Villa Chris Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Plumpton 2.50 I See You Well 8.6 , 11/4(4/1) no value Young Turk 8.3, 16/1(4/1) value Cheque En Blanc 7.4, 3/1(9/2) no value Gangster 6, 8/1(6/1) value Echo Watt 5.5, 9/4(13/2) no value Hugo N Taz 5.25, 8/1(13/2) value Young Turk is the bet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Villa Chris said: Plumpton 2.50 I See You Well 8.6 , 11/4(4/1) no value Young Turk 8.3, 16/1(4/1) value Cheque En Blanc 7.4, 3/1(9/2) no value Gangster 6, 8/1(6/1) value Echo Watt 5.5, 9/4(13/2) no value Hugo N Taz 5.25, 8/1(13/2) value Young Turk is the bet . 1st I see You Well 2nd Cheque En Blanc 3rd Young Turk not much between them either with all 3 in with a chance approaching the end. Quite pleased with that regarding ratings. vikki37, Pirate53 and Wildgarden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Villa Chris said: 1st I see You Well 2nd Cheque En Blanc 3rd Young Turk not much between them either with all 3 in with a chance approaching the end. Quite pleased with that regarding ratings. Nice one Villa Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 6 hours ago, richard-westwood said: 420 plump Mr jack 8.6 13/2 7/1 value Darkest day 8.0 7/1 9/2 novalue Sawpit Siena 7.5 15/2 11/4 no value Top 2 are clear on ratings so I'll try 2pt win singles both ......mr jack qualifies as ew value bet of race 1st 3rd 2nd mr jack value bet wins .....now we are getting somewhere vikki37, DanV89, Wildgarden and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanV89 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: 1st 3rd 2nd mr jack value bet wins .....now we are getting somewhere Excellent well done Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DanV89 said: Excellent well done Richard. 2 races csnt be wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 9:38 AM, richard-westwood said: Just a,quick race for monday 545 Kemp Vitaline 9.4 11/2 11/2 value Iesha 8.6 6/1 6/1 value Both currently on value threshold so I'll back now while it's there 2nd and 3rd ...ew money....ratings are so accurate ...both value bets Edited January 25, 2021 by richard-westwood Wildgarden, vikki37 and Villa Chris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Kempton 6.45 Poetic Force 8.4, 15/2(4/1) value Soar Above 8.05, 7/1(4/1) value Starshiba 6.8, 5/1(5/1) about right Going Places 6.7, 7/4( 5/1) no value Reaction Time 5.35, 4/1(7/1) no value Equitation 5.05, 8/1(7/1) about right Golden Dragon 1.2, 20/1(35/1) no value Top two rated would be good selections and you could play ew Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Villa Chris said: Kempton 6.45 Poetic Force 8.4, 15/2(4/1) value Soar Above 8.05, 7/1(4/1) value Starshiba 6.8, 5/1(5/1) about right Going Places 6.7, 7/4( 5/1) no value Reaction Time 5.35, 4/1(7/1) no value Equitation 5.05, 8/1(7/1) about right Golden Dragon 1.2, 20/1(35/1) no value Top two rated would be good selections and you could play ew Starshiba wins, with top two not threatening. Wildgarden, vikki37, Wild20 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 hours ago, richard-westwood said: 745 kemp Liva 7.5 11/2 5/1 novalue French mix 7.0 13/2 11/2 novalue Next horse 6.1 so top 2 are clear on form...2pt wins both Liva 3rd ....good run Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 310 wolf Crazy paving 9.9 9/2 3.8 no value At your service 7.8 13/2 8.6 value Elzaams dream 17/2 6/1 no value Highest rating I've seen for top rated...is running after 1 week under no penalty so fitness a question but a full 2.0 ahead ..should be interesting At your service qualifies as value bet but with form diff shoukd be running for a place but I'll back top 2 as form ratings so strong Krazy paving 4pts win 3.8 betfair At your service 2pts win 8.6 betfair Wildgarden and Villa Chris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Wolves 4.10 My Girl Maggie 8.1, 9/4(4/1) no value Horn Of Plenty 7.4, 4/1(9/2) about right Berrahri 6.85, 28/1(5/1) value Richard R H B, 6.6, 11/1(5/1) value Autumn War 6.3, 2/1(5/1) no value Songkran 4.8, 12/1(8/1) value Night Bear 2.4, 10/1(16/1) no value I’d be looking at Horn Of Plenty to win and Berrahri maybe to place going off ratings Edited January 26, 2021 by Villa Chris Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, richard-westwood said: Highest rating I've seen for top rated...is running after 1 week under no penalty so fitness a question but a full 2.0 ahead ..should be interesting Horses running within 5 days have an excellent record on the all-weather with an AE of 1.07 so looks a good bet. richard-westwood and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate53 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Southwell 13.55 Rodney Redblood 22.2 My 6/1 7/2 No Value Qaraat 21.8 My 13/2 4/1 No Value May The Sixth 20.1 My 7/1 