Gingers (Flat) Winners 08

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Thanks Kamo. Now the Bunbury Cup. Have not been through the race working out percentages but... I know one of the owners of this horse and he has told me in the past, this horse will do far better on a soft surface. Has run well on good-firm so far this season for his new trainer. 2:35 Newmarket £30 @ 11/1 Mastership

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 2:00 Newmarket £50 @ 7.8/1 Weald Park (17% 5/1) £25 @ 8.4/1 Shaweel (14% 6/1)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Will wait until late to have bets in the July Cup as ground conditions may change.

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 2:00 Very few of these have any form on a soft surface but it is not clear yet that it will be that soft at 2:00pm. Doubt if it will be any worse than good-soft anyway. So far this week there has been an advantage to race prominently. Weald Park and Shaweel are the most likely prominent runners here. Hope they do not take each other on. Weald Park was very impressive last time out and stays 7f well. Shaweel was disappointing at Ascot but the trainer is now in much better form. Ignoring that run Shaweel would stand a good chance here. I am a little concerned if it came up soft whether a Dansili colt would act on it.

[markysimmo]

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2:00 Newmarket (addition) £27 @ 8/1 (sportingbet) Classic Blade Bets like this don't come around that often. So have put a bigger than usual bet on. Impressive at Salisbury on good-firm last time but won on good-soft before that. Has a markedly round action usually favoured by soft ground. Stamina might be a problem in the ground but may be able to get a soft lead. Improving and has much better form (at present) than the talking horse Sayif. Who is only that price through home reputation and the trainers winner in this last year. Prolific is a danger, ran well at Ascot on firm. Will he be as good on soft? Got beat on good-soft. Running on at the Royal meeting and should benefit by an extra furlong. Effort is interesting, Johnston was in poor form at Ascot yet Effort ran well, improvement looks likely and has run well on good-soft. I expect Classic Blade to start around half his current price.

What a great call on this one, thanks Ginger Top Man.. Fingers Crossed for some more winners today and ive just seen you tipped Lucarno and Nahood too...Top Stuff

[Gingertipster]

Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Yep, thanks mate, not only £27 at 8/1 but £62 at 6.2/1 Classic Blade. Now for July Cup. Going to take a chance it does not rain too much before the off with Benbaun. Price is worth taking the chance with. Zidane should act on good-soft. £10 each way @ 25/1 (Tote or Laddies) Benbaun (6.5% 15/1) £12 each way @ 20/1 (Fred Done or Bl sq) Zidane (7% 14/1) (24/1 is available (win only) at betfair)

[markysimmo]

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Y Now for July Cup. Going to take a chance it does not rain too much before the off with Benbaun. Price is worth taking the chance with. Zidane should act on good-soft. £10 each way @ 25/1 (Tote or Laddies) Benbaun (6.5% 15/1) £12 each way @ 20/1 (Fred Done or Bl sq) Zidane (7% 14/1) (24/1 is available (win only) at betfair)

Templegate in the Sun backed Benbaun today too...

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 July Cup addition. £30 @ 7.2/1 Kingsgate Native (15% 11/2) £8 @ 29/1 Fat Boy (4.5% 22/1)

[BillyHills]

Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 A belated well done for yesterday Ginge, didnt have time to go through all the threads, good stuff!

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Cheers Billy. 7:25 Salisbury £100 @ 2.3/1 Tudor Key (36% 7/4) Have reduced the stake due to soft going though the selection ran well on ground with give underfoot on debut prior to chasing home Free Agent in the Chesham (4th). Surely must have a better than 33% chance of winning this maiden, but am a little concerned about the stable's form.

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 3:35 Chester £100 @ 11/4 (B365) Borderlescott (33% 2/1) Much maligned horse, very consistant but has found one too good so many times. Always a does his best. Not that well drawn but plenty of front runners to make that not such a bad thing.

[Cassius Marcellus]

Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Nothing on Cesare today, Ginge? :)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 8:30 Salisbury £40 @ 6.4/1 Hadron Collider (16.5% 5/1) £7 @ 8.2/1 Obrigado (12.5% 7/1) £16 @ 3.6/1 Bold Bobby be (25% 3/1) 9:00 Salisbury £50 @ 5/1 Victoria Reel (20% 4/1) £12 @ 4.1/1 Maramba (23% 100/30) £6 @ 12/1 Jazz Jam (10% 9/1) (Was concerned about the pace in the race with Cesare, and Frank Spencer)

[Cassius Marcellus]

Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Group 2 race but he was up against Group 1 horses. Lost 2nd near the line.

