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Horse Racing Punter Of The Year @richard-westwood Poker Player Of The Year @LIKE2FISH @ian309 Other Sports Punter Of The Year -@MinellaWorksop Tennis Punter Of The Year @four-leaf Football Punter Of The Year @yossa6133 Punters Lounge Avatar Of The Year @MinellaWorksop System Of The Year @ralphie7 Newcomer Of The Year @CakeCakeCake Mentor Of The Year @Zilzalian Punters Lounge Most Valuable Member @richard-westwood Congratulations to all. Please PM me your jumper size and male/female required. Thank you to everybody who nominated members and all those who voted. Much appreciated.22 points
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Punters Lounge Oscar - 2024 Winners
StevieDay1983 and 19 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
Wow ....I'm flattered and humbled.....I bet most weeks for fun so sharing ratings and discussing races is easy and most enjoyable ,....being on the forum gives me the opportunity to test myself and sets me the challenge of growing and improving and I've definitely grown and the ratings have got stronger since I first joined in 2017 ????.... lol .....there are many worthy punters on here and I really enjoy reading everyone's opinions and there are some very skillful people on here which makes getting this award all🎁🎁🎁 the more flattering so thankyou 😁😁 I'll try and post a pic in my forum jumper at the next family get together or outing over Xmas haha 😂20 points -
Hello Punters Lounge members, We wanted to take this opportunity to wish you and your loved ones a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! As 2024 draws to a close, it gives us a chance to reflect on what has been a very positive year for the Punters Lounge Forum. This year, several changes have been implemented to the forum. The restructuring of the forum itself was the biggest noticeable alteration with a more streamlined layout of the topic areas improving the navigation experience for you all. Adding @Torque as a moderator has boosted our efforts to improve engagement across the forum. Alongside @harry_rag, the two veteran members have created, encouraged, and moderated content across many areas which has benefited the site as a whole. A Responsible Gambling forum has been added as we have looked to offer a safe space for people who feel they want to talk about any gambling-related issues they may have. It has already played a role in allowing that to happen. New members can now take advantage of a more helpful 'Introduce Yourself' section that includes an FAQ section and Forum Guidelines. If you aren’t sure where to start with Punters Lounge then head on over to that area. The forum has celebrated the return of the PL Oscars. Congratulations to the legendary @richard-westwood for being voted the Forum MVP! A special shout-out to all those who won their respective categories and were also nominated. We want to give a big thank you to everyone who played their part and voted. This calendar year also saw many winners earn fantastic prizes across our different forum competitions including Football Tipster, Last Man Standing, Fantasy Football League, and NAP of the Day. Finally, we would like to thank every one of you for your continued involvement in making this forum the best online betting community in the world. This site is nothing without you all and we hope that over the next 12 months, we can continue to work hard to provide you with a brilliant place where you can come to post your bets, share your tips, and make friends. Bring on 2025! Season’s greetings from all of us at Punters Lounge!16 points
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Punters Lounge Oscar - 2024 Winners
StevieDay1983 and 14 others reacted to Zilzalian for a topic
No one can argue with @richard-westwood winning punter of the year so well done to the chef and all the other winners. Thank you to all those winners and all those that voted. winning a PL jumper beats getting a pair of socks for Xmas by the proverbial country mile. Honoured is me. 😊☺️15 points -
Punters Lounge Oscar - 2024 Winners
StevieDay1983 and 13 others reacted to yossa6133 for a topic
That is amazing 😊 thanks to anyone that voted for me and well done to all the winners and all the admin for keeping the site running so smoothly and all their excellent contributions14 points -
