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340 ripon Marks choice 8.0 class 31 5/2 Surprise picture 7.6 class 22 9/1 Majeski man 7.3 class 23 Khabib 7.2 class 25 Marks choice has been running well I better class but he's had a couple of hard races so it's a,question of whether he can hold his form if he can this is an easier race than he's faced for a while ...close between the others but there's some value in surprise picture who could run into a place at least Marks choice 4pt win 5/2 Surprise pic 1pt ew 9/1

17.40 Newton Abbot Fire Lake 2pt Win C&D winner not so long ago. Unlucky 2nd LTO. Yard are doing well and jockey is a good claimer. Preferred to Bucko's Boy who may now be carrying too much weight. Unseared rider or something like that!

Carlisle. Single. 7.50. Aighear. 4/1... unpl Good luck all.

Got boxed in and still managed to get out and win ....comfortable win ?

Double. 4.55. Epsom. Whistledown. 11/4.... 2nd 6.50.Carl. Chinese Spirit. 10/3.... unpl singles & double. Good luck all.

I would be careful with the Coric bet. Enzo could keep it closer than that. https://twitter.com/damiankust/status/1563326734866399232?s=20&t=XUjK1OJAcyEWDVMArLnurA

If you must do a multiple, here's my approach: 1. Nothing more than doubles 2. Use for bets between about 1/2 and EV This approach keeps the number of bets down, and it's hard enough getting 2 winners. NB: A pair of 1/2 chances in a double pays 5/4. A pait of evens chances in a double pays 3/1.

Well, what a day one it was! Tsitsipas and Fritz must've demolished plenty of those low-priced accas that so many casual bettors love. On the women's side, we had Halep falling to Snigur and Trevisan losing against Rodina, who hasn't played for god knows how long.

And you got a 10% bonus lol. Well heres the thing, There are lots of people who do 4 horse accas and one gg lets them down and they win £000.00 at least you got a half decent return. ?

A better week for winners with most of the top teams producing the expected result so 36 of us found the winning combination (just over 25% success). Nonetheless only Divisions 1,2 and 6 in profit but enough to make us an overalll profit for the week. Star of the week is @Craig bluenose with an immense 33/1 treble followed by @dj.orange with a 10/1 double and 3 others around 5/1. Not surprisingly Craig leads the field with a 200 cushion! We have 6 players with 2 wins.

Having a Mr R.Beckett day. (. anyone can have a off day) Lingfield. Double 2.30. Borough 15/8.... unpl 4.00. Mrs Blennehasset 3/1 singles & double. Wolverhampton. Double. 2.10. Quantum Impact 11/4. 2nd 2.40. Boom Boom Power 11/4.... unpl singles & double. have also put the four horses in L15. Good luck all.

Seems to me that the many negative comments re the multi bet are based around like i said the "Profesional way" I have conceded in various places that the bookies fear the win single more than any other bet but lets be entirely honest here, they are not concerned with the tenner or fiver bet but the big £100/£1000+ bets, their knees only really start to tremble when the likes of JP McMannus turns up with a suitcase. it seems that a bit of snobbery is stopping a few from recognising the "enjoyment angle" (which fair play you didn't) is the whole point of my various comments and the article itself where i was conceding but emphasising- Yes you wont make money unless you are very lucky but for small stakes on a few TV bets "for newbies" the Lucky 15 is both inexpensive and a fun bet with a chance of a return now and again. Again i will emphasise the blanket statement that win singles is the only way to go without adding that you must do your homework and put a lot of time and effort into your selection process to even get anywhere near making a profit is misleading.

