Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: I was trying to point you in the right direction of almost guaranteed profits but if you want to ignore the advise then so be it. Said before @MCLARKEi think we are wasting our breath, seems our friend just loves to be a victim of losing. maybe its a hard habit to get out of. i much prefer the winning habit myself. MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Zilzalian said: my second leg was sirius white so i got one going here, CO is 194 quid but will let it ride on night traveller and then it maybe bingo time. i just love these lucky 15's ? Yes, I still remember when you had the opportunity of winning £13k plus. Very exciting, though me as an inveterate loser would have cashed out. Good luck, Zil you richly deserve it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Affair is one of the dodgiest ggs around but its the only one done the trip that CO is very tempting got 20 mins to think about it. MCLARKE and The Equaliser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Said before @MCLARKEi think we are wasting our breath, seems our friend just loves to be a victim of losing. maybe its a hard habit to get out of. i much prefer the winning habit myself. I think you are right. I wish I was starting out, there's thousands you can make if you use the bookmakers offers correctly. Zilzalian and BBBC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Zilzalian said: Affair is one of the dodgiest ggs around but its the only one done the trip that CO is very tempting got 20 mins to think about it. not sure i will sleep well if i cash out and the bugger wins so sod it be a man and let it ride. @The Equaliser @MCLARKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanV89 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Zilzalian said: not sure i will sleep well if i cash out and the bugger wins so sod it be a man and let it ride. @The Equaliser @MCLARKE Good luck Zilzalian. Out of interest, what made you fancy White? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: not sure i will sleep well if i cash out and the bugger wins so sod it be a man and let it ride. Good man. Best of luck ! Perhaps lay it for a tenner so at least you make a profit if it loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, MCLARKE said: Good man. Best of luck ! Perhaps lay it for a tenner so at least you make a profit if it loses. i dont do laying to be honest i will bank 450 ish if it loses anyway leg just fell off it its 22/1 now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Zilzalian said: i dont do laying to be honest i will bank 450 ish if it loses anyway leg just fell off it its 22/1 now lol Yep, forgot you've already got a treble and a few doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Affair is one of the dodgiest ggs around but its the only one done the trip that CO is very tempting got 20 mins to think about it. Timeform's 5* top rated. I don't think you will cash out. I would. Have you ever cashed out BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_rag Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: I wish I was starting out, there's thousands you can make if you use the bookmakers offers correctly. You’ve still got spread betting to go at, far easier to make money than this fixed odds lark! To be fair though, you might have to be willing to stray from the familiar terrain of racing (I’ve no idea what the racing spreads are like in terms of “low hanging fruit”). MCLARKE and The Equaliser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, DanV89 said: Good luck Zilzalian. Out of interest, what made you fancy White? these are poor horses so i just try find a bit of form or just something anything at a price and sirius white was the only horse not fully exposed and at least had a bit of potential. The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 well a 13 and a half furlong sprint just negated the fact that Affair was the only horse that had done that trip and my reason for backing it. ??? The Equaliser and MCLARKE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Equaliser said: Timeform's 5* top rated. I don't think you will cash out. I would. Have you ever cashed out BTW? No i have never cashed out just on the principle of why put a bet on to win say 8 grand as in this case in the first place if your going to cash out for 500 quid think of it this way if all 4 had lost i would have lost £6. i just won 453 quid for 6 quid. what are your loses for the last 12 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Affair is one of the dodgiest ggs around but its the only one done the trip that CO is very tempting got 20 mins to think about it. Looks good fun this lucky 15. I might have a go each day, I ususally have a few prospects, I normally do singles on the shorter odds, I'll pick 4 at 10/1 or over that are best priced on BET365. harry_rag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_rag Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: Looks good fun this lucky 15. I might have a go each day, I ususally have a few prospects, I normally do singles on the shorter odds, I'll pick 4 at 10/1 or over that are best priced on BET365. Out of interest, are there any firms that do double the odds for one winner online or is that just a shops thing? Chances are if any do do it online it’ll be a firm that’s withdrawn all such promotions for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: Looks good fun this lucky 15. I might have a go each day, I ususally have a few prospects, I normally do singles on the shorter odds, I'll pick 4 at 10/1 or over that are best priced on BET365. they are good fun and for small stakes are value just for excitement when the first 2 go in. said before my serious bets are on 2yolds but its a long break between my optimum betting range which is from royal ascot through to the Arc. so i just remember stuff and look for stuff in these rubbish races and they are rubbish, just look at the results today and on most days on the aw tells you everything. i look at/watch races make notes and use them but even that only gets me a few horses per day i have to study daily for more. to be honest i do occasionally put a fav in if i really fancy it but i usually have at least 3 decent prices. 