Valiant Thor Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Valiant Thor said: The two +10% EV I had for today are now both NR's so brought in a couple of reserves with a lower +expected value ( I dont normally back them unless I've estimated them to be in my goldilocks zone of +10% > +25% ev ) but these are still IMO just over +5% ev mark, so see how they go. AUG +62.14 SEPT +75.22 10pts...FAUVETTE 10pts...ZIGGY 10pts...FAUVETTE...WON...30 10pts...ZIGGY..........LOST....2nd STAKED...20...RETURNED...30...PROFIT...10 AUG +62.14 SEPT +85.22 Wildgarden, gbettle, MCLARKE and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigwilliam Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 12:38 PM, Nigwilliam said: Red 320 Mutanaaseq 9/2 £10 win Wol 450 Deftera Lad 16/1 £6 win and I swore I'd not do this one again but, Red 420 O'Reilly's Pass 20/1 £2ew. bet365. Lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigwilliam Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Ayr 300 Kylie Rules 16/1 bet365 £10ew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbettle Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 9/12/2021 at 6:17 PM, gbettle said: event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-12 14:35 Chelmsford City Mutafawwig 1.90 5 2021-09-12 14:45 Bath Pretty Sweet 1.62 1 2021-09-12 16:05 Curragh Point Lonsdale 1.70 2 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 0.00 -20.00 Month bets outlay return profit 8 31 620 703.98 83.98 9 12 240 150.48 -89.52 Nearly had it, by a nose event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-15 16:00 Kelso Zafar 1.48 1 2021-09-15 16:10 Beverley At A Pinch 1.23 2 2021-09-15 16:15 Sligo Fancy Foundations 1.71 1 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 12.65 -7.35 Month bets outlay return profit 8 31 620 703.98 83.98 9 15 300 240.06 -59.94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbettle Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-16 13:25 Naas Pirate Jenny 2.10 2021-09-16 14:00 Naas Leinster House 1.90 2021-09-16 14:05 Yarmouth Wajd 2.84 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 133.41 113.41 LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) AUG +62.14 SEPT +85.22 B365 WIN ONLY 5.75pts PLACE ONLY 14.25 place needed for small profit NB..3.75 was freely available by several books when first posted unfortunately all books are now around 3.5 or less, which I have no control over. I calculated sp to be around 3.00 to 3.25 so still some meat left in the sandwich so to speak (if it wins). Edited September 16, 2021 by Valiant Thor Add NB The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 7.30 chelmsford raha 15/2 £10 e/w bet365 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Valiant Thor said: AUG +62.14 SEPT +85.22 B365 WIN ONLY 5.75pts PLACE ONLY 14.25 place needed for small profit NB..3.75 was freely available by several books when first posted unfortunately all books are now around 3.5 or less, which I have no control over. I calculated sp to be around 3.00 to 3.25 so still some meat left in the sandwich so to speak (if it wins). Now 11/10 Its a runaway train The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Pontefract 4.35 ZOOM TIGER 9/4 £20 win BSP LEE-GRAYS and gbettle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbettle Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 10 hours ago, gbettle said: event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-16 13:25 Naas Pirate Jenny 2.10 2021-09-16 14:00 Naas Leinster House 1.90 2021-09-16 14:05 Yarmouth Wajd 2.84 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 133.41 113.41 event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-16 13:25 Naas Pirate Jenny 2.10 NR 2021-09-16 14:00 Naas Leinster House 1.90 1 2021-09-16 14:05 Yarmouth Wajd 2.84 1 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 77.66 57.66 Month bets outlay return profit 8 31 620 703.98 83.98 9 16 320 317.72 -2.28 alexcaruso808, Nigwilliam, peanut peanut and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigwilliam Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 18 hours ago, Nigwilliam said: Ayr 300 Kylie Rules 16/1 bet365 £10ew Lost 6th. Sep. +£140. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Valiant Thor said: AUG +62.14 SEPT +85.22 B365 WIN ONLY 5.75pts PLACE ONLY 14.25 place needed for small profit NB..3.75 was freely available by several books when first posted unfortunately all books are now around 3.5 or less, which I have no control over. I calculated sp to be around 3.00 to 3.25 so still some meat left in the sandwich so to speak (if it wins). WIN ONLY 5.75pts...LOST...2nd PLACE ONLY 14.25...WON...21.37 STAKED...20...RETURNED...21.37...PROFIT...1.37 AUG +62.14 SEPT +86.59 Edited September 16, 2021 by Valiant Thor gbettle, Nigwilliam, The Equaliser and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigwilliam Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Ayr 320 Musicality 18/1 bet365 £10 ew. The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbettle Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-17 13:45 Newbury Silk Romance 1.52 2021-09-17 16:45 Newton Abbot Eglantine Du Seuil 1.03 2021-09-17 16:55 Downpatrick Top Bandit 1.39 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 36.43 16.43 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 21 hours ago, LEE-GRAYS said: 7.30 chelmsford raha 15/2 £10 e/w bet365 lost +£29.60 sept +£1188.60 oct 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Only 2 to chose from today and unfortunately both in same race. Some don't like backing 2 in a race but I look at it as purely a math algorithm and a 34.6% roi IF SUCCESSFUL seems fine by me. B365 prices correct @ time of posting 12.82pts...SHE'S A NOVELTY 7.18pts.....GINGER DU VAL MCLARKE, The Equaliser and Nigwilliam 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6.00 kempton crocus 9/1 £5 e/w 8.00 kempton shyjack 12/1 £5 e/w bet365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Valiant Thor said: Only 2 to chose from today and unfortunately both in same race. Some don't like backing 2 in a race but I look at it as purely a math algorithm and a 34.6% roi IF SUCCESSFUL seems fine by me. B365 prices correct @ time of posting 12.82pts...SHE'S A NOVELTY 7.18pts.....GINGER DU VAL 12.82pts...SHE'S A NOVELTY...LOST...2nd 7.18pts.....GINGER DU VAL......WON...26.92 STAKED...20...RETURNED...26.92...PROFIT...6.92 AUG +62.14 SEPT +93.51 Edited September 17, 2021 by Valiant Thor Update Wildgarden, peanut peanut, MCLARKE and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Kempton 4.50 HURRY UP HEDLEY 5/1 £20 win BSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offramp Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Tomorrow at Navan. I mean Saturday 18/09/2021. 