Zilzalian Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Anyone notice anything odd about this result? calva decoy and MCLARKE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensland Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Southwell. Single. 5.30. Diamond Haze. 7/1... unpl Double. 5.00. Dutta Bhatti. 10/3... 1st 8.30. Virtuoso. 5/2... unpl singles & double. Good luck all. Edited October 4, 2022 by kensland azzybear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calva decoy Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 8.30 Southwell - OFFICER ON PARADE 14/1 sky bet ( 4 places ) C.Hills 6/14 here this season , horse making handicap debut after 155 days off , she's been running at 7f , she's out of Nathaniel so the step up to 12f should suit , draw in stall 1 not ideal . kensland, MCLARKE and azzybear 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 13 hours ago, Zilzalian said: Anyone notice anything odd about this result? A 12,and 66 (800/1) paid 361 ....jeez ....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 345 leic Glam breeze 8.0 9/2 Eek bah gum 7.8 15/2 Lipsink 7.4 May blossom 7.0 Show along 7.0 5pt wins top 2 black rabbit, Wildgarden, azzybear and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensland Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Apprentice Championship race. Lucky 15 2.08. Brih. Eight Mile. 10/3..... unpl 2.43. Brih. Sigmund 4/1..... unpl 6.30. Soth. Castle Peak. 11/4.... unpl 8.00. Soth. Tequilamockingbird. 11/4... unpl Good luck all. Edited October 4, 2022 by kensland azzybear, LEE-GRAYS and black rabbit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: A 12,and 66 (800/1) paid 361 ....jeez ....? Well spotted, there was a 30p r4 but even so that is shocking by any measure it still should have returned at least 500/1, i was robbed. richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Southwell 8pm MERSEYSIDE Win Was 22/1 plenty of 20s still about. Kevin Ryan's newcomer has won over shorter on turf at Longchamp. Debuts under the ownership of Sheikh Mohammed successful on Saturday at Newmarket with Fonteyn. Numerous runs in France and stepped to this trip on final run. One of six rides for Kevin Stott but only runner at the meeting for the trainer. calva decoy, azzybear and black rabbit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Well spotted, there was a 30p r4 but even so that is shocking by any measure it still should have returned at least 500/1, i was robbed. It's becoming a regular thing ....I've noticed some 1000/1 tricasts are paying 600 etc ....its wrong ....the bookies seem to be making up their own rules and are getting away with out ...I suppose the only power we have is if everyone refuses to bet that bet they will be forced to offer better money ....but as long as people bet a 1000/1 shot for 600/1 they'll gladly take everyone's money Zilzalian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: It's becoming a regular thing ....I've noticed some 1000/1 tricasts are paying 600 etc ....its wrong ....the bookies seem to be making up their own rules and are getting away with out ...I suppose the only power we have is if everyone refuses to bet that bet they will be forced to offer better money ....but as long as people bet a 1000/1 shot for 600/1 they'll gladly take everyone's money Actually look at the tricast.....its near 8000/1 !!! And they've paid 2000 !!....its robbery and nothings being done about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black rabbit Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 was at a race meeting recently and a horse that was freely on offer @ 11/2 and 5/1 accross the boards at the off { won } and was returned @ 7/2 SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjo Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Quiet day for me so far, Tequilamockingbird in the 8.00 Southwell at 4/1 only one so far. Finished well against his own age group last time out, nearest at the finish in a race where the 3rd and 10th have come out and won next time out. Harry Davies and his 3lb claim more than negating the 1lb rise for that race. and has 4 winners from 13 for the stable. Good luck today. calva decoy, cannotbebeat, black rabbit and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 420 leic Triggered 7.8 14/1 Miss call 7.7 17/2 Special mayson 7.3 Miss Bella brand 7.2 Special mayson has Been well backed today but I'll try 5pt ew top 2 as look a bit of value ? fd1972uk, azzybear, black rabbit and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 anger management 1.05 ahead of the posse 1.15 jean geanie 1.40 mandarin monarch 1.50 queens eyot 2.00 jonjo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Jens boy 2.