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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Pattavellian has been dropped to a good mark. This years form this season has got progressively better. Does not need to be anywhere near his best of a few years ago here. With stable in the best form it has been in all year. 9/2 looks too big in a lesser contest than he's been racing in. Sir Edwin Landseer has also dropped in the weights and could surprise a few today on a course he can run well at. Problem is he has quite a bit of temperament and sometimes loses it's race at the start. Hope he breaks o.k. Don't be a McCrirrick if you "fail to get a run fot your money". Being a monkey is factored in to his price. I just think it is worth taking a chance on. Ginge

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Dewhurst RVW is very short for what he's done. The Bolger filly he beat last time was nowhere near form that day. O.K. he should be favourite, but I'd want better than 9/4 to back him. My prices to beat (to 100%) and what my bookies price would be had I been an odds compiler (in brackets) to 122.8%: Ashram 11/2 (9/2) Delegator 13/1 (9/1) Egypt 800/1 (200/1) Finjaan 20/1 (14/1) Galpin Junior 800/1 (200/1) Huntdown 15/2 (6/1) Intense Focus 25/1 (18/1) Lord Shanakil 22/1 (16/1) Ouqba 40/1 (28/1) Prime Delivery No Price (1000/1) Rip Van Winkle 9/4 (2/1) Shaweel 17/2 (13/2) Soul City 9/1 (15/2) I make Huntdown, Shaweel and Soul City all value bets all at 12/1. Backed Huntdown as the main bet, Shaweel as a fair bet and Soul City as a saver. Huntdown should on breeding improve at this trip and stable is flying. Shaweel is improving and ran what was then thought to be O'Brien's best 2 yo, close last time. It is possible he may be better on softer ground but is worth taking a chance at the price. Stable in good form too. Soul City may be able to let Egypt go and lead the others at his own pace. Would also have liked a little softer ground to be sure of a good run but is again worth taking a chance with at the price. £33 @ 12/1 Huntdown (11.5% 15/2) £25 @ 12/1 Shaweel (10.5% 17/2) £7 @ 12/1 Soul City (10% 9/1)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Todays system bets 2:05 Newmarket 18 points @ 11/2 Major Cadeaux (£45) 15 points @ 11/2 Stimulation (£45) 5 points @ 20/1 Royal Confidence (£5) 4 points @ 25/1 Duff (£4) 3 points @ 33/1 Balthazar's Gift (£3) 3:50 Newmarket 3 points each way @ 33/1 Mighty Moon (£8 each way)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Yet again when there is a second string the bookies / public under estimate its chance by a long way. My prices to beat: Ask 5/4, Spanish Moon 100/30, Blue Monday 7/1, Buccaletti 11/1, Sell Out 22/1, Scintillo 25/1, Championship Point 50/1, Numide 400/1 I backed Ask for the Arc at a big price, but he is a stayer and there does not look much pace in the race tomorrow. Although Asks best form is on good or firmer he has a very rounded action that may be better on soft. Blue Monday comes from a stable in form, stays well and acts on soft, but is unlikely to improve at the age of seven. Championship Point may get a soft lead but is not in good enough form. Buccelletti is intreresting, proven on soft and in form but should not quite be good enough. Sell Out goes very well on a soft surface (rounded action) but again should not be good enough. Scintillo may need a slowly run race to stay (like he had last time) but still might not do so in the ground. Numide outclassed. Spanish Moon has form on a soft surface and has form over shorter so should have more speed if it is slow. Good looking horse and still improving. His stable companion has a better chance but nowhere near what the betting suggests. Bets like this do not come along very often, should be half the current price. Get on!