Racing chat-saturday 14th December
Bang on and 11 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
Been up to my eyeballs in Xmas party organising and huge deliveries etc so haven't had much chance to rate but I've finally got a chance 😁..... December gold cup Ga law. 667 total 1307 13/2 Stage star. 649 total 1289 7/1 Fugitif. 642 total 1279 Hard to separate these three as each has it's merits but ga law has run well in these types of races so should run well and stage star represents nicholls who's doing well in these big races so dangerous .......wouldn't put anyone off fugitif though ....very competitive race 5 PT Ew ga and stage12 points -
Punters Lounge Oscar - 2024 Winners
StevieDay1983 and 11 others reacted to MinellaWorksop for a topic
I can only echo what others have said on here, in that many thanks to all who nominated and voted for me. A humbling and pleasant surprise indeed. There are so many wise posters, friendly folk and excellent banter on here that it is always a pleasure to visit these pages. Big shout out as well to all the mods and admins who make Punters Lounge the excellent place it is.12 points -
Punters Lounge Oscar - 2024 Winners
StevieDay1983 and 10 others reacted to calva decoy for a topic
Don't be flattered & humbled , you put a lot of work in ( well your computer does ) to post your tips & with great success most of the time , well done & keep on keeping on 👏11 points -
Racing Chat - Friday 13th December
Fellcrawler and 10 others reacted to Zilzalian for a topic
Here is a question for you racing punters out there and the analysists. Why would a French trainer bring a horse over to England (not cheap) to run in a handicap 3 stone out of that handicap? 150 Cheltenham Izino D'airy 100/1 needs thinking about. I for one have chucked a few quid on at that price I have backed worse options this year. Is it not supposed to finish the proverbial street behind. will be interesting to see whatever happens.11 points -
Today's selections... 12.40 Cheltenham Haiti Couleurs 11/2 1pt win & Destroytheevidence 15/2 1pt win 12.55 Doncaster No Risk With Lou 5/2 (price boost) 2pt win 13.13 Cheltenham Theonewedreamof 5/1 2pt win 13.50 Cheltenham Madara 7/2 3pt win 14.40 Doncaster West Balboa 9/4 4pt win (Antepost) - now a general 1/2 14.47 Fairyhouse Liberated Light 13/2 2pt win (888) 15.08 Newcastle Little Roger 12/1 1pt e/w (Ladbrokes - 3 places) 17pts staked. Good luck if you follow 🏇🤝🏽💷11 points
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We're not allowed to vote for admins or mods but just want to give a big shout-out to @Fader, @CzechPunter, @Darren, @harry_rag for all their efforts, input, time and predictions.. (sorry if I missed out some, it's either I don't go on those parts of the forum or either my goldfish brain has a memory block).. also wanted to mention our never forgotten our lost one @BillyHills who was always an amazing admin!! Most Valuable Punter @richard-westwood Master Mentor especially hard not to vote for admins on this one!! @LEE-GRAYS Football Punter Of The Year @yossa6133 Horse Racing Punter Of The Year @richard-westwood @Villa Chris @Zilzalian Tennis Punter Of The Year @four-leaf @neilovan Thank you not just to the ones I nominated but to each and every one of you who contributes to the forum with their insights, predictions and information. Win or lose, grateful and appreciate you all. It's also nice to keep on learning new things and seeing people's different opinions on different sports and players. Thank you and wish you all an early Merry Christmas and a Joyful, Blessed 2025. @four-leaf @neilovan11 points
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Most Valuable Punter - @richard-westwoodMaster Mentor - Newcomer Of The Year - @CakeCakeCake @RobskiSystem Of The Year - @JdsGooner90 @SkittleAvatar Of The Year - n/aFootball Punter Of The Year - @yossa6133 @freddie01 @monty63 @StephenR91Horse Racing Punter Of The Year - @richard-westwood @Villa Chris @Robski @ZilzalianTennis Punter Of The Year - @four-leaf @neilovanOther Sports Punter Of The Year - @PercyP @MinellaWorksop @ThunderDan9 @CakeCakeCake @bymatrix @StrikerPoker Player of the Year - n/a It's been a bit of a struggle to be honest, should have kept a little black book throughout the year! Apologies to anyone I've inadvertently slighted, I'm sure there are other people who've steered me onto a decent bet or angle over the year! Big shouts to @Torque and @MCLARKE who would have made a few of the slots had they not been mod/admin.11 points
