Golf: The Open Championship

[Woodie]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Nice offer but one question to you lot what would you rather take 33s on someone with 8 places paid for take 60s with only 5 places paid? p.s kev no beef here didn't mention anything at all that was woody posting up there I'm woodie not woody.

[kevshat]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

Nice offer but one question to you lot what would you rather take 33s on someone with 8 places paid for take 60s with only 5 places paid? p.s kev no beef here didn't mention anything at all that was woody posting up there I'm woodie not woody.

For me it depends on the situation. If I'm backing a long shot that could win but I'm backing him because I think he'll be up there I'll take the 8 places. If I'm going for one at the top of the market who I'm confident will win I'll take the lower places. Didn't think there would be a beef mate, just wanted to clarify it to save others having a dig :ok.

[WoodyTHFC]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Firstly, I have mentioned on other parts of this forum before how I will not have direct contact with a certain individual on this forum ever again but I will have some indirect comments about some of the comments on here especially since that the individual concerned already highlighted my post when I didn’t even mention one name. Apparently an individual claims, ‘I don't discourage any selections’ and ‘I encourage all selections’ but previously had said, ‘Don't back Michael Campbell.’ Clearly all those statements are in complete agreement then. Also this individual claims the likes of Greg Norman had recent form before the 2008 Open. Well of course the BMW Asian Open (3 months before the Open) and a T14th placing is such great evidence of such recent form and completely ignores the fact it is the only tournament that Norman had shown anything in for ages and basically played or that the last time Norman had even competed in any Major was the last time Jack Nicklaus played. Chris Wood may have shown some form at a lower level but hadn’t done anything in any kind of proper European tour event. Ben Curtis only had one half decent event before the Open and that was a 13th in a small PGA Tour event that actually enabled him to qualify and up until that point prove a best in professional golf. What about this year’s US Open? Ricky Barnes at one point was a clear leader and ultimately had a share of second. He had been playing on the nationwide tour the year earlier and had a really impressive best of T47 on the PGA tour that season before his US Open effort. David Duval had no current form really at all (went into the event world no.882), he hadn’t even got past no.55 in an event on the PGA Tour and yet he suddenly discovered some old magic and shared second with Barnes. So it shows guys with hardly any if indeed any notable recent form can surprise and shock on occasions. For what it is worth I don’t fancy Michael Campbell myself and probably given his bad form would look to oppose him in 3 balls if anything despite the fact that he has some solid Open background (54 hole leader at St Andrews in 1995 and 6 Open cuts made on the trot) but I certainly wont be going round on a betting forum, where people put up selections, to say to someone else, ‘Don't back Michael Campbell,’ or for that matter any golfer or any selection anywhere. How are new people going to be encouraged to post on here if someone turns round and says not to back that individual? Its sets a bad precedent imo. Anyway if I’m allowed to carry on I have some first round 3 balls and for this championship I will include some outrights at times: C.Villegas to beat S.O’Hair and Y.Ikeda 23/20 tote 10 pts Essentially I feel this is a two horse race. Ikeda qualified through the Asian route and has won some big tournaments out there but has no experience of links golf and a test like the Open so has something to prove. O’Hair is a clear threat, a winner this year and in very good form in general albeit he hasn’t shown as much in his last threats. He also showed a bit in his first two Open’s but hasn’t done as much in his last two Open’s. However Villegas could go well this week. Whilst he hasn’t quite hit the heights of last year, he has been consistent enough and has shown the odd good week, a 3rd and a 5th and also has some solid Open history from last year when he was bang up there until a long wait halfway through round 3 seemed to hurt him badly. I just like the Colombian in this 3 ball. L.Donald to beat D.Clarke and A.Yano 6/5 sj 10 pts I spoke of Donald in my outright and I feel he can go well this week. Despite not as successful recent form compared to his early year form, it is still better than his two companions here. An inform Clarke is a clear threat but he has shown little for some time. Possibly hurt by sir nick’s rejection of him last year, he has a best of just 1 top 15 in his last 13 starts, 5 m/c in that period and not much when he made the cut. The Asian player has played a bit in various parts in the world and did at least make the cut at the US Open but he struggled last week in the Scottish Open where he m/c and also m/c on his only other Open appearance. Donald for me in this 3 ball. D.Howell to beat S.Cink and T.Jaidee 3/1 lad 10 pts A bigger price here but one who could surprise. Howell’s current form hardly inspires at all, he has only made 4 cuts all year. However he has always been someone who can prosper on links courses as shown last year when he came through into T7 and maybe a return to a links course could spur some kind of form. In short though I’m not as keen on his rivals. Cink a clear class act on his day but not in great form, only 1 top 10 in stroke play events since last years Open. Jaidee has been solid enough of late with 6 cuts made out of 7 but hasn’t really gone on from that or have any history in the Open and Howell could bounce back here especially if gets hot with the putter like he can on his day. R.Jacquelin to beat M.Goggin and K.Duke 11/8 sj 10 pts Jacquelin came with a great run last week at the Scottish Open to come T2 and claim the final qualifying spot so clearly he has some kind of form. Whilst he has been very erratic apart from that, he did have a T2 and a T5 so when he gets it right he can be a threat. Also he has played ok in the Open in the past, one T13 and but for a final round 79 last year he would have been much higher last year. Goggin hasn’t made the cut in his previous Open’s and after a decent start to the year hasn’t performed as well lately, 2 cuts made in 6. Duke had a shocking time in his last Open when +14 and missing the cut. He also has missed 10 cuts this year and hasn’t made a top 25 yet so clearly lacks current form which Jacquelin doesn’t and I think he can win this 3 ball. H.Mahan to beat J.Rose and A.Romero 5/4 skyb 10 pts I spoke of Mahan in my outrights and mentioned his very good current form, slight Open background and possibility of a decent week. Rose and Romero’s both have major Open pedigrees and both have come close to winning it in the past. However both are not playing as well as Mahan atm or for that matter playing that well full stop. Rose has had one second but no other top 15s and a host of m/c compared to Mahan’s none and Romero had one T3 earlier in the year but has missed cuts galore after that. Mahan for me in this 3 ball. D.Love III to beat S.Appleby and P.Lawrie 13/8 sj 10 pts Love III came through qualifying and he should enjoy the Open. His previous record is exceptional without winning, 5 top 10s and also 4 other top 21s. His game looked on the decline for a while but he has had a revival of sorts, a 3,6 and 1 late last year. Then a second to start of this year and some other steady efforts including a T5 at the Memorial. Appleby’s game in contrast hasn’t had a revival. For a long time a lock in seemingly in the top 50 in the world, he is now world no.83, just one top 10 and a spell a few weeks back of 4 m/c out of 5 and the week he made the cut he was 72. Lawrie is a former winner but his form since that seemingly one off win hardly inspires and that can be said of his current form as well with beside 1 top 10, not a single event inside the top 20. Love III has the best current form of this trio and I select him here. F.Jacobson to beat C.Hoffman and J.Kingston 7/4 lad 10 pts I spoke about Jacobson in my outright and mentioned that despite inconsistent form, his odd run at the Open including last year, hint of form in the odd event this year and the fact he was good enough to qualify suggest he could go ok. Hoffman is a danger. He has played quite well this year including one second and hasn’t missed a cut for a year however Jacobson’s extra experience of links golf could well help him there. As for Kingston he came second in the Scottish Open last year but since then hasn’t really kicked on, some good weeks and a few top 10s but not really threatening the winners sction. The swede for me here. T.Levet to beat K.Sutherland and R S Johnson 6/5 cor 10 pts Levet came so close to winning this in 2002 and also had a T5 two years later so clearly he enjoys links golf he could make the most of his late entry here. Also his form has been pretty good this year, 1 win and also 3 top 10s since then. Sutherland’s form is nowhere near as good with just one top 10 all year and whilst he played well on his Open debut in 2001, he struggled in his next year and this is his first return since. Johnson’s form wasn’t too bad early on in the year but since then it has been poor as 5 m/c in 9 and no finish better than 45 when he did get through. Levet for me in this one.

