World Cup Qualifiers 10/11 October 2009

[benaarondavies]

Saturday 10 October 2009 Home Draw Away BPP Zambia v Egypt (13:00 BST) 3.75 3.55 2.1 102.45 % Malawi v Côte d'Ivoire (13:30 BST) 9.2 4.7 1.41 103.07 % Finland v Wales (15:00 BST) 1.97 3.7 4.4 100.52 % Cameroon v Togo (15:30 BST) 1.52 3.9 8.2 103.63 % Gabon v Morocco (15:30 BST) 2.08 3.65 3.5 104.05 % Belarus v Kazakhstan (16:00 BST) 1.35 5.4 10.5 102.12 % Russia v Germany (16:00 BST) 2.5 3.5 2.96 102.36 % Bahrain v New Zealand (16:30 BST) 1.53 3.75 6.25 107.88 % Luxembourg v Switzerland (16:45 BST) 23 10 1.13 102.84 % Armenia v Spain (17:00 BST) 18 7.8 1.22 100.34 % Estonia v Bosnia-Herzegovina (17:00 BST) 7 4.2 1.55 102.61 % Ukraine v England (17:15 BST) 2.7 3.75 2.76 99.94 % Cyprus v Bulgaria (18:00 BST) 4.9 3.6 1.8 103.74 % Montenegro v Georgia (18:00 BST) 1.72 3.5 4.5 108.69 % Denmark v Sweden (19:00 BST) 2.5 3.5 3.1 100.83 % Liechtenstein v Azerbaijan (19:00 BST) 3.5 3.3 2.36 101.25 % Austria v Lithuania (19:30 BST) 1.82 3.85 4.6 102.66 % Czech Republic v Poland (19:30 BST) 1.57 4 6.6 103.79 % Greece v Latvia (19:30 BST) 1.36 6 10 100.20 % Serbia v Romania (19:30 BST) 1.63 4.1 6.4 101.36 % Slovakia v Slovenia (19:30 BST) 2.28 2.8 5 99.57 % Belgium v Turkey (19:45 BST) 3.75 3.5 2.13 102.19 % France v Faroe Islands (20:00 BST) 1.01 55 150 101.49 % Israel v Moldova (20:00 BST) 1.23 6.8 15 102.67 % Republic of Ireland v Italy (20:00 BST) 3.5 3.2 2.4 101.49 % Portugal v Hungary (20:45 BST) 1.2 9 16.5 100.51 % Argentina v Peru (23:00 BST) 1.18 9.2 17 101.37 % Colombia v Chile (23:00 BST) 2.24 3.4 3.5 102.63 % Ecuador v Uruguay (23:00 BST) 1.94 3.5 4.5 102.34 % Mexico v El Salvador (23:00 BST) 1.21 6 15 105.98 % Venezuela v Paraguay (23:00 BST) 2.28 3.75 3.3 100.83 % Sunday 11 October 2009 Home Draw Away BPP Costa Rica v Trinidad and Tobago (03:00 BST) 1.43 5 9 101.04 % Honduras v USA (03:00 BST) 3 3.45 2.26 106.57 % Benin v Ghana (16:00 BST) 4.3 2.84 1.87 111.94 % Nigeria v Mozambique (17:00 BST) 1.22 1.31 1.38 230.77 % Tunisia v Kenya (17:00 BST) 1.22 1.28 1.35 234.17 % Guinea v Burkina Faso (18:00 BST) 2.24 3.55 3.4 102.22 % Mali v Sudan (19:00 BST) 1.15 1.18 1.25 251.70 % Algeria v Rwanda (19:15 BST) 1.19 7.8 12 105.19 % Bolivia v Brazil (21:00 BST) 4.9 3.85 1.76 103.20 %

[Mahno]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 It's a bit to early,eh? Well,for some teams those last 2 matches are not important at all so i expect them play for fun. Let's take Liechtenstein v Azerbaijan.What do they play for?Nothing...but i like the price on home team @3.5.Last round they hold Finland 1-1 so i'm sure if they try harder they can beat Azerbaijan or even handicap will look ok. Luxembourg to surprise Switzerland?Switzerland must be lay at this silly price so Luxembourg on handicap should be ok. If Ronaldo will not recover till Saturday then Portugal @1.2 is lay for me or Hungary on handicap. Montenegro @1.72 at home to beat poor Georgia- yes please.Montenegro only lost at home to Italy. Can't see Turkey not to go to WC.Will take them at @2.0 to beat Belgium.If Turkey will play as good as they played friendly match against us then i see an easy win for them. Now,my english friends the question is will you give us a ticket to WC?Ukraine need to win at home in order to qualify,it will be hard...very hard.England are already through and i know they don't really want Croatia to go to WC so...will you or will you not let us win?;) Only my early opinion,still will wait for teams news and some local news from you guys. GL :ok

[Jase82]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 Finland to beat Wales and Turkey to beat Belgium would be my best picks right now. Obviously best to wait for team news first. Both Belgium and Wales are playing poor football and spectacularly spiralling out of the World Cup with a whimper. Wales have only managed to beat Liechenstein and Ajerbaijan in this group. Finland beat them 2-0 in Cardiff, so I'd give them the edge. Turkey lost their last two against Spain, but are still ahead of Belguim. Belgium have lost their last three in a row now.

