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I'll start off by saying this may well be of no interest to anyone other than me and I'm not sure if this is the best place to post it (it's not really "chat or banter" and isn't specific to a single league so it doesn't seem to fit in the footy section) but here's my thoughts on some stats I've been looking at across the "big 5" leagues.
Average goals per league fairly steady at 2.81 compared to 2.8 last season. Some ups and downs in the various leagues but nothing likely to be significant.
  Penalties scored down from 553 to 471 (10.8% of all goals to 9.2%). I assume that's down to less being awarded rather than poorer conversion but I'll look for the pens awarded numbers. Maybe things are settling down VAR wise.
  Own goals fairly steady, up from 155 to 161 or 3.03% to 3.14%.
  Goals scored by subs up from 666 to 707 or 13.02% to 13.77%. Across the 2 seasons it's only been 9.16% in the Premier League (3 subs max) as opposed to 14.49% in the other 4 leagues (5 subs max). So we can expect an increase in England next season when the 5 sub rule is adopted. Obviously relevant to anytime goalscorer betting in terms of less goals being scored by the starting 11 when the number of subs is increased.
  The % of goals that had an assist was up from 66.8% to 68.2%, largely down to less penalties being scored. If you exclude own goals and penalties the % of "assisted" goals is fairly steady at 77.8% from 77.6%. So an average of 2.81 goals per games but only 1.92 assists. I have a strong feeling that most punters don't appreciate that gulf which makes the anytime assists market even more profitable for the bookies that the anytime goalscorer. I'm still tilting at backing in the goalscorer market (we'll see how that goes next season) but am also happily a seller at bigger prices. I've learnt my lesson with regard to assists though. Never a buyer or a backer be!
  Will probably look at the bookings related stats next.

At least i try to develope things on my own. You copy and past the bets of other guy?...easy life and with time to criticize the effort of other people. You are here like a vampire! Begging to see others fail, are you working for the bookies? 
Get a life!

Firstly, apologies for any offence. I feel I made a fair comment to illustrate the point that there were various ways to interpret a small number of results and you should be wary of being too quick to draw a favourable conclusion. Let’s see how things look with a decent sample size.
Secondly, your criticism is well wide of the mark as I’ve posted plenty of long running threads in systems and strategy (with varying degrees of success) including the current anytime goalscorer system which is very much all my own work and has been going for 5 months and over 300 bets. I also tracked every single bet I posted on here last year and returned over 2000 points profit.
I took over the thread posting the KP tips years ago and continue to do it as there’s a degree of demand, I don’t claim any credit for the results. I suspect I at least match you in terms of the extent of my own endeavours to find ways to beat the bookies.
Don't mistake taking an interest and constructive criticism for a desire to see you fail. Your system obviously takes a very different view to the bookies on a lot of games and it will be interesting to see if that helps you gain an edge of any sort in the long term. Football is a game of relatively few goals and small winning margins though so I wouldn’t bother looking too closely at each individual result for a favourable interpretation.

I guess it was deleted by moderators, and probably this one will be deleted, too - it's just plain spam, to promote site listed in your workbook.
Yeah, of course, I also had a couple of winning runs, first I turned $14.72 into $102,380, and then I took $1,256 out of that amount and turned it into $1 Million! I started another hunt, and yesterday I was on ~$250,000!!! I took day off today to check for some stupid posts online and reply; I'll continue tomorrow, and expect to reach $ 1 Million this time next year!
And it was pretty easy - I take a list of past matches, already finished ones; I arrange them in a nice Excel table; then I write outcomes: "Win", "Win", "Win"... ok, then "Lose" here and there, it is impossible to win each match, and voila! here is my first $ 1 Million, in the table!
What I want to say, if you expect us to believe your story, you should have posted all those bets here, before the match, not now.
Had you indeed won 1 Million, I'm sure you wouldn't be spamming forums, you would be working towards next million... My grandma can make millions the way you did.

I wouldn't expect so as anyone running one would take all the 'value' for themselves.
There are alerts for football, a goal has been scored etc so that you could look at the new price available to 'green up' . Personally I don't use in play as it is fraught with dangers. I know the people who use drones at horse racing to good effect, then there is court siding in tennis, but for me .. I leave it alone.