[JohnnyG]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Has anyone paid eight places on a major before? Not that I'm too bothered, I'll take your money Boylesports!

[kevshat]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

Firstly' date=' I have mentioned on other parts of this forum before how I will not have direct contact with a certain individual on this forum ever again but I will have some indirect comments about some of the comments on here especially since that the individual concerned already highlighted my post when I didn’t even mention one name. Apparently an individual claims, ‘I don't discourage any selections’ and ‘I encourage all selections’ but previously had said, ‘Don't back Michael Campbell.’ Clearly all those statements are in complete agreement then. Also this individual claims the likes of Greg Norman had recent form before the 2008 Open. Well of course the BMW Asian Open (3 months before the Open) and a T14th placing is such great evidence of such recent form and completely ignores the fact it is the only tournament that Norman had shown anything in for ages and basically played or that the last time Norman had even competed in any Major was the last time Jack Nicklaus played. Chris Wood may have shown some form at a lower level but hadn’t done anything in any kind of proper European tour event. Ben Curtis only had one half decent event before the Open and that was a 13th in a small PGA Tour event that actually enabled him to qualify and up until that point prove a best in professional golf. What about this year’s US Open? Ricky Barnes at one point was a clear leader and ultimately had a share of second. He had been playing on the nationwide tour the year earlier and had a really impressive best of T47 on the PGA tour that season before his US Open effort. David Duval had no current form really at all (went into the event world no.882), he hadn’t even got past no.55 in an event on the PGA Tour and yet he suddenly discovered some old magic and shared second with Barnes. So it shows guys with hardly any if indeed any notable recent form can surprise and shock on occasions. For what it is worth I don’t fancy Michael Campbell myself and probably given his bad form would look to oppose him in 3 balls if anything despite the fact that he has some solid Open background (54 hole leader at St Andrews in 1995 and 6 Open cuts made on the trot) but I certainly wont be going round on a betting forum, where people put up selections, to say to someone else, ‘Don't back Michael Campbell,’ or for that matter any golfer or any selection anywhere. How are new people going to be encouraged to post on here if someone turns round and says not to back that individual? Its sets a bad precedent imo. Anyway if I’m allowed to carry on I have some first round 3 balls and for this championship I will include some outrights at times[/quote'] I'm not going to get into an arguement with you. You're not worth it, especially when the person my advice was directed to has no problem with it. That leads me to wonder what it actually had to do with you. You see giving advice is what this forum is all about but as you pointed out elsewhere, I'm sure you'll just do as you like.

