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I got a Silver Tankard for my 18th birthday in 1970 ........ it was the common practise then ....... you're a man now, put your tankard behind the bar at your local !

I worked for Whitbreads in the late 70s, in the canteen you were allowed 2 free pints a day, even the lorry drivers ! The brewery was in the centre of Sheffield, you could smell it from miles away

Rainbow Fire 2 45 Hay/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1 - 3rd An Brandan Frasa 1 50 San/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1 Rapper 3 35 San/ 1/40th of a pt ew 40/1 Will Carver 5 20 San/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1 P/L + 177 Pts

Good Morning. A very mixed bag on the punting front. "Level" on the week (enjoyed "What A Johnny"). I've been very busy with work so I post when I can. Today's hugely speculative bet is in the 5.20 at Sandown Park. "Sa Majeste". Good Luck to you all! Justin. 🏇.

Sandown 1.50 A bumper field to start the day’s ITV action with a maximum twenty runners going to post for this class 2 2M Novices’ Championship Handicap Hurdle. Many are making their handicap debuts so have the potential to be better than their mark although the one I like has already had a run in a handicap. Sam Thomas’s Steel Ally followed up his cosy Wincanton win by pushing subsequent Cheltenham winner Doyen Quest to a neck at Newbury last month with the third, some 9 3/4L back in third, Imperial Saint also winning since to further boost the form. He has been shunted up 7lb for that fine effort and can run well each way. Also on the shortlist is John O’Shea’s Maasai Mara who looks well treated in his first handicap in first time cheek pieces. I can see him running well also. STEEL ALLY 1 point each way @ 10/1 bet365 1/5th 12345 MAASAI MARA 1 point each way @ 14/1 bet365 1/5t 12345 Leicester 2.05 The feature race of the day at Leicester, and covered by the team at ITV is the 1M class 2 King Richard III Cup Handicap. Last year’s ready 4 1/4L winner Al Mubhir has his ground again and although 7lb higher than that win is most definitely the one they all have to beat. Trained by the in form William Haggas that was his only victory last season and he has been gelded since last seen. He did however come into last year’s race having had a run when 5th in the Lincoln and although the most likely winner is no value at his current odds of around 9/4. I’ll take him on with Tony Coyle & Keane Wood’s mud loving Thunder Roar. A dual winner in the mud last Autumn at York and Doncaster he went down by just half a length to the re-opposing Look Back Smiling (also declared at Haydock) and is a pound better off today. He looks sure to be thereabouts today under Cam Hardie and can be backed each way. THUNDER ROAR 1 point each way @ 5/1 bet365 1/5th 123 Sandown 2.25 Just the seven face the starter for this Grade 2 bet365 Oaksey Chase run over 2M 6 1/2F. The best in at the weights by a pound is Patrick Neville’s The Real Whacker who drops in trip and, according to his trainer in the trade press earlier in the week, will relish the drier ground. He looks the most likely winner to me. Paul Nicholl’s Hitman sports blinkers for the first time and at the weights is the likely danger with the Willie Mullins representative Easy Game having to carry a 6lb penalty and also sporting first time cheek pieces. Not a very inspiring race with all bar Fantastic Lady sporting some form of headgear but the pick is The Real Whacker to small stakes. THE REAL WHACKER 1 point win @ 5/2 bet365 Haydock 2.45 A ten runner 7F class 2 handicap which is covered by the ITV cameras today and it really does have an open look about it. With the ground riding very soft all bar last year’s winner Rainbow Fire should be in their element. Katie Scott’s Gweedore was runner up last season and has won first time out for the last two seasons and has to be on the shortlist with the selection being the Richard Hannon trained Tacarib Bay. His last five starts have all been on the all-weather which include a 6F listed win last November at Newcastle but he’s equally as effective on the turf as he proved when running some good races in defeat in big handicaps last summer. He obviously likes this track as he’s won two of his three visits here and is currently on the same handicap mark as when scoring over course and distance in July 2022. He looks good each way value for a trainer who’s been amongst the winners recently especially if able to find a firm paying four places. TACARIB BAY 1 point each way @ 9/1 Betfred 1/5 1234 Sandown 3.00 The 1m 7 1/2f Grade 1 Celebration Chase looks a match between Willie Mullins’s Cheltenham flop El Fabiolo and Nicky Henderson’s impressive Aintree winner Jonbon with officially just 5lb between the pair in favour of the former. That pair are rated 6lb (Edwardstone next best) and more better than the other five and in what is a race to saviour can be won by Nicky Henderson’s Jonbon who is unbeaten at the Esher track in three starts here including in this race last year. He looked good over further last time but also has speed and may actually cope with the drying ground better than the Mullins runner who has raced exclusively on soft ground and of course has the poor run at Cheltenham to put behind him. It’s hard to split the pair so at the prices the pick will be J P McManus’s Jonbon who will be ridden by Nico De Boinville. JONBON 1 point win @ 9/4 bet365 Sandown 3.35 A bumper maximum field of twenty line up for the 3M 4 1/2F bet365 Gold Cup (hands up if you’re old enough to remember the race as the Whitbread Gold Cup). Current favourite is last year’s winner Kitty’s Light who has to be part of the staking plan having run so well when leading over the last in the Grand National a fortnight ago. The quick turnaround doesn’t worry me as he won the Scottish Grand National and this contest with a week between them last year. He’s 5lb higher than last season but the ground appears to have come right for him and Christian Williams’s eight year old looks sure to be thereabouts. An outsider who I feel is overpriced is Anthony Honeyball’s Sam Brown who is arguably the best handicapped horse in the field as he goes up 4lb in future handicaps for his highly creditable run at Aintree a fortnight ago when runner up to Cruz Control under today’s pilot Freddie Gingell. He’s the oldest horse in the race by two years plus and maybe that’s why he’s been neglected in the betting but he had one of today’s rivals in Kinondo Kwetu just under 7L behind that day and on the same terms is a bigger price. Many others have chances but it’s Kitty’s Light and Sam Brown for me. KITTY’S LIGHT 1 point each way @ 5/1 William Hill 1/5th 12345 SAM BROWN 1/2 point each way @ 33/1 bet365 1/5th 12345