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Racing chat-saturday 23rd November
MinellaWorksop and 10 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
115 hay Kamsinas. 1013 6/1 Anyharmasking 1013 16/1 Joss the boss 1001 13/2 Top two Ew are my interest ....especially anyharmasking who has value bet status 5 PT Ew both11 points -
Racing chat-saturday 21st December
Bedlam and 9 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
335 ascot Favour and fortune 246 total 578 11/1 Our champ. 240 total 574 20/1 Kabral du mathan 236 total 567 5/2 Steel ally. 233 total. 560 11/1 Seems lots of value Ew in top two ....I'll try 5pt Ew both 😀...forecasts all 410 points -
Racing Chat- Thursday 19th December 2024
Hotspur88 and 9 others reacted to WEIGHTWATCHER for a topic
Morning all. Obviously really pleased with yesterday's three from three effort (winners at 6/4, 5/2 and 13/2) so have decided it's extra poppadoms time with this Friday's ruby murray. LOL. Joking aside, win or lose any day we just go again so these are my selections for today with brief additional summary: Exeter 1.55 PACHACUTI e/w @ 13/2 (B365) 4 places Ffos Las 2.07 THE SCORPION KING @ 7/2 (general) (rev. f/cst with Haut Folin) Exeter 3.05 IMPERIAL JOE e/w @ 7/1 (general) 5 places SUMMARY: Pachacuti in off joint bottom weight may go well, The Scorpion King narrowly over Haut Folin (pulled up 8 times in 21 runs, including last two on heavy ground) who is respected. Imperial Joe though taking on younger horses and inexperienced amateur jock on board looks on a decent enough mark to me and one of young amateur's two wins came on this horse. Have made updates on ANTE POST SELECTIONS page where Olly Murphy has done me no favours for the weekend. Cheers Olly. Good luck to all today. Give those bookies hell!10 points -
Punters Lounge Oscar - 2024 Winners
avongirl and 9 others reacted to CakeCakeCake for a topic
Thanks to everyone that nominated and voted for me! Congratulations to all of the nominees and the winners. It’s great to see such a wide range of nominees and winners! I’ve been a visitor of the Punters Longue forums for many years and only just recently registered and started to contribute. And I’m totally humbled and chuffed to have been nominated and voted for. I’ve visited many sports and betting forums over the last 20 years and I have found that Punters Longue stands out above the rest as a true community. The mods and admin are absolutely the best, the contributors are amazing and it’s great to see a true community spirit within the forums. Quite often on other forums, I’ve seen upmanship, trolling, over zealous mods, accounts that are set up to shill their own services and many more which take away from building a community. Thanks to everyone who adds or has ever added a little something to this site - wheather it’s comments, picks, strategy, moderating, admin or upvoting!10 points -
Racing chat-saturday 14th December
Bang on and 9 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
335 chelt Take no chances. 540 total 1101 Endless escape. 527 total 1094 Royal Margaux. 517 total 1088 Joyeuse. 515 total 1080 Joyeuse is 5/2...but looks very poor value to me .....top two are priced 7/1 and 12/1 so I'll play them..5pt ewboth....and doubles top 2 both races10 points -
Few selections today... Still very frustrated Aintree is abandoned as Richmond Lake was very well supported and wanted bottomless ground so I was very confident that would have been a very nice bet at 11/2 antepost. Anyway, to today's racing... 1.15 Sandown West To The Bridge 6/1 2pt win 1.23 Wetherby Latenightrumble 7/1 2pt win Antepost selection... 3.35 Sandown Mr Vango 11/2 2pt win 6pts staked 💷🤝🏽🏇 Good luck if you follow 🙂10 points
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Racing chat-saturday 23rd November
Robski and 9 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
205 ascot Fortescue 1210 9/1 Duke of deception. 1201 9/1 Oliver travels 1193 5 PT Ew top 2 ......10 points -
