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first two won, one winning double ........... + 15.754 points -
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Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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Beckett has chosen to run first time out Ar Rayyan in the 5.15 Kempton against a hot fav that had behind it four subsequent winners from last race. Beckett has won this race last two years,2/2 and his runner imo is the value pick, boosted 6/1 bet365.4 points -
Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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Three Selections today.. 14.05 Ludlow Shelikesthelights 9/2 (free bet if 2nd) 15.35 Ludlow Isabella Bee 11/4 1605 Ludlow Olivers Travels 2/1 All Prices/offers are from Betfred at 12.154 points -
Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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4.05 Ludlow. Topofthecotswolds. 143.5/1. Presantandcounting.139. 18/1. Sacre coure. 139. 14/1. 2pts win topofthecotswolds. 1pt f.cast with other 2 rated 139.4 points -
DPW Tour Open de France 2024
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For the Open de France, I've shortlisted the following on Betfair - - Rasmus Hojgaard win 15/1 - Niklas Norgaard win 33/1 - Sebastian Soderberg win 64/1 - Jesper Svensson win 84/1 - Matthew Jordan win 119/1 Will look at options for top 10 based on available prices Good luck on your selections this week!3 points -
Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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715 kemp class Chalk mountain 456 3/1 Mezzo soprano. 452 9/2 Aljari. 452 16/1 Chalk mountain is a horse on the upgrade and should make a bold bid ......aljaris value is off the scale ....I think bet365 have priced this race wrong ....should be around 6/1 not 16/1 !!!..... 5 PT win chalk 3pt Ew aljari3 points -
Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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The winner produced a faster time than a class 2....2 weeks ago .....that's some horse and will win again wherever he goes especially at class 2 or less ..and could have gone much faster ......he's listed class3 points -
It's rare for me to get involved before a tourney starts - It's hard enough to pick a winner with a round to go - but Niklas Norgaard at 41.00 with MGM looks a fair price. A recent winner on the European Tour and sometimes one win and the confidence it brings can lead to another quite quickly.3 points
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Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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AW selection Kempton 7.15 UPSCALE3 points -
£20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome
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I'm picking my 5 horses today from the Racing Post's Free Tips page, which is basically tips from their regional correspondents. There's about 25 tips so I'm narrowing it down ....... flat races only, no odds on. Most of the tips are for the jumps meetings so that might be worth looking at another day Nott 3.45 - Gentle Warrior 9/2 Kemp 4.43 - Yankee Dude 9/4 Kemp 6.45 - Midnight Drive 7/2 Kemp 7.15 - Chalk Mountain 7/2 Kemp 7.45 - Aspire to Glory 13/2 prices skybet 10 x £2 doubles3 points -
£20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome
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Nott 450 Wintercrack 11/1 £10 ew bet365.3 points -
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Kempton 17.45 £20 Nightbird @5/2 bet3653 points -
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2.45 Nott: Seek and Destroy @ 11/4 (Bet365)3 points -
Racing Chat - Friday 11th October
