The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge

[bowles10]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - STEWART/TIPSTER bag festival winners Fin, i had Chief Dan George in my trends yesterday i had a 100/1 2nd, so close ! :ok

[Tedthewolf]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - STEWART/TIPSTER bag festival winners 5.15 PIGEON ISLAND 50 E/W/ CALATAGAN E/W BF The two btm weights here the former has a touch of the seconds but could go well at a big price with stable Jock on top while the later goes well here and has been 3rd at 50's in this in 08 worth a few pence at over 100 on BF. Probably a deduction needed of that as a few NR's Fin:ok

[Tedthewolf]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - STEWART/TIPSTER bag festival winners

Probably a deduction needed of that as a few NR's Fin:ok

15p in the £ around 42.5/1 i think.

[mileni4uk]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - STEWART/TIPSTER bag festival winners Thought I had the first place Fin. We're joint leaders together now ;)

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - STEWART/TIPSTER bag festival winners Ted and Mileni, superb work fellas :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap I will update the table asap. I know it only takes two minutes but I really am pushed for time at the minute with the baby due to arrive anytime soon and due to other commitments, and using the half an hour I have now to get my scoop six pick in for Billy. Will get an updated table up asap.

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - STEWART/TIPSTER bag festival winners Right, Ive gone through the last few days results and think Ive picked out some ones I missed earlier. Mileni, Ted x2, Bowles and Punter Pete have all bagged winners. Bowles had a 180.0 shot that got second and is the closest we have got to someone winning the competition! Well done guys :clap Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge 2010 Price - Tipster - Selection - Date and track - form comment 54/1 - Mileni - THOUSAND STARS (SP 20/1) 19th March, Cheltenham (SP 20/1) - held up in mid-division, headway 2 out, soon chased leaders, led last, ridden and stayed on flat, won by 3 lengths 54/1 - Fintron - GAILY NOBLE - 3rd February, Lingfield - (SP 20/1) broke well, tracked leaders, led inside final furlong, won by 1.25 lengths 42.5/1 - Tedthewolf - PIGEON ISLAND -(SP 16/1) -held up in rear, still enough to do 3 out, headway approaching 2 out, kept on under pressure approaching last to lead 150 yards out, ran on, won by 1.25 lengths 40/1 - Stewartd14 - A NEW STORY - 16th March, Cheltenham - (SP 25/1) - held up in touch, pecked 19th, headway 3 out, ridden after next, challenged last, led flat, stayed on well, won by 2.5 lengths 37.0 - Punterpete - CHIEF DAN GEORGE (SP 33/1) - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish, won by a head 33/1 - Ogii55 - PETERS STAR - 5th February, Catterick - (smashed into SP of 12/1), with leader, led approaching 8th, ridden and under pressure last, stayed on gamely flat, 1 length winner 33/1 - Ogii55 - INOMA JAMES - 31st January, Punchestown - strongly supported into an SP of 16/1, mid-division, headway in 6th 8 out, 2nd next, led before 4 out, ridden clear before 2 out, kept on strongly, eased close home, comfortable seven length winner 33/1 - Jk - LUJIANA - (SP 25/1) 10th January, Southwell - led halfway, ridden 1f out, ran on well and won by 2 lengths 33/1 - Tipster5000 - CHIEF DAN GEORGE- (SP 33/1) 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish, won by a hd 33/1 - Bowles10 - CHIEF DAN GEORGE (bog, SP 33/1) 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish , won by a hd 32/1 - Mileni4uk - PETERS STAR -5th February, Catterick - (40/1, 20p R4, smashed into SP of 12/1), with leader, led approaching 8th, ridden and under pressure last, stayed on gamely flat, 1 length winner 28/1 - Tedthewolf - THE SAWYER - 23rd January, Ascot - (smashed in to SP of 8/1), with leaders, led 7th, made rest, ridden 2 out, kept on flat, just held on 28/1 - Trotter - SANDY TOES - 9th February, Southwell - (SP 33/1) chased leaders, effort over 1f out, hard ridden to lead well inside final furlong, all out, winner by a head 25/1 - Mileni4uk - JACKERS - 24th January, Towcester - (smashed into SP of 11/1), held up towards rear, headway approaching 7th, led after 2 out, stayed on well and 5 length winner 25/1 - Tedthewolf - GREAT ENDEAVOUR (SP 18/1), 18th March, Cheltenham - in touch, headway 12th, challenged 3 out, led before next, ridden last, held on under pressure flat , won by 1.25 lengths 25/1 - Ogii55 - MONKERHOSTIN - 6th February, Sandown (SP 20/1) -held up in rear,steady headway 17th, chased leaders 4 out, challenged and hit 3 out, ridden before last, stayed on gamely to lead last strides, won by a nose. 25/1 - Dannyfield - LUJIANA -10th January, Southwell - led halfway, ridden 1f out, ran on well and won by 2 lengths