7/1 up to 33's and over occasionally. MCLARKE and The Equaliser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, harry_rag said: Out of interest, are there any firms that do double the odds for one winner online or is that just a shops thing? Chances are if any do do it online it’ll be a firm that’s withdrawn all such promotions for me! most online do double the odds for a win (one winner on bet) single on lucky 15,31,63. 365, betfred et al. Betfred used to go triple for one winner in the shops dont know if they still do. MCLARKE and harry_rag 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just to add to the lucky 15 debate ... its my favourite multi due to the double odds single winner bonus. I'll often do a 1pt ew one with skybet utilising the extra place races with decent priced selections especially on days when the racing is low quality (for a bit of interest). You have to make a call on the prices cos you dont get bog ( if anyone still does anyway). I've had some very decent returns for 4 placed selections. And i always add a 2.5pt ew acc. For a win lucky 15 i've always felt it was insurance for the last leg coming 2nd. For the big priced ew I reckon it gives me a cash out option if the first 3 win in that I could let one bet run and cash one in. Not that I ever have cashed one out but I've convinced myself its nice to have the option. @Zilzalian congrats on a decent return Zilzalian, MCLARKE and The Equaliser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just looking through all the comments of good and fair advice given by many members which is the very essence of a good community site such as this one. I am staggered that a member that loses year in and year out totally rejected almost instantly every piece of advice given and instead in his own words chooses to carry on losing to at least the year end. Like i said i am absolutely staggered and i can't work out why it bothers me so much. Bang on, MCLARKE and DanV89 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Like i said i am absolutely staggered and i can't work out why it bothers me so much. Perhaps human nature, he would like to win using his own judgement. Good luck to him, I admire his enthusiasm and persistence. It also promotes lots of discussion, which isn't a bad thing. The Equaliser, Tedthewolf and BBBC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Do them all the time I had sirius white but nothing else so nice little profit with the double odds I do each way though ? Zilzalian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 hours ago, MCLARKE said: Perhaps human nature, he would like to win using his own judgement. Good luck to him, I admire his enthusiasm and persistence. It also promotes lots of discussion, which isn't a bad thing. With respect to him i don't see much "own Judgement" other than bad judgement, second bit is accurate. at least he gets attention. MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Perhaps we could start a thread for lucky 15 31 64 just for fun I do 4 or 5 a day france and the uk but I do cash out some times sorry @Zilzalian ? BBBC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said: Perhaps we could start a thread for lucky 15 31 64 just for fun I do 4 or 5 a day france and the uk but I do cash out some times sorry @Zilzalian ? Public bar with the women and half a stout for you @LEE-GRAYS ? man up lad stop the ew and the co's leave the domino's alone and play darts n cards ? easiest 300 points a year is offer to be bookie for @The Equaliser and take all his bets ?? im sure he would rather us have it than betfair. Maybe 4 of us could offer one gg a day for the Lucky 15 maybe steal @The Brigadier daily nap for starters, Let @MCLARKE chuck one in, you one and me one see how we get on for a month. Got a better plan? i am open to ideas. Maybe go to war with another team. BBBC and LEE-GRAYS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I'd happily throw in a selection although my ew preference may stick me in the public bar with a dry white wine and a packet of dry roasted peanuts Zilzalian and LEE-GRAYS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Public bar with the women and half a stout for you @LEE-GRAYS ? man up lad stop the ew and the co's leave the domino's alone and play darts n cards ? easiest 300 points a year is offer to be bookie for @The Equaliser and take all his bets ?? im sure he would rather us have it than betfair. Maybe 4 of us could offer one gg a day for the Lucky 15 maybe steal @The Brigadier daily nap for starters, Let @MCLARKE chuck one in, you one and me one see how we get on for a month. Got a better plan? i am open to ideas. Maybe go to war with another team. Don’t mind I’ll pick one for tonight later ? The Brigadier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Ok ok we go ew for P/L accounting purposes, but no gg under 10/1 hows that? @BBBC @LEE-GRAYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Fine by me. Mine is 1915 Southwell Six Strings 12 widely available as are 4 places for ew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Ok ok we go ew for P/L accounting purposes, but no gg under 10/1 hows that? Sounds good to me. I'll open a new thread. Might I suggest the bet is with BET365 and they should be offeriing the best odds amongst the leading bookmakers. LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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