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York 1.30 The first of ten races covered by the ITV cameras is a highly competitive sixteen runner class 2 1M handicap. With the ground currently riding soft (heavy in places) and with the odd shower still to come we need to be looking for a real mudlark. Step forward Tony Coyle & Kaine Wood’s five-year-old Thunder Roar who won two 7F handicaps on heavy ground at this time last year here and at Doncaster. He’s run well when conditions have been on the sloppy side this season finishing 1/2L runner up to the re-opposing Look Back Smiling at Doncaster’s Lincoln meeting for which he is now a pound better off. His latest run also was a good one at Ascot on soft ground against horses rated higher than him and the handicapper has raised him 4lb in future handicaps so he is effectively 4lb well in today. He’s the pick although as earlier stated if I like him I must have a small stakes each way saver on Gemma Tutty’s Look Back Smiling at a nice price as his soft ground form ties in with the selection. THUNDER ROAR 1 point each way @ 14/1 bet365 1/5th 12345 LOOK BACK SMILING 1/4 point each way @ 16/1 bet365 1/5th 12345 Newmarket 1.47 The first of five races at the headquarters of racing covered by terrestrial television is the Group 3 Cornwallis Stakes run over 5F with a dozen juvenile sprinters declaring. Nothing really stands out to me with the likes of The Striking Viking, Treasure Isle, Coto De Caza and Grande Marques all found wanting already in this grade or higher. One horse who may be better than we’ve seen so far is the Saeed Bin Suroor trained Midnight Thunder who bar getting left ten lengths at the start on his debut would be chasing a four timer today. He’s looked good at Windsor and Yarmouth this autumn with all three of his runs coming over 6F. He’s shown plenty of pace mind and had his latest victory sewn up at the furlong pole so the drop to the minimum trip is not a worry. Oisin Murphy has a great record with the under used Godolphin trainer and he looks the value bet. MIDNIGHT THUNDER 1 point win @ 9/2 Bet365 York 2.05 A bumper field of fifteen two-year-olds have declared for this 7F EBF £100,000 Final. Although he has yet to race on anything like what he will encounter today the favourite, the Ralph Beckett trained Amiloc, will be hard to beat with his family all seemingly suited by soft ground. His sire Postponed was 2 from 2 on soft whilst his dam Colima won on her only start on soft ground. His half brother Chamade was also 2 from 2 on soft (including in listed company) and with his dam and half brother both trained by Beckett surely he will know whether he’ll go on the surface. He’s unbeaten in two starts on the all-weather at Kempton this season and this doesn’t look the strongest of races, with very little soft ground form to consider, so he is the selection. AMILOC 1 point win @ 7/2 bet365 Newmarket 2.25 Ten run in the Group 3 Oh So Sharp Stakes run over 7F for two-year-old fillies. Ralph Beckett’s Cathedral is an interesting runner having bolted up on her only run which came in a all-weather maiden at Lingfield (3rd won since) and can be competitive but I prefer the more solid form pick in Ollie Sangster’s Flight who is the highest rated filly in the race. She bumped into a couple of useful sorts on her first two outings prior to comfortably breaking her duck at Sandown in August. Raised in class she certainly wasn’t disgraced in finishing third in the Group 2 May Hill at Doncaster last time over a mile behind the useful Desert Flower and shouldn’t mind the drop back a furlong today. Oisin Murphy has been aboard her for the last two outings and retains the partnership here. FLIGHT 1 point each way @ 9/2 bet365 1/5th 123 York 2.40 Seven have declared for this 1M 6F three-year-old handicap worth over £50,000 to the winner. Theres plenty of soft/heavy form on show with the likes of The Reverand (up 9lb for winning in the mud at Ascot), Who’s Glen (up 12lb for heavy ground win at Chepstow) and Forest Gate (up 7lb, though carrying just a 6lb penalty today for a heavy ground win at Epsom). They all have chances but it’s the top weight of David Menusier’s Master Builder that appeals the most. He followed a highly credible third in the Melrose Handicap at York by winning at Haydock over today’s trip of 1M 6F a fortnight later. The 3rd has won since from that race to boost the form and he showed he handles the mud when winning at Salisbury back in May beating the now 105 rated Subsequent off of levels by a head. despite top weight he may still be ahead of his mark which is currently 95 and he’s the selection under Danny Tudhope. MASTER BUILDER 1 point win @ 2/1 BetVictor Newmarket 3.00 Eleven run in the Group 2 Challenge Stakes run over 7F which has quite an open look about it this year. Current favourite is the Charlie Appleby trained Noble Dynasty who lost his chance when slowly away at Goodwood last time. Any ease in