Racing Chat - Friday August 4th

[The Brigadier]

Day four of not so Glorious Goodwood with conditions, as predicted, taking a turn for the worse on Wednesday and the ground will still be quite testing for racing this afternoon despite the forecast of a dry sunny day. Once again ITV are showing the first four on the card with the feature race being the Group 2 King George Qatar Stakes run over 5F with the fastest mare around Highfield Princess in attendance at 15:35.

Here are my thoughts and selections for that quartet to help beat the bookies.

 

Goodwood 13:50

A big field of eighteen line up for this class 2 Coral Goodwood Handicap run over 2m 4F 97 yards which will started by a flag rather than stalls.

The 2021 winner Calling The Wind arrives in excellent shape having won the Northumberland Plate at Newcastle when last seen and can be involved in the finish although 9-12 in the mud will be quite a steadier.

Ian Williams saddles a trio with the best of his three possibly Law Of The Sea who ran a good fourth (beaten 1 3/4L) in the Chester Cup on his only run on soft ground. He has each way chances along with the likes of the the light weight Robert Johnson who’s won five of his last 6 starts all be it in lower grade.

Syd Hosie is better known as a jumps trainer but he seems to have improved Temporize who improved for a step up in trip at Ascot a week ago when runner up to Blazeon Five and is officially 2lb well in today. He does have to prove he stays this longer trip however.

The Irish challenger Tronador has to be given plenty of respect as well, trained by Gordon Elliot he gets weight from most and comes here on the back of a handicap hurdle victory at Bellewstown.

This is a minefield of a race and stakes should be kept to a minimum with many holding claims.

I’ll take my chances with Phil Kirby’s Robert Johnson, who’s on a real run at present and handles soft ground well. This extreme trip may bring about further improvement so to small stakes is worth backing each way alongside the top weight Calling The Wind who has won this race before and arrives in fine form.

 

CALLING THE WIND 1/2 point each way @ 6/1 William Hill 1/5th 12345

ROBERT JOHNSON 1/2 point each way @ 10/1 William Hill 1/5th 12345

 

Goodwood 14:25

Seven have declared for this intriguing 1M Bonhams Thoroughbred Stakes, a Group 3 contest won by the great Baaeed in 2021. The race is for three year olds only and features a warm favourite in the Sir Michael Stoute trained Nostrum.

He could quite easily outclass these having impressed on his re-appearance when a very impressive winner of a listed race at Newmarket in July. A Group 3 winner at two as well as finishing third to Chaldean in the Group 1 Dewhurst he has a bright future but has only run on good fast ground and will have never seen conditions like these today. It would be no shock were he to be pulled out and as a warm favourite offers no value.

The two Irish challengers Bold Discovery and Montesilvano may be inconvenienced by the easy ground and are easily ruled out.

Docklands will handle the ground well (6 1/2L Ascot handicap winner on soft) and this may well be his last run on these shores as he’s been sold to race in Australia. He’s smart and could be the value bet here.

The ground wont be a problem for soft ground Horris Hill winner Knight whilst the Charlie Hills trained Galeron takes a drop in class having contested Group 1 contests on his last three starts.

The value play here is Harry Eustace’s Docklands who is ridden by his partner Hayley Turner.

 

DOCKLANDS 1 point win @ 9/2 bet365

 

Goodwood 15:00

The day’s big handicap is the 1M Coral Golden Mile Handicap for three year old’s and upwards and we have a maximum field of twenty.

This is one of the big draw races of the season with the last ten year’s winners draw positions reading 2, 5, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 1, 9, 5, 13. That said on Wednesday in the 7F Oak Tree Stakes the field swung over to the stands side and that seemed to be the place to be all afternoon.

There is a near 90 degree right hand turn after a furlong which favours the low drawn numbers and as along as that still holds with all the rain this week I’ve narrowed the field down to two.