[1907zico]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 We missed the train to WC long ago. No sense really to win this match. Won't bet on Turkey this round for sure.

[jazzmorris]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 I have put a double on Germany and England to do the business.

[kojic2003]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 Serbia go into the Romania match without the services of Danko Lazovic (PSV Eindhoven) who's ruled out through suspension, while the likes of Nemanja Matic (Chelsea) and Miralem Sulejmani (Ajax) will join the U21 side for two upcoming European Championship Qualifying matches. Ivan Obradovic's still struggling to overcome some injury problems and is doubtful for this match, but will be included in the squad. SERBIA Goalkeepers: Vladimir Stojkovic (Sporting Lisbon), Vladimir Disljenkovic (Metalurg Donetsk), Bojan Isailovic (Cukaricki) Defenders: Branislav Ivanovic (Chelsea), Antonio Rukavina (TSV 1860 Munchen), Nemanja Vidic (Manchester United), Neven Subotic (Borussia Dortmund), Aleksandar Lukovic (Udinese), Ivica Dragutinovic (FC Sevilla), Ivan Obradovic (Zaragoza), Aleksandar Kolarov (Lazio) Midfielders: Dejan Stankovic (Inter Milan), Gojko Kacar (Hertha BSC), Nenad Milijas (Wolverhampton), Zdravko Kuzmanovic (VfB Stuttgart), Radosav Petrovic (Partizan), Milos Krasic (CSKA Moscow), Zoran Tosic (Manchester United), Milos Ninkovic (Dynamo Kiev) Forwards: Nikola Zigic (Valencia), Marko Pantelic (Ajax), Milan Jovanovic (Standard Liege), Marko Milinkovic (MFK Kosice) Serbia: Stojkovic - Ivanovic, Vidic, Lukovic, Dragutinovic (Obradovic) - Krasic, Stankovic, Milijas, Jovanovic - Zigic, Pantelic The price is so-so, but Serbia simply must beat Romania if they're to avoid any kind of troubles ahead of last round, so I expect to see them, on the back of 55'000 fans, putting Romania under pressure from very first minute. Serbia(1.63) to beat Romania!

[sajtion]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

I have put a double on Germany and England to do the business.

that is terrible bet england are qualified and could field weaker team. ukraine will give their all to catch up to croatia in group russia is capable of beating germany and has bigger advantage. with the likes of gomes, podolski and close not in form for germany i don't know on what basis you made that bet my thoughts are both games will finish as draw

[Tulenos]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

I have put a double on Germany and England to do the business.

This REALLY needs some solid reasoning, mate - putting two qualified teams into a double is a foolish bet at least.

[HastGill1]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

This REALLY needs some solid reasoning' date=' mate - putting two qualified teams into a double is a foolish bet at least.[/quote'] I understand why the guys getting a bit of stick as he didnt put any reasoning behind the bet but I dont see it as being the worst bet in the world, i cant see either country putting out a weakened side, why would they? The coaches get precious little time with the players as it is, i think there is little chance of them resting players when they have the opportunity to play them together and further improve understandings within the side.. The motivation factor doesnt carry much weight with me either, it doesnt work out when betting on club matches near the end of a season with any consistency and i dont see why internationals will be any different, just because an inferior nation needs a win over a superior side doesnt mean they will get it..these players are also playing for the opportunity of playing in a finals tournament so now is no time to start relaxing or lowering standards.. Guess it is down to an individuals betting philosophy and im not really refering to what this person has bet on specifically, but just a few things I would keep in mind when looking at the fixtures in general :ok Feel free to disagree!..

[Jase82]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

I understand why the guys getting a bit of stick as he didnt put any reasoning behind the bet but I dont see it as being the worst bet in the world' date=' i cant see either country putting out a weakened side, why would they? [/quote'] Capello has stated that he will put out a full strength side for the first half, but will make changes for the 2nd half. I think that Ukraine are several levels below where England are currently, but I still have this naggling doubt that we will scrape a draw out there. We have qualified and look great at times under Capello, but I can see us conceding and possibly drawing.

