kensland Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Southwell. Double. 6.20.Night on the Town. 6/1..... unpl 7.50.Sister Micheal. 7/2..... 15/2. 1st singles & double. Good luck all. Edited May 9, 2022 by kensland cannotbebeat, azzybear and MCLARKE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensland Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Windsor. Single. 7.10.Royal Aviation. 13/8..... 2/1.... 1st Good luck all. Edited May 9, 2022 by kensland azzybear, cannotbebeat and The Equaliser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Southwell 5.50 Reve 9.77 (12/1) Rockys Treasure 9.7 (11/2) Boughtbeforelunch 9.56 (9/1) Hardly anything between top 3, especially top two so I’ll go with 5 points win Reve. He’s suited by this tricky course but what I think is interesting is that he runs off 120 and his form reads off this mark 21111UR, he probably would have finished 1st or 2nd when unseating . Reve 12/1 c/fc top 3 kensland, Wildgarden, azzybear and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannotbebeat Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Just 1 for me today 1.45 Musselburgh - Kodi Dancer 7/2 Good luck all CNBB. kensland, azzybear and The Equaliser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Southwell 7.20 Fanfan Du Seuil 9.46 (14/1) Lucky Lover Boy 9.26 (14/1) Coastguard Station 8.76 (3/2) Fanfan has some really strong form from a few years back. Hasn’t hit the heights he maybe could have done but overpriced and might be too good for these. I’m not overly struck on Lucky Lover, but has won off much higher in past and return to 2m on good ground might see him run well in this class . Coastguard unexposed , but at the prices I’ll go top two and reverse forecast 5 points win top two 14/1/14/1 Wildgarden, azzybear, The Equaliser and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensland Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Musselburgh. Double. 1.45.Cathy Come Home... 7/2.... 1st 2.20.Ayr Express. 2/1...... unpl singles & double. Good luck all. Edited May 9, 2022 by kensland azzybear, The Equaliser and cannotbebeat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossa6133 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Villa Chris said: Southwell 7.20 Fanfan Du Seuil 9.46 (14/1) Lucky Lover Boy 9.26 (14/1) Coastguard Station 8.76 (3/2) Fanfan has some really strong form from a few years back. Hasn’t hit the heights he maybe could have done but overpriced and might be too good for these. I’m not overly struck on Lucky Lover, but has won off much higher in past and return to 2m on good ground might see him run well in this class . Coastguard unexposed , but at the prices I’ll go top two and reverse forecast 5 points win top two 14/1/14/1 Coastguard Station wazzed up over CD and the 2nd and 3rd won next time out, might be worth a look in the without fav market! azzybear and Villa Chris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, yossa6133 said: Coastguard Station wazzed up over CD and the 2nd and 3rd won next time out, might be worth a look in the without fav market! Yeah I noticed . The money is coming in to him now, too. Was evens last I looked . azzybear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang on Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 selections today, 3.20 Muss - Aquamas - 7/4 6.10 Wind - Tomouh - 2/1 Wildgarden, The Equaliser and azzybear 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 My Trixie today is: 1.30 Catt Langholm 2/1 2.50 Muss Graces Quest 15/8 (though I don't like Paul Mulrennan) 5.50 Sou Percussion 3/1 (up 9lbs but @Alistairhas put it up so it must have a good chance) 1 x 4 pt win Trixie = poss retunr of 66.32 Single bets 1.40 Wolv Ringo starlight 1 pt win at 9.00 8.20 Sou Whispering Gypsy 1 pt win at 9/2 (looks a bit short but the Skeltons in good form atm) Total stakes 6 pts I will do a rescue bet on the 3rd leg of the Trixie if necessary yossa6133 and azzybear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fd1972uk Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 fold Aquamas The thin blue line Modern news Coastguard Station Double Golden gal and hachert Both used free bets azzybear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 A possible alternative to Computer Forecasts With York coming up later this week and the possibility of @richard-westwoodrating a few races I thought I would try and contribute some value to each way doubles for this and possibly other events. As mentioned previously the bookies manipulate requested fixed odds in their published returns for computer forecasts and tricasts. What annoys me is that they let you request the odds and then smash up the returns once a race is over. I find this very misleading and distasteful. My thoughts are that if one is rating more than one race on any one day then it could pay to use a different approach and secure the fixed odds requested at the time of placing a bet. This involves using two races instead of one to achieve returns that are not manipulated by the bookies. It means placing a bet on two mixed crossed doubles in two races using two or three selections from each race. When I was trying this out as an experiment I found that Betfair's Sportsbook would not even let me place one bet on two races with two selections. However, Bet365 does allow me to do this. It will allow three selections as well. With two selections in two races, this amounts to 4 bets and with 3 selections in two races, this amounts to 9 bets (hopefully this provides full cover). Obviously, this is not the same as a computer forecast but I can't see that there is a world of difference between one race as opposed to two when placing bets based upon ratings. I will definitely be giving it a go should @richard-westwoodpost up two or more races during the York or any other meeting. "Chance favours the prepared mind" Haha, no one is more prepared than the bookies. calva decoy, azzybear, Villa Chris and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang on Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Equaliser said: A possible alternative to Computer Forecasts With York coming up later this week and the possibility of @richard-westwoodrating a few races I thought I would try and contribute some value to each way doubles for this and possibly other events. As mentioned previously the bookies manipulate requested fixed odds in their published returns for computer forecasts and tricasts. What annoys me is that they let you request the odds and then smash up the returns once a race is over. I find this very misleading and distasteful. My thoughts are that if one is rating more than one race on any one day then it could pay to use a different approach and secure the fixed odds requested at the time of placing a bet. This involves using two races instead of one to achieve returns that are not manipulated by the bookies. It means placing a bet on two mixed crossed doubles in two races using two or three selections from each race. When I was trying this out as an experiment I found that Betfair's Sportsbook would not even let me place one bet on two races with two selections. However, Bet365 does allow me to do this. It will allow three selections as well. With two selections in two races, this amounts to 4 bets and with 3 selections in two races, this amounts to 9 bets (hopefully this provides full cover). Obviously, this is not the same as a computer forecast but I can't see that there is a world of difference between one race as opposed to two when placing bets based upon ratings. I will definitely be giving it a go should @richard-westwoodpost up two or more races during the York or any other meeting. "Chance favours the prepared mind" Haha, no one is more prepared than the bookies. If you are doing each way doubles, there is also the chance that all bets could return some kind of profit via 2 placed selections. richard-westwood, azzybear and The Equaliser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 illbegone 3.