As im working ...just having a n early look at the weekend racing .....big race of weekend is bet365 gold cup Kinindo kwetu. 9.0 16/1 Amirite. 8.9. 10/1 Sam brown 8.4 33/1 Le Milos. 8.3 8/1 Does he know. 8.0 28/1 A very difficult race to rate tbh as a lot of these have only ran on soft since Xmas and now the ground has changed dramatically it's difficult to know where they will be on the tree ........so I've changed tack slightly... with this race .....I've rated as normal .....then historically it's been very difficult for horses over say 11-5 in this race so that cuts out the bottom 3 .....leaving the top 2 again so that's good enough for me .....I'm not saying the others can't win .....in fact I think Sam brown and does he know look overpriced on select form and I could see them placing at big prices but for me I'm looking for value and the top 2 tick the boxes 5pt Ew top 2

Does the business ....beating the short price fav ....making a nice profit on the day

I know rip off normally get beers larger wine from supermarkets lots cheaper now 🍺🍷

I had to pay over £8 for a pint of Stella Lager and a small bottle of still water in a Wetherspoons up in London recently. My favourite beer was Fullers ESB when it was managed properly by bar staff. No one seems to manage beer properly any more in pubs. It puts me off buying the stuff

Yesterday Charyn won (4th top rated in a row) at 3.35 + Arabian Crown at 5/6 + 4 losers Current loss 0.74 points Todays top rated is BROKEN SPEAR. It achieved its top rating over todays course and dstance and on todays going. I have it 11 lengths clear of the favourite so it looks excellent value at 4/1. BSP. Lots of action today, these are top rated overall and on the going Leicester 2.05 LOOK BACK SMILING 8/1 - BSP Leicester 3.12 RECON MISSION 5/1 - BSP Leicester 4.55 EY UP ITS JAZZ 14/5 - LADBROKES Haydock 2.10 COLD STARE 11/2 - BET MGM EW (4 places) Haydock 3.20 THE SMILING WOLF 11/4 - BSP Haydock 3.53 SHEMOZZLE 8/15 - BSP Haydock 5.00 AMANCIO 5/2 - BSP Doncaster 5.40 ISLE OF DREAMS 13/1 - LADBROKES Ripon 6.20 LEGENDARY DAY 16/1 - LADBROKES

Was 33p a pint in grays about 77-78

5.15 Ripon-Helter Skelter Think owners "The Horse Watchers" have a nicely handicapped horse on their hands 11-4 with Bet 365

Only other race I could find a potential bet was 7.00 wolv .......computer was saying if the full 8 run and I could get 11/2 or better then ...SO OBSESSED is a value bet Ew .....bet 365 have just priced up first at 6/1 ....so I'm happy to take that and play ....5pt Ew 🙂

Apologies, No gamesmanship, honestly. I had a glasgow Southampton drive today, for the start of my summer holidays, and literally just arrived. Good luck to league 2 for a superb profit this season. Marek 76 you deserve to be champion in this league, with your staking plans,unless someone else has super finale Thanks to avongirl for all the admin,such a time consuming task Well done take a bow

Didn`t back Masai Mara in the 1350 , but yet again the starter wouldn`t let them go for no apparent reason , he then lets them go when the horse in question wasn`t even pointing the right way . Disgraceful , and anyone who bet the horse will lose their money , unless they are lucky enough to have bet with a firm who will declare it an non runner .