[dealer_dil]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 Czech Republic versus Poland Poland's squad: Goalkeepers: Jerzy Dudek (Real Madryt), Wojciech Kowalewski (Iraklis) Defenders: Jarosław Bieniuk (Widzew Łódź), Seweryn Gancarczyk (Lech Poznań), Arkadiusz Głowacki (Wisła Kraków), Mariusz Pawelec (Śląsk Wrocław), Tomasz Jodłowiec(Polonia Warszawa), Piotr Polczak(Cracovia), Jakub Rzeźniczak(Legia Warszawa) Midfielders: Jakub "Kuba" Blaszczykowski(Borussia Dortmund), Roger(AEK Athens), Maciej Iwański(Legia), Mariusz Lewandowski(Szachtar Donieck), Ludovic Obraniak(Lille), Sławomir Peszko(Lech), Łukasz Piszczek(Hertha), Jakub Wilk(Lech) Strikers: Paweł Brożek(Wisła), Kamil Grosicki(Jagiellonia), Dawid Janczyk(Lokeren), Ireneusz Jeleń(Auxerre), Robert Lewandowski(Lech) From this final list two players are already out: Lukasz Piszczek(he can play as a fullback, left or right and also as a striker, very universal player, but not to good on any of those positions) and central defender Tomasz Jodlowiec. For Piszczek coach called up... a central defender Adam Kokoszka from Empoli(Serie B) who played some matches in his club, but at the moment he is a bench player. Well, now I must say some words about new coach- Stefan Majewski. Unfortunately no chances for any nice words about him. He is a guy without any big success in our domestic league, he learned in Germany, but he never coached any professional German club. He is called a "temporary coach", because he has not a long term contract- he will be a coach for 4 next matches, and maybe if Poland will win some game(for example friendly against Chile or Romania) his friend- chairman Grzegorz Lato will decide to give him new, long contract. About players: Goalkeepers- wtf?! This is disgraceful. Dudek is old player who love earning money just for warming the bench, he is pathetic. Second Gk Kowalewski is licksplitte and only thanks to that he collected 10 appearances in Poland's National Team. Really poor goalkeepers. Even fat, stupid Boruc is better. In my opinion if we choose from goalkeepers who are reserve goalkeepers in their clubs Tomasz Kuszczak from Man U should get a chance, also some goalkeepers from domestic league are in nice form- Skaba from Polonia Bytom or maybe Bak from Lechia. Defenders: Left defender: Gancarczyk is OK, solid player who can also do something in attack and also he can shoot from free kicks- this is important because Poland from such a long, long time was without set-piece specialist, maybe also fresh face in our team- L. Obraniak is good free kicks taker. Central defenders: Głowacki in my opinion play for sure. He is solid defender, but he often failed in important matches- some silly mistakes, some stupid penalties, red cards, own goals. When we play important match this guy is dangerous for his own team. I have no idea who will be second central defender. I guess that this will be Polczak, because Majewski know him from Cracovia. Polczak is young, and he is nothing special, but if coach likes you things are much simpler. Right defender: Our clever coach called up only one right defender- Rzeźniczak is 22 years old, he always play in first "11" in his team so it is not so bad choice after all. Those guys will be playing together for a first time so this can be big problem. Midfielders: Right midfielder: Blaszczykowski was very good in last season. At the moment he is in poor form. Even at Borussia Dortmund he was on the bench in last match. His speed, dribbling are not so dangerous at the moment, he was also never good in goals scoring. On right side we can also see Sławomir Peszko- he is one of the best players in our league. Former coach was too old and too unqualified to give this guy chance. In my opinion he is better choice AT THE MOMENT than Blaszczykowski, but I really doubt if he has any chances to play from first minute. Central midfielders: DMC Mariusz Lewandowski will play for sure, you can say what you want, but it's really hard to replace him- Murawski is only bench player at Rubin Kazan, Sobolewski from Wisła resigned from national team long time ago, Bandrowski from Lech is a joke. I think that Borysiuk from Legia should get a chance- he is only 18 years old and already is regular player in his team. But our coaches are too stupid to give this boy chance in National Team, they talking much crap about that Rooney, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo are so young and so great already, but our Polish assholes can't even imagine, that someday, someone was brave enough to give those young players a chance to play in higher level. Back to Lewandowski: at the moment he is regular player at Shakhtar Donetsk and I expect solid performance from him. I think that second midfielder will be Roger- he was reserve player when he was in Legia, now in AEK he play in first "11". He has nice technique, some clever passing skills, but his stamina and play making are not so impressive. Left midfielder: Ludovic Obraniak probably play here. He is a Frenchman, but thanks to grandfather from Poland he can play in our National Team, he already played in three games. Old coach Leo Beenhakker did not like him at all, I hope that Majewski gives more credit to Obraniak. Unfortunately, he had some problems at Lille and he is not so good as he was in last season. I'm also able to imagine that: Blaszczykowski will be left midfielder, Peszko will be right midfielder and with Mariusz Lewandowski we see Obraniak(Roger finally on bench). But this is just my imagination- this is possible, but Majewski is too close minded to even think about that. Attack: First of all: Majewski said that Poland will be playing with two strikers. This is very good change, because we played really crappy in 4-5-1 formation. But i have one big doubt: what really mean that we will be playing with two strikers? Is this be something like for example in Wolfsburg(Graffite and Dzeko) where is two typical strikers or maybe like in other clubs where is only one typical striker and second guy is typical offensive midfielder who must play as "shadow striker"? I hope that we finally will play with two TYPICAL strikers, but with our coaches we can never be sure... I have no idea which strikers we will see against Czech Republic. I just can say that: Paweł Brożek(4 goals and 5 asists in 9 league matches) is far from so impressive performance from last season. He is not a goal hunter anymore, his club is dominating in our league, but Brożek... I don't know... he is not so good as he was in last season. Robert Lewandowski(5 goals and 1 asists in 8 matches) is hero in polish newspapers, but he and his team show average performance. I get feeling that Lewandowski and Brozek have those good statistics only thanks to poor level of our domestic league. Dawid Janczyk from Lokeren(5 goals and 1 asists 8 matches)- I don't watch Belgian league so I don't know much about this guy. He is 22 years old. When he was in Poland he was nothing special for me, but for CSKA Moscow he was prospect player. Now he is on loan(?) at Lokeren and finally has a chance to show his skills. In my opinion he will be on the bench. Ireneusz Jeleń from Auxerre was really excellent in last season, but then, he was long time injured. In this season he played only 184 minutes in Ligue 1. Without a goal, without asists and unfortunately with a red card. He has good speed and he is good striker, he has big chances for play on Saturday. Kamil Grosicki(3 goals & 2 asists) from domestic league. He is in very good form- in his club he play as right offensive midfielder so his stats are not so impressive, but he has great speed, and the best technique from all polish players. He is on fire, but... I really doubt if he get a chance from first minute in this match. That's all from me, sorry for my English. I post my picks later, because first: I have really important questions about hosts: 1. Are they still believe that they can qualify for World Cup 2010? 2. Do they like their temporary coach?

