Zilzalian Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 When its shit racing i have a mess about this is todays mess about... although i must admit i also had £50 quid on balsamand which lost. LEE-GRAYS and BBBC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Zilzalian said: What do you think of this lads? I used to do one of these every Saturday and it used to drive the local WH settlers mad ? Was that a Union Jack used to do them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said: Was that a Union Jack used to do them Union jack was 3 x 3 grid 8 bets (trebles) at its simplest. 32 bets 8 x (trixies) and 56 bets 8 x patents. LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Gan canny and get yersel doon the Toon tha morra All Newcastle 1510 Oh Herberts Reign 14/1 (extra place bet365 and sky) 1545 Ventura Express 20/1 1620 The Gatekeeper 11/1 1650 Thrave 16/1 (extra place sky only) 1pt ew lucky 15 and 2.5pt ew acca = 35 pts Posting now but think some of the prices may be better in the morning. LEE-GRAYS, MCLARKE and Zilzalian 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 8 hours ago, BBBC said: Posting now but think some of the prices may be better in the morning That didnt age very well ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 16 hours ago, Zilzalian said: What do you think of this lads? I used to do one of these every Saturday and it used to drive the local WH settlers mad ? I am going to post one on the Monday for Cheltenham i think it will be interesting to see If anyone else can come up with 16 gg's for the 4 days, @MCLARKE @LEE-GRAYS @BBBC LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Picking winners out down the allotments with me little helpers ? Zilzalian, BBBC and MCLARKE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 @Zilzalian@BBBC @MCLARKE what would you do in this situation help ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said: @Zilzalian@BBBC @MCLARKE what would you do in this situation help ?? Let it ride till the first 3 win and then come back …. LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, LEE-GRAYS said: @Zilzalian@BBBC @MCLARKE what would you do in this situation help ?? they are offering you 3 nrs. if you are desperate for money cash it out (but too late now lol) just let it ride like BBBC says if first 3 win it needs thought but until then let it ride believe me i have been in this situation many times and the percentage call is to leave it be, you only needed 1 more winner to make that co look pathetic. and even if you dont get another winner you will return 14 quid so 11 quid profit. you happily except 4 losers most days so why even let this trouble you? if that winner was your last runner and the others had lost you know you would have been buzzing. Edited March 2, 2023 by Zilzalian LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 17 hours ago, BBBC said: Gan canny and get yersel doon the Toon tha morra All Newcastle 1510 Oh Herberts Reign 14/1 (extra place bet365 and sky) 1545 Ventura Express 20/1 1620 The Gatekeeper 11/1 1650 Thrave 16/1 (extra place sky only) 1pt ew lucky 15 and 2.5pt ew acca = 35 pts Posting now but think some of the prices may be better in the morning. 1 winner, 1 place. Ventura needed the extra place Thrave rubbish Money back ish. LEE-GRAYS and Zilzalian 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Been messing about again lads LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, LEE-GRAYS said: Picking winners out down the allotments with me little helpers ? I had 500 of them fookers once, they spent all day undoing my shoelaces the moral of the story dont wear red shoelaces they look like worms. Edited March 2, 2023 by Zilzalian LEE-GRAYS, MCLARKE and Nigwilliam 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 My latest cautious selections Pays £661.06 LEE-GRAYS and BBBC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 15 hours ago, Zilzalian said: Been messing about again lads So @LEE-GRAYS had Musicality as plus @Zilzalian. What about you @MCLARKE? I had a small dabble in the morning but then had a bit more at 30.0 on the exchange aa i couldn't resist. I don't do forecasts but I had a saver on Jupiter Express before i had seen anyone else's comments. We got some weird group think thing going on? Zilzalian and LEE-GRAYS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBC Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 And yes I wish I had put it in the lucky15 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, BBBC said: So @LEE-GRAYS had Musicality as plus @Zilzalian. What about you @MCLARKE? I had a small dabble in the morning but then had a bit more at 30.0 on the exchange aa i couldn't resist. I don't do forecasts but I had a saver on Jupiter Express before i had seen anyone else's comments. We got some weird group think thing going on? But is it a winning one ?? BBBC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said: But is it a winning one ?? Didn't have anything in that race. My basic methodology is to back horses that others don't, it's the only way to find value. I've backed others on here before but it's always ended in tears ! Nigwilliam and harry_rag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said: But is it a winning one ?? Well i notice my twinnie greys has mostallim in one of his bets as i do, the other day we had the same 3 in a lucky 15 in france all big prices. As for Muscika well for me it was the most interesting race of the day i sat pondering why muscika's price was so big given its recent (and past) form so i did the figures and on the previous encounter where Jupiter express came out on top it was reasonable to assume where one finished the other would be very close to it so at 150/1 the forecast i thought that will do for me. little financial risk to a good return yes we can all say "i should have had more on" but that always applies to losers as well so you have to make a decision, at the end of the day it was a handicap after all and we all know you can run them 10 times and get 10 different