Racing Chat- Friday 20th December
yossa6133 and 8 others reacted to Villa Chris for a topic
12.45 Ascot Whatsupwithyou 48.65 25/1 Bet356 Champagne Twist 48.45 7/2 Irish Hill 47.1 17/2 3rd Im going to start a profit/loss record as a few other on here are too so bit of fun eh. 2.50 EW = 5.00 on top rated paying 4 places9 points -
Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
Brahmin and 8 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
Coral gold cup Sam brown (if runs) ..1115 25/1 Victorrino. 1110 13/2 Kandoo kid. 1100 Colonel harry. 1100 I asked my friends to look at this race and everyone came up with a diff horse lol 😂.....so the computer has had a go ......Sam brown is the value bet if runs here( ran bravemansgame to a length and if that one was entered for this he would be like 5/2 fav) but is entered for another race too ......victorrino looks an ideal type and Venetia is holding a 33% s r recently .....colonel harry is dangerous if he gets the distance ...questionable ......I'm Def backing victorrino 5pt Ew ....I'll wait on Sam brown to see if runs .....if not I might take a chance on colonel .....good luck if you play in this hard race 😁9 points -
Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
tonythepaint and 8 others reacted to black rabbit for a topic
Requested 3 00Nby 1/40th of a pt ew 40/1 { flaged up days ago} Sam Brown 3 00Nby 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1 Frero Banbou 3 20Nec 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1 -Won Anyharmasking 1 54Nby 1/40th of a pt ew 14/1 {punted few days ago} -4th Oh Betty 2 25Nby 1/40th of a pt ew 18/19 points -
Racing Chat - Friday 29th November
fd1972uk and 7 others reacted to Villa Chris for a topic
Newbury 2.30 Lord Baddesley 48.65 17/2 Le Patron 47.5 10/1 won Scarface 47.3 11/2 2nd Newbury 3.40 Chantry House 46.35 11/2 Hermino AA 40.8 6/1 won Lossiemouth mouth scored a high rating but has been off the track for 1066 days so left the horse out of this Doncaster 2.05 Mackenburg 49 11/1 3rd Guy 48.8 8/1 Onemorefortheroad 48.65 7/2 2nd Patent top rated in each race 50p a line = £3.50. Will play multi doubles all 3 races 30p a line = £3.608 points -
As ever thank you for all the work you put into this Mr Mc . Nice to be back in the winners enclosure after a period of finishing in mid div . Good luck everyone next month and beyond cheers8 points
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Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
Tedthewolf and 7 others reacted to black rabbit for a topic
"Frero" much deserved win for this warrior IMO always been with him for past few years { think i put him up on Zilzalian's horses to follow list couple year ago having seen him win at Leicester} not the most flashy of steeds but all heart and keeps punching so "dog and duck" "curry house" and take away from the cat house 😃 as i have early start tomorrow punting Brother Boris @ Leicester tomorrow + intresting to see how notebook horse Indeevar Blue preforms { but no value in been involved}8 points -
Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
The Equaliser and 7 others reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
Stats for the Coral Gold Cup (still called the Hennessey as far as I'm concerned) Caereer starts 15 - 18, 7 wins from 48 runners, LSP 41, remainder 4 from 156, LSP -58 This leaves HORANTZAU DAIRY at 12/1, 4 places Also passes the second test, forecast odds 5/1 to 10/1, 9 from 69, LSP 598 points -
Racing chat-saturday 23rd November
justanotherpunter and 7 others reacted to Hotspur88 for a topic
Mondamejj wins cosily to return 14pts 💥 8pts staked 14pts returned Daily P/L = +6pts Running P/L = +52.3pts8 points -
Racing chat friday 22nd November
Nigwilliam and 7 others reacted to Robski for a topic
Friday ratings. 12.55 ascot. Rare addition. 159.5/2. Riskintheground. 145.5/1. 2.05.grandads cottage. 153. 12/1Non runner. Milesfromwicklow. 153. 5/1. 2.40. Afadil.146. 7/1. Gin coco.139.13/2. 3.00 Catterick. Mr bells.136.5/1. Presantandcounting.124.2/1. 2.15. Chepstow. Donnacha. 145.13/2 Enjoy your life.133.16/1. 5.15 Southall. Equilateral. 114.6/1 Bergerac.111 3/1. All 2pts win,10/1 and over 1pt e.way. and 1/2pt r.fc.all races.8 points -
DECEMBER 2nd - 31st LUCKY 15 ALL WEATHER CHALLENGE.
