Jimmy2shoes Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Kirsty Milczarek gave Efistorm a peach of a ride and fully deserves a mention, very well done, she knew exactly what she was doing and where she was going. And Mr Spencer also deserves a mention as his ride on Rich Again was absolutely spot on BANG TIDY, the ride does not make him ''A Sir'' but he went straight back into my Christmas card list, he was stone last most of the 6f and was pumping away from a fair way out, full credit where credit is due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread With you on Milczarek, but Spencer's so inconsistent that I tend to overlook his rides and Rich Again did me out of a BANG TIDY L15 sum, as I was on Mey Blossom :cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_eastern_ram Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Normally like Graham Lee but his ride on Seeking Magic was woeful. I really dont understand what goes through jockeys minds when they bring their mount so wide of the bend at Lingfield, how are you ever going to win going that wide? Just f*cking drop in and go through the pack, it's an 8 runner race where there's no advantage of staying tight to the far rail so everything is gunna be fairly spread out after the bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Normally like Graham Lee but his ride on Seeking Magic was woeful. I really dont understand what goes through jockeys minds when they bring their mount so wide of the bend at Lingfield' date=' how are you ever going to win going that wide? Just f*cking drop in and go through the pack, it's an 8 runner race where there's no advantage of staying tight to the far rail so everything is gunna be fairly spread out after the bend.[/quote'] Fair point but some horses will not tolerate the kickback. P.s Always been a big fan of Seeking Magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_eastern_ram Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Fair point but some horses will not tolerate the kickback. P.s Always been a big fan of Seeking Magic. Possibly, probably his only reasonable excuse. Have been waiting for Seeking Magic to drop to 5f all year, no idea why they persisted over 6f when he refuses to settle. Was on at 4/1 yesterday, there's definitely a win in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedericoBTH Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread And Mr Spencer also deserves a mention as his ride on Rich Again was absolutely spot on BANG TIDY, the ride does not make him ''A Sir'' but he went straight back into my Christmas card list, he was stone last most of the 6f and was pumping away from a fair way out, full credit where credit is due. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Taken from Timeform. Hopefully someone might find it interesting... For those watching Channel 4's coverage of the Hennessy Gold Cup, the pre-race appearance of the injured Timmy Murphy is likely to have stirred emotions. Ruled out through the excruciating pain of two damaged vertebrae less than 24 hours earlier, Murphy still managed to offer his thoughts on the chances of The Package when in all reality he should have been laid up at home. It was a stark reminder of the sacrifices and risksprofessional jockeys take every time they leave the weighing room. Yet, despite the challenging and dangerous life over jumps in particular, jockeys often face fierce post-race criticism whether truly warranted or not. What is often forgotten is that a jockey isn't responsible for how well backed their rides are, nor should they be discriminated against for the quality of horse they are partnered with - in fact, it should reflect how much faith those to whom the horses fortunes matter most have in them. However, this is not to say that there aren't riders plying their trade on much less fancied horses who are capable of netting the same result. When evaluating a price about a horse, it can pay to have confidence that the adjustment for who is on board is fair. Even more valuable is the knowledge that compared to the average market view, a jockey is undervalued. Below are the top ten jump jockeys based on a combination of Market Value and pre-race Timeform ratings of their rides. * Market Value is expressed as the factor by which the % chance of a Betfair Starting Price exceeds random, as implied by field size. For example, a horse that is shorter than 4.0 in a 4 runner field will have a Market Value above 1. * Calculated for all jockeys with at least 100 runs over hurdles, chases or bumpers in the last 12 months, limited to their last 100 qualifying runs in each discipline. Please note that these are not seasonal ratings but a snapshot of current riding form. Using the Timeform jockey ratings introduced in an earlier article, three jockeys stand out as being significantly undervalued compared to those occupying the very top spots in terms of ensuring their mounts perform to expectation. For each, we disclose their Timeform jockey rating (as lbs above average), average Market Value as discussed earlier and the pre-race master rating of each qualifying mount. 3. Conor O'Farrell (Timeform Rating +3.96, Average Market Value: 1.67, Average Master Rating: 106.05) Highest Timeform Rated Horse Ridden In Qualifying Period:Dynaste 17/12/2012 The musical chairs resulting from the injury to Murphy, saw Tom Scudamore head to Newbury to take his rides and David Pipe's number two jockey fill in at Newcastle for a sole ride aboard Junior in the day's final race. Under top weight, O'Farrell confidently steered the former Festival winner to victory over the favourite, rewarding his employer's faith in the enforced reshuffle. Undoubtedly the highlight of O'Farrell's young career was the 2011 Pertemps Final win aboard Buena Vista, who, despite defending his title, was the stable's second string on the day. Although O'Farrell modestly described himself as being 'just a passenger' it verified that he is more than capable of ensuring horses deliver to expectation. 2. Wayne Hutchinson (Timeform Rating +4.17, Avg Market Value 1.69, Avg Master 109.23) Highest Timeform Rated Horse Ridden In Qualifying Period:Raya Star 03/11/2012 In all sports, the primary goal of a backup is to step in when needed as seamlessly as possible. Like O'Farrell, Hutchinson has proved himself on numerous occasions of being able to do just that, as judged by Timeform ratings. The primary example of the King number two stepping into the shoes of the injured Robert Thornton came on Festival Trials day at Cheltenham, where he rode a 267/1 treble following earlier successes in the Ladbroke Hurdle, Becher Chase and HBLB Handicap Chase. Although older than the other two jockeys in this list, Hutchinson still has plenty of time on his hands to deliver more silverware to Barbury Castle. 