[redrum1982]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

Has anyone paid eight places on a major before? Not that I'm too bothered' date=' I'll take your money Boylesports![/quote'] According to the information I got on their site, it's a world first but the sh1t thing about it is that it only lasts until mindnight tonight. Which means I'm going to have to make a decision about who to back before 12 o'clock tonight. I feel a bit like the Cinderella of the golf betting world!

[tgc100969]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Here are my bets for the Open after picking up a decent bet on Lucas Glover in the US Open http://www.picoodle.com/] Villegas - played well last year and certain to win a major class act Donald - next big British hope has the game to win an Open Clark - has always played well in majors before KJ Choi - last round leader last year and likely to be up there again Snedeker - excellent golfer and sure fire major winner Mayfair - 1000/1 last time he played an Open he finished 3rd in 2002!! Campbell - major winner in the past and likely to pop up again at a huge price this might be his year on the Clarke - sentimental choice would just love him to win a major, lovely guy Hansen - always plays well on the European tour and likely to run into a place Weekley - love him to win, had never heard of the open golf championship until couple of years ago but big player and could spring a surprise Echenique - has played some big rounds in recent weeks leading until final round 2 weeks ago, lively outsider All bets each way 1st 7 places on Paddy Power

[SB162002]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship plumped for Mahan , Furyk , Stenson , Ohair , Gay , Kjeldson , snedeker , Ames Hopefully one or more will be in with a shout come the last day Good luck all

[kevshat]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

Here are my bets for the Open after picking up a decent bet on Lucas Glover in the US Open http://www.picoodle.com/]

plumped for Mahan , Furyk , Stenson , Ohair , Gay , Kjeldson , snedeker , Ames Hopefully one or more will be in with a shout come the last day Good luck all

What the reasoning for these picks guys?

[Woodie]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Theres a open preview on at the moment on radiofive live until 10 if anyone interested.

[Jonesy Knows]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Could end up having to go into Monday this tournament if the weather forecast is to be believed. I'm really looking forward to this years Open Championship because this could turn out to be a real slugfest and I can't have Mr Tiger Woods on a course that is alien to him and him still not convincing me that he is back to his imperious best! I'd love to see Harrington win it for the 3rd year in a row, what an achievement that would be! :eek however he has not been playing at all well and is another I would rather wait and see and if my bets have bit the dust then I'll be cheering the Honourary Scouse Irishman on, if he is in with a chance! I'm going to take The Masters angle here in that the last 11 years the winers of that tournament have placed 1-m-11-25-28-28-3-1-22-20-19 at the Open. It will take players to have to hit shots off different lies, use great imagination around the greens (often playing bump and runs), shape the ball off the tee and hit it high and land it soft. It also shows they're in good form that year and can play under the highest pressure. Predictions: A Cabrera @101.00 William Hill - Each Way (5 places 1/4 odds) C Campbell @301.00 Totesport - Each Way (5 places 1/4 odds) K Perry @71.00 William Hill - Each Way (5 places 1/4 odds) S Stricker @51.00 Paddypower - Each Way (7 places 1/4 odds) :ok

[Jonesy Knows]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship On to my first round bet! Paul Broadhurst hit every fairway, 17 greens and opened up with four birdies in his practice round! Which leads me on to some stonking value bets: Predictions: Paul Broadhurst - 1st Round leader @251.00 Paddypower - Each Way (1/4 odds 5 places) Paul Broadhurst to win the 3 ball v Calcavechia & Campbell @2.50 - Win Totesport :ok

[tgc100969]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship :hope

Here are my bets for the Open after picking up a decent bet on Lucas Glover in the US Open http://www.picoodle.com/] Villegas - played well last year and certain to win a major class act Donald - next big British hope has the game to win an Open Clark - has always played well in majors before KJ Choi - last round leader last year and likely to be up there again Snedeker - excellent golfer and sure fire major winner Mayfair - 1000/1 last time he played an Open he finished 3rd in 2002!! Campbell - major winner in the past and likely to pop up again at a huge price this might be his year on the Clarke - sentimental choice would just love him to win a major, lovely guy Hansen - always plays well on the European tour and likely to run into a place Weekley - love him to win, had never heard of the open golf championship until couple of years ago but big player and could spring a surprise Echenique - has played some big rounds in recent weeks leading until final round 2 weeks ago, lively outsider All bets each way 1st 7 places on Paddy Power

[bowles10]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Top 20 & ties per year 2008