The Equaliser and 6 others reacted to Zilzalian for a topic
There are 27 racing days in December the challenge is 1 x L15. Only L15's from UK and Irish (Dundalk) All Weather tracks allowed. Please post your screenshot and then edit it once you get the result within a day, even if no returns, if no edit, it could be assumed it was a loser. Use any stakes you want but for the purpose of the challenge the bet will be adjusted to 10p EW or 20p win. I will post a L15 based on a strict criteria ( revealed at month end) so that a reference can be made. Keep chat off this thread it makes my life easier. Tag me on the Normal L15 thread if any questions or observations. Good luck all. 1st place Massive Kudos, 2nd place Big Kudos 3rd place Kudos,7 points -
Racing chat-saturday 21st December
MCLARKE and 6 others reacted to black rabbit for a topic
Black Hawk Eagle 3 35Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 25/1 Gustav Graves 7 15Wv 1/40th of a pt ew 28/1 Beauport 2 25Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 28/1 Percussion 2 05Asc 1/40th of a pt ew 14/1 P/L +180.80pt7 points -
Few selections today... 15:40 Ascot Doctor Blue 14/1 1pt e/w 18:00 Wolves Kon Tiki 11/4 2pt win 19:00 Wolverhampton Parramount 13/8 2pt win 6pts staked 🏇💷🤝🏽7 points
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Racing Chat- Friday 20th December
yossa6133 and 6 others reacted to Systemight for a topic
A 6/1 winner yesterday for a 5 point Profit on the day.. Today's Picks: 11.45 Uttoxeter 3pts win Delgany Deadline 9/2 14.05 Uttoxeter 5pts win Pat's Dream 2/1 (free bet 2nd) 14.40 Uttoxeter 2pts win Lets Go Joe 11/2 Prices taken from Betfred(Bog) at 9.00 a.m Sel/Wins: 21/4 P/L: - 12.5 Pts7 points -
Racing Chat- Thursday 19th December 2024
The Equaliser and 6 others reacted to Systemight for a topic
No Joy yesterday (11 point loss). Credit where's credit due, there's been some excellent tipping on here in the last few days, so clearly i need to up my game 🙂 Today's Picks: 12.57 Ffos Las 2pts win Jalisco Star 6/1 (Betfred) 13.55 Exeter 2pts win Toss of a Coin 6.0 (Betfair Exchange) 14.30 Exeter 5pts win Issam 9/4 (Betfred) Prices taken at 10.45 a.m Sel/Wins: 18/3 P/L: -17.5 pts7 points -
Racing Chat-Monday 16th December 2024
The Equaliser and 6 others reacted to Systemight for a topic
A 7/2 Winner on Saturday for a 5 point profit, no bets yesterday.. Pick of the Morning Prices today.. 13.10 Plumpton 3pts win Dubrovnik Harry 10/3 12.52 Southwell 4pts win In The Age 3/1 14.52 Southwell 4pts win Easter Icon 3/1 15.22 Southwell 5pts win Magical Arthur 2/1 Prices are from Betfred(Bog) taken at 10.00 a.m Sel/Wins: 9/1 P/L: - 14 Pts7 points -
Punters Lounge Oscar - 2024 Winners
StevieDay1983 and 6 others reacted to tschurchy for a topic
Congratulations all! Very well deserved 👏7 points -
Stats for the gold cup (Cheltenham 1.50) Forecast 1st / 2nd favourite 0 from 27 Last ran 20 to 28 days ago 11 from 71, LSP 57 points, remainder 1 from 70, LSP -60 Career starts 17 to 36, 6 from 45, LSP 29 points This leaves GERIMANDE 10/1, GUARD YOUR DREAMS 18/1, GA LAW 8/1 and IL RIDITO (11/1) 4 places Weight 10st to 10st 10lb 6 from 49, LSP 30, this takes out GA LAW Wins in last 10 races 1 or 2, 8 from 65, LSP 26 This leaves GUARD YOUR DREAMS and IL RIDOTO7 points
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Racing Chat - Wednesday 11th December
justanotherpunter and 6 others reacted to Hotspur88 for a topic
Two for tomorrow... 3.20 Hexham Heeztheboy 17/2 2pt win & 6.40 Kempton Mr Baloo 13/2 2pt win 4pts staked.7 points -
Couple for tomorrow... 1.42 Uttoxeter Theatre Man 9/2 3pt win 3.12 Uttoxeter After Many Days 8/1 2pt win 5pts staked 🤝🏽💷🏇 Will edit if/when I add more but getting up now incase price starts moving.7 points
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Racing Chat - Tuesday 10th December
yossa6133 and 6 others reacted to tonythepaint for a topic
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Racing chat-saturday 7th December
justanotherpunter and 6 others reacted to Hotspur88 for a topic
Latenightrumble 💥💥💥💥 Lovely 7s winner and 16pts returned 🏇🤝🏽💷7 points -