16:05, APPIAN WAY. 20/1. £20 to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbettle Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 13 hours ago, gbettle said: event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-17 13:45 Newbury Silk Romance 1.52 2021-09-17 16:45 Newton Abbot Eglantine Du Seuil 1.03 2021-09-17 16:55 Downpatrick Top Bandit 1.39 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 36.43 16.43 WTF Eglantine Du Seuil?! 1/12 fav beaten - 3rd!!! - by a combined 48/1 runners ... punters sold down the river: "Led, jumped right, 7 lengths ahead 14th, reduced lead when mistake 4 out, pushed along when jumped badly right 2 out, headed when blundered and jockey lost irons last, soon lost second and eased (tchd 1/7)" event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-17 13:45 Newbury Silk Romance 1.52 2 2021-09-17 16:45 Newton Abbot Eglantine Du Seuil 1.03 3 2021-09-17 16:55 Downpatrick Top Bandit 1.39 1 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 0.00 -20.00 Month bets outlay return profit 8 31 620 703.98 83.98 9 17 340 317.72 -22.28 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigwilliam Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, gbettle said: WTF Eglantine Du Seuil?! 1/12 fav beaten - 3rd!!! - by a combined 48/1 runners ... punters sold down the river: "Led, jumped right, 7 lengths ahead 14th, reduced lead when mistake 4 out, pushed along when jumped badly right 2 out, headed when blundered and jockey lost irons last, soon lost second and eased (tchd 1/7)" event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-17 13:45 Newbury Silk Romance 1.52 2 2021-09-17 16:45 Newton Abbot Eglantine Du Seuil 1.03 3 2021-09-17 16:55 Downpatrick Top Bandit 1.39 1 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 0.00 -20.00 Month bets outlay return profit 8 31 620 703.98 83.98 9 17 340 317.72 -22.28 WTF indeed!. Horse must have a thing about 3m2f races. Ran twice at that distance and fell the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 19 hours ago, LEE-GRAYS said: 6.00 kempton crocus 9/1 £5 e/w 8.00 kempton shyjack 12/1 £5 e/w bet365 Lost +£9.60 September +1168.60 Oct 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Nigwilliam said: WTF indeed!. Horse must have a thing about 3m2f races. Ran twice at that distance and fell the first time. Well nobody makes anyone put money on a horse at such cramped odds so I guess you have to accept the consequences of taking what is assumed to be a very small risk. I was watching an old "jumpers and bumpers" video with John Francome in the spotlight the other day. He said that although some trainers make it look easy to get multiple winners in a day sometimes, but people just do not realise how difficult it is to get a horse to a race track and then get it to win. Taking very short odds about any horse is not a sensible option imo unless one has very specialised knowledge and a strategy that is proven to be profitable over time. Offramp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 AUG +62.14 SEPT +93.51 B365 4.12...GUBBAS 8.70...KOY KOY 7.18...THREE DONS One required for break even / small profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbettle Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 event_date Time Course Selection betfair position 2021-09-18 14:50 Newbury Al Aasy 1.71 2021-09-18 14:55 Navan Chemical Energy 1.37 2021-09-18 17:15 Catterick Old Flame 1.6 Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 55.10 35.10 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3.15 newmarket great bear 8/1 £10 e/w bet365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 16 hours ago, gbettle said: WTF Eglantine Du Seuil?! 1/12 fav beaten - 3rd!!! - by a combined 48/1 runners ... punters sold down the river: At those odds you would expect it to lose 1 race out of 13 so not that big a surprise. It is only the same as a horse winning at 12/1 and we don't express amazement when that happens. It is very irritating though when you've backed it, @Alastairwon't be happy because it was his nap in his quest to win the most winners competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: At those odds you would expect it to lose 1 race out of 13 so not that big a surprise. It is only the same as a horse winning at 12/1 and we don't express amazement when that happens. It is very irritating though when you've backed it, @Alastairwon't be happy because it was his nap in his quest to win the most winners competition. I think I've had a 1/25 loser in the past in the competition......... MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 hours ago, The Equaliser said: Well nobody makes anyone put money on a horse at such cramped odds If it wins you make money. One of the safest strategies out there is to back horses that are very short odds. If you had backed all horses this year at odds of 8/13 or less then you would have had 447 winners from 633 runners and a profit of 3%. Longest winning run would have been 13, longest losing run 6. If you had restricted it to odds of 1/4 or less you would have had 109 winners from 120 runners and a profit of 11%. Longest winning run would have been 22 and the longest losing run 3. Nigwilliam, The Equaliser, gbettle and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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