Pos	Name	Country	To Par	R1	R2	R3	R4	Total	Prize Money
1	HARRINGTON Padraig	IRL	+3	74	68	72	69	283	€ 938565.00
2	POULTER Ian	ENG	+7	72	71	75	69	287	€ 563139.00
3	NORMAN Greg	AUS	+9	70	70	72	77	289	€ 319112.10
3	STENSON Henrik	SWE	+9	76	72	70	71	289	€ 319112.10
5	FURYK Jim	USA	+10	71	71	77	71	290	€ 225255.60
5	WOOD Chris	ENG	+10	75	70	73	72	290	€ 0.01
7	ALLENBY Robert	AUS	+12	69	73	76	74	292	€ 121318.22
7	AMES Stephen	CAN	+12	73	70	78	71	292	€ 121318.22
7	CASEY Paul	ENG	+12	78	71	73	70	292	€ 121318.22
7	CURTIS Ben	USA	+12	78	69	70	75	292	€ 121318.22
7	ELS Ernie	RSA	+12	80	69	74	69	292	€ 121318.22
7	HOWELL David	ENG	+12	76	71	78	67	292	€ 121318.22
7	KARLSSON Robert	SWE	+12	75	73	75	69	292	€ 121318.22
7	KIM Anthony	USA	+12	72	74	71	75	292	€ 121318.22
7	STRICKER Steve	USA	+12	77	71	71	73	292	€ 121318.22
16	CHOI K J	KOR	+13	72	67	75	79	293	€ 66533.83
16	LEONARD Justin	USA	+13	77	70	73	73	293	€ 66533.83
16	SCOTT Adam	AUS	+13	70	74	77	72	293	€ 66533.83
19	HANSEN Anders	DEN	+14	78	68	74	74	294	€ 47267.18
19	HAVRET Grégory	FRA	+14	71	75	77	71	294	€ 47267.18
19	IMMELMAN Trevor	RSA	+14	74	74	73	73	294	€ 47267.18
19	JACOBSON Fredrik	SWE	+14	71	72	79	72	294	€ 47267.18
19	LOVE III Davis	USA	+14	75	74	70	75	294	€ 47267.18
19	MCDOWELL Graeme	NIR	+14	69	73	80	72	294	€ 47267.18
19	MEDIATE Rocco	USA	+14	69	73	76	76	294	€ 47267.18
19	MICKELSON Phil	USA	+14	79	68	76	71	294	€ 47267.18
19	NOREN Alexander	SWE	+14	72	70	75	77	294	€ 47267.18
19	SHERREARD (AM) Thomas	ENG	+14	77	69	76	72	294
19	VAN DE VELDE Jean	FRA	+14	73	71	80	70	294	€ 47267.18
19	WAKEFIELD Simon	ENG	+14	71	74	70	79	294	€ 47267.18
19	WARING Paul	ENG	+14	73	74	76	71	294	€ 47267.18

2007

Pos	Name	Country	To Par	R1	R2	R3	R4	Total	Prize Money
1	HARRINGTON Padraig	IRL	-7	69	73	68	67	277	€ 1106617.50
2	GARCIA Sergio	ESP	-7	65	71	68	73	277	€ 663970.50
3	ROMERO Andres	ARG	-6	71	70	70	67	278	€ 427892.10
4	ELS Ernie	RSA	-5	72	70	68	69	279	€ 295098.00
4	GREEN Richard	AUS	-5	72	73	70	64	279	€ 295098.00
6	CINK Stewart	USA	-4	69	73	68	70	280	€ 214683.80
6	MAHAN Hunter	USA	-4	73	73	69	65	280	€ 214683.80
8	CHOI K J	KOR	-3	69	69	72	71	281	€ 139802.68
8	CURTIS Ben	USA	-3	72	74	70	65	281	€ 139802.68
8	STRICKER Steve	USA	-3	71	72	64	74	281	€ 139802.68
8	WEIR Mike	CAN	-3	71	68	72	70	281	€ 139802.68
12	BRIER Markus	AUT	-2	68	75	70	69	282	€ 86421.56
12	BROADHURST Paul	ENG	-2	71	71	68	72	282	€ 86421.56
12	EDBERG Pelle	SWE	-2	72	73	67	70	282	€ 86421.56
12	FURYK Jim	USA	-2	70	70	71	71	282	€ 86421.56
12	JIMÉNEZ Miguel Angel	ESP	-2	69	70	72	71	282	€ 86421.56
12	ROSE Justin	ENG	-2	75	70	67	70	282	€ 86421.56
12	WOODS Tiger	USA	-2	69	74	69	70	282	€ 86421.56
19	MCGINLEY Paul	IRL	-1	67	75	68	73	283	€ 67872.54
20	BEEM Rich	USA	Par	70	73	69	72	284	€ 61970.58
20	JOHNSON Zach	USA	Par	73	73	68	70	284	€ 61970.58
20	PEREZ Pat	USA	Par	73	70	71	70	284	€ 61970.58