Favourite Lattam, trained by William Haggas is (hopefully) well berthed in stall 3 and loves the mud having won the Irish Lincoln at The Curragh in March on heavy ground. With Tom Marquand on top he has plenty in his favour and has to be the one they all have to beat (as long as the usual draw bias plays out).

The other one I like is the Richard Hannon trained Tacarib Bay, ridden by Sean Levey who ran a blinder at Ascot last Saturday when leading home his far side group but only finishing 7th overall. He’s back on a winning mark, loves the mud and is drawn in stall 4.

Last year’s first four home are all back to have another go with the David O’Meara pair Orbaan and Blue For You renewing rivalry with third Revich and fourth Ouzo.

The Simon and Ed Crisford trained Awaal has good form in the mud and in first time cheek pieces can be competitive along with Charlie Hills’s Racingbreaks Ryder who probably didn’t enjoy the fast ground at Royal Ascot last time.

A tricky race with some doubt as to wether the normal draw bias holds up. If it does I’ll dutch Lattam and Tacarib Bay.

 

LATTAM 1 point win 4/1 bet365

TACARIB BAY 1 point each way @ 10/1 bet365 1/5th 12345

 

Goodwood 15:35

Eleven speedsters go to post for this Group 2 5F King George Qatar Stakes. The warm favourite is the likely winner John Quinn trained Highfield Princess who is a top sprinter having won three group 1 sprints last season on fast and soft ground. She ran well at Royal Ascot in the two Group one sprints finishing runner up to Bradsells in the Kings Stand and third in the Queen Elizabeth II Jubilee Stakes to Khaadem. She wont mind the prevailing ground unlike many of her rivals and it will be a shock were she not to take this.

The two Charlie Hills runners Equality ridden by Ryan Moore and Equilateral ridden by Frankie Dettori may be inconvenienced by soft ground and can be ruled out whilst last year’s runners up Raasel is not in much form currently.

Andrew Balding’s Nymphadora won’t mind wet conditions and might be the one to chase the favourite home.

 

HIGHFIELD PRINCESS 2 points win @ 10/11

 

All odds were available at time of writing

 

[MCLARKE]

The big handicap at Goodwood on Friday is the Golden Mile. This heritage handicap is open to 3-year-olds or older and, as the name suggests, is run over exactly 1 mile. The off time is 15.00.

22 go to post and with some bookmakers offering 6 places it makes it a good betting proposition.

 

I have looked at the statistics over the last 9 years and these are my key conclusions.

If you back a horse that is not drawn low you might as well tear your betting ticket up! There have been 103 horses drawn in stalls 8 or higher and they have all lost.

Shorter priced horses have a good record. Those with odds of 6/1 or less have 4 wins from 14 runs with a profit of 14 points.

Horses that did not finish in the 1^st 11 last time have a record of 0 wins from 42 runs.

 

This leaves just 1 horse.

LATTAM 4/1

I suggest backing this each way with bookmakers offering 6 places.

[black rabbit]

Montesilvano                              2 25 Gwd/                                 1/40th of a pt ew                50/1

Tacarib Bay                                 3 00 Gwd/                                  1/40th of a pt ew               10/1

Johan                                            3 00 Gwd/                                  1/40th of a pt ew               36/1          -    WON

Raasel                                          3 35 Gwd/                                   1/40th of a pt ew              28/1           -    3rd

Belgoprince     { N/R }                               

Nibiru                                          5 00 Gall/                                    1/40th of a pt ew               28/1

Jackie Brown   { N/R  }                            

Fire Attack                                  6 00 Gall/                                    1/40th of a pt ew                33/1

Delicate Girl                               7 10 Gall/                                    1/40th of a pt ew               10/1             -  2nd

Vultan                                         6 35 Gall/                                     1/40th of a pt ew               66/1

Night Arc                                    8 00 New/                                    1/40th of a pt ew               14/1

Dapper Valley                            4 45 Gwd/                                    1/40th of a pt ew               14/1           -   3rd

 

 

P/L  +166.80 pts

 

Edited August 4, 2023 by black rabbit
selections

[Tedthewolf]

1.5pts e/w 3.00 GW  - RHOSCOLYN 18/1 6places not bog

1.5pts e/w 3.00 GW  - JOHAN 28/1 6places not bog

1.5pts e/w 1.50 GW - THE GRAND VISIR 5 places not bog (oops 18//1)

9pts invested

Edited August 4, 2023 by Tedthewolf

[kensland]

Double. 