I guess it was deleted by moderators, and probably this one will be deleted, too - it's just plain spam, to promote site listed in your workbook.
Yeah, of course, I also had a couple of winning runs, first I turned $14.72 into $102,380, and then I took $1,256 out of that amount and turned it into $1 Million! I started another hunt, and yesterday I was on ~$250,000!!! I took day off today to check for some stupid posts online and reply; I'll continue tomorrow, and expect to reach $ 1 Million this time next year!
And it was pretty easy - I take a list of past matches, already finished ones; I arrange them in a nice Excel table; then I write outcomes: "Win", "Win", "Win"... ok, then "Lose" here and there, it is impossible to win each match, and voila! here is my first $ 1 Million, in the table!
What I want to say, if you expect us to believe your story, you should have posted all those bets here, before the match, not now.
Had you indeed won 1 Million, I'm sure you wouldn't be spamming forums, you would be working towards next million... My grandma can make millions the way you did.

I guess it was deleted by moderators, and probably this one will be deleted, too - it's just plain spam, to promote site listed in your workbook.
Yeah, of course, I also had a couple of winning runs, first I turned $14.72 into $102,380, and then I took $1,256 out of that amount and turned it into $1 Million! I started another hunt, and yesterday I was on ~$250,000!!! I took day off today to check for some stupid posts online and reply; I'll continue tomorrow, and expect to reach $ 1 Million this time next year!
And it was pretty easy - I take a list of past matches, already finished ones; I arrange them in a nice Excel table; then I write outcomes: "Win", "Win", "Win"... ok, then "Lose" here and there, it is impossible to win each match, and voila! here is my first $ 1 Million, in the table!
What I want to say, if you expect us to believe your story, you should have posted all those bets here, before the match, not now.
Had you indeed won 1 Million, I'm sure you wouldn't be spamming forums, you would be working towards next million... My grandma can make millions the way you did.

Closing Date June 11th 8pm
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Please use this format with your predictions and top 4 teams
matches MUST be in this order please
1 Friday June 11th 8pm Turkey Vs Italy (A) (0-1) 
2 Saturday June 12th 2pm Wales Vs Switzerland (A) (1-2)
3 Saturday June 12th 5pm Denmark Vs Finland (B) (2-0)
4 Saturday June 12th 8pm Belgium Vs Russia (B) (3-1)
5 Sunday June 13th 2pm England Vs Croatia (D) (2-1)
6 Sunday June 13th 5pm Austria Vs North Macedonia (C) (2-0)
7 Sunday June 13th 8pm Netherlands Vs Ukraine (C) (2-0)
8 Monday June 14th 2pm Scotland Vs Czech Republic (D) (0-2)
9 Monday June 14th 5pm Poland Vs Slovakia (E) (2-0)
10 Monday June 14th 8pm Spain Vs Sweden (E) (2-1)
11 Tuesday June 15th 5pm Hungary Vs Portugal (F) (1-1) 
12 Tuesday June 15th 8pm France Vs Germany (F) (2-1)
13 Wednesday June 16th 2pm Finland Vs Russia (B) (0-2)
14 Wednesday June 16th 5pm Turkey Vs Wales (A) (1-0)
15 Wednesday June 16th 8pm Italy Vs Switzerland (A) (2-0)
16 Thursday June 17th 2pm Ukraine Vs Macedonia (C) (1-0)
17 Thursday June 17th 5pm Denmark Vs Belgium (B) (1-2)
18 Thursday June 17th 8pm Netherlands Vs Austria (C) (2-1)
19 Friday June 18th 2pm Sweden Vs Slovakia (E) (2-0)
20 Friday June 18th 5pm Croatia Vs Czech Republic (D) (1-1)
21 Friday June 18th 8pm England Vs Scotland (D) (3-1)
22 Saturday June 19th 2pm Hungary Vs France (F) (1-3)
23 Saturday June 19th 5pm Portugal Vs Germany (F) (1-2)
24 Saturday June 19th 8pm Spain Vs Poland (E) (1-1)
25 Sunday June 20th 5pm Italy Vs Wales (A) (2-0)
26 Sunday June 20th 5pm Switzerland Vs Turkey (A) (1-2)
27 Monday June 21st 5pm North Macedonia Vs Netherlands (C) (0-2) 
28 Monday June 21st 5pm Ukraine Vs Austria (C) (2-1)
29 Monday June 21st 8pm Finland Vs Belgium (B) (0-2)
30 Monday June 21st 8pm Russia Vs Denmark (B) (1-2)
31 Tuesday June 22nd 8pm Croatia Vs Scotland (D) (2-0)
32 Tuesday June 22nd 8pm Czech Republic Vs England (D) (1-2)
33 Wednesday June 23rd 5pm Slovakia Vs Spain (E) (0-2)
34 Wednesday June 23rd 5pm Sweden Vs Poland (E) (1-2)
35 Wednesday June 23rd 8pm Portugal Vs France (F) (1-2)
36 Wednesday June 23rd 8pm Germany Vs Hungary (F) (2-0)

1 France
2 Italy
3 Denmark
4 Spain

I've done my selections as an example
Good luck 
 

Can't believe it's been a year already Paul @Sir Puntalot. Hope we're looking after things here OK for you.  Can't wait til everyone can get together to celebrate properly what you did here at Punters Lounge.  ??