[ogii55]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - STEWART/TIPSTER bag festival winners

Race 7

Johnny Henderson chase

Pigeon Island 0.5 E/W

51.00 Lads BOG

French Opera deserves the top weight. Big plus is David Bass’s ride and his 7 lbs claim. Free world run great race last time, I prefer him against French opera, because of the good ground. Tataniano another who is making great season so far. Here the favorites are really a shot. But I will try to find something more valuable. Russian Flag placed in Top 3 in his last 6 races. Always an improving horse, who will be with career low weights in this race. Alex Meriam is capable Russian Flag placed in Top 3 in his last 6 races. Always an improving horse, who will be with career low weights in this race. Alex Meriam is a capable young jockey, who knows very well the animal. The other real big surprise here is PigeonIsland. Always has problems with jumping. If NTD schools him to do better with 10-1 the horse is not only a place contender, but to win also. That’s why I am going for PigeonIsland

Also get the Pigeon Island on my Cheltenham thread, but had r4 0.30 p, so the correct prise for my bet is 35/1

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty Sorry Ogii, I'll update now. Brilliant (and unlucky with L'Aventure yesterday by the way) :clap

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge 2010 Price - Tipster - Selection - Date and track - form comment 54/1 - Mileni4uk - THOUSAND STARS (SP 20/1) 19th March, Cheltenham - held up in mid-division, headway 2 out, soon chased leaders, led last, ridden and stayed on flat, won by 3 lengths 54/1 - Fintron - GAILY NOBLE (SP 20/1) - 3rd February, Lingfield - broke well, tracked leaders, led inside final furlong, won by 1.25 lengths 42.5/1 - Tedthewolf - PIGEON ISLAND -(SP 16/1) - 19th March, Cheltenham - held up in rear, still enough to do 3 out, headway approaching 2 out, kept on under pressure approaching last to lead 150 yards out, ran on, won by 1.25 lengths 40/1 - Stewartd14 - A NEW STORY (SP 25/1) - 16th March, Cheltenham - held up in touch, pecked 19th, headway 3 out, ridden after next, challenged last, led flat, stayed on well, won by 2.5 lengths 37.0 - Punterpete - CHIEF DAN GEORGE (SP 33/1) - 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish, won by a head 35/1 - Ogii55 - PIGEON ISLAND (SP 16/1) - 19th March, Cheltenham - held up in rear, still enough to do 3 out, headway approaching 2 out, kept on under pressure approaching last to lead 150 yards out, ran on, won by 1.25 lengths 33/1 - Ogii55 - PETERS STAR (SP 12/1) - 5th February, Catterick - with leader, led approaching 8th, ridden and under pressure last, stayed on gamely flat, 1 length winner 33/1 - Ogii55 - INOMA JAMES (SP 16/1) - 31st January, Punchestown - , mid-division, headway in 6th 8 out, 2nd next, led before 4 out, ridden clear before 2 out, kept on strongly, eased close home, comfortable seven length winner 33/1 - Jk - LUJIANA - (SP 25/1) 10th January, Southwell - led halfway, ridden 1f out, ran on well and won by 2 lengths 33/1 - Tipster5000 - CHIEF DAN GEORGE- (SP 33/1) 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish, won by a hd 33/1 - Bowles10 - CHIEF DAN GEORGE (bog, SP 33/1) - 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish , won by a hd 32/1 - Mileni4uk - PETERS STAR (SP 12/1) - 5th February, Catterick - with leader, led approaching 8th, ridden and under pressure last, stayed on gamely flat, 1 length winner 28/1 - Tedthewolf - THE SAWYER (SP 8/1) - 23rd January, Ascot - with leaders, led 7th, made rest, ridden 2 out, kept on flat, just held on 28/1 - Trotter - SANDY TOES (SP 33/1) - 9th February, Southwell - chased leaders, effort over 1f out, hard ridden to lead well inside final furlong, all out, winner by a head 25/1 - Mileni4uk - JACKERS (SP 11/1) - 24th January, Towcester - held up towards rear, headway approaching 7th, led after 2 out, stayed on well and 5 length winner 25/1 - Tedthewolf - GREAT ENDEAVOUR (SP 18/1), 18th March, Cheltenham - in touch, headway 12th, challenged 3 out, led before next, ridden last, held on under pressure flat , won by 1.25 lengths 25/1 - Ogii55 - MONKERHOSTIN (SP 20/1) - 6th February, Sandown -held up in rear, steady headway 17th, chased leaders 4 out, challenged and hit 3 out, ridden before last, stayed on gamely to lead last strides, won by a nose. 25/1 - Dannyfield - LUJIANA (SP 25/1) - 10th January, Southwell - led halfway, ridden 1f out, ran on well and won by 2 lengths