[gotstoned]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

that is terrible bet england are qualified and could field weaker team. ukraine will give their all to catch up to croatia in group russia is capable of beating germany and has bigger advantage. with the likes of gomes, podolski and close not in form for germany i don't know on what basis you made that bet my thoughts are both games will finish as draw

This also is a terrible way to think about the game. England are qualified yes, but they will field only players going to the WC. Their bench players are more than capable of handling Ukraine and being players that dont normally start they will want to absolutely shine before the WC starts. England at +165 Slovakia +115 Looks like my favorite bet, they have played so well during the qualifiers and I think they will want to finish it that way with a win against slovenia at home.

[sajtion]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

This also is a terrible way to think about the game. England are qualified yes, but they will field only players going to the WC. Their bench players are more than capable of handling Ukraine and being players that dont normally start they will want to absolutely shine before the WC starts. England at +165 Slovakia +115 Looks like my favorite bet, they have played so well during the qualifiers and I think they will want to finish it that way with a win against slovenia at home.

my thought is that england generally don't play that well with east european cuntries. the style of football is different but i have doubt that england has the strenght and quality to beat teams like ukraine you have to realise they have nothing to gain by winning while ukraine is chasing play offs. for that reason only most likely ukraine win or draw

[Mahno]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 Price on Montenegro is going down already.Took them yesterday at @1.72 and it's @1.66 now,i expect them to be around @1.4 on Saturday. What about our match against England?We didn't look doomed at Wembley,Sheva even scored and we could end up with 1 point if not a goal on 82' min.Myhailechenko is a rubish coach.All will depend whom he will bring on the picth.I don't want to see Milevsky and Aliev even near the pitch,two young men with cocky attitude-i would bring instead Kravets-Yarmolenko pair as lads are more down to earth at the moment.Sheva should lead the team as he has an experience and know England and their players very well.We have to play agressive if we want to win against team who are few levels above us.No bet for me.

