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Most systems will use the same information, LTO placing, days since a run, etc etc. Nothing wrong with that as an aid, but the masses use them and it can reduce the price making it difficult to make a profit. I would say that most 'systems', if followed to the letter, will fail over time.... especially if the 'formula' is shared and becomes public knowledge, as this leads to more people finding the selections and the average win price to reduce, making it unviable.
My National Hunt system ( I recommend different systems/methods for different disciplines) is still going strong after a good period of time. The very 1st rule is different to any other system I have seen ( and I have seen hundreds). As an example, this month, September, not a busy month for the Jumps, has seen 21 selections, of which 13 have won, at an average price of around 7/2, and a +41pts return to level stakes. This is quite exceptional, even for this system, but it does make good profits regularly. I may start a thread next month for these, as I always post after my bets have been placed.
Not all of my bets come from systems, some are found by following trainers in good form (winners not just running to form), an example was my NAP yesterday, a Gillian Boanas runner, a small stable who have had a few winners recently at very good prices (mostly double figs). SMALL STABLES in FORM are definitely worth a look.
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Various I would imagine, some use systems , some try reading the form, some use their own ratings, some may even stick a pin or throw a dart. ?
Personally, I have my own methods (don't post all my bets on here). First step is to try and reduce the workload, it is impossible if you try and find the winner of every race.
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September running total = + 18.53 pts
NO selections qualify today.
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1 hour ago, yossa6133 said:
Why Derby? Seems like Reading have improved and Derby's only recent win was against Stoke when they probably should have lost. I was tempted to back Reading!
Derby are only at the bottom because of a points deduction.
They are at HOME, and have not lost at home ( 1-3-0 ). Reading when playing away are ( 1-0-3 ) scoring 5 and conceding 10 on their travels. It is all about what you look for, different opinions, I try to have the percentages in my favour. Personally, I WON'T be having a bet on the game.
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Nothing is a stand out midweek on my stats, best bet option is Derby 5/4.
For @StevieDay1983 I have it as a close call for the Cardiff game, if forced to bet I would bet on the draw.
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The season starting to settle down now, and stats come into play now for me. Percentage chances etc.
Banker = Plymouth at 8/11 (was 17/20 when doing stats)
followed by Sunderland 4/6, and Oxford 13/20 (was 5/6 when doing stats yesterday).
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September running total = + 18.16 pts
Seem to be struggling to get over the line this last week or so. Long term is what counts.
Todays selections - bet365 B.O.G.
2.10 Ayr - Mr Alan - 11/8 ... WON
3.50 Ayr - Noble Crusade - 7/2 ... lost 2nd 4/1
A small profit today, September now = + 18.53 pts
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4.45 Sedge - Just call me Al - 9/1 bet365
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5.30 Newc - Hooked on You - 6/1 Bet365
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September running total = + 19.16 pts
A bit of a dilemma today. My selection process has thrown up a selection, and in the same race I have had a message for another horse. In order to keep my selection process honest, I will post the selection, and also mention the messaged horse (as I have backed it).
Todays selection - bet365 B.O.G.
5.30 Newcastle - Chichen Itza - 6/4
( The messaged horse is 'Hooked on you' 6/1 of Karl Burke's who I like with 2 year olds - I have backed Each Way )
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September running total = + 20.16 pts
Todays selection - bet365 B.O.G.
5.50 Ripon - Hurstwood - 11/4 ... lost
Another loser and the monthly figure drops to + 19.16 pts.
September numbers - 27 winners from 63 selections.
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Don't know if you have any back stats, but have you tried a price cap ? Around 80% winners will be single fig odds, with most of the rest double fig but very few triple fig (100/1 +).
I realise you might miss 'the big one', but my experience (for what it's worth ) would suggest around 25/1 - 33/1 as a cap.
There could be something in this but just trying to help.
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6.00 Newc - Bringitonboris - 7/2 with most firms
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September running total = + 20.91 pts
Seem to be missing the target recently and taking small losses. Quite busy with 4 selections today.
Todays selections - bet365 B.O.G.
3.50 York - Captain Cooper - 4/1 ... lost
4.02 Worc - Pagero - 9/4 ... WON
5.25 York - Topanticipation - 2/1 ... lost
7.00 Newc - Hostelry - 3/1 ... lost
Another frustrating day. September now = + 20.16 pts
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I am being offered £100 more than I staked to 'cash out' ... wow ! They must have been filled in.
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5.05 Newmarket - Babindi - 15/8 Paddy Power
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10 minutes ago, alexcaruso808 said:
I will keep an eye out - when I read your speed ratings I was going to have a look at the horses again and bet on some of your selections.
If you click on HORSE RACING .... then under UK & Ireland ... you will see days of the week etc.
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September running total = + 22.71 pts
Todays selections - bet365 B.O.G.
3.30 Ponte - Cottam Lane - 7/4 ... lost
4.05 Ponte - Indian Sounds - 3/1 ... lost
4.50 Perth - Spiders Bite - 5/2 ... lost
8.30 Wolv - Diamond Bay - Ev ... WON 6/5
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3.00 Perth - Teescomponents Lad - 15/2 Skybet
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If this comes off @TheBrigadierwill be the toast of the forum.
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September running total = + 23.21 pts
A small loss yesterday and we seem to be stuck in a rut. Just like all good things, all bad things have to come to an end.
Todays selections - bet365 B.O.G.
2.17 Good - Some Nightmare - 6/4 ... WON
2.35 Redcar - Dr Rio - 5/2 ... lost
2.52 Good - King Vega - 5/2 ... lost
1 winner, 2 losers. September now + 22.71 pts
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5.50 Newc - Meadow Sprite - 9/2 bet365
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17 hours ago, alexcaruso808 said:
I am currently devising a new system whereby I consider different factors of giving a horse my own rating.
At the minute I have it set up to include the OR and RPR, but I'm wondering if these are accurate? Don't some trainers and jockeys send their horses out knowing full well they wont win the race, just to manipulate the OR and RPR?
Of course, that's the nature of the game. Gradually get the horse fully fit and ready, whilst all the time trying to get the handicap mark down. That makes the 'Official Rating' redundant at times, although I'm sure it counts for much more in the valuable handicaps and Group races.
As for RPR ratings, the racing post ratings are a 'help' but are only someones opinion. For FACTS, check out the NAPS competition in the R.Post, RPR is in the bottom 7 of 52 tipsters. As for ALL races this year, they are currently showing a 26% strike rate, despite tipping 46% favourites. Treat with caution Alex.
Naps - Thursday 30th September
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3.55 Ling - Red Evelyn - 25/1 bet365