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 4:10 Curragh £75 @ 7/2 Katiyra (25% 3/1) Was my pick along with Machita at Epsom and both did not act. Moonstone is an obvious danger but will need a strongly run race to show her best (stayer). Did think about backing her for the St Leger but if she wins may not take part. Gagnoa is the other with a good chance, bred to improve at the trip and chaced home Zarkava last time. Can't see Mad about you or Chinese White staying the trip. May come back for one or two savers. Ginge

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 4:10 Curragh (addition) £30 @ 5/2 (Paddies) Moonstone (31.5% 85/40) Overall price taken 20/21 must have a better than 51% chance combined. With only Gagnoa considered a real danger (Gagnoa is also value in my book but do not like taking long odds on). Ginge

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Ante-post. I see this is getting shorter today so.. King George VI & Queen Lizz £38 @ 10/1 Ask (13% 13/2)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 According to Oddschecker 10/1 is still available with Ladbrokes, Corals and Hills.

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 1:50 Newbury £50 @ 6.4/1 Doctor Crane (16.5% 5/1) £20 @ 2.9/1 Oratory (29% 5/2) 2:20 Newbury £33 @ 15.5/1 Edge Closer (12% 15/2) £25 @ 14/1 Beckermet (9% 10/1) 3:25 Newbury £31 @ 12/1 Infamous Angel (11% 8/1) £25 @ 13.5/1 Senor Mirasol (9% 10/1) £6 @ 9.5/1 Bahamian Babe (11.5% 15/2) 4:30 Newbury £38 @ 7.6/1 Al Shemali (13% 13/2) £12`@ 31/1 Hearthstead Maison (5% 20/1) £9 @ 59/1 Escape Route (3.5% 28/1) £5 @ 109/1 Levera (2% 50/1) £6 @ 12/1 Baharah (9.5% 10/1)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 2:50 Newbury £75 @ 7/2 Maghya (25% 3/1) £14 @ 7/1 Fragrancy (14% 6/1) £20 @ 4.7/1 Lisdelean (20% 4/1) (Additions) 2:20 Newbury £10 @ 23/1 Edge Closer 3:25 Newbury £10 @ 18/1 Infamous Angel Both additions look particularly good value.

[Fatz]

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3:25 Newbury £31 @ 12/1 Infamous Angel (11% 8/1) £25 @ 13.5/1 Senor Mirasol (9% 10/1) £6 @ 9.5/1 Bahamian Babe (11.5% 15/2)quote] Hard luck there Ginger, second, third and fourth in the correct order. Believe Jimmy Quinn was quoted as saying Infamous Angel would have won if she hadn't hung.

[Gingertipster]

Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Aftertiming here but I did manage savers on the winner and Harwalla Fatz, but very frustrating none the less. Would've been a big win. Did have a good day anyway. Ginge

[Gingertipster]

Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Sorry have not done a profit / loss for some time. Going to Salisbury tuesday and Mick Channon stable visit wednesday. But will do one as soon as possible. Have looked at Salisbury prices but liquidity is poor on Betfair, will look again in the morning. Ginge

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 3:00 Salisbury £125 @ 2.8/1 Retro (33% 2/1) (Have saved on Auld Arty but the price has gone) 4:05 Salisbury £42 @ 9/1 Flying Applause (14% 6/1) £15 @ 3.2/1 Del Mar Sunset (26% 11/4) £5 @ 13/1 Proper (9.5% 10/1) (Have also saved on Higgys Boy but the price has gone) 4:40 Salisbury £100 @ 3.7/1 Emerites Lady (29% 5/2/) £18 @ 18.5/1 Russian Empress (9% 10/1)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 3:00 Retro did well to finish where he did on debut coming from some way back. Hannon is in very good form and his two year olds usually improve appreciably on their second starts. Square Eddie is a big danger having been an unlucky 3^rd in a good maiden on debut. But at a time when the trainer's horses were running well, disappointed at Royal Ascot. Auld Arty may be able to improve, pulled too hard at Newmarket over 7f. Back to 6 today, if he is in a better frame of mind may go close for an in form yard. 4:05 Most of these are hold up horses and Flying Applause is usually up there on the pace which may help here. Bit disappointing last time but is pretty consistent and lightly raced. Can improve. Del Mar Sunset looks to be coming in to form and has the best chance if getting a truly run race. Proper ran a good enough race here last time under similar conditions and is over priced (imo). Higgys Boy is an obvious danger but has always found one too good in the past. 4:40 With Ethaara being well backed for his debut the form horse now looks massively over priced. Ethraa could be anything but Haggas has a poor record first time out and R. Hills is usually not hard on them first time either. Though he might not need to. Emerites Lady has good form already, very well bred, seven furlongs may suit more than 8 last time and should improve further. The 6/4 favourite on Emerites Lady's race was Russian Empress, a sister to Russian Rhythem. Did not improve as expected first time up this season but it is too early to write her off. At around 16 or 18/1 looks worth taking a chance on. Ginge

