ranking around 30k (winning purse) And by my math, only these 2 can jump into the top 32 : Woodhouse- must win event Pie - must make semi finals Woodhouse was playing some terrible stuff yesterday otherwise I’d have a little outsider bet on him. Pie looks the interesting one.2 points
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Last Man Standing 1 - Week 7 (Deadline 3pm Saturday Oct 5th)
Gazza's United and one other reacted to ian309 for a topic
No worries mate, best of luck2 points -
Naps - Saturday 19th October
LordMulberry reacted to Gary66 for a topic
4-35 ascot Lattam 14/1 ew coral1 point -
£20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome
The Equaliser reacted to Nigwilliam for a topic
Lost. 1st, 10th, 6th.1 point -
The study bet revival starts here! Didn't have him pegged as a potential penalty taker so that's a nice bonus. On the subject of which, Can for Dortmund at 5/1 is tempting if you can get the price (PP). Just a shame that it seems a bit if a coin toss between him and Guirassy as to who takes the pens.1 point
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European Tour
ThunderDan9 reacted to Fader for a topic
I can't see where he gets any wins 81 average is so poor. Out in R1 last 6 ET tournaments now1 point -
Ron’s Quarter Century
Torque reacted to sunglasses_ron for a topic
Watch a fair bit mate, I’ve watched Tomic closely over the past few weeks, seems to have got his shit together a little, well as much as Tomic can given his approach to the game. Tiafoe was a schoolboy error yeah, I should have known better as watched him against Evans the other day who was a weaker opponent than Vukic and he made hard work of that.1 point -
Naps - Friday 18th October
Wildgarden reacted to silver fox for a topic
2.27 Redcar: Doddie`s Impact @ 14/1 E/W (WHill)1 point -
Last Man Standing 1 - Week 7 (Deadline 3pm Saturday Oct 5th)
Fader reacted to Gazza's United for a topic
Ian, It doesn't feel right in the spirit of the game (LAST MAN STANDING). Let's carry on. Gaz1 point -
BILLY HILLS NAP TABLE - October 2024
LordMulberry reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
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