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Todays System Bets 2:25 Doncaster 11 points @ 17/2 (Corals) Cheveton (£33) 9 points @ 10/1 (Bet Fred) Judge And Jury (£27) 8 points @ 14/1 (Corals) Kaldoun Kingdom (£24) 4 points @ 33/1 (Stan James) The Jobber (£12) 2:45 Newbury (I myself believe Spanish Moon is the value) 7 points each way @ 10/1 (VC) Buccelatti (£0) 5 points each way @ 16/1 (Hills) Sell Out (£0) 2 points each way @ 50/1 (generally) Championship Point (£2) 3:35 Doncaster 23 points @ 100/30 (generally) Masterofthehouse (£23) 22 points @ 7/2 (generally) Jukebox Jury (£50) 10 points @ 9/1 (Corals) Marching Time (£25)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Todays System Bets in USA. 6:10 Santa Anita 36 points @ 9/4 Sixties Icon (£96) 6 points @ 16/1 Muhannak (£6) 6:50 Santa Anita 17 points @ 6/1 Fleeting Spirit (£17) 18 points @ 13/2 Diabolical (£54) 13 @ 7/1 California Flag (£15) 11 @ 10/1 Get Funky (£33) 4 @ 16/1 Rouse The Cat (£6) 3 @ 25/1 Only Answer (£4) 2 @ 50/1 Storm Treasure (£2) 7:30 Santa Anita 35 @ 5/2 Well Armed (£87) 14 @ 6/1 Lewis Michael (£16) 8 @ 12/1 Mast Track (£9) 7 @ 14/1 My Pal Charlie (£7) 3 @ 22/1 Slew's Tiznow (£4) 2 @ 50/1 Slew's Tizzy (£2) 8:15 Santa Anita 33 @ 2/1 Goldicova (£66) 8 @ 12/1 Precious Kitten (£9) 8 @ 12/1 US Ranger (£0) 11 @ 12/1 Whatsthescript (£33) 2 @ 40/1 Bold Chieften (£3) 8:55 Santa Anita 26 @ 5/1 Square Eddie (£78) 17 @ 5/1 Street Hero (£20) 10 @ 9/1 Munnings (£11) 5 @ 20/1 Terrain (£5) 4@ 25/1 Silent Valor (£4) 2 @ 33/1 Azul Leon (£2) 9:35 Santa Anita (NO BET) 10:15 Santa Anita 22 @ 7/2 Street Boss (£25) 24 @ 5/1 Cost Of Freedom (£72) 17 @ 6/1 Fatal Bullit (£17) 11:00 Santa Anita 22 @ 9/2 Conduit (£66) 14 @ 6/1 Grand Courtier (£17) 17 @ 6/1 Eagle Mountain (£17) 15 @ 8/1 Red Rocks (£25) 11:45 Santa Anita 29 @ 5/2 Curlin (£25) 11 @ 10/1 Raven's Pass (£42) 11 @ 12/1 Duke Of Marmalade (£7) 10 @ 12/1 Colonel John (£7) 4 @ 33/1 Champs Elysees (£3)

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Todays system bets 2:35 Doncaster 20 points @ 4/1 (generally) Chief Editor (£60) 1 point @ 150/1 (L) Sudden Impact (£2 ew) 3:45 Doncaster 10 points @ 9/1 Charm School (£30) 2 points ew @ 33/1 Ponty Rossa (£5ew) 3 points ew @ 40/1 Haajes (£4ew) 2 points ew @ 40/1 Wyatt Erp (£4ew) Ginge

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Re: Gingers (Flat) Winners 08 Sorry, had all this done many months ago, forgot to put it on here. Carried over: Total Staked £12,921, Total Return £13,148.14, Total Profit £227.14 (1.75%) 3:45 Goodwood £70 @ 4.7/1 Kings Wonder 2nd £10 @ 7.2/1 Patavium Prince £80 4:20 Goodwood £55 @ 6.8/1 Meydan City £25 @ 2.2/1 Many Volumes 3rd £80 Days Stakes £160, Days Return £0, Days Deficit £160 1:55 Ascot £24 @ 12/1 Rosleen £24 @ 12/1 Eva's Request 1st Return £312.00 £21 @ 14/1 Mekong Melody 2nd £12 @ 25/1 Raymi Coya £12 @ 33/1 Nijoom Dubai £93 2:30 Ascot £42 @ 8.6/1 On Our Way 3rd £100 @ 5/2 Citiscape 2nd £9 @ 20/1 Jukebox Jury 1st Return £189 £151 3:05 Ascot £39 each way @ 6/1 Fantasia 2nd Return £85.80 £3 each way @ 66/1 Brief Candle £3 each way @ 100/1 Beat Seven 