the ground however would seem to be against him (he was pulled out on officially good ground at Haydock in June) and you can also pick holes in his form when winning here on the July course in June. He’s a lay for me and the one I want to be with is the Paul & Oliver Cole trained Royal Scotsman. He hasn’t been seen since bolting up at Epsom’s Derby meeting in June, a 132 day absence which I must admit is a bit of a worry although he has run one of his career best races when third in last seasons 2000 Guineas following a 210 day break last year. Still entered in next weekend’s Group 1 Queen Elizabeth II Stakes at Ascot he may just be too good for these if straight enough with Jamie Spencer on top. ROYAL SCOTSMAN 1 point each way @ 4/1 bet365 1/5th 1234 Chepstow 3.15 The first signs that the National Hunt season proper are just around the corner is this Chepstow two day fixture with the feature race being the 2M 3 1/2F Grade 2 Persian War Novices’ Hurdle which has attracted a field of seven. It’s a tough race with all bar Bullets Hill, the rank outsider in with a chance of sorts but it’s the highest officially rated runner Intense Approach who appeals the most. The only Irish runner in the race, John C McConnell’s five-year-old has already won a maiden and a novice hurdle at Downpatrick and Kelso this autumn so will certainly lose nothing in match fitness today. Harry Cobden is an eye catching booking taking over from 5lb conditional jockey Alex Harvey and is the pick. INTENSE APPROACH 1 point win @ 10/3 Hills Newmarket 3.35 The feature race of today’s racing is the Group 1 Fillies’ Mile which is contested by seven juveniles. The form pick and one they all have to beat is surely the Charlie Appleby trained Desert Flower who is unbeaten in three starts this season including last time out in the Group 2 May Hill Stakes over today’s trip at Doncaster in September. She did that well defeating the re-opposing January, who looks held, and is a confident selection. DESERT FLOWER 1 point win @ 6/4 Betfred Chepstow 3.50 The second national hunt race shown by the ITV team this afternoon is this 2M 7 1/2F veterans handicap chase in which a healthy field of eleven go to post. Fitness at this time of year is a major factor and one horse who has a terrific record fresh which reads 111121171 is the Nigel Twiston-Davies trained Good Boy Bobby who was my selection in this race a year ago when coming from the clouds over the last to get up on the line beating Aye Right by a neck. He went on to follow up from a 3lb higher mark at Sandown a month later but failed to win in four previous starts. He’s now just a pound higher than last year’s victory but 2lb lower than his last win and with his stable in terrific form and his record fresh looks the one to be with. GOOD BOY BOBBY 1 point win @ 4/1 bet365 Newmarket 4.10 One of the most competitive handicaps of the day is the 1M 4F Old Rowley Cup Handicap featuring fifteen runners but the bet of the day runs here in the shape of the Andrew Balding improver Mount Atlas who will be ridden by Oisin Murphy. Only his fifth ever career start (he unseated 5F out on his debut) he showed on his handicap debut that he was progressing the right way when winning a class 2 1M 4F handicap at Ascot by half a length from Insanity. That form has worked out remarkably well with the runner up winning since along with the 3rd (Melrose Handicap), 5th (listed race by 8 1/2L) and the 6th ( by 7 1/2L). Even the 7th has run well in finishing 3rd in a class 2 York handicap (beaten 1 3/4L). The handicapper has shunted up the selection 7lb but that may be lenient and he has a major each way chance. Due To Henry is another who’s form has been boosted and could feature although he like a few here have stamina to prove. MOUNT ATLAS 2 points each way @ 5/1 bet365 1/5th 12342 points -
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Bet Builder Sites
harry_rag and one other reacted to StevieDay1983 for a topic
I'm with you, @tschurchy, and I use Bet365's bet builder for the odds boost when it comes to football. I generally tend to put a winning result, scorer, and bookings in the bet builder with the odd dabble in corners and shots on goal. I'm keen to hear what other bookies offer decent bet builders. You can never have too many go-to options in my opinion!2 points -