2006

Pos	Name	Country	To Par	R1	R2	R3	R4	Total	Prize Money
1	WOODS Tiger	USA	-18	67	65	71	67	270	€ 1045965.60
2	DIMARCO Chris	USA	-16	70	65	69	68	272	€ 624673.90
3	ELS Ernie	RSA	-13	68	65	71	71	275	€ 399500.75
4	FURYK Jim	USA	-12	68	71	66	71	276	€ 305073.30
5	GARCIA Sergio	ESP	-11	68	71	65	73	277	€ 231710.44
5	TANIHARA Hideto	JPN	-11	72	68	66	71	277	€ 231710.44
7	CABRERA Angel	ARG	-10	71	68	66	73	278	€ 185949.44
8	PETTERSSON Carl	SWE	-9	68	72	70	69	279	€ 138493.59
8	ROMERO Andres	ARG	-9	70	70	68	71	279	€ 138493.59
8	SCOTT Adam	AUS	-9	68	69	70	72	279	€ 138493.59
11	CRANE Ben	USA	-8	68	71	71	70	280	€ 100722.61
11	HO S K	KOR	-8	68	73	69	70	280	€ 100722.61
11	WALL Anthony	ENG	-8	67	73	71	69	280	€ 100722.61
14	GOOSEN Retief	RSA	-7	70	66	72	73	281	€ 82079.25
14	O'HAIR Sean	USA	-7	69	73	72	67	281	€ 82079.25
16	ALLENBY Robert	AUS	-6	69	70	69	74	282	€ 65372.85
16	ILONEN Mikko	FIN	-6	68	69	73	72	282	€ 65372.85
16	LONARD Peter	AUS	-6	71	69	68	74	282	€ 65372.85
16	OGILVY Geoff	AUS	-6	71	69	70	72	282	€ 65372.85
16	ROCK Robert	ENG	-6	69	69	73	71	282	€ 65372.85
16	RUMFORD Brett	AUS	-6	68	71	72	71	282	€ 65372.85

2005

Pos	Name	Country	To Par	R1	R2	R3	R4	Total	Prize Money
1	WOODS Tiger	USA	-14	66	67	71	70	274	€ 1047362.00
2	MONTGOMERIE Colin	SCO	-9	71	66	70	72	279	€ 625508.10
3	COUPLES Fred	USA	-8	68	71	73	68	280	€ 352757.50
3	OLAZÁBAL José Maria	ESP	-8	68	70	68	74	280	€ 352757.50
5	CAMPBELL Michael	NZL	-7	69	72	68	72	281	€ 177712.20
5	GARCIA Sergio	ESP	-7	70	69	69	73	281	€ 177712.20
5	GOOSEN Retief	RSA	-7	68	73	66	74	281	€ 177712.20
5	LANGER Bernhard	GER	-7	71	69	70	71	281	€ 177712.20
5	OGILVY Geoff	AUS	-7	71	74	67	69	281	€ 177712.20
5	SINGH Vijay	FIJ	-7	69	69	71	72	281	€ 177712.20
11	FALDO Sir Nick	ENG	-6	74	69	70	69	282	€ 97099.22
11	MCDOWELL Graeme	NIR	-6	69	72	74	67	282	€ 97099.22
11	PERRY Kenny	USA	-6	71	71	68	72	282	€ 97099.22
11	POULTER Ian	ENG	-6	70	72	71	69	282	€ 97099.22
15	CLARKE Darren	NIR	-5	73	70	67	73	283	€ 67330.44
15	DALY John	USA	-5	71	69	70	73	283	€ 67330.44
15	FROST David	RSA	-5	77	65	72	69	283	€ 67330.44
15	HENSBY Mark	AUS	-5	67	77	69	70	283	€ 67330.44
15	IMMELMAN Trevor	RSA	-5	68	70	73	72	283	€ 67330.44
15	O'HAIR Sean	USA	-5	73	67	70	73	283	€ 67330.44
15	O'HERN Nick	AUS	-5	73	69	71	70	283	€ 67330.44
15	SALTMAN Lloyd	SCO	-5	73	71	68	71	283

[wichuda]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Brandt Snedeker @ av 300 as my number one pick, cannot be long before this guy picks up a major and has just come back to where he was over a year ago and has the game to play any course well. Hunter Mahan @ av 36.0 is the shortest priced player i have done in the hope he can get off to a good start. Type of player who could if everything went right end up winning it by 10 shots. Sean O' Hair @ av 95.0 accuracy and putting are generally the 2 things you need at an Open and he has both so worth a chance. 2 others for smaller stakes are Charlie Hoffman & Steve Marino

[kevshat]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship 4 for me. I'm sure Woods will hit a slightly bigger price in running but I'm away this weekend for the Khan fight so I'll take him now. 5pts T.Woods to win The Open 13/5 Betfred Tiger Woods has won this great tournament on 3 occasions and he has 4 other top 10's to his name so despite him not playing much links golf he's ultra consistent in this event. He's one of very few in the competition who can get round this course without hitting too many drivers although if he drives it like he did at Memorial then the rest needn't turn up. Woods' best characteristic is his course management while his putting is top notch as well. Even if he puts it in the rough here he's got all the power needed to cope. He's not been out of the top 10 since he returned from injury and he looks as good as ever so I'll take him to win his 4th Open Championship this week. 1pt ew L.Westwood to win The Open 25/1 Boylesports (1/4 1-8) Lee Westwood has played some lovely golf in the last 18 months or so. He came so close to winning the US Open last year but I don't think it's long before he pins a major. He was bang in contention in the US Open this year until a poor final round cost him. He played some good golf at Loch Lomond last week despite not being physically on form. That came off the back of a good week in France where he lost a playoff to Martin Kaymer. Westwood's record in the Open doesn't match his undoubted ability but I think he's at a good place in his game now and I think he'll be right in the mix on Sunday. 1pt ew S.O'Hair to win The Open 66/1 Boylesports (1/4 1-8) Sean O'Hair's having a top notch year on the PGA Tour having rattled up over $3m already. That's come via 5 top 10's and his win in the Wachovia Championship and he's steadily turning himself into one of the more consistent golfers around. His Open record isn't too shabby either with a couple of top 15's in 2005 and 2006. He's a good ball striker who doesn't have a clear weakness in his game and at a decent price I think he could go very well this week. 1pt ew A.Romero to win The Open 110/1 Boylesports (1/4 1-8) Andres Romero is another with a decent Open record having finished 8th and 3rd in 2006 and 2007 and even his 32nd place last year isn't the worst finish. He's got no form to speak of coming in here but if the conditions get a bit tough then this guy is one who can cope. Links golf seems to bring the best out of him and that's not totally surprising given the imagination in the Argentinian's game. He's a big price with his record in this event and if something sparks his game into life he could feature at the top end this weekend.