5.Goodw.  Balancing Pay       11/2     1st 

7.05. Bath.  Emerald                4/1        2nd 

singles & double 

stk 6.00      rtn 52.00

Good luck all 

Edited August 4, 2023 by kensland

[Villa Chris]

Bangor 3.20  Current odds 

Finest View 119 14/1

Well Educated 117 20/1

Inca Prince 116 15/2

Onward Route 116 12/1

Let Me Be 116 20/1 

Bangor 3.55 Current odds 

Honey I’m Good 141 5/2

Saint Arvans 140 11/1

Mr Mafia 136 11/1

Irish Prophecy 136 20/1

Empire De Maulde 136 14/1

According to RP forecast both top rated will drift so I’ll wait and see if they do. 5 points win both .

[Villa Chris]

Galway 5.00 

Nucky Johnson 149 20/1

Shecouldbeanyhing 145 6/1

Sundial 145 9/1

Weddell Sea 144 14/1

Lucid Dreams 143 14/1

5 points win Nucky 

 

Will do the blazers chase tomorrow once back from work , I want my bed now. 

Edited August 3, 2023 by Villa Chris

[yossa6133]

Mini Magna 6:30 Bath (10/3 PP, Betfair, Betvictor). Put in the tracker after a very close 2nd last time out. This doesn't seem any better so no reason he can't go close again.

Bet365 have boosted to 4/1 so I cashed out and reloaded.

 

He's on the right side of the head bob this time to pay for the takeaway 😋

Edited August 4, 2023 by yossa6133

[Villa Chris]

Galway 6.00

Quantum Realm 146 6/1

Pakens Rock 145 10/1

Your Darling 144 7/1

Bodhisattva 144 33/1

5 points win Quantum 

[Moneymaker 777]

15:00 Goodwood - Lattam (4/1)

15:55 Bangor on Dee - Honey I'm Good (5/2)

16:45 Goodwood - Starlust (9/2)

18:55 Newmarket - Shazam (5/2)

 

6 x 1 Unit Win Doubles

4 x 1 Unit E/W Trebles

2 x E/W Accumulator

Edited August 4, 2023 by Moneymaker 777

[richard-westwood]

300 good gold mile 

Awwaal   8.8 9/1 93 94 

Johan   8.6 36.0  70 70 89 

Blue for you   8.5 11/1  94 83 97 

Tough race and ground makes it more complicated .....Rhoscolyn  did me a favour the other day but I'm hoping this is too quick for him ...I'll die if he wins,again !! ...... this is only race I like today so let's go for it ...10pt wins top 3 and hope johan bursts back to form    cmon me beauty !!😜

[Sporting Sam]

Bangor 3:55
Saying a horse is unbeaten round here in completed starts is a little misleading.
But that applies to Darranova.
Two comprehensive wins here, interspersed with a fall at the last when in a commanding position under the champion jockey.
Has every chance here on this going.
The excellent steel wave has had his recent form franked by a winner yesterday and both course and distance winners stand a chance here. The physics of this race revolve around the penalty carried by the likely favourite Honey I’m good who has already won last time out again under a penalty.
He is asked to do it again here and it’s likely that those weight closest to him can draw the energy benefits if he cannot go through this time.
Steel wave & Darranova
Both each way