[Jimmy2shoes]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty Ok i will change my pick as i understand what stewartd14 is saying so if poss Fintron i will go for Ellandshe 2.40 ayr. The hot fav has already been on the floor and at odds of 1/5 around Ayr is crazy, Ellandshe has already run a good 2nd at sedge and just might give the fav a wee fright, its not out the frame by any means in a race of this standard. Once again sorry about the piss about.

[stewartd14]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty

2-10 Ayr DEER FIN trades at not 100/1 but 150/1, thought i'd show off abit lol. I dont have any reason in this winning its just a shot in the dark, i did have another at Ayr today but its only trading now at 66/1 so what use is that. If DEER FIN wins i will buy a drink for all the PL members, ''just not one each lol'' I think it took me longer to find this thread than DEER FIN will last round Ayr, but its not about the winning its about taken part. 2-10 at AYR ''DEER FIN'' Rent money down lol.

I think the aim of this thread was to find someone that could genuinely pick a 100/1 without the use of a pin mate :tongue2

[Jimmy2shoes]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty

I think the aim of this thread was to find someone that could genuinely pick a 100/1 without the use of a pin mate :tongue2

No probs.

[Jimmy2shoes]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty

I think the aim of this thread was to find someone that could genuinely pick a 100/1 without the use of a pin mate :tongue2

If Fin is ok with it i have changed it, it would be funny if DEER FIN won at 150/1 but i had changed it. Ahh bugger just my luck.

[Tedthewolf]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty From the Irish National thread Fin:ok Starburst Newbie Punter Join Date: 13 Mar 2010 Age: 41 Posts: 8 Irish Grand National Some trends which may help. 1. Only 1 horse older than 9 in last 10 runnings. 2. Only 1 of the last 10 winners carried more than 10-12(Commanche Court in 2000 carried 11-04 and was rated 134). 3. 8 0f last 10 winners carried 10-08 or below. 4 All of the last 10 winners had an official rating between 121 and 136. 5. Only 1 of the last 10 winners had not won over three miles 6. Of the last 12 winners none had run more than 8 times in handicap chases prior to this . 7. The last 8 winners had no more than 2 runs since the turn of the year 8. 10 of the last 12 winners had made the frame in at least one of the last two starts 9. 6 of the last 7 Irish winners had previous Fairyhouse form. Some other notes. Leading Irish trainer Wille Mullins has never won the race. Also his last 10 runners since 2001 have ALL been unplaced. Michael Hourigan has had 10 runners whithout winning. Of the 10 5 have placed at odds of 16/1 or bigger. In the last 10 years no winner has returned shorter than 9/1. There has been no winning favourite since 1999 and then it was co-fav of 5. Using these trends and other angles my 2 are: Alpha Ridge & Bluesea Cracker Tull Newbie Punter Join Date: 25 Mar 2010 Age: 32 Posts: 7 Re: Irish Grand National Heavy going may make this one difficult, narrowed it down to an intial list of 10 which is now down to the following 4 Alpha Ridge Bluesea Cracker Saddlers Storm Aqus a Vic Plenty of money for Alpha, whilst IMHO Saddlers Storm is a quality horse who could be better than most of these. Might just have a small amount of each of the above

