richard-westwood Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Will just be concentrating on one or 2 high value races each day this year given the uncertainty of form fitness etc Buckingham palace hcap Green side 228 Kaeso 227 Hey jonesy 225 Glenshiel 224 24 runners surprisingly so huge value on offer .....kaeso looks a strong contender ...conditions will suit and oisin on board ...negative is central draw but lads offering 8/1 ....6/1 in places so I don't think that price will hold so currently value Glenshiel I think is far better on all weather and doesn't look particularly well hcapped so omitted Green side looks well treated ...might have preferred a touch of rain but generally runs well on most grounds and drawn high which is a big advantage so very good value at 16/1 Hey jonesy hasn't won for 2 years but kind of lost his way last year but showed some very decent form on rare occasions and has dropped as a result to a very lenient mark .....dark horse but at 25/1 still looks good value especially drawn high with green side..... Let's roll the dice and have a shot at a decent win Kaeso 10pts win 8/1 lads Green side 10pts win 16/1 lads Hey jonesy 10pts win 25/1 bet365 6x1pt rev forecasts yossa6133 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Ratings for Day 1 Some big EW bets!! 115: Documenting EW 25/1 bet365 150: Billesdon Brook EW 20/1 betvictor 225: West End Girl EW 25/1 Ladbrokes 300: Mogul 5/6 bet365 335: Battash 8/11 betvictor 410: Agincourt EW 40/1 bet365 440: Dubawi Fifty EW 12/1 bet365 richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Usually my biggest bets during Royal Ascot week come on the jumps, usually something turn up at Ffos Las that looks good however the only jumps action I will be looking at is in Australia with 4 jumps races at Ballarat in the early hours where a St Leger 2nd makes his hurdles debut. Race 1 (2.45am) 1st division of the maiden hurdles and I thought there were 4 in with a chance. American In Paris won on the flat in April, but has been poor in two runs since. Has looked good in trials, but the horse who finished in front of him has been poor since so not sure the trial form can be trusted. Holburt beat Savvy Ken in his first trial, but then looked laboured behind him a couple of weeks later when only 5th. Hi jumped OK in those trials and did win a BM58 on the level last time. Usually up with the pace on the flat. Hoof Hustler has had two trials and won them both including having Sir Issac Newton in behind on the first of them. Last time he beat San Remo and he won a maiden hurdle on his next start so he looks promising here. Steam Roller has been 3rd twice over hurdles and was way too far back last time where horses were finding it really hard to make up ground in really testing conditions. With a better ride on better ground he can go close here. Just going to mention Savvy Ken who does need a horse to come out to get a run as he is 2nd in the betting. He dropped away very tamely on his hurdles debut and he is surely better than that, but it's enough to put me off if he does get a run. For me I will split my stakes between Hoof Hustler and Steam Roller who look the best priced out of the main contenders. Hoof Hustler @ 5/1 with Betfair Steam Roller @ 11/2 with Betfair Race 2 (3.25am) Ventura Storm finished 2nd in the 2016 St Leger, has won a couple of decent races in Australia and run in a couple of Melbourne Cups. He does seem to have lost his way of late though so connections are trying him over hurdles to see if that brings him back to life. I was impressed with how he trialled and he looks a good jumper although they were both slowly run and this should be run at a quicker tempo. He clearly is the best flat horse and has a great chance of winning, but I prefer to take a couple e/w against him given his odds on price. Hierarchal has finished 2nd in both hurdles starts and has done nothing wrong so far. It is hard to see him not being involved again. I am also going to back Crafty Lion for the 3rd time. He placed at big odds for me two starts back and then fell when still going well last time. I can't resist backing him again at another big price. I must admit that I didn't really fancy Infinite Reign or First Crush despite their single figure quotes so I might be missing something, but they aren't for me. Yulong Emperor makes some sort of appeal at big odds given he was 2nd last time and although beat 12L it was a big step up from his hurdles debut. Hierarchal e/w @ 15/2 with Betfred Crafty Lion e/w @ 16/1 with Betfred Race 3 (4.05am) Sadly the non-runners have ruined this as I really fancied Runaway, but he's now 4/6. 