A formula might be tricky given the variables (difference in price, how many extra places you're getting, any difference in the place odds fraction, how many runners there are etc.). My gut feel is that only losing a point on the price for 2 extra places isn't a bad deal (though you don't mention what the fractions were for the place elements). I remember reading an article on the subject with regard to extra places in golf outright markets and it concluded that the value was usually in taking the extra places even if the drop in price seemed steep. Admittedly we're talking bigger prices and fields there but I suppose the point is that the instinctive reaction to reject a bet because the price drop is too big might not be correct. Clarkey can probably give a more informed view based on his data stockpile!

B/Fwd - 70.65 L15's; RC P/L -96.55 (incl L15's) Had 3 x 0.10 L15's on the Daily = 4.50 pts staked for 12 selections 3.35 San Amirite 1 pt ew at 5/1 7 places* = 6.50 stakes * Has anyone got a formula for working out where the value lies in taking Sky bets extra places e.g. I took 5/1 ew for 7 places whereas I could have taken 6/1 with Bet365 for 5 places. Hopefully, Michael @MCLARKE and/or some other mathematical mastermind can come up with an easy-to-use method for me

Did it have a glass bottom so you could make sure no-one slipped the King's shilling into your drink?

Last chance saloon wheel fell off on lucky 15 thread

I was a Tankard drinker in the early 70's. If I remember correctly it was 17p a pint.

I remember drinking Whitbread Trophy bitter, "the pint that thinks its a quart"

Final fixtures of the Step 3 season tomorrow. Basford v Bamber Bridge Bamber lost 7 on the bounce before beating Whitby and Macclesfield in the past 7 days. Basford are now safe after the draw at Radcliffe last week and I reckon it might be a case of job done so could be hard to get them up for a game like this. FCUM v Lancaster After a poor run of form Lancaster are actually ending the season well winning 4 games on the bounce. The home side have had a poor season and have lost 4 of their last 5 games. Gainsborough v Radcliffe Don't think Radcliffe will care if they win or not and they only got a point against Basford last week. Gainsborough have been in fantastic form since February only losing 2 games and chances are they will fancy beating the champions. Warrington Rylands v Ilkeston The home side have lost their last 2 games and whilst they could get 3rd they are safely in the play-offs, but they have had issues with their manager having to be let go and that seems to have disrupted them. Ilkeston have won 5 on the bounce and are unbeaten in 8 so look a very big price here. Whitby v Macclesfield Macclesfield rested a lot of players on Tuesday and lost to Bamber Bridge who also happened to beat Whitby on Saturday. Given they can only finish 2nd I expect they will continue to rest the first team ahead of the play-offs so happy to back Whitby to beat them. Coalville v AFC Telford Coalville have had a very disappointing season given they only lost out on the title by a goal to Tamworth a year ago and they went and won the title again this season. This game could well give them a winning end to the season though because Telford can only finish 2nd now Mickleover have had their 12 point deduction confirmed. I suspect they will rest players so that gives the advantage to the home side. Gosport v Chesham Opposed Chesham last week which worked and with Gosport still able to finish in the top 3 there is more on the line for them here. Granted Gosport aren't ending the season in the best of form, but given they are outsiders here I think they are too big. Walton & Hersham v Poole Opposing Poole was very profitable for a while, but they have perked up in their last 4 games and they have won 3 of them. Walton have only lost once in 8, but they struggled in their last 2 games and it was poor last week to give up a 2 goal lead against Plymouth. Poole look a big price to win here. Prices from Friday 5pm Bamber Bridge 1pt @ 9/5 with Bet365 (take up to 6/4) Lancaster 1pt @ 9/5 with Skybet, Betfred and Bet365 (take up to 6/5) Gainsborough 1pt @ 19/10 with Bet365 and William Hill (take up to 6/4) Ilkeston 1pt @ 11/4 with Betfred (take up to 2/1) Whitby 1pt @ 21/10 with Bet365, Skybet and Betfred (take up to 7/4) Coalville 2pts @ 21/10 with Skybet and Betfred (take up to 6/4) Gosport 1pt @ 9/5 with Skybet and Betfred (take up to 6/4) Poole 1pt @ 11/5 with Skybet and Betfred (365 are 23/10 and take up to 6/4)

Great minds think alike my friend.