[Tulenos]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

Czech Republic versus Poland Poland's squad: Goalkeepers: Jerzy Dudek (Real Madryt), Wojciech Kowalewski (Iraklis) Defenders: Jarosław Bieniuk (Widzew ŁÃ³dź), Seweryn Gancarczyk (Lech Poznań), Arkadiusz Głowacki (Wisła Kraków), Mariusz Pawelec (Śląsk Wrocław), Tomasz Jodłowiec(Polonia Warszawa), Piotr Polczak(Cracovia), Jakub Rzeźniczak(Legia Warszawa) Midfielders: Jakub "Kuba" Blaszczykowski(Borussia Dortmund), Roger(AEK Athens), Maciej Iwański(Legia), Mariusz Lewandowski(Szachtar Donieck), Ludovic Obraniak(Lille), Sławomir Peszko(Lech), Łukasz Piszczek(Hertha), Jakub Wilk(Lech) Strikers: Paweł Brożek(Wisła), Kamil Grosicki(Jagiellonia), Dawid Janczyk(Lokeren), Ireneusz Jeleń(Auxerre), Robert Lewandowski(Lech) From this final list two players are already out: Lukasz Piszczek(he can play as a fullback, left or right and also as a striker, very universal player, but not to good on any of those positions) and central defender Tomasz Jodlowiec. For Piszczek coach called up... a central defender Adam Kokoszka from Empoli(Serie B) who played some matches in his club, but at the moment he is a bench player. Well, now I must say some words about new coach- Stefan Majewski. Unfortunately no chances for any nice words about him. He is a guy without any big success in our domestic league, he learned in Germany, but he never coached any professional German club. He is called a "temporary coach", because he has not a long term contract- he will be a coach for 4 next matches, and maybe if Poland will win some game(for example friendly against Chile or Romania) his friend- chairman Grzegorz Lato will decide to give him new, long contract. About players: Goalkeepers- wtf?! This is disgraceful. Dudek is old player who love earning money just for warming the bench, he is pathetic. Second Gk Kowalewski is licksplitte and only thanks to that he collected 10 appearances in Poland's National Team. Really poor goalkeepers. Even fat, stupid Boruc is better. In my opinion if we choose from goalkeepers who are reserve goalkeepers in their clubs Tomasz Kuszczak from Man U should get a chance, also some goalkeepers from domestic league are in nice form- Skaba from Polonia Bytom or maybe Bak from Lechia. Defenders: Left defender: Gancarczyk is OK, solid player who can also do something in attack and also he can shoot from free kicks- this is important because Poland from such a long, long time was without set-piece specialist, maybe also fresh face in our team- L. Obraniak is good free kicks taker. Central defenders: Głowacki in my opinion play for sure. He is solid defender, but he often failed in important matches- some silly mistakes, some stupid penalties, red cards, own goals. When we play important match this guy is dangerous for his own team. I have no idea who will be second central defender. I guess that this will be Polczak, because Majewski know him from Cracovia. Polczak is young, and he is nothing special, but if coach likes you things are much simpler. Right defender: Our clever coach called up only one right defender- Rzeźniczak is 22 years old, he always play in first "11" in his team so it is not so bad choice after all. Those guys will be playing together for a first time so this can be big problem. Midfielders: Right midfielder: Blaszczykowski was very good in last season. At the moment he is in poor form. Even at Borussia Dortmund he was on the bench in last match. His speed, dribbling are not so dangerous at the moment, he was also never good in goals scoring. On right side we can also see Sławomir Peszko- he is one of the best players in our league. Former coach was too old and too unqualified to give this guy chance. In my opinion he is better choice AT THE MOMENT than Blaszczykowski, but I really doubt if he has any chances to play from first minute. Central midfielders: DMC Mariusz Lewandowski will play for sure, you can say what you want, but it's really hard to replace him- Murawski is only bench player at Rubin Kazan, Sobolewski from Wisła resigned from national team long time ago, Bandrowski from Lech is a joke. I think that Borysiuk from Legia should get a chance- he is only 18 years old and already is regular player in his team. But our coaches are too stupid to give this boy chance in National Team, they talking much crap about that Rooney, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo are so young and so great already, but our Polish assholes can't even imagine, that someday, someone was brave enough to give those young players a chance to play in higher level. Back to Lewandowski: at the moment he is regular player at Shakhtar Donetsk and I expect solid performance from him. I think that second midfielder will be Roger- he was reserve player when he was in Legia, now in AEK he play in first "11". He has nice technique, some clever passing skills, but his stamina and play making are not so impressive. Left midfielder: Ludovic Obraniak probably play here. He is a Frenchman, but thanks to grandfather from Poland he can play in our National Team, he already played in three games. Old coach Leo Beenhakker did not like him at all, I hope that Majewski gives more credit to Obraniak. Unfortunately, he had some problems at Lille and he is not so good as he was in last season. I'm also able to imagine that: Blaszczykowski will be left midfielder, Peszko will be right midfielder and with Mariusz Lewandowski we see Obraniak(Roger finally on bench). But this is just my imagination- this is possible, but Majewski is too close minded to even think about that. Attack: First of all: Majewski said that Poland will be playing with two strikers. This is very good change, because we played really crappy in 4-5-1 formation. But i have one big doubt: what really mean that we will be playing with two strikers? Is this be something like for example in Wolfsburg(Graffite and Dzeko) where is two typical strikers or maybe like in other clubs where is only one typical striker and second guy is typical offensive midfielder who must play as "shadow striker"? I hope that we finally will play with two TYPICAL strikers, but with our coaches we can never be sure... I have no idea which strikers we will see against Czech Republic. I just can say that: Paweł Brożek(4 goals and 5 asists in 9 league matches) is far from so impressive performance from last season. He is not a goal hunter anymore, his club is dominating in our league, but Brożek... I don't know... he is not so good as he was in last season. Robert Lewandowski(5 goals and 1 asists in 8 matches) is hero in polish newspapers, but he and his team show average performance. I get feeling that Lewandowski and Brozek have those good statistics only thanks to poor level of our domestic league. Dawid Janczyk from Lokeren(5 goals and 1 asists 8 matches)- I don't watch Belgian league so I don't know much about this guy. He is 22 years old. When he was in Poland he was nothing special for me, but for CSKA Moscow he was prospect player. Now he is on loan(?) at Lokeren and finally has a chance to show his skills. In my opinion he will be on the bench. Ireneusz Jeleń from Auxerre was really excellent in last season, but then, he was long time injured. In this season he played only 184 minutes in Ligue 1. Without a goal, without asists and unfortunately with a red card. He has good speed and he is good striker, he has big chances for play on Saturday. Kamil Grosicki(3 goals & 2 asists) from domestic league. He is in very good form- in his club he play as right offensive midfielder so his stats are not so impressive, but he has great speed, and the best technique from all polish players. He is on fire, but... I really doubt if he get a chance from first minute in this match. That's all from me, sorry for my English. I post my picks later, because first: I have really important questions about hosts: 1. Are they still believe that they can qualify for World Cup 2010? 2. Are they like their temporary coach?