Glorious Galway 6:00

Goodbye Sam 

win

Fire Attack

each way

Good bye Sam has snuck in here off a featherweight and yet it is the same  weight as the three unlucky reserves. So straight away the alarms start ringing there. Off 400+ days so if nothing has been amiss then he’s very much been prepared with this in mind. On the traverse there has to be a crossover from the three non runners and the bottom weight if he cannot go on with an effort, to the Gigginstown top weight fire attack.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Sporting Sam

[Brahmin]

Good luck to all with todays racing 🐎......hope todays forecast first bit is correct like yesterdays 🤞 or we going to be in Sussex Lounge Bar for the aft.....  ''Sunny spells breaking through in places in the afternoon, but showers will become more frequent, and thundery in places'' .......put our days selections on here when at course with drink in hand 🥂 plate of food & after the list of NRs grown ! 😱

we here now at noon and settled in Gordon Enclosure, 1st drink in hand & small plate food planning our day, looking like NRs still same 👍.....soooo I'M getting encouraged to enter the L'Ormarins best dressed comp this aft to win trip to South Africa 😎 .....then have our complimentary Strawberries / cream 3.45pm.....in between seeing the beautiful racehorses in the parade ring & then winning some cash from book makers to 💷 🤞

(we can see Blonde lady among the TV people, looks like Leona Meyer so Meg not presenting looks like ) 

 

R Moore 2 wins @ 9/4.......Calling The Wind (1:50) Lattam (3:00) & Maso Bastie (5:20) all Top 5 place @ 9/2 

1.50   Tronador  7/1 EW   3rd     &       Emiyn    18/1 EW          &       Land of Winter     25/1 EW             5 places    

3.00   Dutch Decoy  10/1 EW   3rd   11/1   &  The Gatekeeper  11/1 EW   2nd   14/1   &   Wizard of Eye  35/1 EW   6th   & Racingbreaks Ryder 10/1 EW  6  places

3.35  Highfield Princess  8/11     WON ......( Epictetus winnings gone on this )    😎 💷

Edited August 4, 2023 by Brahmin

[Tedthewolf]

1 minute ago, Brahmin said:

Good luck to all with todays racing 🐎......hope todays forecast first bit is correct like yesterdays 🤞 or we going to be in Sussex Lounge Bar for the aft.....  ''Sunny spells breaking through in places in the afternoon, but showers will become more frequent, and thundery in places'' .......put our days selections on here when at course with drink in hand 🥂 plate of food & after the list of NRs grown ! 😱

 

Enjoy

[The Brigadier]

21 hours ago, MCLARKE said:

If you back a horse that is not drawn low you might as well tear your betting ticket up!

Here, here !!!!!

[The Brigadier]

44 minutes ago, Brahmin said:

Good luck to all with todays racing 🐎......hope todays forecast first bit is correct like yesterdays 🤞 or we going to be in Sussex Lounge Bar for the aft.....  ''Sunny spells breaking through in places in the afternoon, but showers will become more frequent, and thundery in places'' .......put our days selections on here when at course with drink in hand 🥂 plate of food & after the list of NRs grown ! 😱

 

Have a great day @Brahmin 🍻

[The Equaliser]

Funny bet for me today .  A combination of @The Brigadier and @richard-westwood.  Richard's post came after the Brigadiers so they are more like saver bets

Lattam 5 pts win at 6.24, Tacarib 2 pt win at 8.7, Blue For You 1.50 w at 9.4, Awaal 1.50 w at 10.5 and Johan 1 pt w at 42 (um at 30.0 but as its an outsider I expect it to get matched during the day) = 11 points staked.

Out until after lunch time so don't know when I can have another look

Good luck to all

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Had 3.50 points the Gdwd Comp

Johan still not matched at  42.  I will let it cancel at inplay.  can't win from stall 18 anyway

poss 14.50 staked

 

Edited August 4, 2023 by The Equaliser

[Le Doyen]

Good 1.50  Aggagio  12/1

                    Mostly Sunny    16/1

                                                              Both 5 Plcs

[kensland]

Bangor.

Twiston-Davis double. 