[bowles10]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Top 3 are normally decent players especially in last 4 years. Strange to see 2 doubles on the trot with Woods & Harrington both winning the last 4 events. Here is a stat to think about: 1970 Nicklaus* (won it in '66) 1971 Trevino 1972 Trevino* 1973 Weiskopf 1974 Player*(won it in '68) 1975 Watson 1976 Miller 1977 Watson* 1978 Nicklaus* 1979 Seve 1980 Watson* 1981 Rogers 1982 Watson* 1983 Watson* 1984 Seve* 1985 Lyle 1986 Norman 1987 Faldo 1988 Seve* 1989 Calcavecchia 1990 Faldo* 1991 Baker Finch 1992 Faldo* 1993 Norman* 1994 Price 1995 Daly 1996 Lehman 1997 Leonard 1998 O'Meara 1999 Lawrie 2000 Woods 2001 Duval 2002 Els 2003 Curtis 2004 Hamilton 2005 Woods* 2006 Woods* 2007 Harrington 2008 Harrington* Snce 1970, 16 players have won this major again. This is some comfort to those listed above in bold who are playing tomorrow. Those players account for 23 of the last 38 Opens. For those oldies thinking they can win it again, the longest "gap" is Seve with a 9 year gap from 79 to 88, 8 years with Watson winning it first in 75 & again in 83. Greg Norman had a 7 year gap 86-93. So, Woods would be equally that record if he wins this year with his 1st win 9 years ago. So lets discount anyone below year 2000, we have Woods, Harrington, Hamilton, Curtis, Els, Duval fighting it out to win this major again. Will be interesting to see how this stat goes??

[bowles10]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Miguel Angel Jimenez Outright 150/1 Tote 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) W/O woods 100/1 Tote 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) 1st round leader 100/1 Bet365 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) Been looking through his stats & he has hit his lowest stroke average since 2005. His putting is the best since 2003, & Driving accuracy best since 2005 also. H eis ranked 31st this on European tour after 16 events. Last year he finished the year ranked 4th after 2 wins on the tour. He has missed 3 cuts in 16 events this year. Highest position was 4th in the BMW Championships. Justin Rose Outright 150/1 Ladbrokes 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) W/O woods 100/1 Bet365 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) 1st round leader 80/1 Tote 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) Currently ranked 48th on the European tour after a shaky start to this season, however has only entered 7 events due to his time in America. Was Euro tour winner in 2007 with over £2m banked. His best finish on Euro tour was in the Dubai Desert Classic when 2nd at -18. His stroke average is good & better than 4 of the last 8 years. His GIR is the best it has been in his career which will be crucial round Turnberry. He looks overpriced due to the fact he is out of form but more than capable of putting together a good score. Paul McGinley 1st round leader 175/1 Bet365 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (1pt EW) I tipped up McGinley 2 years ago when he was pipped by Garcia on day 1 to be the leader. He played well last week at Loch Lomond opening with a 1st round 65. Looking at his 1st round scores this season, they read 65-72-68-68-70-73. On all occasions, his 1st round was his best score showing he is quick out the blocks. Padraig Harrington W/O Woods 22/1 Paddy Power (2pts win) After winning the last 2 Opens, could he make it a 3rd? I doubt it but i will cover a bet in the w/o Woods market just in case. He has the links game, the attitude for the conditions & can play under pressure. He can hole putts which is essential also. Ernie Els W/O Woods 28/1 Paddy Power (2pts win) In the same market, Ernie has a record in the last 4 Opens of 7-4-3-0 finishing position. His game is suited to this type of golf & if he keeps it on the fairway this week, he has a chance of going under par. 3 good rounds last week in Scotland would have done his confidence the world of good. Justin Leonard W/O Woods 80/1 Tote 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) 1st round leader 80/1 Tote 1-2-3-4-5 1/4 odds (0.5pts EW) Former winner Leonard is still young enough for this type of game. He relishes a challenge & is pumped up when he starts hitting birdies. Has a very direct game & can be under par for the week. Also capable of at least 1 good round & hopefully its the 1st round! Good Luck all:ok

[Cramer]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship OK I don't know much about Golf but love big event and can watch hours on TV! Plus Golf can back big price and get big return! Oh yes!

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open outright
Selection	Tiger Woods
Strength	10/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	>Paddy Power @ 3.60 (Back)
Reasoning	I love Tiger Woods! Up with Roger Federer he is one of the best sportsmen ever! Now Roger has more majors, time for Tiger to hit back! After injury he holds no majors, surely this will change! Since injury some weeks he looks very good, some weeks a bit average. Putting hasn't been too strong. But I think he has now had a while back and could hit top form! His course management is excellent and he can hit incredible recovery shots. Price looks short but it's Tiger Woods!