Answers 1 - Yes, especially as they belive that the Slovaks will beat Slovenia - it's not only in the media, but Hasek is the kind of coach who never gives up until there is no hope. 2 - I suppose this question should be DO they like the...? In this case, yes. For starters, he's not an ordinary interim coach, he's the new boss of Czech football who made it his mission not to give up and do his best to get to the WC. He was backed almost unanimously for the FA president and decided it's best to manage the national team for now. He's a big name for the players too and after a dismal period under Rada, all players started to be interested in playing in the national team. So they will do their best to win the remaining matches. There is on question missing though - are the Czech players anywhere near their predecessors from 1996 to 2002? Not at all. There are basically two big names - Petr Cech (who used to be faultless until the head injury, but is prone to mistakes now) and Tomas Rosicky (who is made of biscuits), there are a few starlets and some hard-working players, but that's it. And it's basically the best the country has to offer - the likes of Skacel and Bednar were tested on this level and failed badly. The talent is gone and it will take some time for such a small country to get anywhere near the top again (10 to 20 years). Still, I think CR is capable of beating Poland atm and make for an interesting finale of the qualification (if the Slovaks beat the Slovenians). Again, the faith is there, but it's not all.

[willemedkniven]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 Insanely high odds on Hungary to draw (9.8 on betfair) or to win (17 on betfair) against a Portugal who hasn´t impressed me at all so far. Portugal probably will win in the end, by a crappy goal in the 93d or something, but I still don´t think that a draw or even a hungarian win is something that would surprise anyone. A watched Hungary-Sweden, and even though Sweden were the better team, we were lucky to get away with the three points. They have a good defense and an away game like this suits them just fine. I didn´t see the Hungary-Portugal game, but given that it was "only" a 0-1 win for the portuguese I bet it was a close one too? And, given that I´m Swedish, I´m going for the Hungarians anyways, so I might just put a little bit of money on them too.

[Menthol]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 I'm on England. A full strength squad for starters, and Capello will surely not want to lose his 100% qualifying record. I think playing a few "fringe" players could be a good idea, since they'll be out to prove themselves. The England team is highly motivated and determined. The likes of Gerrard, Beckham, Lampard, and Terry won't lie down just because they've already progressed. All the pressure is on Ukraine, which could make them nervy and try to force openings. Pressure and nerves leads to sloppy play. Knowing Ukraine will have to attack England to try and earn 3 points leads me to suspect they'll be easy pickings on the break... probably in the 2nd half. 0-0 half time, 2-0 England full time. For a squad like England to be at 2.70 must be value. The only reason to bet against England is fear over their "lack" of motivation. Personally, I don't think this is an issue.