5/1 No Value Onebaba 19.5 My 15/2 11/2 No Value Jazz Legend 19.1 My 8/1 4/1 No Value Passing Nod 17.1 My 17/2 20/1 Some Value Tan 15.7 My 10/1 28/1 Some Value Tan or Passing Nod ew the value and Redblood probably wins with Curtis aboard. Edited January 26, 2021 by Pirate53 Added info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 710 wolv Major j 6.9 6/1 9/4 no value Spartikos 5.5 8/1 13.0 good value Desert mist 5.5 8/1 17.0 very good value Major j is quite a bit ahead on form so looks the most likely winner but the other 2 look ew bets .....because hes so far ahead I'll back the fav but interesting to see how the other 2 perform at big prices Major j 4pts win 9/4 Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 hours ago, richard-westwood said: 310 wolf Crazy paving 9.9 9/2 3.8 no value At your service 7.8 13/2 8.6 value Elzaams dream 17/2 6/1 no value Highest rating I've seen for top rated...is running after 1 week under no penalty so fitness a question but a full 2.0 ahead ..should be interesting At your service qualifies as value bet but with form diff shoukd be running for a place but I'll back top 2 as form ratings so strong Krazy paving 4pts win 3.8 betfair At your service 2pts win 8.6 betfair Krazy paving pipped on line 2nd ....elzaams dream 3rd Wildgarden, Villa Chris and vikki37 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild20 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 hours ago, richard-westwood said: 310 wolf Crazy paving 9.9 9/2 3.8 no value At your service 7.8 13/2 8.6 value Elzaams dream 17/2 6/1 no value Highest rating I've seen for top rated...is running after 1 week under no penalty so fitness a question but a full 2.0 ahead ..should be interesting At your service qualifies as value bet but with form diff shoukd be running for a place but I'll back top 2 as form ratings so strong Krazy paving 4pts win 3.8 betfair At your service 2pts win 8.6 betfair I’m watching you, wins Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Richard, do you think these ratings will work well at The Cheltenham festival ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Villa Chris said: Richard, do you think these ratings will work well at The Cheltenham festival ? They should work much better at cheltenham ...the class..form and course form make for bigger gaps so should work really well and it's what I'm waiting for ....the racing at moment is poor but its good practice though for the better racing to come Villa Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: They should work much better at cheltenham ...the class..form and course form make for bigger gaps so should work really well and it's what I'm waiting for ....the racing at moment is poor but its good practice though for the better racing to come I’ve been on a bad run, trying various ways but losing money still . I’m hopeful I can have some success with my ratings so I can try them out at Cheltenham. Got a few weeks to try and pin it down , so will keep practicing whilst keeping my money in my pocket. Can’t wait for the festival . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Villa Chris said: Wolves 4.10 My Girl Maggie 8.1, 9/4(4/1) no value Horn Of Plenty 7.4, 4/1(9/2) about right Berrahri 6.85, 28/1(5/1) value Richard R H B, 6.6, 11/1(5/1) value Autumn War 6.3, 2/1(5/1) no value Songkran 4.8, 12/1(8/1) value Night Bear 2.4, 10/1(16/1) no value I’d be looking at Horn Of Plenty to win and Berrahri maybe to place going off ratings Horn Of Plenty wins with My Girl Maggie second half a length. 4th best rated was third . Well happy with that. Edited January 26, 2021 by Villa Chris vikki37, Wildgarden and richard-westwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, Villa Chris said: I’ve been on a bad run, trying various ways but losing money still . I’m hopeful I can have some success with my ratings so I can try them out at Cheltenham. Got a few weeks to try and pin it down , so will keep practicing whilst keeping my money in my pocket. Can’t wait for the festival . I'll be playing doubles etc at the festival....I think it can nail some big wins ...just hope it goes ahead .looks promising now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, richard-westwood said: I'll be playing doubles etc at the festival....I think it can nail some big wins ...just hope it goes ahead .looks promising now It will definitely go ahead . Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate53 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Wolves 19.10 Major J 21.4 My odds 8/1 2/1 No value The Good Ting 19.43 My odds 17/2 5/1 No value Lady Of Desire 19.37 My odds 17/2 10/1 some value Desert Mist 19.34 My odds 17/2 22/1 value. richard-westwood and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 hours ago, richard-westwood said: 710 wolv Major j 6.9 6/1 9/4 no value Spartikos 5.5 8/1 13.0 good value Desert mist 5.5 8/1 17.0 very good value Major j is quite a bit ahead on form so looks the most likely winner but the other 2 look ew bets .....because hes so far ahead I'll back the fav but interesting to see how the other 2 perform at big prices Major j 4pts win 9/4 2nd .....didn't get run on until too late ....finished like a train... unlucky Pirate53 and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate53 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Pirate53 said: Wolves 19.10 Major J 21.4 My odds 8/1 2/1 No value The Good Ting 19.43 My odds 17/2 5/1 No value Lady Of Desire 19.37 My odds 17/2 10/1 some value Desert Mist 19.34 My odds 17/2 22/1 value. Dr Churchill my 5th rated at 18.62 one of 4 horses on 10/1. Would've been value too at 12/1 SP Wildgarden and richard-westwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Is rating handicaps any different to rating a graded race? Better chance of value in handicaps , but just wondering what people’s thoughts are on ratings for graded races. I’ve had a go at Thurles today (12.45) . At work so don’t have ratings at hand but I have Allaho as a very weak favourite. He’s 10/11 but way down on ratings. Balko Des Flos (25/1)ended up top rated, but I weren’t happy with that and had to adjust his current mark rating to what I think is a realistic score . He looks about right now, and is behind 3-4 on ratings. If I remember right I had Elimay or Easy Game top rated with Battleofdoyen and Annamix just behind. Back on to Balko Des Flos. He drops back to a trip he’s ran very well at in past, but no win since that very classy RyanAir win at Cheltenham (2018). Ran well lto considering he got badly hampered. Runs off 155 so potentially well treated. Anyway we’ll see and I’ll post up how I rated race once I get back from work. I’m hoping it’s pretty accurate as I’d love to be able to use ratings on graded races at the festival Pirate53 and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Villa Chris said: Is rating handicaps any different to rating a graded race? Better chance of value in handicaps , but just wondering what people’s thoughts are on ratings for graded races. I’ve had a go at Thurles today (12.45) . At work so don’t have ratings at hand but I have Allaho as a very weak favourite. He’s 10/11 but way down on ratings. Balko Des Flos (25/1)ended up top rated, but I weren’t happy with that and had to adjust his current mark rating to what I think is a realistic score . He looks about right now, and is behind 3-4 on ratings. If I remember right I had Elimay or Easy Game top rated with Battleofdoyen and Annamix just behind. Back on to Balko Des Flos. He drops back to a trip he’s ran very well at in past, but no win since that very classy RyanAir win at Cheltenham (2018). Ran well lto considering he got badly hampered. Runs off 155 so potentially well treated. Anyway we’ll see and I’ll post up how I rated race once I get back from work. I’m hoping it’s pretty accurate as I’d love to be able to use ratings on graded races at the festival Yes I need to have a look at non hcaps etc .....I think it will need a new set of criteria though different from hcaps as graded races tend to be a mixture of official rating plus form ...plus class moreso .....I'm happy with the hcap criteria so just need to tackle some non hcaps now ......I have a few ideas to try but not sure which will work until I have a go ....its just about getting all the creases ironed out ready for Cheltenham......its gonna be a lot of fun for certain this year Edited January 27, 2021 by richard-westwood Villa Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgarden Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Poor for value racing today maybe a few later tonight have done my 3 value on racing chat page. Everything very close 2miler for the older horses prob the 10 year old will win 3.00pm but too close to call. Edited January 27, 2021 by Wildgarden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgarden Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: Yes I need to have a look at non hcaps etc .....I think it will need a new set of criteria though different from hcaps as graded races tend to be a mixture of official rating plus form ...plus class moreso .....I'm happy with the hcap criteria so just need to tackle some non hcaps now ......I have a few ideas to try but not sure which will work until I have a go ....its just about getting all the creases ironed out ready for Cheltenham......its gonna be a lot of fun for certain this year Happy for anyone to give these a go, I'm all weather specialist if we had some regular value picks for other types of races, all the better. richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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