A bigger shake up at the top than I anticipated with only 1 of the previous podium surviving to take some of the added money. The final leg multiplier has played a part in positions this month. Well done to Leo who won the final leg and with it has shot to the top of the league with a 1st and 2nd place during August. McG holds on in there in 2nd overall and Rivrd moves up to 3rd proving that you don't necessarily need to win a leg and consistency counts. Thank you to everyone who joined in this month We have a spare week this week before the September league so if @LIKE2FISH would like to select a game type to play I'll try get that set up. (I've currently lost Home Games function yet again so will have to uninstall and reinstall again and hope I get the side bar option back as that's the only time I can click through. ) Winners, I think I've got all your details: 1st @LIKE2FISH £75 + PL Mug and Pens 2nd @McG £45 3rd @Rivrd £30

Yeh I decided against it, just as well. Thankfully my Bonzi bet came in although he made hard work of it.

Ripon. Single. 2.00. Lark Lane. 17/2. win.... unpl Good luck all.

tsitsipas getting destroyed by galan out of all people might be the weirdest thing I ve seen since I ve started watching tennis

Congratulations to @TVYwho wins the most winners competition with several days to go.

I also started out on accumulators, I always had a 6-4-1 on a Saturday. It's a good fun bet but not one I do anymore.

Well, I can't hit anything at the moment, so take this with a grain of salt, but Rogers is usually resilient on home ground. But almost 5.00 is ridiculous given the first round. You clearly either back Kuzmova there or nobody, she even beat Rogers in 2020 without any worries. One set at 2.38 looks interesting as well.

Thanks for always running league Helen & PL for added, gg as always all. I am going to take this Wednesday night off, off out on a day trip and I played 7 nights last week so going to take a night off! With regards to the Pen and Mugs, I have a few sets as played the league games for many years Would anyone like the set I got for this month?

Just the one's I've been backing (only to small stakes). I will keep this going for at least a year. I may start a parallel system where I incorporate some type of form analysis. Any suggestions of a simple factor to use would be welcome.

bit of profit today returns are £36.15 profit of £16.15 MTD £566.44

Here's a real world (albeit "once or twice in a betting lifetime") example, I'd be curious to know how people would have approached this in terms of staking, especially those who favour singles only. World Cup starts, 3 games per day, and a particular prop bet is being priced by one firm at 7/1 or more in every game when it should be more like half those odds. It's a no-brainer to bet it for every game for as long as the generosity lasts. I think I went for something like 20 point singles and a 5 point trixie every day. No doubt not the optimum approach in as much as that can be calculated before the outcome is known, but I'd argue that it would have been a mistake to stick to just singles in those precise circumstances.

Might i suggest to all that the biggest problem with people doing a lucky 15 et al is that they are scared to death of putting a big price horse or two in them looking at some of these comments supports what i am saying. I think the one comment stuck out for me and it was made by @calva decoy" I'm one of the 93-95% of people who don't show a profit over a year though I suspect 80% + on this site will say that they do ." he is bang on the money with this comment and heres why. Most people dont make money on horse race betting, so why do they do it? One of the reasons must be for enjoyment, My brother once said to me without knowing whether i won or lost that i am a mug for betting on horses, Smiling i said in reply, its my enjoyment, i don't drink, i dont go out for fancy meals i go fishing and have a bet on the gg's. My brother continued his beratement until i asked him how much going out for a meal cost (something he does regularly more than once a week, he also drinks) when i pointed out his only return was enjoyment whereas my return was enjoyment and a monetary return now and again he shut the f*** up. Might i suggest to those advocating the win be only angle that is the professional way to back horses and the professional way also means hard work research and dedication, back in the day because of the 9 or 10% off course tax it was impossible to make a profit off course so the Professionals wouldn't bet unless they were on course. We now live in an information driven age where "its all out there" the reason you cannot make money just backing favs is simple, almost everyone uses the same information and backs in unison and the sp gets murdered. the only way to profit from betting gg's is therefore finding info that others miss, this was well documented by Nick Mordin when explaining his and or systems, they had a limited lifespan because the bookies always latched on and adjusted en mass. So how do you maximise your enjoyment should be the question not the win/lose argument. i wont use my own example in the "august experiment" thread but instead i will point to @LEE-GRAYS little experiment with small stakes lucky 15's he was lucky enough to get 3 out of 4 at 10/1 9/1 and 7/1 and returned over £100 for the small outlay of £3.00. dwarfing his returns for his singles part of his experiment. And there is my whole point about lucky 15's "the enjoyment factor" for small stakes. Yes i will agree that long term you will lose with lucky 15's (take that win out of lees experiment and he would be a just few quid down on the month) but every now and again you will probably have a decent payback and if your really lucky a serious one, RE. Lees bet again if the remaining gg had won he would have got around about £1,500 back for an outlay of just £3.00. I rest my case.