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty thanks again for pulling these out ted. I remembered reading the name of the winner last night but accessing pl on my phone right now so will update the table tomorrow when online properly. Great call with the irish national winner lads, superb stuff :clap

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Cheltenham winners aplenty Two of our newbie punters were in the money yesterday with the fine picks on Bluesea Cracker in the Irish National, great stuff guys :clap:clap Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge 2010 Price - Tipster - Selection - Date and track - form comment 54/1 - Mileni4uk - THOUSAND STARS (SP 20/1) 19th March, Cheltenham - held up in mid-division, headway 2 out, soon chased leaders, led last, ridden and stayed on flat, won by 3 lengths 54/1 - Fintron - GAILY NOBLE (SP 20/1) - 3rd February, Lingfield - broke well, tracked leaders, led inside final furlong, won by 1.25 lengths 42.5/1 - Tedthewolf - PIGEON ISLAND -(SP 16/1) - 19th March, Cheltenham - held up in rear, still enough to do 3 out, headway approaching 2 out, kept on under pressure approaching last to lead 150 yards out, ran on, won by 1.25 lengths 40/1 - Stewartd14 - A NEW STORY (SP 25/1) - 16th March, Cheltenham - held up in touch, pecked 19th, headway 3 out, ridden after next, challenged last, led flat, stayed on well, won by 2.5 lengths 37.0 - Punterpete - CHIEF DAN GEORGE (SP 33/1) - 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish, won by a head 35/1 - Ogii55 - PIGEON ISLAND (SP 16/1) - 19th March, Cheltenham - held up in rear, still enough to do 3 out, headway approaching 2 out, kept on under pressure approaching last to lead 150 yards out, ran on, won by 1.25 lengths 33/1 - Ogii55 - PETERS STAR (SP 12/1) - 5th February, Catterick - with leader, led approaching 8th, ridden and under pressure last, stayed on gamely flat, 1 length winner 33/1 - Ogii55 - INOMA JAMES (SP 16/1) - 31st January, Punchestown - , mid-division, headway in 6th 8 out, 2nd next, led before 4 out, ridden clear before 2 out, kept on strongly, eased close home, comfortable seven length winner 33/1 - Jk - LUJIANA - (SP 25/1) 10th January, Southwell - led halfway, ridden 1f out, ran on well and won by 2 lengths 33/1 - Tipster5000 - CHIEF DAN GEORGE- (SP 33/1) 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish, won by a hd 33/1 - Bowles10 - CHIEF DAN GEORGE (bog, SP 33/1) - 16th March, Cheltenham - always prominent, challenged 3 out, led after next, ridden and headed approaching last, rallied to lead again flat, held on near finish , won by a hd 32/1 - Mileni4uk - PETERS STAR (SP 12/1) - 5th February, Catterick - with leader, led approaching 8th, ridden and under pressure last, stayed on gamely flat, 1 length winner 28/1 - Tedthewolf - THE SAWYER (SP 8/1) - 23rd January, Ascot - with leaders, led 7th, made rest, ridden 2 out, kept on flat, just held on 28/1 - Trotter - SANDY TOES (SP 33/1) - 9th February, Southwell - chased leaders, effort over 1f out, hard ridden to lead well inside final furlong, all out, winner by a head 25/1 - Mileni4uk - JACKERS (SP 11/1) - 24th January, Towcester - held up towards rear, headway approaching 7th, led after 2 out, stayed on well and 5 length winner 25/1 - Tedthewolf - GREAT ENDEAVOUR (SP 18/1), 18th March, Cheltenham - in touch, headway 12th, challenged 3 out, led before next, ridden last, held on under pressure flat , won by 1.25 lengths 25/1 - Ogii55 - MONKERHOSTIN (SP 20/1) - 6th February, Sandown -held up in rear, steady headway 17th, chased leaders 4 out, challenged and hit 3 out, ridden before last, stayed on gamely to lead last strides, won by a nose. 25/1 - Dannyfield - LUJIANA (SP 25/1) - 10th January, Southwell - led halfway, ridden 1f out, ran on well and won by 2 lengths 25/1 - Tull - BLUESEA CRACKER (SP 25/1) - 5th April, Fairyhouse - mid-division on inner, progress in to 6th 5 out, 2nd 3 out, led 2 out, wandered about approaching last, stayed on well, won by 4.5 lengths 25/1 - Starburst - BLUESEA CRACKER (SP 25/1) - 5th April, Fairyhouse - mid-division on inner, progress in to 6th 5 out, 2nd 3 out, led 2 out, wandered about approaching last, stayed on well, won by 4.5 lengths