I've not got anybody to root for in the top half tonight, so I'm looking for a bit of value for somebody who could potentially beat Humphries to a final slot. I'm torn between Clayton, Ross Smith and Aspinall. R.Smith 16/1 Aspinall 18/1 Clayton 25/1 perhaps Clayton is the value. Ross was brilliant last round, but I feel he no longer throws more than 2 good performances in a row.2 points
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Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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Aljarie 7 15Kem 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1 Watchya 8 15Kem 1/40th of a pt ew 22/12 points -
£20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome
Wildgarden and one other reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
Kempton 6.45 MIDNIGHT DRIVE 4/1 £10 EW Ladbrokes 4 places2 points -
Naps - Wednesday 9th October
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1-45 nott Tommy two hoots 33/1 coral2 points -
DPW Tour Open de France 2024
fd1972uk and one other reacted to MinellaWorksop for a topic
One I like this week: Victor Perez 27/1 Bet365 Enhanced Win market Played really well in the Olympics at this week's same course so that will do for me.2 points -
Tennis Tips - October 7 - October 13
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Ekaterina Alexandrova to beat Kalinskaya at 2.50 with Circa These odds should be close to reversed. I am marking Alexandrova @ around 1.70 favorite in the match. She holds 5-0 h2h record. 4 of which were straight set wins, and a come from behind win in the last match down a set. I saw a bit vs Kenin, and she was slamming serves down from the moon and crunching her groundies the way I like to see. Clear serving advantage, and the rest of the matchup should play out fairly even. I don't trust Kalinskaya right now also. She retired twice in back to back tournaments earlier this year Wimbledon and Toronto. I think we are getting the fitter, more powerful and experienced player here at a discounted price for some reason. Also if you saw Czech back her in the top above this.. He must not have concerns about her form either, but this is not the reason for the tip. I like what I saw, and I am also going going against Kalinskaya. At the very least.. this match should hang in the balance to either side, and you could label the odds as a coin flip to the winner making this an auto bet with a 25% return implied for all bets won.2 points -
2024 World Grand Prix
ThunderDan9 and one other reacted to Fader for a topic
Anderson lucky to stick around too. It’s such a short game it seems. Would it kill them to have it 3 sets like the worlds when it’s a big ranking event2 points -
SBK offer plenty of bet builders, mostly on football but also on American football, with boosts of 25% and sometimes 50% They generally offer good odds on single bets, not sure about the bet builders I must admit I've been pretty useless with them so far but I've had a few near misses so hopefully my luck will turn soon2 points
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It's difficult to find a natural divide for a midweek and weekend split here so I've gone for a one thread fits all approach. The Nations League games span Thursday to Tuesday so we'll go with those dates (there are a few games in the Americas that start in the early hours of the Wednesday our time). Thursday: England play Greece, Ireland travel to Finland. Italy v Belgium probably the game of the day. There are Africa Cup of Nations qualifiers and U21 qualifiers as well. There are World Cup qualifiers in South America and Asia. Friday: More of all those, Wales travel to Iceland. There are a few games in the Scottish Challenge Cup. Saturday: Scotland and Northern Ireland travel to Croatia and Belarus respectively. There are a few games in Leagues 1 and 2 and the National Leagues, and cup games North and South of the border. Sunday: England away to Finland and Ireland away to Greece. An MLS game to add to the mix. Monday: Wales host Montenegro. Belgium v France and Germany v The Netherlands are the high profile games. Tuesday: Scotland entertain Portugal, Northern Ireland welcome Builgaria. That's a summary with a few highlights. Those of you who don't see this as time for a few days off the footy punting, share your thoughts and bets with us below.1 point