Punters Lounge Oscars 2024 [Nominations In Here]
tschurchy and 6 others reacted to MinellaWorksop for a topic
Football Punter Of The Year - @Striker @Bang on @Mrjol. @freddie01 Most Valuable Punter - @richard-westwood Master Mentor - @bymatrix Newcomer Of The Year - @CakeCakeCake Horse Racing Punter Of The Year - @black rabbit @Brahmin @Alastair @Johnrobertson @Tedthewolf Other Sports Punter Of The Year - @CakeCakeCake @PercyP @fd1972uk @bymatrix @Zilzalian Avatar Of the Year - @HERE @Villa Chris @LEE-GRAYS @Mindfulness @yossa61337 points -
Site Logging me into other peoples accounts
Hotspur88 and 6 others reacted to Villa Chris for a topic
Hope no one seen the nudes I’ve been sending other members7 points -
Racing Chat - Monday 2nd December
justanotherpunter and 6 others reacted to Hotspur88 for a topic
I'll add more as there are a few more I like but putting this up now as price is going... 2.55 Plumpton Sullivan Bay 5/2 5pt MAX win 8.30 Wolves Sophosc 15/2 1.5pts e/w 8pts staked That's all for today.7 points -
BILLY HILLS NAP TABLE - November 2024
Wildgarden and 6 others reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
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Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
Brahmin and 6 others reacted to Villa Chris for a topic
Newbury 12.40 Le Milos 49 6/1 4th Inch House 48.65 13/2 Fidelio Vallis 46.65 20/1 Newbury 1.54 Anyharminasking 48.65 7/14th Impose Toi 47.3 3/1 won Lac De Constance 46.35 8/1 non runner Newbury 3.35 I’d Like To Know 49 14/1 Petit Tonnerre 48.65 9/2 Issar D’ Airy 44.05 5/2 Newcastle 3.20 Neon Moon 46.5 15/2 Bowtogreatness 46.35 6/1 Gustavian 44.6 13/2 Lucky 31 top rated in races above plus the Newbury Gold Cup which is a few posts up. 30p a line = £9.30 Ive done various doubles today on the first 3 races 12.40 / 1.54 / 3.00 . 50p a line = £6.00 Also had a couple of quid on Rebel Gold 6/1 in the 12.45 at Fairyhouse lost Good luck all7 points -
Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
Brahmin and 6 others reacted to Villa Chris for a topic
Coral Gold Cup Newbury 3.00 Midnight River 49 17/2 Sam Brown 48.8 22/1 Victorino 47.5 13/2 Galia Des Liteaux 47.5 17/27 points -
Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
The Equaliser and 6 others reacted to MCLARKE for a topic
Gerry Fielden Hurdle (Newbury 2.25) stats 1st last time out 2 from 33, LSP - 18 Career starts 7 to 20, 8 from 46, LSP 12, remainder 3 from 40, LSP -23 This leaves BALLEE at 20/1, 4 places7 points -
Racing chat-saturday 30th Nov
Brahmin and 6 others reacted to richard-westwood for a topic
Rehearsal chase Marble sands 1080 6/1 Kinondo kwetu. 1075 25/1 Jetplane. 1068 Black magic. 1067 There is a link between this and the above race .....marble sands destroyed colonel harry so if that one runs a good race it would Frank his chances .....question over distance like above race . Kinondo kwetu looks the value bet ....5 PT Ew top 27 points -
Racing chat-saturday 23rd November
justanotherpunter and 6 others reacted to Hotspur88 for a topic
Do you ever post your selections? I only see you mentioning the winners you've had so it confuses me as it looks like after-booming. Pleased you got the forecast but obviously no-one else would have 😅7 points -
Now that I know how the ELO ratings work, I have added them to my own selection process (1st attempt) to see if I can get ratings that do not rely upon opinion, bias. Top rated (using 4 different ratings) come out as follows. (365 odds for ease of posting) Birmingham (away) - (80pts) - 4/11 .. look the weekends Banker. Bolton (Home) - (76pts) - 17/20 Barnsley (Home) - (71pts) - 9/10 Doncaster (away) - (71pts) - Ev MK Dons (away) - 69pts) - 15/8 ------------------------------------------------- Others with good + ratings at decent prices are ... Burnley (away) - 6/4 Sheff Wed (Home) -Ev Wycombe (away) - 31/20 Port Vale (Home) - 4/5 *** This is a 1st attempt at rating using this formula so won't be going mad. *** Top teams (especially Premier) look quite good, but I am looking to find the strong but not so obvious with better odds.7 points