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Results Update: £117 @ 2.85/1 Finjaan 2^nd £50 @ 6/1 Peppertree Lane 4^th £35 @ 1.78/1 Royal And Regal 3^rd £5 @ 21/1 Balken Knight 2^nd £55 @5.8/1 Passage Of Time £17 @ 7/2 Pipedreamer 3^rd £4 @ 22/1 Charlie Farnsbarns £9 @ 29/1 Charlie Farnsbarns £3 @ 100/30 Pipedreamer Days Stakes £295 Days Deficit £295 £42 @ 7.2/1 Fountains Abbey 3^rd £30 @ 6.6/1 Moon Sister £10 @ 7.2/1 La Troupe £5 @ 9.5/1 Fountains Abbey £45 @ 8.2/1 Red Icon £30 @ 6.6/1 Buddy Holly 2^nd £15 @ 6.2/1 Rock Peak £50 @ 7.2/1 Starlight Gazer Days Stakes £227 Days Deficit £227 £123 @ 2.2/1 Swift Princess £57 @ 4.8/1 Ordnance Row £10 @ 35/1 Vanderlin £7 @ 14.5/1 Salient 1^st Return £83.13 (Kavachi non-runner) Will count it as a 25p reduction factor. Pity could not have got on here to make it the main bet. Days Stakes £197 Days Return £83.13 Days Deficit £113.87 £80 @ 3/1 High Rock 4th £18 @ 5/1 Thewayyouare £9 @ 12/1 Famous Name £10 @ 39/1 Famous Name 2^nd (one that got away, beaten a head) £10 @ 89/10 Thewayyouare Days Stakes £127 Days Deficit £127 £50 @ 6.6/1 Mia's Boy £15 @ 5/1 Don't Panic 4^th £23 @ 19/1 Macarther £15 each way @ 16/1 MacArther 3^rd Return £75 £20 @ 16/1 Dar Re Mi £35 @ 7.8/1 Katiyra 3^rd £25 @ 3/1 Lush Lashes £24 @ 12/1 Michita £4 @ 74/1 Savethisdanceforme Days Stakes £226 Days Return £75 Days Deficit £151 £42 @ 9/1 Enforce 3rd £7 @ 10/1 Jamboretta £12 @ 9/2 Cicerole 2^nd £27 @ 10/1 Tajaweed £20 @ 7/2 Casual Conquest 3^rd £40 @ 5/1 Casual Conquest (Bronze Cannon non-runner (NRNB)) Days Stakes £148 Days Deficit £148 £107 @ 2.6/1 Carniolan 2^nd £20 @ 15/1 Casilda 1^st Return £320 £60 @ 3.7/1 Storyland 3^rd £7 @ 15/1 Star Of Gibraltar Days Stakes £194 Days Return £320 Days Profit £126 £20 @ 13/1 La Troupe £9 @ 2.4/1 La Troupe £114 @ 2.4/1 Noble Jack 2^nd £22 @ 15.5/1 Burn The Breeze £36 @ 6.4/1 Rosa Grace 1^st Return £266.40 £26 @ 9/4 Kotsi Days Stakes £227 Days Return £266.40 Days Profit £39.40 £70 each way @ 5/2 Desert Chill 2^nd Return £105 £33 @ 7.6/1 Golden Desert 2^nd £22 @ 18.5/1 Tony James £7 @ 49/1 Wavertree Warrior £11 @ 5.6/1 Councellor 4^th £60 @ 4/1 McConnell Days Stakes £273 Days Return £105 Days Deficit £168 £60 @ 4/1 Ollie George 3^rd £15 @ 20/1 Pactolus 1^st Return £315 £30 each way @ 13/2 Siren Sound £3 each way @ 66/1 The Trader Days Stakes £141 Days Return £315 Days profit £174 Total Stakes £2055 Returns £1164.53 Deficit -£890.47 So far: Stakes £5023 Returns £5789.21 Profit £766.21