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I've got a double on the Women's CL ...... betting against the two English teams Bayern already beat Arsenal and currently 0-0 City v Barca Since I dumped cable TV and no longer have the Sports Channels most of the football I watch is women's games who'd have thought it a few years ago !1 point
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2024 World Grand Prix
ThunderDan9 reacted to Fader for a topic
Ill be going with these two tonight : Humphries and Aspinall both to win and hit the most 180s 3/1 Paddypower 4-fold - over 7.5 180s (Clayton v R.Smith) / Humphries to beat Pie 3-0 / Aspinall to win and hit most 180s / Schindler most 180s against Cross - 14/1 Paddypower1 point -
£20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome
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Bet Builder Sites
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Who are the top bookies for bet builders? I like a bet builder to make a game more interesting and mostly use bet365 because they often boost the winnings. But, I'm interested to know if there are other bookies out there that members would recommend?1 point -
Bet Builder Sites
StevieDay1983 reacted to Fader for a topic
I tend to go between b365, paddy, sb and wh for bookies. In terms of bet builders I normally use sb or paddy. I think main reason though is they tend to have a lot of pre made builders and I just go with what I fancy from those. As opposed to be being bothered to go through each option if only there was a bookie that showed stats on each market alongside the builder.1 point -
Naps - Wednesday 9th October
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Kempton 6.15 Electricfarhh 10/1 win bet3651 point -
2024 World Grand Prix
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GL Of those three I would pick Aspinall, and I think he wins tonight. Smith/Clayton I don't have a clue... but yes, maybe Clayton shouldn't be so much longer than Ross.1 point -
Racing chat- weds 8th Oct
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435 l Mulberry Hill 5/1 With a run under his belt after break and off 113 over hurdles, in a race trainer won 2023 and '211 point -
DAILY LUCKY 15
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Lucky15Ref: 569273383 4 Selections 5. Hot Dancer - 11/2Winner - 15:15 Nottingham 3. Skinty Fia - 33/1Winner - 16:28 Sedgefield 5. Mbappe - 11/1Winner - 18:45 Kempton 3. Tiger Tulip - 7/1Winner - 20:15 Kempton Stake£0.75 Potential Returns£1,535.571 point -
DAILY LUCKY 15
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Lucky15Ref: 569268175 4 Selections 11. Maura Jeanne - 12/1Winner - 14:58 Sedgefield 3. Asa - 5/1Winner - 15:58 Sedgefield 9. Darkzideofthemoon - 17/2Winner - 16:12 Kempton 13. Scarlet Princess - 7/2Winner - 18:15 Kempton Stake£0.75 Potential Returns£282.921 point -
DAILY LUCKY 15
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Lucky15Ref: 569260840 4 Selections 2. Miss Alpilles - 17/2Winner - 14:45 Nottingham 4. Good Lord - 7/2Winner - 15:28 Sedgefield 3. Hucklesbrook - 5/1Winner - 17:45 Kempton 1. My Clementine - 16/1Winner - 19:45 Kempton Stake£0.75 Potential Returns£363.771 point -
DAILY LUCKY 15
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Lucky15Ref: 569255266 4 Selections 6. Seek And Destroy - 10/3Winner - 14:45 Nottingham 13. Pablo Prince - 15/2Winner - 16:12 Kempton 1. Steel Tiger - 12/1Winner - 16:50 Nottingham 7. Upscale - 4/1Winner - 19:15 Kempton Stake£0.75 Potential Returns£212.751 point -
DAILY LUCKY 15
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Lucky15Ref: 569241211 4 Selections 8. Star Chorus - 33/1Winner - 14:15 Nottingham 3. Manila Thriller - 9/2Winner - 15:45 Nottingham 8. Pursuit Of Truth - 11/2Winner - 18:45 Kempton 6. D Flawless - 10/1Winner - 19:15 Kempton Stake£ 0.75 Potential Returns£ 1,023.701 point -
Naps - Wednesday 9th October
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4.50 Nottingham Wintercrack 11/1 Bet3651 point -
Naps - Wednesday 9th October
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2.15 Nott: Carbine Harvester @ 11/1 E/W (WHill)1 point -
£20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome
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Day 30 -£101 4.43 kempton Rock N It 25/1 £10 e/w bet3651 point -
NFL Week 5 Bets