2nd to Gobstopper in the Galleywood and the Australian Hurdle are a cut above the level the rest of these have shown. He trialled well last week as well. Glorious Sinndar started life with George Margarson back in 2013 and showed little in 3 maidens. He then went to Germany before finding himself over in Australia. He is 3/3 over hurdles winning twice in 2016 and then again in 2018. His last run was in June 2018 before March this year when he was 2nd which was a good effort, but he has been poor since. Slowpoke Rodriguez is the only other one in single figures, but he's not run over hurdles since 2016 and was well behind Runaway in the trail last week. This is Runaway's to lose in my view although at the price it's a no bet race. Race 4 (4.50am) I like Flying Agent in this contest as he makes his jumping debut. Now Michelin does get a weight pull here having finished 2nd to Flying Agent over hurdles last time, but they ran in the same steeple trial as each other and I was way more impressed with Flying Agent. He jumped really well and coasted home in 3rd place. Michelin wasn't bad by any means and wasn't worked over hard either, but I think Flying Agent can continue to build on that win last time and looks the value to me. Scholarly has jumped pretty poorly in two steeple trials and he isn't great over hurdles either. I'm surprised they are going chasing with him. Markwood is solid, but just can't see out his races regardless of trip. My Kings Counsel never looked likely last time but had trialled well before that. Flying Agent @ 11/4 with Betfred blueboy199 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 meetings in total Best bets at the meetings away from Ascot 100 Th: High Peak 8/11 bet365 815 Ch: Lillypad 2/1 bet365 550 Th: Sudona 100/30 bet365 700 Wn: Count Otto 5/1 bet365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 10pt trixie @ B365 40pts staked Ignore the above Ended up not putting the trixie on as expected wins is only around 1.02 so more logical to do 3 singles and take a small hit if the expected 1 winner happens. So 3 boosted singles on Ladcrooks 50pts staked WHO TOLD JO JO 15.86pts @ 3.10 BONUS 20.48pts @ 2.40 BEAT THE BREEZE 13.66pts @ 3.60 1 winner small loss of 0.85pts Edited June 16, 2020 by Valiant Thor changed bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Hi there slight profit thank good for bog 2 50/1 places races 5 any 7 +£0.50 overall profit +£22.10 after 179 races windsor 5.00 go Greta 8/1 5.30 Attlee 14/1 6.00 hot hot hot 14/1 6.30 Firenze rose 20/1 7.00 major valentine 40/1 7.30 alnaseem 8/1 8.00 valentine mist 12/1 8.30 deft 8/1 all bets 25p e/w good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I'm skipping Ascot for my all aged handicaps .......had a look at the first race and there's far too many qualifiers, Still, lots of races at the other meetings.... Thirsk 2.40 The Bog House 3/1 4.50 Quanah 7/2, Gullane One 15/2 5.20 Klopp 12/1 EW, The Defiant 25/1 EW 5.50 Euro Implosion 12/1 EW, Firtinfeu 16/1 EW Chelm 4.00 Our Man In Havana 3/1, Terri Rules 12/1 EW 5.10 Dreamboat Annie 16/1 EW 5.40 Irish Times 7/2 6.45 Compass Point 10/3, Billie Beane 13/2 7.15 Apache Blaze 11/1 EW 8.15 Que Quieres 10/3 Wind 6.30 True Belief 3/1, Fashionesque 7/1 7.30 Lethal Missile 7/2, Alnaseem 8/1 8.00 Guardiola 16/1 EW prices bet365 bog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old codger Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Good morning all My next selection 225 Ascot Frankly Darling 1pt win hills 6/4 bog Expect this to go on and be a strong fancy for the Oaks Current bank 110.1 W7 L3 Easy winner and as predicted now a serious fancy for the Oaks Start bank 100 W8 L3 Ongoing Bank 111.6 Edited June 16, 2020 by Old codger Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathtime For Rupert Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1.15 - 1pt e/w Keyser Soze @ 14/1 PP Need a bit of luck with this one as often slowly away and will need to come through late but down to a good mark, conditions are bang on, will get a good pace to run at and wasn't in bad form when last seen. Seasoned performer and no issues with a large field. 