E 3.20 Craft In Silk 9/1 Gilbert 9/1 R 4.45 Wadacre Tir 9/1 Easter Icon 12/1 All ew singles (4 Places) and dbls,rev fcs and fc dbls

However I'll be going for the following. Nadal -9.5 games over Rinky Hijikata at 1.86 Borna Coric -7.5 games v Enzo who? at 2.00 Ashlyn Krueger +6.5 games at 1.60 Acca at 5.95 all with Unibet

First thought: Ashlyn Krueger to beat Vika at 7.00 with Betsafe, somehow I feel that Vika might play her last match at Flushing Meadows tonight. Second thought: Borna Coric -7.5 games at 2.00 with Unibet Enzo who?

You are right, most people will show a loss over a year, I'm sure I did for many years. I have made a profit each year for the last 7 years but I have a very strict approach (I only bet singles) and keep meticulous records (I have made over 26,000 bets over the last 7 years). My margin averages 5% so it's critical that I obtain the best odds available which often isn't possible with multiples.

4.45 ripon tommorrows angel 12/1 £5 e/w bet365 placed 5.50 carlisle audit 12/1 £5 e/w bet365

out £2.50 in £0.60 p/l out £25.50 in £32.82

Carlisle. Single. 7.50. Aighear. 4 /1 coral win. Good luck all.

Crystal Palace vs Brentford The midweek Premier League games kick-off with a fascinating all-London fixture between Crystal Palace and Brentford at 7:30pm BST on Tuesday night from Selhurst Park. Both of these two teams have experienced highs and lows this season already and we're only 4 league games into the campaign. Can either team push for a win to give themselves a lift up the table? Crystal Palace were a team I felt could challenge for the top 10 this season after their solid performances last season but it's been a bit of an inconsistent start from the Eagles so far. Just 1 win from their opening 4 league games has left the team down in 12th position but when you add some context to that situation and see that they've already played Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manchester City then it's understandable. Patrick Vieira's men could still be looking to do some transfer business before the end of the window. There is a potential injury blow for the club with Wilfried Zaha a possible doubt for this game. Palace have also only managed to win 2 of their previous 19 top flight derby matches. Home form has been decent recently though with the team winning 4 of their last 6 home league matches. Brentford find themselves in a similar situation to their opponents for this game having won just 1 of their first 4 league matches so far. The Bees have struggled with keeping the goals out this campaign on their travels having conceded 5 of their 6 goals on the road already. The team has also failed to keep a clean sheet in their last 18 top flight away games. Thomas Frank's men are free-scoring this season though with only Arsenal, Manchester City, and Liverpool scoring more than the 9 goals that the team have scored so far. There could be history made in this game with striker Ivan Toney aiming to become the first Brentford player to score in 3 straight away league games in the top flight since David McCulloch pulled off the feat back in 1937. Interestingly, the home side in this fixture haven't lost any of the previous 7 encounters between Crystal Palace and Brentford. Given Palace's home form and Brentford leaky defence on the road, you'd have to say that the signs are pointing towards a home victory here. Brentford haven't won at Crystal Palace since 1957 and I can't see that changing here. The home side seem a decent bet to win this one but we could see a few goals if the form of both teams' back-lines so far is anything to go by. Crystal Palace to Win @ 2.20 with SpreadEx BTTS @ 1.88 with SBK

its a Yankee 6 doubles 4 trebles 1 Fourfold Minimum double required for a return so average target odds must = 5/2 or greater for a profit

Scheffler squanders his lead and McIlroy wins. Fair play to any Rory backers. It's a funny old game this golf malarkey lol. PGA Tour takes a rest for a few weeks, with the Fantasy Golf app not restarting til around September 15th (I think). So I will also be taking a rest from the golf in this time. Though in the meantime there will be plenty of DP World Tour action for your golfing viewing requirements.

has this ever happened to anyone you usually do straight Accas but decided to do a lucky 15 instead and they all romp home

New to betting ? Stick to singles rather than bets made up by bookmakers , there's a good reason why they did this , to make even more profits .