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Royal Ascot £45 @ 7.6/1 Cesare 4^th £50 @ 6/1 Sageburg £33 @ 10/1 Benbaun £12 @ 12.5/1 Dandy Man 4th £8 @ 59/1 Abraham Lincoln £4 @ 28/1 Equiano 1^st Return £116 £2 @ 84/1 Moorhouse Lad £25 @ 9/4 Fleeting Spirit 3rd £30 each way @ 6/1 Falco £7 @ 8.8/1 Raven's Pass 2^nd £83 @ 7/2 Orizaba £19 @ 9/2 Himalaya 4^th £3 @ 41/1 Awinnersgame Days Stakes £351 Days Return £116 Days Deficit £235 £45 @ 10.5/1 Stimulation 4^th £20 @ 17/1 War Officer £5 @ 49/1 Tawaash £2 @ 79/1 Shallal £7 @ 14/1 Il Wared 2^nd £30 each way @ 16/1 Harvest Queen (Did back the winner as a saver but the price had gone so couldn't put it up, before going back out late) £33 each way @ 8/1 Ask £33 @ 5.8/1 Phoenix Tower 2^nd Days Stakes £238 Days Deficit £238 £125 @ 2.6/1 South Central 1^st Return £450 £37 @ 3.6/1 Michita 1^st (Return £150.22 have included 15p reduction for Dar Re Mi non-runner. £63 @ 3.1/1 Michita (Return £258.30) Over all Return £408.52 £75 @ 9/2 Coastal Path 3^rd £50 @ 13/2 Collection 1^st Return £375 £12 @ 25/1 Alfathaa Days Stakes £362 Days Return £1233.52 Days Profit £871.52 £50 @ 6/1 All The Aces 4th £65 @ 9/2 Bronze Cannon £13 @ 9.5/1 Winchester £42 @ 7.6/1 Lush Lashes 1^st Return £361.20 £11 @ 43/1 Tuscan Evening £18 @ 3.2/1 Spacious 4^th £32 @ 7/2 Spacious £55 @ 11/2 Monte Alto £8 @ 35/1 Illustrious Blue £8 @ 12/1 Buccalati (Mutajarred was a non-runner) Days Stakes 302 Days Return £361.20 Days Profit £59.20 £125 @ 2.4/1 Free Agent 1^st Return £425 £35 each way @ 8/1 Speed Gifted 4^th £11 @ 35/1 Fat Boy £14 @ 28/1 Astronomer Royal £9 @ 39/1 Zidane £30 @ 5/1 Sakhee's Secret £25 @ 5/1 Sakhee's Secret £15 @ 6/1 Marchand D'Or Days Stakes £299 Days Return £425 Days Profit £126 Royal Ascot Stakes £1552 Royal Ascot Returns £2135.72 Royal Ascot Profit £583.72 Total Stakes £6575 Returns £7924.93 Profit £1349.93