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Queens fair 4.20 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 throw in Bramham 4.50 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, The Equaliser said: A possible alternative to Computer Forecasts With York coming up later this week and the possibility of @richard-westwoodrating a few races I thought I would try and contribute some value to each way doubles for this and possibly other events. As mentioned previously the bookies manipulate requested fixed odds in their published returns for computer forecasts and tricasts. What annoys me is that they let you request the odds and then smash up the returns once a race is over. I find this very misleading and distasteful. My thoughts are that if one is rating more than one race on any one day then it could pay to use a different approach and secure the fixed odds requested at the time of placing a bet. This involves using two races instead of one to achieve returns that are not manipulated by the bookies. It means placing a bet on two mixed crossed doubles in two races using two or three selections from each race. When I was trying this out as an experiment I found that Betfair's Sportsbook would not even let me place one bet on two races with two selections. However, Bet365 does allow me to do this. It will allow three selections as well. With two selections in two races, this amounts to 4 bets and with 3 selections in two races, this amounts to 9 bets (hopefully this provides full cover). Obviously, this is not the same as a computer forecast but I can't see that there is a world of difference between one race as opposed to two when placing bets based upon ratings. I will definitely be giving it a go should @richard-westwoodpost up two or more races during the York or any other meeting. "Chance favours the prepared mind" Haha, no one is more prepared than the bookies. I sometimes attempt this and have come close several times . Providing you’ve got some big odds you can win big . Even smaller odds 2/1-4/1 etc can pay a nice treble for pretty small stakes . vikki37 and The Equaliser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensland Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Windsor. Doubles. 5.05.Sweet Reward. 11/2..... unpl 5.40.Radio Goo Goo..... unpl singles & double. 7.40.Dubai Leader. 4/1....... 7/1. 1st 8.10.World Without Love. 5/2........ 2nd singles & double. Good luck all. Edited May 9, 2022 by kensland richard-westwood, The Equaliser, Wildgarden and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, The Equaliser said: A possible alternative to Computer Forecasts With York coming up later this week and the possibility of @richard-westwoodrating a few races I thought I would try and contribute some value to each way doubles for this and possibly other events. As mentioned previously the bookies manipulate requested fixed odds in their published returns for computer forecasts and tricasts. What annoys me is that they let you request the odds and then smash up the returns once a race is over. I find this very misleading and distasteful. My thoughts are that if one is rating more than one race on any one day then it could pay to use a different approach and secure the fixed odds requested at the time of placing a bet. This involves using two races instead of one to achieve returns that are not manipulated by the bookies. It means placing a bet on two mixed crossed doubles in two races using two or three selections from each race. When I was trying this out as an experiment I found that Betfair's Sportsbook would not even let me place one bet on two races with two selections. However, Bet365 does allow me to do this. It will allow three selections as well. With two selections in two races, this amounts to 4 bets and with 3 selections in two races, this amounts to 9 bets (hopefully this provides full cover). Obviously, this is not the same as a computer forecast but I can't see that there is a world of difference between one race as opposed to two when placing bets based upon ratings. I will definitely be giving it a go should @richard-westwoodpost up two or more races during the York or any other meeting. "Chance favours the prepared mind" Haha, no one is more prepared than the bookies. Yes I'm at work currently but I'm going to post as many races as I can and have a good go at york ☺ The Equaliser and kensland 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang on Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Bang on said: 2 selections today, 3.20 Muss - Aquamas - 7/4 6.10 Wind - Tomouh - 2/1 Aquamas - WON 2/1 Tomouh - lost - drifted badly late on and ran like it. MCLARKE and cannotbebeat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bang on said: Aquamas - WON 2/1 Tomouh - lost - drifted badly late on and ran like it. You made a profit so that has to be good. Funny how a class 6 runner proved to be better than a class 3 runner. It finished last with Tom Marquand aboard Bang on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannotbebeat Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Somebody put that @kensland man out he is on fire. The Equaliser, kensland and Wildgarden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 10 hours ago, The Equaliser said: My Trixie today is: 1.30 Catt Langholm 2/1 2.50 Muss Graces Quest 15/8 (though I don't like Paul Mulrennan) 5.50 Sou Percussion 3/1 (up 9lbs but @Alistairhas put it up so it must have a good chance) 1 x 4 pt win Trixie = poss retunr of 66.32 Single bets 1.40 Wolv Ringo starlight 1 pt win at 9.00 8.20 Sou Whispering Gypsy 1 pt win at 9/2 (looks a bit short but the Skeltons in good form atm) Total stakes 6 pts I will do a rescue bet on the 3rd leg of the Trixie if necessary RESULTS UPDATE The first one of my Trixie let me down. I find it very tricky when to take notice of the market when a price drifts. The horse was 5/4 last night and 2/1 this morning. Hindsight tells me that I should have passed it over. We live and learn. The other two won and the double paid £11.5. The two singles lost which means a 5.5 profit on the day. The MTD is +44.25 and YTD is - 185.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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