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top American w/o Woods
Selection	Hunter Mahan E/W (1/4, 1-4) (Each-Way)
Strength	5/10
Date	15/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	Stan James @ 9.00 (Back)
Reasoning	I like Hunter Mahan, when he plays well he makes a lot of birdies. I was surprised last year when he did very well in Ryder Cup, showing he can play well in pressure match! He had played OK in The Open in the past. He looks in good form and I think he can win this market!

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top Englishman
Selection	Lee Westwood E/W (1/4, 1-5) (Each-Way)
Strength	10/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	>Boylesports @ 5.00 (Back)
Reasoning	This looks like nice price on Lee Westwood to be top Englishman (not including Irish). Westwood is very strong player, especially hitting good irons which could be important this week. He has some strong results in majors and I think he can go close! He is in good form recently and I prefer him to other favourites in this market like Poulter and Casey.

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top 25 finish
Selection	Bryan Gay
Strength	10/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	>Paddy Power @ 4.50 (Back)
Reasoning	I think Bryan Gay is very under rated player. He is very accurate and solid player. He plays good golf in USA this year and maybe can make a good performance here. I think this price is reasonable and worth betting!

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top 10 finish (including ties)
Selection	Padraig Harrington
Strength	10/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	Sportingbet @ 4.50 (Back)
Reasoning	Soon maybe this looks like crazy big price! Harrington in bad form but record at the Open is excellent. Maybe tough rainy conditions and this surely brings out the best in him! He won small Irish tournament easily, standard may not be high but he might get some confidence! I think top 10 finish for him is possible!

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top South African
Selection	Charl Schwartzel E/W (1/5, 1-3) (Each-Way)
Strength	3/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	>Paddy Power @ 15.00 (Back)
Reasoning	Charl Schwartzel is very talented player! Not so great record at the Open but he hits the ball so nicely maybe he can do something. Plus, especially in the market maybe good chance to win. Favourites are Goosen and Els but neither of these are convincing to me so I go for some value!

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top 20 finish
Selection	Graeme McDowell
Strength	10/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	>Paddy Power @ 3.50 (Back)
Reasoning	Graeme McDowell very strong player, especially in links golf! I think he can have very strong well and finish in top 20. Form is pretty good and he has had some solid results in the majors.

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top 20 finish
Selection	Chris Wood
Strength	5/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	Stan James @ 10.00 (Back)
Reasoning	Chris wood got excellent result at the Open last year and maybe can do well again this year! He looks so suited to links golf and after good time last year he should be confident and have lot of support! I really like this young player and he can have another good week!

Sport	Golf
Event	The Open Top 20 finish
Selection	Stephen Ames
Strength	5/10
Date	19/07/2009
Bookmaker/Price	Stan James @ 5.50 (Back)
Reasoning	Stephen Ames is very interesting player. He is good in the wind and has solid record of finishing near the top. Maybe no good for the win but in this market I like his chances!

[chasing losses]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship I am by no means a golf expert, this tournament reminds me of the grand national IE its great to have some fun and pick a load of bets to make it more interesting. You are probably not going to come out a winner but it might be a decent ride along the way. However its a nightmare for punters like me who tend to back favourites in other sports with bigger stakes. I would not back Tiger at those short odds with such a large field of quality players. The kind of bet that does look inviting though is something like Tiger & sergio to make the cut at 1/16 & 1/5 respectively IE £200 on gives you a return of £255. So you effectively 'buy' some stake to gamble on the tournament after the cut when many riders have fallen (some unexpected) and you have had time to look at people's form on the course with the weather conditions. that's my thinking at this stage, not everyone's cup of tea- but good luck all.

[leespam]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship 5 for me to keep an eye on this weekend. Not a great deal of golf knowledge but looked at last 3 tournament finishes, Scrambling and Fairway hit %'s. Awarded 3 if in top third, 2 in middle third etc. and then ruled out any player with a low-scoring 1 in there. These are the top 5 it spewed out: 1.5pt E/W Jim Furyk @ 30/1 Stan James 1/4 6 places 1.5pt E/W Ian Poulter @ 30/1 Paddy Power 1/4 7 places 1pt E/W Steve Stricker @ 50/1 Paddy Power 1/4 7 places 0.5pt E/W Kenny Perry @ 60/1 Stan James 1/4 6 places 0.5pt E/W Lucas Glover @ 110/1 Stan James 1/4 6 places A lot of people will no doubt already know, but if you're not familiar with betting on Golf watch out for Dead Heat rules. You may pick up a place at fancy prices come Sunday, but if there's a large tie in the first 5/6/7/8 you might also get a hefty division of your stake :(. GL all :hope :ok

[WoodyTHFC]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

I'm not going to get into an arguement with you. You're not worth it, especially when the person my advice was directed to has no problem with it. That leads me to wonder what it actually had to do with you. You see giving advice is what this forum is all about but as you pointed out elsewhere, I'm sure you'll just do as you like. My mind is pretty much summed up right now by a quote that was made by another forum member on another thread, the 'truth is Kevshat isnt big enough to admit whenever he is wrong!' I think it sums up things pretty well. Every single time Kevshat has to be right, no matter what the situation is. I can admit at times that I get things wrong yet Kevshat seems incapable of doing so. Instead the line taken now by him is that I'm not getting into an argument even though he was the one who started the whole process. Not just with the original comment but also the way he took aim at my first post when I hadnt even mentioned one name. Plus I like the way he starts claiming his statement of, ‘Don't back Michael Campbell’ is now all of sudden 'advice,' it sounded more of an order to me. Also what is with the insults to me and sometimes personal ones which I thought was banned around here. Suddenly 'I'm not worth it' and I have already been told previously by Kevshat in another thread, to Stick to your pathetic comments and seemingly selfish persona and "doing what you like." And that's from a moderator as well.