Back in the day, there was a site WhatIfOdds, which did exactly what you described; it had boxes for each minute of the match, and shown change of odds throughout the match; you tick the minute box when a goal is scored, and it gives you updated odds after that goal. Beautiful site, that unfortunatelly went down, and I have not seen anything similar ever since.
In absence of the app, the best solution I can think about is to monitor "adjacent" market; let me explain it for goal lines, it is easier.
Let's say result is 0-0, and odds are as follows:
Over 0.5 goals 1.10 Over 1.5 goals 1.40 Over 2.5 goals 1.90 Over 3.5 goals 2.90 If a goal is scored at that moment, all odds will be "shifted" to the next line, i.e:
Over 0.5 goals closed Over 1.5 goals 1.10 Over 2.5 goals 1.40 Over 3.5 goals 1.90 Over 4.5 goals 2.90 Of course, not exactly the same odds, but add or take a couple of ticks, that would be it. The same applies to Unders.
For match result, Home/Draw/Away, you monitor European Handicap line (3-way handicap). Let's say:
1X2 market
Home win 1.80 Draw 3.60 Away win 4.50 European handicap market, home team -1
Home win 3.00 Draw 3.80 Away win 2.10 European handicap market, home team +1
Home win 1.25 Draw 6.00 Away win 10.00 Now, if home team scores a goal, 1x2 odds will become
Home win 1.25 Draw 6.00 Away win 10.00 If away team scores a goal, 1x2 odds will become
Home win 3.00 Draw 3.80 (you see these odds barely changed compared to before goal, they can be even lower - if you ever traded Lay The Draw strategy, you are certainly familiar with "underdog scores first" bomb, duh...) Away win 2.10 For next goal, you observe EH+2 or EH-2 markets, and so on... Similar for AH markets.
The site I mentioned above, WhatIfOdds, also had ability to include red card impact; I'm not sure how you could evaluate change of odds after red card; certainly not this way.

Welcome to the forum @Litho
Well, you don't have to look too far down this section of the forum to find a thread that returned an average of over 50 points per day over 40 days and around 400 bets. That involved the arcane world of spread betting though! 
Have a look round the forum and you should find plenty of potentially profitable strategies or tipsters, or ideas for developing your own. Especially if you're willing to consider more sports and bookies than football and 365.
Think of this place as a restaurant where you sit down and browse the menu for a while, rather than where you just turn up hoping to be spoonfed. I appreciate that might sound harsher than intended; what I mean is you probably won't get much response to your request when people are already taking the time and effort to share their strategies, profitbale or otherwise, all over the forum.

No. I'm all-in. My attitude, and I realise I'm wrong in saying this, is that I started with £100 which is all that I'll really lose and an amount I'm prepared to lose.

Remember: Treat each bet as the first one.
Good luck!

From his stats, 45 won, 83 lost, average odds 3.00, it is around 7 units profit at 1 unit stakes, ROI 5.5%. It is not bad result, but sample is way toooooo small to say if he really cracked something or it's just beginner's luck. Another 9 matches losing streak would have wiped that entire profit.

From his stats, 45 won, 83 lost, average odds 3.00, it is around 7 units profit at 1 unit stakes, ROI 5.5%. It is not bad result, but sample is way toooooo small to say if he really cracked something or it's just beginner's luck. Another 9 matches losing streak would have wiped that entire profit.

From his stats, 45 won, 83 lost, average odds 3.00, it is around 7 units profit at 1 unit stakes, ROI 5.5%. It is not bad result, but sample is way toooooo small to say if he really cracked something or it's just beginner's luck. Another 9 matches losing streak would have wiped that entire profit.

From his stats, 45 won, 83 lost, average odds 3.00, it is around 7 units profit at 1 unit stakes, ROI 5.5%. It is not bad result, but sample is way toooooo small to say if he really cracked something or it's just beginner's luck. Another 9 matches losing streak would have wiped that entire profit.