1. Bryan Cooper (Timeform Rating +5.53, Avg Market Value 1.77, Avg Master 112.96) Highest Timeform Rated Horse Ridden In Qualifying Period:First Lieutenant 01/12/2012 Our ratings suggest Bryan Cooper, just 20 years old and stable jockey to Dessie Hughes, could become one of the sport's biggest names over the next few years. Riding out his claim at just 19, the son of trainer Tom Cooper has already bagged some big race wins in Ireland as well as a big-price winner at the Cheltenham Open meeting and a fine spin aboard First Lieutenant in this year's Hennessy Gold Cup. Although he does feature in the above table, based on current data he is still well below where should be. Certainly when he has ridden in Britain he has not been at the forefront of the market. In 21 qualifying rides, his horses had a market value of just 0.92. However, with higher profile rides and shorter SPs comes increased expectation and the magnifying glass was well and truly on Cooper following defeat aboard long odds-on favourite Wingtips at Leopardstown last month. This was a rare example of the Kildare youngster being caught out tactically, but, with years of top level riding ahead, Bryan Cooper is heading the new generation of jump jockeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 James Millman rides his last race today. Ishe, in the 12:20 maiden. Only a 6 runner race. Could he go out on a win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who?me? Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread James Millman rides his last race today. Ishe' date=' in the 12:20 maiden. Only a 6 runner race. Could he go out on a win?[/quote'] Yes he did. Great way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Eddie Ahern. Naughty boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fintron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread James Millman rides his last race today. Ishe' date=' in the 12:20 maiden. Only a 6 runner race. Could he go out on a win?[/quote'] This is great news for punters, hopefully his dad will also do us all a favour and joing James in studying Law!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread 6 Charged. [h=1]Ahern among six charged by BHA[/h] http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/8342488/ahern-among-six-charged-by-bha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Cracking ride from DC in the Ladbroke, sole ride of the day, turns up rides a smasher gets paid then exits the building. They knew alright, yipp they knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erhaab1965 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Great to see Sam Waley Cohen and Long Run win another Gr1 king George, the jockey completing a double having won an earlier race. For some reason he's hated on here by some, give the kid a break , he's only an amateur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLL Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Hats off to Ruby, 2 amazing rides to get Back in Focus and Tidal Bay up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Hats off to Ruby' date=' 2 amazing rides to get Back in Focus and Tidal Bay up there.[/quote'] Add his earlier ride on semi Carolina and he got 3 horses up today in the closing stages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Willie Twiston-Davies is fairly booting them home on the AW. One to watch with his claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I think it's just because of his runners and not his own talent that he's winning. A win is a win though and his claim is definitely helping him. When it drops to 3 I think he'll struggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Jockey Thread Happy New year Sir Adam Kirby. http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/8374406/kirby-takes-lingfield-trio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread Adam Kirby is banging in winners for fun on the AW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread all hail sir adam kirby :notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread We Need you Sir Adam Kirby, enjoy the BBH Lanfranco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread can you bet on the all weather championship? I imagine he is the favourite but probably won't be too short? Luke Morris and Jim Crowley get their fair share of winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread can you bet on the all weather championship? I imagine he is the favourite but probably won't be too short? Luke Morris and Jim Crowley get their fair share of winners Can't see it listed anywhere, although Betfair probably do. Nearer to the end of the championship i'm sure the rest of the bookies will follow suit. Add Adam Kirby to that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodge Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread Kirby's doing a great job at the minute. I always look out for Jim Crowley though, particularly at Kempton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertob Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread Did Charles Bishop really want to win the race hands and heels or was he just to incompetent to ride forward while using his whip on Waabel in the 2.00 at Lingfield as he didn't use it at all!?! Can't believe this ride... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread Did Charles Bishop really want to win the race hands and heels or was he just to incompetent to ride forward while using his whip on Waabel in the 2.00 at Lingfield as he didn't use it at all!?! Can't believe this ride... Barely gets home that bugger - wouldn't put u off him next week if he can get anything like a decent draw.... At least u nicked some '10/1'. Don't know your staking but Bl Sq refunding if beaten by less then 1/2l in their series. I hope that includes 1/2l and u might get your win stake back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertob Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread Didn't back it with BSQ unfortunately but with Betfair so won't get my stake back. Just frustrating as it was a wonderful performance by Waabel actually and it would have been just good to know what would happen 'if' Bishop would have used all the tools he has... Anyway, what a brilliant ride by Paul Carberry in the Walsh National! Absolute unreal!!! :notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathtime For Rupert Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread Yeah superb. Backed the horse first time up this season when he unseated. Left him alone the last twice and he's won both. Just wasn't sure about his jumping as he can't have hit them when he wants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Re: The Jockey Thread Stunning ride Sir. Paul Carberry. http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/report/542802/carberrys-a-cool-dude [TABLE=class: tbl t3 mobile-collapse] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: mobile-hdn][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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