results so it was all about value and 150/1 really was value all things considered.and i have always said it is hard work when doing figures so why just use them to identify the winner and ignore the forecast or even the tricast all that work should be maximised in my opinion. and in the past i have done very well out of this thinking, consider this i can either get the big one, winner, forecast and tricast and because i reverse everything to smaller stakes my win bet can lose but i can still get the forecast and or tricast. BBBC, LEE-GRAYS and MCLARKE 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LEE-GRAYS Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Well i notice my twinnie greys has mostallim in one of his bets as i do, the other day we had the same 3 in a lucky 15 in france all big prices. As for Muscika well for me it was the most interesting race of the day i sat pondering why muscika's price was so big given its recent (and past) form so i did the figures and on the previous encounter where Jupiter express came out on top it was reasonable to assume where one finished the other would be very close to it so at 150/1 the forecast i thought that will do for me. little financial risk to a good return yes we can all say "i should have had more on" but that always applies to losers as well so you have to make a decision, at the end of the day it was a handicap after all and we all know you can run them 10 times and get 10 different results so it was all about value and 150/1 really was value all things considered.and i have always said it is hard work when doing figures so why just use them to identify the winner and ignore the forecast or even the tricast all that work should be maximised in my opinion. and in the past i have done very well out of this thinking, consider this i can either get the big one, winner, forecast and tricast and because i reverse everything to smaller stakes my win bet can lose but i can still get the forecast and or tricast. Thought you would have had dodgy murtagh ex nag in the 8.00 we have backed it before half nutz ? Zilzalian and BBBC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_rag Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: My basic methodology is to back horses that others don't, it's the only way to find value. Well it’s certainly a good way and one that you do well by specialising in but I guess that others do well by focusing more on horses that the bookies have badly underestimated. But I agree you’re more likely to find value betting on things others aren’t keen on. With that in mind you really want to try spread betting because I guarantee you you’ll find bets that “no-one” wants to bet to an extent that is unparalleled in fixed odds markets, and value to match. If people don’t like, say, risking £100 to win £30 on a 1/3 shot they’re not going to like selling Rashford’s goal minutes at 30 to win a maximum of £30 but with a potential downside of £300 or more. I don’t get the impression that you’re a dyed in the wool “Sport of Kings” fan. Given your willingness to bet on other sports, make shrewd use of free bets/offers and take risks with investing I think it would be right up your alley. MCLARKE, LEE-GRAYS and BBBC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Look at the value here aberama gold now 6/1 ostillio now 16/1 mostallim now 16/1. knowing what the prices should be is the key to success because you are getting the value win lose or draw. The cash out is in profit without even a runner. Multiply this stake by 10 and you have made £11.70 totally risk free and Clarkey would/might quite rightly point out that you should cash it out. LEE-GRAYS and BBBC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BBBC said: And yes I wish I had put it in the lucky15 ... Yes and that eejit Grays @LEE-GRAYS should have had it (muscika 20/1 at the time) with his 66/1 shot seeing as he has done so well out of it in the past so he needs a hefty slap around the swede. LEE-GRAYS and BBBC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Yes and that eejit Grays @LEE-GRAYS should have had it (muscika 20/1 at the time) with his 66/1 shot seeing as he has done so well out of it in the past so he needs a hefty slap around the swede. My heads swimming in horses never know the best ones to put together should done a Union Jack ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, harry_rag said: I don’t get the impression that you’re a dyed in the wool “Sport of Kings” fan. Given your willingness to bet on other sports, make shrewd use of free bets/offers and take risks with investing I think it would be right up your alley. Cheers Harry, I have dabbled on footie but I'm conscious that there is only so much time available and I like to thoroughly research any method I use. I did make some money betting on the outsiders in premier league matches, it's surprising how often the unexpected happens. I had the advantage of being able to access several year's results beforehand. I may revisit this. My main source of income is the stock market and I need to spend more time on that really as my "system" isn't performing at the moment, after making big profits for 8 years out of 9 I have lost money each of the last 3 years. harry_rag, LEE-GRAYS and BBBC 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Clarkey would/might quite rightly point out that you should cash it out. To quote Ian Paisley "NEVER, NEVER, NEVER" !!! LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 All right chaps I take it it’s me Sunday so I will start studying now ?? MCLARKE and Zilzalian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said: All right chaps I take it it’s me Sunday so I will start studying now ?? Sort the turnips out first and get plucking one of those chickens. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Sort the turnips out first and get plucking one of those chickens. ? Got bit the old lamb tagine tonight local essex dish ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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