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Week Five NFL Results The NFL is finally settling down, but there still was several upsets. P5 W2 D1 L2 staked 30pts returned 3.50 pts for a weekly loss of 26.50 pts. YTD P25 W9 D2 L14 Staked 150 pts, returned 7.23 pts = loss of 142.77 pts. (1) Bears to win ATS -3.5 points @ 10/11. Bears come good again 36-10 = WON The Bears came good for me last week. Being at home again should be a big advantage against a poor Panthers team. Chicago wins thanks to the better defence and improving QB play by Caleb Williams. Caleb carved up the Panthers with 304 yards and two touchdowns. His best game so far. (2) Colts to win ATS +3.0 points @ 5/6. Colts gave Jags a real game losing 34-37 = PUSH The public will be all over the Jaguars to get their first win of the season after a promising game against the Texans. The Colts are being under rated. The Colts were down to their backup QB and they still almost won. (3) Seahawks to win ATS -6.0 points at 10/11. Giants take care of Seattle 29-20 = LOST I have often stated how difficult it is to play in Seattle due to the noisy crowd. Whilst Daniel Jones has played better than expected, he may struggle here. Giants had the Seattle QB Geno Smith running for his life. Seven Sacks! This was a major surprise. (4) Jets to win ATS +2.5 points @ Evens. Vikings remain unbeaten 23-17 = LOST I hate backing against Aaron Rodgers and the stout Jets defence. I can see the headlines “Rodgers wins in London”. So I am sticking with the Jets to shut out this talented Vikings team. The Jets defence forced two turnovers while holding Minnesota to one offensive touchdown, but that wasn't enough because the offence played poorly. (5) Ravens to win ATS -2.5 points @ 5/6. Ravens win in Overtime 41-38 = WON The Bengals defence is allowing poor teams to score – Panthers 24, Washington 38 and the New England Patriots 16. The Ravens are a top team. Their defence (number one in the NFL) will stop the Bengals run game. This should be close being a divisional match. The Ravens defence couldn't stop Joe Burrow, but that didn't matter, because Lamar Jackson was around to save the day with 348 yards and four touchdowns. Every time it looked like the Ravens might be out of it, Jackson would get them back in it.1 point -
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DAILY LUCKY 15
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4 winners today, 2 in a double with Billy aboard. The returns were 4.64 from 6.75 pts staked so a small loss of 2.11 for watching 20 races of entertainment. My Loss C/Fwd is L15's - 96.37 and RC P/L incl L15's = -151.051 point -
£20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome
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Placed +£22 -£101 day 281 point -
Hills not bad, doing quite a few 25% boosts of late and the occasional 50%. 365 good for as long as they’re willing to take your business generally! My betting is very much goal, try and TD scorer based, for singles or the occasional BB so I’m more inclined towards the firms who offer good prices in those markets (some are seriously averse to being best price). If you’re combining two players in a BB make sure you’re getting at least very close to the multiplied odds as anything less is pretty poor. I’d also shop around generally to get a sense for who’s best price about the types of BB you like to place. I thought I’d sussed who was best by comparing prices for goalscorer doubles but then found different firms were best and worse for different types of bet.1 point
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Tennis Tips - October 7 - October 13
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Ekaterina Alexandrova to beat Sofia Kenin at 1.66 with Bet365 Kenin looked really unmotivated against Shnaider, let's see which of her sides will turn up tomorrow...1 point -
Game Week 6 Table & Game Week 7 Chat
StevieDay1983 reacted to MinellaWorksop for a topic
This is a major moment to receive the honour of highest scorer of the week. My family can once more claim to know me and banish the shame of being lowest scorer of the week last season lol. I will live off this moment, milking it for all that it is worth. Like a true one hit wonder. Giving after dinner speeches for years to come of how I 'convinced' Heung Min Son not to play for the greater good of the noble FerretWeasel's.1 point