[meatman]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship thought you said you weren't going to have any 'direct' contact with that certain individual again? I think your making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill here. I mean Woodie wasn't offended by the comment was he? and yeh I do think that Kev meant it as 'advice' I think its time we put 'rivalries' aside here, dont stir up a hornets nest and get on with the golf

[kevshat]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

thought you said you weren't going to have any 'direct' contact with that certain individual again? I think your making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill here. I mean Woodie wasn't offended by the comment was he? and yeh I do think that Kev meant it as 'advice' I think its time we put 'rivalries' aside here, dont stir up a hornets nest and get on with the golf

:hope :ok. Hopefully the advice was helpful as Campbell is currently +7 through 16 holes. Hopefully Westwood can see his good start into the clubhouse and I'll be very happy. Going to add some 3-balls as we go throughout the day. 1st one........ 3pts S.Kjeldsen to beat B.Gay/N.Faldo 6/5 Ladbrokes Match tees off at 12.25 BST. Soren Kjeldsen is playing some pretty nice stuff at the minute too and is turning himself into an excellent golfer. Brian Gay has a very good result in America recently too which makes this an interesting 3ball. In fact Gay wasn't that bad at Loch Lomond last week either. I think it's fair to say we can take Faldo out of this equation. He plays very little golf these days to be competitive in this. So I've got this down as a match between two in form golfers but I like Kjeldsen and I think his game is more suited to these conditions than the American and so I'll take him to win this 3-ball.

[bowles10]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship we already have some at -4 in the clubhouse, -5 or -6 may take this 1st day leader prize? The last Open at Turnberry was a very low score something like -18 for the winner, so unless the weather changes a bit, we may find the winning total around -10? McGinley to bt Petterson/Daly @ 8/5 Corals Lehman to bt Toms/Gross @ 12/5 Corals 2pt double

[kevshat]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship A couple more for this afternoon. I'm hoping the wind blows a bit. 3pts KJ.Choi to beat Z.Johnson & C.Montgomerie 2/1 Ladbrokes Match tees off at 13.20 BST. KJ Choi is a solid golfer and I like his chances in this match up. Colin Montgomerie's record in majors isn't what it should be and his recent record hasn't been too great. To make matters worse Sandy Lyle has raised a storm in a teacup which could occupy Monty's mind. Zach Johnson is a very solid golfer on the US Tour where he reached a high of winning the Masters but he's not one I have down as likely to do much in a links event as it's not really his game. KJ Choi should like the conditions and he's done well in this event in the past. 2/1's a decent price on a very good golfer and I'll take the Korean to win this matchup. 3pts A.Cabrera to beat P.Casey & R.Imada 9/5 Paddy Power Match tees off at 14.09 BST. I like Angel Cabrera's chances this week. I'm a bit unsure if he can win because he's not the kind of bloke who strikes me as winning 2 majors in the year but he can definitely be competitive and I like his chances in this group today. Cabrera's a big hitter with a decent enough short game for links golf. Imada is having a decent season on the PGA Tour with a couple of good finishes but I'm not sure he'll go that well in these conditions. I'm not a Paul Casey fan despite his lofty world ranking and with conditions encouraging good scoring I think Cabrera can win this match at a fair price.

[jackierubberleg]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship Ogilvy's attitude stinks. he had a double on 6 and spat the dummy out big time. Just had another double after he couldn't be arsed to look for his ball.....UNBELIEVABLE. sympathise with anyone who has money on him. layers dream. Has a face on him like the world owes him a living to boot!:spank

[friskyfitz]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship :loon Just one birdie on the 18th for M.A Jimenez could put Bowles in line for a 100/1 payout... :hope:hope:hope Not watching live but had a few I/R bets and currently David Smail is doing o.k for a 600/1 shot!

[bowles10]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

:loon Just one birdie on the 18th for M.A Jimenez could put Bowles in line for a 100/1 payout... :hope:hope:hope Not watching live but had a few I/R bets and currently David Smail is doing o.k for a 600/1 shot!

he rolled in a 22yd putt for that birdie :nana not counting my chickens yet as a few still on the course also. Betfair go 1.33 on the lay side now, so had a little of that in case something weird happens now!

[friskyfitz]

Re: Golf: The Open Championship

he rolled in a 22yd putt for that birdie :nana not counting my chickens yet as a few still on the course also. Betfair go 1.33 on the lay side now, so had a little of that in case something weird happens now!

:clap:clap:clap:clap Fantastic mate - Like I said Im on a laptop refreshing PGA. COM like mad.. Hope it holds out...