[ninimika]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

Finland to beat Wales and Turkey to beat Belgium would be my best picks right now. Obviously best to wait for team news first.

Belgium 1x at 1.9 worth a try here....after a terrible defeat against Armenia(but it was not really a surprise,ex coach Vercauteren said in interview that it was impossible to talk to some players before the match,it was obvious that they didn't want him anymore). It's the 1st match of Advocaat and T3 Wilmots(ex player and a real leader on the pitch)we already seen a change in the approach with the players(he called some of them) and the journalists,of course he will not make miracles in 2 matchs but with a new tactic and some important players back like Vermaelen,Fellaini,Verthonghen i try 1x ... Belgium squad: Gardiens: Logan Bailly (Mönchengladbach/All), Jean-François Gillet (Bari/Ita) Défenseurs: Toby Alderweireld (Ajax/P-B), Olivier Deschacht (Anderlecht), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit Saint Petersbourg/Rus), Gill Swerts (AZ Alkmaar/P-B), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern Munich/All), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal/Ang) Milieux: Mehdi Carcela (Standard), Marouane Fellaini (Everton/Ang), Gaby Mudingayi (Bologne/Ita), Jan Vertonghen (Ajax/P-B) Attaquants: Igor De Camargo (Standard), Moussa Dembélé (AZ Alkmaar/P-B), Tom De Sutter (Anderlecht), Eden Hazard (Lille/Fra), Roland Lamah (Le Mans/Fra), Kevin Mirallas (Saint-Etienne/Fra), Wesley Sonck (FC Bruges), Emile Mpenza (FC Sion/Sui)

[Smooth Jimmy]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

Insanely high odds on Hungary to draw (9.8 on betfair) or to win (17 on betfair) against a Portugal who hasn´t impressed me at all so far. Portugal probably will win in the end, by a crappy goal in the 93d or something, but I still don´t think that a draw or even a hungarian win is something that would surprise anyone. A watched Hungary-Sweden, and even though Sweden were the better team, we were lucky to get away with the three points. They have a good defense and an away game like this suits them just fine. I didn´t see the Hungary-Portugal game, but given that it was "only" a 0-1 win for the portuguese I bet it was a close one too? And, given that I´m Swedish, I´m going for the Hungarians anyways, so I might just put a little bit of money on them too.

If this game was earlier in the qualifying I'd probably agree with you, man, but I think Portugal are finally sorting things out, and if Ronaldo plays, I'll def be looking at them as one of my bets.