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) merl1n had the Irish National winner too, if he/she could please post up a quick screenshot of the betslip as it was a price taken from betfair. I know the post has been edited after the race, but the mods can see what has been changed and should be able to confirm the price wasnt altered post race?

[BillyHills]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice)

merl1n had the Irish National winner too, if he/she could please post up a quick screenshot of the betslip as it was a price taken from betfair. I know the post has been edited after the race, but the mods can see what has been changed and should be able to confirm the price wasnt altered post race?

The Edit was to insert EW on the third selection Fin, prices were not altered.

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice)

The Edit was to insert EW on the third selection Fin' date=' prices were not altered.[/quote'] Cheers BH. I think I should maybe relax the rule about posting up screenshots for Betfair prices? I suppose the competition is only a bit of fun at the end of the day, and I think we have a pretty trustworthy bunch on here don't we - I don't think people would deliberately deceive for the sake of a £20 bet. If everyone else is happy, I reckon Betfair prices should just be accepted at face value (as long as posted pre-race), unless it is a selection that potentially wins the overall prize? What do you guys think?

[Tull]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) Thanks for the mention, only just viewed this thread. Finding a100/1 winner is very difficult. I've been close on a few occasions but still waiting. Good luck everyone

[Tedthewolf]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice)

Cheers BH. I think I should maybe relax the rule about posting up screenshots for Betfair prices? I suppose the competition is only a bit of fun at the end of the day, and I think we have a pretty trustworthy bunch on here don't we - I don't think people would deliberately deceive for the sake of a £20 bet. If everyone else is happy, I reckon Betfair prices should just be accepted at face value (as long as posted pre-race), unless it is a selection that potentially wins the overall prize? What do you guys think?

Screen shots for prices taken at 100 or over may be the way to go Fin. Sorry Merl1n :$ Great Stuff indeed from the newbies :clap:clap:clap The table has just over 20 tips at 25's or over and thats in just a tad over 3 months....so at the end of this year we should be around 60-80 :loon how kool would that be.

[BillyHills]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) I know its not that serious and nothing to do with me but are selections that are 1 of 4 or 5 in a trends type post included. Theres no individual reason why the horse should be a selection, they are just narrowed down to 20% of the field surely? Some National posts are going to have 5 or 6 against the field with one reason covering them all.

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice)

I know its not that serious and nothing to do with me but are selections that are 1 of 4 or 5 in a trends type post included. Theres no individual reason why the horse should be a selection' date=' they are just narrowed down to 20% of the field surely? Some National posts are going to have 5 or 6 against the field with one reason covering them all.[/quote'] I appreciate your input BH, you've run many a comp on here and are aware of the problems that can crop up. What do you think is the best way of avoiding any problems here? To only accept posts that provide a line or two of reasoning to accompany each horse narrowed down into a final shortlist from the initiall culling by trends?