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 glor d atkon 3.25 black rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossa6133 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, richard-westwood said: Actually look at the tricast.....its near 8000/1 !!! And they've paid 2000 !!....its robbery and nothings being done about it How do they come up with the odds for tri-casts etc? Is it a pool? Used to do the odd placepot but usually win only with bookie/exchange so I don't really understand how that side of it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang on Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, black rabbit said: was at a race meeting recently and a horse that was freely on offer @ 11/2 and 5/1 accross the boards at the off { won } and was returned @ 7/2 SP I backed one at 9/2 just 15 seconds before the off.. won.. at 7/2 s.p. Complete rip off these bookmakers own s.p's. black rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang on Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Quite a few of interest today, and struggled to reduce them down for here. 2.35 Leic - Daysofourlives - 1pt EW - 7/1 (1/5th 3 places) 2.43 Bri - Strawberry Belle - 3pts win - 11/10 4.00 Hunt - Samation - 2pts win - 7/2 4.28 Bri - Counterattack - 2pts win - 15/8 5.05 Bri - Parikarma - 2pts EW - 9/2 (1/5th 3 places) 6.00 South - Oasis Power - 2pts win - 11/4 black rabbit, Wildgarden and azzybear 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjo Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, azzybear said: anger management 1.05 ahead of the posse 1.15 jean geanie 1.40 mandarin monarch 1.50 queens eyot 2.00 Anger Management a lovely winner, nice one ? azzybear and black rabbit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, yossa6133 said: How do they come up with the odds for tri-casts etc? Is it a pool? Used to do the odd placepot but usually win only with bookie/exchange so I don't really understand how that side of it works. It's a computer ....it takes combined odds ...field size.....pool value etc but doesn't reflect that your taking a 1000/1 chanc3 bet and being given a return of 300 ....its a crap bet and the bookies are manipulating it for sure ....one day it will happen to one of us ....youllget a 6000/1 tricast up and the payout will be 600 ....that's ridiculous yossa6133 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipswich45 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) sounds like Huntingdon been abandoned after race 2 due to slippery bends and horses stumbling Typical when you have a share in a runner in the 3rd, but in all seriousness glad if there is a issue with the bends its been called off before something does happen Edited October 4, 2022 by ipswich45 calva decoy and black rabbit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: It's a computer ....it takes combined odds ...field size.....pool value etc but doesn't reflect that your taking a 1000/1 chanc3 bet and being given a return of 300 ....its a crap bet and the bookies are manipulating it for sure ....one day it will happen to one of us ....youllget a 6000/1 tricast up and the payout will be 600 ....that's ridiculous I can't remember anybody making long term profits with these bets, I suspect it's mainly novices who bet them. If you don't like what the bookies are offering then don't take the bet, there's lots of other opportunities out there. calva decoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calva decoy Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, ipswich45 said: sounds like Huntingdon been abandoned after race 2 due to slippery bends and horses stumbling Typical when you have a share in a runner in the 3rd, but in all seriousness glad if there is a issue with the bends its been called off before something does happen At least Rock Legend lives to fight another day . I've backed Div Ine Tara at 14/1 eway in 4.00 at Huntingdon , a non runner is as good as a winner some days . black rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, yossa6133 said: How do they come up with the odds for tri-casts etc? Is it a pool? Used to do the odd placepot but usually win only with bookie/exchange so I don't really understand how that side of it works. Traditionally the forecast was worked out thus- add 1point to the second horse and multiply the 2 together eg 10/1 and 9/1 =100 but they cut and cut and cuts the cuts and we are where we are now the tricast same as foecast but and then multiply with the 3rd they now use a formula that noone can work out but the bookies, because they wont say what it is. The exacta, trifecta, and the placepot/jackpot are all pool bets from the tote. in the above example there was a rule 4 of 30p in the pound but it was still a shocking return. yossa6133 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black rabbit Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Traditionally the forecast was worked out thus- add 1point to the second horse and multiply the 2 together eg 10/1 and 9/1 =100 but they cut and cut and cuts the cuts and we are where we are now the tricast same as foecast but and then multiply with the 3rd they now use a formula that noone can work out but the bookies, because they wont say what it is. The exacta, trifecta, and the placepot/jackpot are all pool bets from the tote. in the above example there was a rule 4 of 30p in the pound but it was still a shocking return. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensland Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Southwell. Single. 7.00. Youm Zaman. 11/1... unpl Good luck all. Edited October 4, 2022 by kensland azzybear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannotbebeat Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 One at Southwell 8.00 Tequilamockingbird 11/4 Good luck all CNBB. azzybear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 legend of leros 6.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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