Sorry, somehow i didn't see this and just repeated what you said i think.

A win. That is all.

Ew 5th ....was hoping for a better run but cest la vie

If you want to "equalise" it, the simpler solution would be to split your bet 50/50 and bet both. Or you could just man up and go for the biggie and accept the loss when there is one.

bangers and cash 3.35 ew.

Pop on live chat, I'm sure they'd share it! Probably sometimes one, sometimes the other. Whether the price is worth taking in the first place depends on your assessment of the horse in question. The obvious thing being, if you're going to back it each way then take the best place option. When the price differs then you have to make a call. I'd tend to say pick out your horses first then see what the best price/terms you can get are. Don't let the number of places "tail" wag the dog. I suppose one measure is to calculate the % of runners you're getting in the place terms, e.g. 5 in a 16 runner race is 31.25% of the field while 7 is 43.75%. That gives you a comparative measure. Then work out the % reduced price you'd have to take. I'm sure that might be the basis for some sort of comparison formula but I'm just spitballing; I'll leave @MCLARKE to finish the job off!

It is indeed very complicated and there is no easy answer. I did a fairly small analysis when I was allowed to bet with Sky and the conclusion I came to was that you should take the extra places but select the bet at SP because they do not offer BOG in these races.

1.10 navan - distillate 28/1 ew

Good feeling about this one.

Do you have any idea whether you’d be up or down from backing singles? For me that’s the difference between this being a bit of fun with a genuine expectation of a long term profit or it only being profitable if you get lucky. I must admit that I’m sceptical of the correct score market being one that’s readily beatable. It’s also relevant to the singles/patent consideration. If you’re losing money on them then don’t waste stake on them, just stick to the approach of hoping for a big win. And if you do think singles are worthwhile then take the effort to get the best possible price on them rather than settle for whatever a single firm is offering. I’d say you’d do better by just backing them all on the exchange. It’s a bit of extra effort but that’s usually the key to turning a small loss into a modest profit.

I've enjoyed researching these type of bets and I'm glad I came on here to track it. I knew beforehand how difficult these bets are and as we come to the end of the season nothing has changed. I will set a limit to how far I go, maybe -£100 bank which isn't a lot as it will take me into next season. I've also considered trying 30p patents (£2.10) as this will cover the single. At the beginning I had lower odds but as the time has passed my most predicted scores have been 2-1. This typically gives odds greater than 7.0 which means hitting singles would return a tiny amount of profit. We'll see!

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That’s it good will it lasted -£4 after 111 days

Oh yes!

1.40 Cork: Sharinay @ 12/1 Bet365

I was that Confident!!🤑

One goal short from the glory, but that's not the most important thing. I've had so much fun, and that's what counts! Thank you @avongirl for the splendid admin job! and well done to the winner of Div 2!

I am going to chuck in the 2:50 here. We know all about most of these the "unknown" is Zarir dropping back in trip beautifully bred and can be anything this year. 25/1 PP is a very big price and so is well worth the unknown factor.

Aston Villa v Chelsea (1) @ 2.2 Fulham v Palace (2) @ 3.3 Bournemouth v Brighton (1) @ 2.2 £23.42 Treble please. Thanks for all the time you give to run this great competition Avongirl. 👏👏👏

Murphy (Newcastle) hat trick at 750/1 Obviously firmly ticks the "probably not going to happen" box that is par for the course when betting at 3 figure odds but I'm on him anytime at 9/2 which gets a rare rating of >100 and I think 750/1 is out of line even if 9/2 was about right.

AW selection Wolverhampton 6.30 SERENITY DREAM

Lucky15Ref: 373591529 4 Selections 4. Fiercely Proud - 8/1Winner - 13:50 Sandown 1. Cold Stare - 6/1Winner - 14:10 Haydock 5. Langer Dan - 4/1Winner - 16:10 Sandown 17. Mubhijah - 9/2Winner - 18:40 Doncaster Stake£ 1.50 Potential Returns£ 311.90

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( bet365 paid 3 places 2.25 = + 42 ) +136 405 r Assertively 5/2 428 h Offer And Receive 11/4 540 r Looking For Lynda 9/2 €5 trixie

Won, profit £ 35.86 Monthly profit £ 160.82

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