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My rules didn't work for me last week but I'll persevere.

RH_DateAndTime Horse
18/02/2022 16:45  Muhalhel
18/02/2022 16:45  My Brother Mike
18/02/2022 16:45  Custard The Dragon
18/02/2022 17:15  Soi Dao
18/02/2022 19:45  Straitouttacompton
18/02/2022 19:45  Maharashtra
18/02/2022 20:15  Ask Peter
18/02/2022 20:15  Art Expert

 

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Date		Leg	Time	Num	Selections				Stall	Runners	Length
12/02/2022	1	17:00	6,5,2	Louis Treize, San Juan, Cool Spirit	10,3,2	11	5f
12/02/2022	2	17:30	3	Desert Lime				3	3	5f
12/02/2022	3	18:00	3,4	Caroline Dale, Digital			4,6	6	5f
12/02/2022	4	18:30	3,7	Kitten's Dream, Batocchi		7,12	12	1m6f
12/02/2022	5	19:00	3,4	Roamin In Gloamin,Sid's Annie		6,1	6	1m
12/02/2022	6	19:30	8	Lady Lou				4	8	7f

24-line Placepot, Prize Fund: £77,139

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2 hours ago, gbettle said:
Date		Leg	Time	Num	Selections				Stall	Runners	Length
12/02/2022	1	17:00	6,5,2	Louis Treize, San Juan, Cool Spirit	10,3,2	11	5f
12/02/2022	2	17:30	3	Desert Lime				3	3	5f
12/02/2022	3	18:00	3,4	Caroline Dale, Digital			4,6	6	5f
12/02/2022	4	18:30	3,7	Kitten's Dream, Batocchi		7,12	12	1m6f
12/02/2022	5	19:00	3,4	Roamin In Gloamin,Sid's Annie		6,1	6	1m
12/02/2022	6	19:30	8	Lady Lou				4	8	7f

24-line Placepot, Prize Fund: £77,139

Final Prize Fund: £81,830

Dividend of £28.70 to a £1 stake

2-winning lines:

2022-02-22 southwell placepot.jpg

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12 hours ago, Wildgarden said:

lets roll out printing machine bsp as usual.

1252 southwell enderman, trevie fountain narrow 2nd

, sovereign moon 

127 magic gem narrow 2nd.

312 tipperary tiger, patsy fagan or shallow hal narrow 2nd 

 

 

no good some unlucky hits had the bias gone lol -7 ;-(

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As suspected, the advantage seems to have quickly gone.

The AE figures for draws 4 to 9 are

December 1.23

January 1.06

February 0.95

My criteria of ignoring races below 7 furlongs still looks to have an advantage with an AE in Ferbruary of 1.18. Indeed it may be worth tightening this criteria as for 8 furlongs there were 19 runners and no winners.

The criteria of selecting those that had finished in the 1st 4 was effective with an AE of 1.39. For those not in the 1st 4 there was 1 winner from 33 runners.

However the criteria of only selecting the 1st 4 in the betting was not effective with an AE of 1.00, those forecast 5 to 7 had an AE of 2.11.

Those drawn 8 and 9 had 0 winners from 13 winners.

So for March (1st meeting tomorrow) my criteria will be :-

Draw 4 - 7

Distance 9f +

FPLR 1-4

 

 

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28 minutes ago, MCLARKE said:

As suspected, the advantage seems to have quickly gone.

The AE figures for draws 4 to 9 are

December 1.23

January 1.06

February 0.95

My criteria of ignoring races below 7 furlongs still looks to have an advantage with an AE in Ferbruary of 1.18. Indeed it may be worth tightening this criteria as for 8 furlongs there were 19 runners and no winners.

The criteria of selecting those that had finished in the 1st 4 was effective with an AE of 1.39. For those not in the 1st 4 there was 1 winner from 33 runners.

However the criteria of only selecting the 1st 4 in the betting was not effective with an AE of 1.00, those forecast 5 to 7 had an AE of 2.11.

Those drawn 8 and 9 had 0 winners from 13 winners.

So for March (1st meeting tomorrow) my criteria will be :-

Draw 4 - 7

Distance 9f +

FPLR 1-4

 

 

Many thanks @MCLARKE

Sorry, but what does FPLR mean?

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53 minutes ago, alexcaruso808 said:

Why do you think the bias has disappeared @MCLARKE

I often wonder why the Hong Kong tracks don't do anything to make the draw bias less in their races. 

Or Chester .

Barry Hills from stall 1 or 2 in a sprint was license to print money.

I went to last Thursday's meeting & just stuck to in form trainers & local trainers who use the course to work their horses Dixon / Furtado , had ok start but we left an hour earlier than planned because it was freezing .

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1 hour ago, alexcaruso808 said:

Why do you think the bias has disappeared @MCLARKE

I often wonder why the Hong Kong tracks don't do anything to make the draw bias less in their races. 

A number of reasons.

Jockeys may now know the best part of the course to run on so they will aim for that no matter which draw they have.

Punters have cottoned on to it so the prices will reduce.

Alterations have been made to the turf treatment.

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34 minutes ago, calva decoy said:

Or Chester .

Barry Hills from stall 1 or 2 in a sprint was license to print money.

Long since gone I'm afraid. The AE for stall 1 over the last few years has fallen to 0.92

I went to Chester a few years ago and a few of my non racing mates said they were going to back stall 1 because that horse had less distance to travel. I tried to explain that you need to find the horse that offers the best value rather than the horse that is most likely to win. This fell on deaf ears. I suppose that's why the rest of us still have a slim chance to make money.

A few years ago stalls 3 and 4 became profitable but that edge has also now gone.

 

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