4th £90 3:40 Ascot £12 each way @ 20/1 Atlantic Story £12 each way @ 20/1 Big Noise £3 each way @ 50/1 Celtic Sultan £54 4:15 Ascot £90 @ 3.8/1 Raven's Pass 1st Return £432 £90 Days Stakes £478, Days Return £1,018.80, Days Profit £540.80 2:05 Ascot £66 @ 7/2 Kensington Oval £20 @ 10/1 Hatton Flight £10 @ 25/1 Sahrati £96 2:40 Ascot £31 @ 11/1 Sugar Ray 2nd 5 @ 6.8/1 Ajhar 3rd £36 3:15 Ascot £42 @ 8.8/1 Edge Closer £25 @ 15/1 Kings Apostle 1st Return £400 £10 @ 11/1 Prime Defender 4th £10 @ 14/1 Diabolical 2nd £5 @ 18/1 Elletelle £92 Days Stakes £224, Days Return £400, Days Profit £176 2:30 Salisbury £60 @ 5.4/1 Admiral Dugue £10 @ 5/1 Cry For The Moon 3rd £70 4:40 Salisbury £40 @ 10/1 Superduper £40 @ 12.5/1 Blue Jack £12 @ 7.4/1 Filligree 2nd £11 @ 9/1 Polar Annie £103 Days Stakes £173, Days Return £0, Days Deficit £173 (This day was put in my Gingers Jumpers thread by mistake) 2:45 Goodwood £50 @ 5/1 Shy 3rd £25 @ 2.2/1 Star Rocker £75 3:55 Goodwood £60 @ 5.4/1 Storyland Return £384 £40 @ 13/2 Miss Rochester £100 4:30 Goodwood £45 each way @ 5/1 Predicament 4th £90 Days Stakes £265, Days Return £384, Days Profit £119 1:30 Newmarket £50 @ 6.4/1 Mistaqeya £35 @ 8.2/1 Intense £10 @ 9/1 Ballantrae £95 2:05 Newmarket £100 @ 9/4 Bankable 2nd £100 2:40 Newmarket £33 @ 10/1 Mythical Border £40 @ 15/2 Infamous Angel £73 3:10 Newmarket £55 @ 6/1 Finjaan £9 @ 7.6/1 Sayif 2nd £9 @ 7.6/1 Gallagher £73 Days Stakes £341, Days return £0, Days Deficit £341 2:20 Longchamp £18 each way @ 12/1 US Ranger 3rd Return £72 £9 each way @ 25/1 Duff £54 2:55 Longchamp £6 each way Noble Prince £12 3:15 Newmarket £100 @ 2/1 Darjina 2nd £30 @ 7/1 Nahoodh £13 @ 10/1 Heaven Sent £143 3:50 Newmarket £27 @ 10/1 Swop 2nd £27 @ 10/1 Premio Loco £27 @ 10/1 Yadaree £81 10:48 Woodbine £60 @ 4/1 Quijano £27 @ 10/1 Seaside Retreat £18 @ 16/1 Mourilyan £105 Days Stakes £383, Days Return £72, Days Deficit £311 1:15 Longchamp £42 @ 8.6/1 National Colour (Not very pleased they ran this race after the false start, not allowed to get my money back) £42 3:40 Longchamp £55 @ 6.2/1 Duke Of Marmalade £17 @ 23/1 Papal Bull £13 @ 37/1 Ask £10 @ PM Duke Of Marmalade £5 @ PM Ask £10 @ PM Getaway £110 Days Stakes £152, Days Return £0, Days deficit £152 3:15 Newbury £20 @ 26/1 Lost In Paris 4th £60 @ 4/1 Skid Solo £18 @ 5/1 Golden Destiny £98 Days Stakes £98, Days Return £0, Days Deficit £98 1:45 Ascot £9 each way @ 25/1 Conquest Return £299.25 £18 2:20 Ascot £15 each way @ 16/1 Pevensey 2nd Return £75 £30 3:15 Musselburgh £42 @ 6/1 Siren's Gift £18 @ 20/1 Fathom Five £24 @ 20/1 Ishetoo £12 @ 25/1 Aegean Dancer £12 @ 28/1 Cute Ass £108 Days Stakes £156, Days Return £374.25, Days Profit £218.25 4:20 Goodwood £70 @ 9/2 Pattavellian £4 @ 28/1 Sir Edwin Landseer £25 @ 7/2 Maimoona 3rd £99 Days Stakes £99, Days Return £0, Days Deficit £99 2:05 Newmarket £45 @ 11/2 Major Cadeaux £45 @ 11/2 Stimulation 1st Return £292.50 £5 @ 20/1 Royal Confidence £4 @ 25/1 Duff £3 @ 33/1 Balthazar's Gift £102 2:35 Newmarket £33 @ 12/1 Huntdown £25 @ 12/1 Shaweel 4th £7 @ 12/1 Soul City £65 3:10 Newmarket £20 @ 16/1 Traffic guard £30 @ 7.8/1 pipedreamer £50 @ 4/1 Russian Cross £100 3:50 Newmarket £8 each way @ 33/1 Mighty Moon £16 Days Stakes £283, Days Return £292.50, Days Profit £9.50 2:25 Doncaster £27 @ 10/1 Judge And Jury 1st Return £297 (Khaldoun Kingdom non-runner, Cheveton as I said, would not be counted as a bet, too late to get the price) £27 2:45 Newbury (Spanish Moon non-runner, shame because without him in the race the winner, Buccellati 15/2 would have been the main bet, as can be seen by my thread on the day. As it is the only bet was the saver). £2 @ 50/1 Championship Point £2 3:35 Doncaster £23 @ 100/30 Masterofthehouse £50 @ 7/2 Jukebox Jury 2nd £25 @ 9/1 Marching time £98 Afternoon's Stake £127, Afternoon's Return £297, Afternoon's Profit £170 6:10 Santa Anita £96 @ 9/4 Sixties Icon £6 @ 16/1 Muhannak 1st Return £102 £102 6:50 Santa Anita £17 @ 6/1 Fleeting Spirit 4th £54 @ 13/2 Diabolical 2nd (just caught) £15 @ 7/1 California Flag £33 @ 10/1 Get Funky £6 @ 16/1 Rouse The Cat £4 @ 25/1 Only Answer £2 @ 50/1 Storm Treasure 3rd £131 7:30 Santa Anita £87 @ 5/2 Well Armed £16 @ 6/1 Lewis Michael £9 @ 12/1 Mast Track £4 @ 22/1 Slew's Tiznow £2 @ 50/1 Slew's Tizzy £118 8:15 Santa Anita £66 @ 2/1 Goldicova 1st Return £198 £9 @ 12/1 Precious Kitten £33 @ 12/1 Whatsthescript 3rd £108 8:55 Santa Anita £78 @ 5/1 Square Eddie 2nd £20 @ 5/1 Street Hero 3rd £11 @ 9/1 Munnings £5 @ 20/1 Terrain 4th £4 @ 25/1 Silent Valor £2 @ 33/1 Azul Leon £120 10:15 Santa Anita £25 @ 7/2 Street Boss 3rd £72 @ 5/1 Cost Of Freedom £17 @ 6/1 Fatal Bullet 2nd £114 11:00 Santa Anita £66 @ 9/2 Conduit 1st Return £363 £17 @ 6/1 Grand Courtier £17 @ 6/1 Eagle Mountain 2nd £25 @ 8/1 Red Rocks £125 11:45 Santa Anita £25 @ 5/2 Curlin £42 @ 10/1 Raven's Pass 1st Return £462 £7 @ 12/1 Duke Of Marmalade £7 @ 12/1 Colonel John £3 @ 33/1 Champs Elysees £20 @ 15/1 Henrythenavigator 2nd £104 Evening's Stakes £922, Evening's Return £1125, Evening's Profit £203 3:55 Newmarket £31 @ 3/1 Bankable £60 @ 5/1 Virtual 1st Return £360 £18 @ 6/1 Alexandros 3rd £15 @ 20/1 Calming Influence £124 Days Stakes £124, Days Return £360, Days Profit £236 2:35 Doncaster £60 @ 4/1 Chief Editor 3rd £2 each way @ 150/1 Sudden Impact £64 3:45 Doncaster £30 @ 9/1 Charm School 3rd £5 each way @ 33/1 Ponty Rossa £4 each way @ 40/1 Haajes £4 each way @ 40/1 Wyatt Erp £56 Days Stakes £120, Days Return £0, Days Deficit £120 (This day was put in to Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 by mistake) 2:10 Lingfield £66 @ 9/2 Atlantic Story 1st Return £363 £51 @ 5/1 Markab 2nd £45 @ 8/1 My Gacho £9 @ 20/1 Capricorn Run £6 @ 28/1 Fajr £177 2:40 Lingfield £42 @ 6/1 Jennie Jerome £30 @ 9/1 Spring Godess £18 @ 20/1 Bermacha £15 @ 20/1 Cat Whistle 4th £9 @ 40/1 Ivory Lace £114 3:50 Lingfield (Chief Editor non-runner) £51 @ 5/1 Prohibit £21 @ 14/1 Swiss Franc 3rd £15 @ 20/1 Maltese Falcon 2nd £15 @ 20/1 How's She Cuttin £6 @ 40/1 Philario £111 Days stakes £402, Days Return £363, Days Deficit £39 Total Staked £17,428, Total Return £17,834.69, Total Profit £406.69 (2.33%) Mark (Ginge)

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