1.50 - 1pt e/w Mustashry @ 14/1 PP Not the easiest of races to assess but I'll give a chance to Mustashry - certainly more exposed than most but has proven class and his win in the Lockinge last year was impressive and made him an 11/2 shot for this race 12 months ago. Ran a bit flat that day but I don't think they went off at a great pace and he found a bit of trouble when the race quickened, stayed on reasonably well to the line and subsequently travelled well in the Eclipse before fading late on. The mile suits best and should get a good gallop today with Marie's Diamond in the field, so worth chancing with the form in the book. 2.25 - 2pts win Miss Yoda @ 6/1 Bet365 Fav could be anything but on the form in the book think she's too short. Miss Yoda won the Oaks trial at Lingfield despite being upset in the stalls, being short of room and taking a keen hold - they didn't go quickly that day but she will absolutely relish conditions so long as there's a faster pace on today. Strong finishing type who if settling better today will be there at the finish. Beat Berkshire Rocco last season who was a decent 2nd to Derby fancy English King in the Derby trial this year. 3.00 - 2pts win Mohican Heights @ 9/2 Bet365 Fav might win but I can't take evens about a horse racing half a mile further than ever before. Mohican Heights is also stepping up in trip but is a backable price and is open to improvement - comfortably beat a decent yardstick last time out over a mile and this one is bred to love middle distances so can continue to progress today. 3.35 - 0.5pts e/w Sergei Prokoviev @ 28/1 Bet365 Not a hugely confident selection as has lost his way a bit - Battaash probably wins because there might not be anything good enough to outstay him but at the same time, memories of him not quite seeing it out the past couple of years is enough to take him on. Wouldn't be throwing this one into any multiples but has had a pipe opener for this and conditions suit so with a good pace could stay on from the rear to potentially grab a place. 4.10 - 2pts win Nazeef @ 7/2 Bet365 On a formline through Billesdon Brook, this one has a big shout here, comfortably seeing that one off last time out when a couple of other fancied rivals have been beaten by that one last season. Hugely progressive type, the quicker they go the better for him today. Conditions absolutely fine and John Gosden yard going well. 4.40 - 1pt e/w Smart Champion @ 12/1 Bet365 I think this one may well be the strongest stayer in the field, which clearly helps in a 2m4f marathon! Ran some good races last season including over the Cesarewitch trip at Newmarket and will see this out no problem. Not off a bad mark, decent draw but will need a bit of luck in running as he doesn't do anything quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpunter Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Todays selections - Ascot 1.15 Cliffs Of Capri 20/1ew Ascot 4.40 Verdana Blue 5/1ew Ascot 4.40 San Benedeto 28/1ew Thirsk 2.40 The Big House 11/4 Thirsk 4.50 Gullane One 15/2ew Thirsk 5.20 Excessable 9/1ew Thirsk 5.20 Gameson 12/1ew Windsor 6.30 True Beleif 11/4 Windsor 6.30 Porto Ferro 28/1ew Windsor 7.00 Yimou 7/1ew Windsor 7.00 Ice Age 8/1ew Windsor 7.30 Lethal Missile 7/2 Windsor 7.30 Wind In My Sails 16/1ew Chelmsford 4.00 Seneca Chief 11/4 Chelmsford 5.10 Deeds Not Words 15/2ew Chelmsford 5.10 Poppy May 15/2ew Chelmsford 5.40 Irish Times 4/1ew Chelmsford 6.45 Sharp Operator 4/1ew Chelmsford 6.45 Arlecchino’s Leap 20/1ew Chelmsford 7.15 Pioneering 6/4 Chelmsford 7.15 Lady Of York 3/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black rabbit Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 hey jonesy 1 15 ascot 1/4 pt ew 40/1 betfair roseman 1 50 ascot 1/2 pt win 17/1 betfair san benedeto 4 40 ascot 1/4 pt ew 32/1 betfair P/L account = + 125 pt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I don't like the look of Royal Ascot today. Too many short priced favourites and some times too many runners. I have had a small punt without much enthusiasm. 