1.40. Fine By Me       5/2

3.55. Topofthecotswold       9/1

singles & double 

stk 6.00     rtn 97.00

Good luck all 

[Sporting Sam]

Goodwood 

1:50

Calling the wind

win

temporize

Aggagio

both each way

[Brahmin]

a lady jockey still in parade ring 1.45 😱

[Sporting Sam]

2:25

goodwood

Nostrum to win by 1+ lengths

Bold discoveries 

each way

[Villa Chris]

16 hours ago, Villa Chris said:

Bangor 3.20  Current odds 

Finest View 119 14/1

Well Educated 117 20/1

Inca Prince 116 15/2

Onward Route 116 12/1

Let Me Be 116 20/1 

Bangor 3.55 Current odds 

Honey I’m Good 141 5/2

Saint Arvans 140 11/1

Mr Mafia 136 11/1

Irish Prophecy 136 20/1

Empire De Maulde 136 14/1

According to RP forecast both top rated will drift so I’ll wait and see if they do. 5 points win both .

Took 18/1 for finest view now at 22s and 11/4 for Honey I’m good 

Also want to make a point of mentioning Irish Prophecy who I flagged up on here for his last run over fences . Ran well after a break running very prominent and was stretched by the 3.2 miles running out of steam around the 3m mark and maybe lack of fitness. He’s been dropped 7Ibs for that and also has a run over hurdles under his belt . I think he could be ready to strike very soon and at a big price, maybe today will be his day back at his preferred 3 miles . Also just noticed he has a 5Ibs claimer on board today , so he’s very well in here imo . 

Edited August 4, 2023 by Villa Chris

[Brahmin]

1.50 Tronador

2.25 Epictetus    💷 👍  well what a great start to our day here 🥂  

3.00 Dutch Decoy

3.35 Equality

4.10 Mimikyu

4.45 Loaded Gun

5.20 Maso Bastie

[Sporting Sam]

Goodwood 15:00
 

There are no winners of this race outside of stall five in memory 

Lattam

win

Is the lowest weighted, lowest drawn horse in the contest. Also flanked at the weights by two non runners. The field is packed with penalty carrying last time out winners including Rhoscolyn and blue point. Both look very well in here and are o’mera runners.

 

 

Blue point

Rosscholyn

both each way 

added

the gatekeeper 

win

 

 

Edited August 4, 2023 by Sporting Sam

[fd1972uk]

Sonny Liston ew

[black rabbit]

19 hours ago, Tedthewolf said:

1.5pts e/w 3.00 GW  - RHOSCOLYN 18/1 6places not bog

1.5pts e/w 3.00 GW  - JOHAN 28/1 6places not bog

1.5pts e/w 1.50 GW - THE GRAND VISIR 5 places not bog (oops 18//1)

9pts invested

get in there ted 😀

[Brahmin]

😱 think we got 2 or 3 there places !.............yes looking at account paid 3 out 👍

 

Edited August 4, 2023 by Brahmin

[MCLARKE]

5 hours ago, The Brigadier said:

On 8/3/2023 at 11:49 AM, MCLARKE said:

If you back a horse that is not drawn low you might as well tear your betting ticket up!

Here, here !!!!!

Time to look for that ticket !

[richard-westwood]

7 hours ago, richard-westwood said:

300 good gold mile 

Awwaal   8.8 9/1 93 94 

Johan   8.6 36.0  70 70 89 

Blue for you   8.5 11/1  94 83 97 

Tough race and ground makes it more complicated .....Rhoscolyn  did me a favour the other day but I'm hoping this is too quick for him ...I'll die if he wins,again !! ...... this is only race I like today so let's go for it ...10pt wins top 3 and hope johan bursts back to form    cmon me beauty !!😜

Oh wow .....I wished and it came true !!.....well done all those who backed him above too .....I'm amazed ...thought he had no chance from draw and 36.0!!... that's +330.00 ....unicorn win...I'm blown away