[BillyHills]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) Hi Fin, for me trends are the same as systems, a certain amount of criteria ends up pointing towards a selection, the difference is with trends you end up with multiple selections. The other difference is they get posted in the main ATR section. Fair enough if from that shortlist the poster selects a couple against the field with reasons why they should be backed and not the others, just thought i'd bring this up before someone lists 6 horses for a race without any specific reasoning other than they are 8yo and carrying 11st etc,,,,,and one pops in at 100/1. Very nice and not to be sniffed at but i'm sure the aim of this comp was not on those lines? Maybe i'm just being fussy, see what the others think, its not like its to my benefit that i asked this, I have about as much chance of posting a 100/1 winner than the Lib/Dems winning the election:lol

[bowles10]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) on the selections & trends issue, it should be a simple message, that each selection should be identified as a bet and stake / price etc I was going to query one of the posters who tipped Bluesea cracker as it just said "these are the 2 i will probably back" rather than actually stating stake or price. Compare with my trends thread where i narrowed down the field to 5, but only tipped 1. therefore, the winner is null & void IMO otherwise, anyone can come on here and post 3 or 4 in 1 race and nab a big price winner. As usual, honesty plays a part and perhaps the one who hits the 100/1 winner will have to send a screenshot to prove a bet. As you know i hit a 100/1 winner in my system but didnt back it or indeed post it until after the event! The above are quite simple rules to follow hopefully, cheers!

[fintron]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) Yes, good points guys, cheers. I'll only accept the selections that have some sort of reasoning to accompany them from now on. If we have any more trends people knocking down the field to a final shortlist, unless some distinction is made between the main 'bets' and those that just fit the critera (as Bowles mentioned) then we'll have to think twice about including them. As you mention BH, the aim was to get proper reasoning for all selections, in the ethos of the site, as simply naming names is no different to the other (inferior) forums.

[StuSimmy]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/f13/philss_99s-flat-season-thread-2010-a-99695/index2.html#post1653355 Has that worked? 25/1 there from phils :nana

[Tedthewolf]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) 2:35 Aintree Sanctuaire has the best chance but this is different ground to Cheltenham. Still make him marginal value. Saver at 2/1. As often the case, punters tend to leave well alone a horse who "should not win on the book", Notus De La Tour has been under estimated in the betting because he has something to find on Sanctuaire on Fred Winter form. Though does get a handy weight difference. He was up there from the start that day and may be a little better than distances indicate. Is improving himself and at 17/2 is worth a good (main) bet. Orspippus is another at bigger odds than he should be because he finished behind Sanctuaire. Improved a lot there and if (big IF) could surprise at big odds 69/1. I make him a 3.25% 28/1 shot. Ma Voici has been impressive in his wins so far, all on a soft surface. Beautiful looking horse who should be able to improve. 15/2 is too big. Super Kenny could be anything but has been priced up as he is something. Very little experience. Nafaath is another who could be anything, impressive on firmer ground than this last time. Backed Olofi at Chelters, nice type, did not settle there, but not enough promise for this anyway. Drussell has won two races easily at a lesser level, but needs to improve a lot. Barizan got a long lead and possibly flattered in the Triumph. Trainer was in great form then, not so good now and had a hard race (could bounce). My 100% book: Sanctuaire 15/8, Notus De La Tour 6/1, Ma Voici 13/2, Super Kenny 13/2, Barizan 15/2, Nafaath 14/1, Orsippus 28/1, Olofi 40/1, Drussell 100/1, Double Handful 400/1, Al Qeddaaf 400/1 . Last edited by Gingertipster; Today at 11:56. Ginge and Philss :clap:clap

[bowles10]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) am i missing something in ginge's post? not being picky but without stating its a back, i cant see how it can be included

[Tedthewolf]

Re: The Punters Lounge 100/1 Challenge - Irish National Nailed (twice) On the Aintree thread the ones in bold were the ones he was backing but the bold type didn't come across here.