Genk -1 @1.86 Min price to bet: -1.25 @2.04 or -1 @1.75 Model +value: yes Significant team news: - (same squad for Genk as in last few games) Note: No reason to stop trusting Genk as long as the market is above our fair prices, they were impressive again last week, won only with 2-1 but it should've been by 3 goals really, they allowed almost nothing to Cercle, conceded out of the blue right at the start of the 2nd half, from what was only Cercle's 2nd shot from inside the box (they finished with 3; Genk had 14) and missed quite a few chances, it was especially amazing they failed to score from set pieces, especially corner kicks, from which they looked very very dangerous indeed, with 3-4 sitters missed. Seraing got a big 3-1 away win at fellow relegation candidates Eupen last week, their first points of the season, and while that will boost their confidence, the problem is that Genk are on another level at the moment, more than likely to bring their hosts down again. About 70.5-71% for an away win for us, Seraing have a narrow ugly pitch that is certainly not something better teams like too much; but that area is their only (small) advantage here. There is -1.25 @2.10 available at the moment, and while this is the hcap we actually prefer to -1 in this case, the problem is that vast majority of the mkt is on -1, so we will stick to lower and uglier price here. St Truiden -1/4 @2.01Min price to bet: -1/4 @1.90 or -1/2 @2.20Model +value: yes, smallSignificant team news: yes, quite a few problems for Mechelen, as they are without first choice gk Coucke, star lw Storm, cb/cm Lavalee, lb Bolingoli; rw Shved a doubt and their important duo from last season, am Mrabti and lb Bijker are both still out as well... first choice cf Hayashi is doubtful for the hosts (should be out)Note: We can say that Mechelen are severely weakened here, their team-news are truly poor, but they were in even worse situation last week and still somehow managed to beat Westerlo 5-4 (and they were 2-4 down with 15 mins to go), in a weird game that featured some terrible defending and goalkeeping. However, it's difficult to ignore these problems at Mechelen, let's not forget they also lost last season top scorer cf Cuypers to Gent this summer, and at this stage they don't look like the side who should challenge for UECL playofs. St Truiden got their first win of the season last week (1-0 at Oostende), but they lost only to Anderlecht this season, despite playing 2 other strong teams in Gent and Union SG; and actually, if we look back at last season as well, loss against Anderlecht was the only defeat St Truiden have suffered in last 14 league games. It's not ideal that cf Hayashi is (likely) out, but his other countrymen are all available, with Japanese legends Kagawa and Okazaki set to lead the line, and rwb Hashioka and gk Schmidt to start as well, as usual. We like the hosts at these prices, est hw at 48.5-49% after some adjustment for team news.

Sorry Real Betis is today Just a double please then.

10 points double please 1. Sheffield Wednesday v Forest Green @ 1.53 1. Leyton Orient v Hartlepool @ 1.67

Bremen v Frankfurt - Over @ 1.57 Rangers v Ross County - Over @ 1.5 Double - 20 pts

Over 3.5 goals Man City 72pt win

Liverpool - Bornemouth 1 @ 1.10 44 units

Man City 1.18 Arsenal 1.28 Liverpool 1.1 25 points treble

A few from the wkend!

Normally nt off, but few day 2's! Cashed in all my day 2's , just posted 1 on the day 2 cashes others were not significant for me.

Few Sunday ones.

Usually have Tuesday off! Start the Month off with a W and 2nd.

31/7/22