2.25 Asc West End Girl 50p at 22/1 2.25 Asc Pyledriver 50p at 14/1 3.35 Asc Glass Slippers £1 at 9/2 3.35 Asc Shades Of Blue 25p at 33/1 4.10 Asc Jubiloso £2 win at 11/4 4.10 Asc Magic Lily 50p at 11/1 1.30 Thirsk Kilig £2 at 7/2 1.30 Thirsk Our Dave 50p at 11/1 1.30 Thirsk The Red Witch £1 15/2 2.40 Thirsk The Big House £2 at 11/4 2.40 Thirsk Destroyer £1 at 11/2 4.00 Chelm Seneca Chief £2 at 11/4 4.00 Chelm Terri Rules 50p at 12/1 5.40 Chelm Irish Times £1 at 4/1 8.45 Chelm Mr Fox £2 at 5/2 8.45 Chelm Sindarella £1 at 8/1 = £17.75 Total Singles stakes 1.30 Thirsk Kilig 7/2 4.00 Chelm Seneca Chief 11/4 8.45 Chelm Mr Fox 11/4 £ 1 win Trixie = £4 staked poss return of £111.09 All selections bombed yesterday so a £4 loss on multiples = £614.29 C/Fwd & a £3.50 loss on singles = £358.65 C/Fwd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpete Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1.50 fox chairman 13/2 2.25 miss yoda 6/1 3.00 aarthurs kingdom 9/2 3.35 glass slippers 5/1 Little lucky 15. Opposing the favourites good luck everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 23 hours ago, Valiant Thor said: 10pt trixie @ B365 40pts staked Ignore the above Ended up not putting the trixie on as expected wins is only around 1.02 so more logical to do 3 singles and take a small hit if the expected 1 winner happens. So 3 boosted singles on Ladcrooks 50pts staked WHO TOLD JO JO 15.86pts @ 3.10 BONUS 20.48pts @ 2.40 BEAT THE BREEZE 13.66pts @ 3.60 1 winner small loss of 0.85pts Bad day at Blackrock -50pts WHO TOLD JO JO 2nd BONUS ? BEAT THE BREEZE ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Trotter said: I'm skipping Ascot for my all aged handicaps .......had a look at the first race and there's far too many qualifiers, Still, lots of races at the other meetings.... Thirsk 2.40 The Bog House 3/1 4.50 Quanah 7/2, Gullane One 15/2 5.20 Klopp 12/1 EW, The Defiant 25/1 EW 5.50 Euro Implosion 12/1 EW (PLACED) , Firtinfeu 16/1 EW Chelm 4.00 Our Man In Havana 3/1, Terri Rules 12/1 EW 5.10 Dreamboat Annie 16/1 EW 5.40 Irish Times 7/2 6.45 Compass Point 10/3, Billie Beane 13/2 7.15 Apache Blaze 11/1 EW 8.15 Que Quieres 10/3 Wind 6.30 True Belief 3/1, Fashionesque 7/1 (WON) 7.30 Lethal Missile 7/2 (WON 5/1) , Alnaseem 8/1 8.00 Guardiola 16/1 EW prices bet365 bog not so good today ..... Windsor put in a late boost with 7/1 and 5/1 winners but a losing day overall with 20 selections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpunter Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Ascot 1.15 Cliffs Of Capri 20/1ew---------4th 20/1 Ascot 4.40 Verdana Blue 5/1ew---------2nd 4/1 Ascot 4.40 San Benedeto 28/1ew---------lost Thirsk 2.40 The Big House 11/4----------lost Thirsk 4.50 Gullane One 15/2ew--------lost Thirsk 5.20 Excessable 9/1ew--------lost Thirsk 5.20 Gameson 12/1ew--------lost Windsor 6.30 True Belief 11/4----------lost Windsor 6.30 Porto Ferro 28/1ew--------4th 25/1 Windsor 7.00 Yimou 7/1ew--------lost Windsor 7.00 Ice Age 8/1ew--------lost Windsor 7.30 Lethal Missile 7/2----------1st 7/2 Windsor 7.30 Wind In My Sails 16/1ew--------lost Chelmsford 4.00 Seneca Chief 11/4---------1st 6/4 fav Chelmsford 5.10 Deeds Not Words 15/2ew-------lost Chelmsford 5.10 Poppy May 15/2ew-------3rd 9/2 Chelmsford 5.40 Irish Times 4/1ew-------lost Chelmsford 6.45 Sharp Operator 4/1ew-------lost Chelmsford 6.45 Arlecchino’s Leap 20/1ew-------lost Chelmsford 7.15 Pioneering 6/4---------2nd 11/10 fav Chelmsford 7.15 Lady Of York 3/1---------1st 16/5 Very nearly broke even - onwards and upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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