When you say "preview", what do you mean, textual description and prediction, or statistics? For the former, PuntersLounge still has very good write up for a fair number of football matches, and other sports, too, especially tennis.
Personally, I don't pay too much attention to them, as I am also statistics junkie. I used various sites over the time, the favourite one TipsterArea.com, and then there are other good ones, such as BTFStats.com, SoccerWay.com (it also has textual preview), FootStats.co.uk, FootCharts.co.uk, SofaScore.com...
However, I also like to have raw data on my disposal, and then I do my manipulation with them. My favourite sources are Football-Data.co.uk and CGMBet.com; the later one is an incredible tool, I guess you are aware of its own successfull thread here:
I publish some of the tools I use on my site, BetGPS.com. I also like the spreadsheets available at OddsPredictor.org.uk, they have very interesting stats.

When you say "preview", what do you mean, textual description and prediction, or statistics? For the former, PuntersLounge still has very good write up for a fair number of football matches, and other sports, too, especially tennis.
Personally, I don't pay too much attention to them, as I am also statistics junkie. I used various sites over the time, the favourite one TipsterArea.com, and then there are other good ones, such as BTFStats.com, SoccerWay.com (it also has textual preview), FootStats.co.uk, FootCharts.co.uk, SofaScore.com...
However, I also like to have raw data on my disposal, and then I do my manipulation with them. My favourite sources are Football-Data.co.uk and CGMBet.com; the later one is an incredible tool, I guess you are aware of its own successfull thread here:
I publish some of the tools I use on my site, BetGPS.com. I also like the spreadsheets available at OddsPredictor.org.uk, they have very interesting stats.

Good luck with the bets mate but, if this is a glory hunt, just put all the selections in a single thread and update the performance as you go. There’s no need, and it’s not the appropriate use of this section, to post a new thread every day. (And it’s not Tuesday today either!) 

Hi everyone ?
It's me again. I'm a loser right now, can't win. I can't manage my bank. I can't manage a thread.
I don't forget my last threads all losers. ?
my-challenge-for-2021
Road to 2021
I absolutely have to fix my problem, because I can't deposit more than £100 a month. ?
I love this forum, I really like the members ?
@Fader in with snooker and darts
@JdsGooner90 @waggy @Skittle  for their threads (skittle doesn't like me lol )
@StevieDay1983 for his analyses and also the members of the tennis party .

 That's also why I want to continue and succeed. 
I absolutely have to play sports that I know well such as soccer ⚽️ tennis ?  rugby ? Cricket ?  snooker ? 
For tennis, I must absolutely play only ATP. Not the challengers, not the WTA, not the ITF. 
➡️ To be successful, I will put a stop loss of 10% per day, and limit deposits on bet fair to £100 per month. So if I lose, it's over. 
So I'm begin with only £500 and deposit £100 a month until December. 
I'd like to win £50 a month ideally.
If all goes well, by December 2021 I'll have £2000.
That would be wonderful but there is work to be done. 
➡️ I'm counting on you to fight me if I don't play by the rules. 

you can ban me if I don’t respect my rules ?
 
? see you tomorrow 
 
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Hi , 
Finally I realise that being away from home for this business trip gives me even more time to devote myself to betting. So I'm not going to take up this thread again. 
A few changes : 
Starting bank: £500. 
Monthly deposit: £100 
Target December 2021: £2000 

? No more than 5% per bet 
➡️ No more than 1 bet in progress 
? Limit Loss: £90 per day  (Reset at 6:15 Pm) 
? Deposit limit: £100 per month

Start: £500
Deposit: March +£100 
? Bank: £600

Arsenal - The Gunners

Arsenal's nickname 'The Gunners' is a reference to the club's origins, having been formed by workers from the Royal Arsenal armament factory in Woolwich in 1886. And it is also showed on their logo.

Manchester City - Blue Moon

It is said that Man City fans often sing blue moon to cheer themselves up. The first time when it was sung was at the opening game of the 1989-90 season at Liverpool. Some Man City fans sang a sort of melancholic version when Man City was down, and it caught on in later days. Now Blue Moon has been a surname of Manchester City.

Manchester United - Red Devil

When Salford's dominant rugby league team (Salford is the main district within the City of Salford, Greater Manchester) traveled to France to play games, their unbeaten record impressed the native so the French call them Red Devil. Manchester United dressed in red as Salford. So they take the red devil as their nickname. In 1970s, a devil with a trident in hand was added to the club's logo.

English Premier League has a long history. Some of clubs of the League is even older than League itself. Each club has their own culture, where their nickname come from. Let's talk about some interesting nickname of English Premier League clubs.