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 After Royal Ascot £125 @ 5/2 Qalahari 2^nd £62 @ 5.6/1 Sterling Sound 4^th £33 @ 8/1 Give £35 @ 13/1 Berry Baby 2^nd £31 @ 10.5/1 Miss Jolyon £23 @ 2.85/1 Black Dahlia Days Stakes £309 Days Deficit £309 £133 @ 2.2/1 Our Wee Girl £17 @ 3.8/1 Sea Of Leaves 1^st Return £81.60 £75 @ 4.9/1 Any Given Day 3^rd £25 @ 17/1 La Famiglia £12 @ 33/1 Todber £44 @ 9/2 Deira Duubai 2^nd Days Stakes £306 Days Return £81.60 Days Deficit £224.40 £83 @ 4/1 Starlarks 1^st Return £415 £38 @ 15.5/1 Calsida 4^th £15 @ 3/1 West With The Wind £50 @ 8.6/1 Oasis breeze 4^th £33 @ 15/8 Saucy Brown 2^nd £9 @ 10/1 Dabbers Chief 3^rd £50 @ 6/1 Vitznau 4^th £36 @ 7.2/1 Eisteddfod £35 each way @ 5/1 Dazzling Light 2^nd Return £70 Days Stakes £346 Days Return £485 Days Profit £139 £100 @ 5/2 Press The Button 1^st Return £350 £63 @11/2 Mekong Melody 2^nd £14 @ 9/2 Tina's Best 4^th £11 @ 8/1 Maybe I Will £5 @ 22/1 Maraasi 3^rd Days Stakes £193 Days Return £350 Days Profit £157 £63 @ 11/2 Ezima 2^nd £18 @ 7/2 Turbo Linn £62 @ 5/1 Pipedreamer 3^rd £5 @ 5.6/1 Pipedreamer £17 @ 4/1 Phoenix Tower 2^nd £25 @ 10.5/1 Balken Knight £23 @ 11.5/1 Raincoat £18 @ 11/4 Samuel 2^nd (should've got it in the stewards room) Days Stakes £231 Days Deficit £231 £80 @ 100/30 Lucky Leigh £55 @ 11/2 Heaven Sent 3^rd £20 @ 16/1 Nahoodh 1^st Return £260 (25p? Reduction for Darjina non-runner) Days Stakes £155 Days Return £260 Days Profit £105 £40 each way @ 5/1 Enroller (Hobby non-runner) £62 @ 6.2/1 Classic Blade £27 @ 8/1 Classic Blade 1^st Return £689.40 £10 @ 7.6/1 Effort £35 @ 9/1 Lucarno 1^st Return £350 £34 @ 15/2 Lion Sands 4^th £16 @ 9/2 Sagara Days Stakes £264 Days Return £1039.40 Days Profit £775.40 £50 @ 7.8/1 Weald Park 2^nd (very bad ride, possibly should have won) £25 @ 8.4/1 Shaweel 3^rd £30 @ 11/1 Mastership 4^th £10 each way @ 25/1 Benbaun £12 each way @ 20/1 Zidane £30 @ 7.2/1 Kingsgate Native £8 @ 29/1 Fat Boy Days Stakes £187 Days Deficit £187 (Newmarkket July Festival Meeting £693.40 Profit) £100 @ 11/4 Borderlescott 2^nd £100 @ 2.3/1 Tudor Key £40 @ 6.4/1 Hadron Collider 3^rd £7 @ 8.2/1 Obrigado £16 @ 3.6/1 Bold Bobby Be £50 @ 5/1 Victoria Reel 2^nd £12 @ 4.1/1 Maramba 3^rd £6 @ 12/1 Jazz Jam 4^th Days Stakes £325 Days Deficit £325 £75 @ 7/2 Katiyra £30 @ 5/2 Moonstone 1^st Return £105 Days Stakes £105 Days Return £105 Days Profit £0 £50 @ 6.4/1 Doctor Crane 1^st Return £370 £20 @ 2.9/1 Oratory 2^nd £75 @ 7/2 Maghya £14 @ 7/1 Fragrancy 2^nd £20 @ 4.7/1 Lisdelean 1^st Return £114 £33 @ 15.5/1 Edge Closer £10 @ 23/1 Edge Closer £25 @ 14/1 Beckermett £31 @ 12/1 Infamous Angel 2^nd (unlucky, would've been a nice win) £10 @ 18/1 Infamous Angel £25 @ 13.5/1 Senor Mirasol 3^rd £6 @ 9.5/1 Bahamian Babe 4^th (Did save on a couple of others including the winner) £38 @7.6/1 Al Shemali £12 @ 31/1 Hearthstead Maison 3^rd £5 @ 109/1 Lavera (Escape Route and Baharah were non-runners) Days Stakes £374 Days Return £484 Days Profit £110 (could've been lot better) £125 @ 2.8/1 Retro £42 @ 9/1 Flying Applause (sat down in stall) £15 @ 3.2/1 Del Mar Sunset (no room on rail) £5 @ 13/1 Proper £100 @ 3.7/1 Emerites Lady £18 @ 18.5/1 Russian Empress Days Stakes £305 Days Deficit £305 Total Staked £9675 Returns £10729.93 Profit £1054.93 (9.83%)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 2:35 Ascot £63 @ 5.2/1 Danidh Dubai Have not worked this race out properly but saw her in her box this week and was impressed, seemed to have more size about her than the other two year old fillies. Mick also had a good word for her. 3:40 Ascot £50 @ 6.2/1 Lovelace (17% 5/1) £20 @ 17.5/1 Zaahid (8% 12/1) £16 @ 11/1 Mastership (10% 9/1) Lovelace was given plenty to do at Newmarket, kept closer would've won. Is the obvious one from the high numbers here. Stable in great form. Zaahid ran poorly in the Bunbury but the stable was in poorish form at the time, now better. Ignoring that run and he stands a good chance here. Very good looking horse and course and distance winner. Friend of mine is part owner of Mastership and he is keen on his chances but is worried the ground may be too firm. Ginge

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 4:20 Ascot Already Advised £38 @ 10/1 Ask Now £16 each way @ 14/1 (blue square) Ask (12.6% 7/1) £7 @ 11/1 Lucarno (10.5% 17/2)