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event_date Time Course Selection betfair position
2021-09-05 13:00 Fontwell Oneonechop 2.18  
2021-09-05 13:30 Fontwell Writteninthesand 1.69  
2021-09-05 15:25 Perth Yccs Portocervo 2.18  
           
           
Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit    
Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 100.76 80.76    
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17 hours ago, Valiant Thor said:

AUG  +62.14
SEPT +19.20

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SOPHIES STAR 5.89pts
MINELLA TRUMP 6.63pts
PAGAN 3.06pts
GREAT EMBASSADOR 4.42PTS

20pts staked ...B365
2 for profit

SOPHIES STAR 5.89pts......................NR   +5.89
MINELLA TRUMP 6.63pts...............WON +13.26
PAGAN 3.06pts.................................LOST
GREAT EMBASSADOR 4.42PTS.......WON +13.26
STAKED 20..RETURNED....32.41...PROFIT +12.41
AUG  +62.14

SEPT +31.61

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5 hours ago, gbettle said:

 

event_date Time Course Selection betfair position
2021-09-05 13:00 Fontwell Oneonechop 2.18  
2021-09-05 13:30 Fontwell Writteninthesand 1.69  
2021-09-05 15:25 Perth Yccs Portocervo 2.18  
           
           
Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit    
Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 100.76 80.76    

 

event_date Time Course Selection betfair position
2021-09-05 13:00 Fontwell Oneonechop 2.18 3
2021-09-05 13:30 Fontwell Writteninthesand 1.69 2
2021-09-05 15:25 Perth Yccs Portocervo 2.18 2
           
           
Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit    
Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 0.00 -20.00    

 

Month bets outlay return profit
8 31 620 703.98 83.98
9 5 100 0 -100.00
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On 9/5/2021 at 8:54 AM, Offramp said:

A Reverse Forecast at Skybet, where they pay up to 5 places.

16:20 at York

Bollin Neil 12/1 &

Battle Angel 10/1

£10 Reverse Forecast = £20.

Bollin Neil cam in at 4th... But I'm afraid that even if Skybet paid out on the first 11 places I wouldn't have get a penny. Battle Angel came in at 12th.

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event_date Time Course Selection betfair position
2021-09-06 14:10 Newton Abbot Kilmington Rose 1.57  
2021-09-06 14:40 Newton Abbot Wagner 1.62  
2021-09-06 17:05 Galway Jazzaway 1.65  
           
           
Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit    
Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 60.02 40.02    
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9 hours ago, gbettle said:

 

event_date Time Course Selection betfair position
2021-09-06 14:10 Newton Abbot Kilmington Rose 1.57  
2021-09-06 14:40 Newton Abbot Wagner 1.62  
2021-09-06 17:05 Galway Jazzaway 1.65  
           
           
Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit    
Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 60.02 40.02    

event_date Time Course Selection betfair position
2021-09-06 14:10 Newton Abbot Kilmington Rose 1.57 1
2021-09-06 14:40 Newton Abbot Wagner 1.62 2
2021-09-06 17:05 Galway Jazzaway 1.65 PU
           
           
Bet Total Outlay Total Return Total Profit    
Trixie 20.00 (4 bets of 5.00) 0.00 -20.00    

 

Month bets outlay return profit
8 31 620 703.98 83.98
9 6 120 0 -120.00
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On 9/5/2021 at 7:17 PM, Valiant Thor said:

AUG  +62.14
SEPT +31.61
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DRUMLEE WATAR..7.59pts
JOHNNY BOOM.....4.82pts
GLORIOUS RIO.......7.59pts

20pts Staked B365
1 winner small profit/break even

DRUMLEE WATAR..7.59pts...NR ...+7.59
JOHNNY BOOM.....4.82pts...LOST...2nd
GLORIOUS RIO.......7.59pts...WON...+20.87
STAKED...20...RETURNED...28.46...PROFIT...8.46
AUG  +62.14

SEPT +40.10

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21 minutes ago, Valiant Thor said:

I dont believe in luck
Everything is quantifiable
 

That’s got my head whirling! Luck definitely exists in my opinion, and may play a part in the outcome of an individual bet (as in bad bets can win and good bets can lose) but, in the long run, you get what you deserve. Most punters fail to appreciate how much the outcome of a sporting event is determined by luck rather than the skill of the participants (hence the fallacy of “buying money”).

I don’t know if literally everything is quantifiable but I agree that most things are, though most punters only scratch the surface of actually doing so. I think one of the most productive things you could do is quantify how much the result of any given event is determined by the skill of the participants and how much by luck. So I think you have to believe in luck if only to quantify it! :eyes

I definitely think that most punters tend to attribute winning bets to their skill and judgement and losing ones to bad luck.

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2 minutes ago, harry_rag said:

That’s got my head whirling! Luck definitely exists in my opinion, and may play a part in the outcome of an individual bet (as in bad bets can win and good bets can lose) but, in the long run, you get what you deserve. Most punters fail to appreciate how much the outcome of a sporting event is determined by luck rather than the skill of the participants (hence the fallacy of “buying money”).

I don’t know if literally everything is quantifiable but I agree that most things are, though most punters only scratch the surface of actually doing so. I think one of the most productive things you could do is quantify how much the result of any given event is determined by the skill of the participants and how much by luck. So I think you have to believe in luck if only to quantify it! :eyes

I definitely think that most punters tend to attribute winning bets to their skill and judgement and losing ones to bad luck.

People especial punters use luck as an emotional crutch IMO
The horse in question where 'unlucky' was mentioned was Johnny Boom which lost by a nose, why is that classed as unlucky
does that mean the other horse was lucky, there could be numerous reasons , horse tiring jockey went to soon or too late etc .
An event can only be expressed as a static %age chance in your /mine opinion before the event and then only using past and some present available data.
Once the event starts it then becomes dynamic , just because we cant quantify what happens in its dynamic state does not make it luck or bad luck whatever the final event happens to be, it is what it is so get over it.
Its similar to a punter bemoaning his 2/7 shot losing as his last £ goes down the pan . (they still lose 23% of the time) but that never entered his perception of how things would turn out , so blames everyone but himself for backing it,

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