[Bandog]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

Czech Republic versus Poland Poland's squad: Goalkeepers: Jerzy Dudek (Real Madryt), Wojciech Kowalewski (Iraklis) Defenders: Jarosław Bieniuk (Widzew ŁÃ³dź), Seweryn Gancarczyk (Lech Poznań), Arkadiusz Głowacki (Wisła Kraków), Mariusz Pawelec (Śląsk Wrocław), Tomasz Jodłowiec(Polonia Warszawa), Piotr Polczak(Cracovia), Jakub Rzeźniczak(Legia Warszawa) Midfielders: Jakub "Kuba" Blaszczykowski(Borussia Dortmund), Roger(AEK Athens), Maciej Iwański(Legia), Mariusz Lewandowski(Szachtar Donieck), Ludovic Obraniak(Lille), Sławomir Peszko(Lech), Łukasz Piszczek(Hertha), Jakub Wilk(Lech) Strikers: Paweł Brożek(Wisła), Kamil Grosicki(Jagiellonia), Dawid Janczyk(Lokeren), Ireneusz Jeleń(Auxerre), Robert Lewandowski(Lech) From this final list two players are already out: Lukasz Piszczek(he can play as a fullback, left or right and also as a striker, very universal player, but not to good on any of those positions) and central defender Tomasz Jodlowiec. For Piszczek coach called up... a central defender Adam Kokoszka from Empoli(Serie B) who played some matches in his club, but at the moment he is a bench player. Well, now I must say some words about new coach- Stefan Majewski. Unfortunately no chances for any nice words about him. He is a guy without any big success in our domestic league, he learned in Germany, but he never coached any professional German club. He is called a "temporary coach", because he has not a long term contract- he will be a coach for 4 next matches, and maybe if Poland will win some game(for example friendly against Chile or Romania) his friend- chairman Grzegorz Lato will decide to give him new, long contract. About players: Goalkeepers- wtf?! This is disgraceful. Dudek is old player who love earning money just for warming the bench, he is pathetic. Second Gk Kowalewski is licksplitte and only thanks to that he collected 10 appearances in Poland's National Team. Really poor goalkeepers. Even fat, stupid Boruc is better. In my opinion if we choose from goalkeepers who are reserve goalkeepers in their clubs Tomasz Kuszczak from Man U should get a chance, also some goalkeepers from domestic league are in nice form- Skaba from Polonia Bytom or maybe Bak from Lechia. Defenders: Left defender: Gancarczyk is OK, solid player who can also do something in attack and also he can shoot from free kicks- this is important because Poland from such a long, long time was without set-piece specialist, maybe also fresh face in our team- L. Obraniak is good free kicks taker. Central defenders: Głowacki in my opinion play for sure. He is solid defender, but he often failed in important matches- some silly mistakes, some stupid penalties, red cards, own goals. When we play important match this guy is dangerous for his own team. I have no idea who will be second central defender. I guess that this will be Polczak, because Majewski know him from Cracovia. Polczak is young, and he is nothing special, but if coach likes you things are much simpler. Right defender: Our clever coach called up only one right defender- Rzeźniczak is 22 years old, he always play in first "11" in his team so it is not so bad choice after all. Those guys will be playing together for a first time so this can be big problem. Midfielders: Right midfielder: Blaszczykowski was very good in last season. At the moment he is in poor form. Even at Borussia Dortmund he was on the bench in last match. His speed, dribbling are not so dangerous at the moment, he was also never good in goals scoring. On right side we can also see Sławomir Peszko- he is one of the best players in our league. Former coach was too old and too unqualified to give this guy chance. In my opinion he is better choice AT THE MOMENT than Blaszczykowski, but I really doubt if he has any chances to play from first minute. Central midfielders: DMC Mariusz Lewandowski will play for sure, you can say what you want, but it's really hard to replace him- Murawski is only bench player at Rubin Kazan, Sobolewski from Wisła resigned from national team long time ago, Bandrowski from Lech is a joke. I think that Borysiuk from Legia should get a chance- he is only 18 years old and already is regular player in his team. But our coaches are too stupid to give this boy chance in National Team, they talking much crap about that Rooney, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo are so young and so great already, but our Polish assholes can't even imagine, that someday, someone was brave enough to give those young players a chance to play in higher level. Back to Lewandowski: at the moment he is regular player at Shakhtar Donetsk and I expect solid performance from him. I think that second midfielder will be Roger- he was reserve player when he was in Legia, now in AEK he play in first "11". He has nice technique, some clever passing skills, but his stamina and play making are not so impressive. Left midfielder: Ludovic Obraniak probably play here. He is a Frenchman, but thanks to grandfather from Poland he can play in our National Team, he already played in three games. Old coach Leo Beenhakker did not like him at all, I hope that Majewski gives more credit to Obraniak. Unfortunately, he had some problems at Lille and he is not so good as he was in last season. I'm also able to imagine that: Blaszczykowski will be left midfielder, Peszko will be right midfielder and with Mariusz Lewandowski we see Obraniak(Roger finally on bench). But this is just my imagination- this is possible, but Majewski is too close minded to even think about that. Attack: First of all: Majewski said that Poland will be playing with two strikers. This is very good change, because we played really crappy in 4-5-1 formation. But i have one big doubt: what really mean that we will be playing with two strikers? Is this be something like for example in Wolfsburg(Graffite and Dzeko) where is two typical strikers or maybe like in other clubs where is only one typical striker and second guy is typical offensive midfielder who must play as "shadow striker"? I hope that we finally will play with two TYPICAL strikers, but with our coaches we can never be sure... I have no idea which strikers we will see against Czech Republic. I just can say that: Paweł Brożek(4 goals and 5 asists in 9 league matches) is far from so impressive performance from last season. He is not a goal hunter anymore, his club is dominating in our league, but Brożek... I don't know... he is not so good as he was in last season. Robert Lewandowski(5 goals and 1 asists in 8 matches) is hero in polish newspapers, but he and his team show average performance. I get feeling that Lewandowski and Brozek have those good statistics only thanks to poor level of our domestic league. Dawid Janczyk from Lokeren(5 goals and 1 asists 8 matches)- I don't watch Belgian league so I don't know much about this guy. He is 22 years old. When he was in Poland he was nothing special for me, but for CSKA Moscow he was prospect player. Now he is on loan(?) at Lokeren and finally has a chance to show his skills. In my opinion he will be on the bench. Ireneusz Jeleń from Auxerre was really excellent in last season, but then, he was long time injured. In this season he played only 184 minutes in Ligue 1. Without a goal, without asists and unfortunately with a red card. He has good speed and he is good striker, he has big chances for play on Saturday. Kamil Grosicki(3 goals & 2 asists) from domestic league. He is in very good form- in his club he play as right offensive midfielder so his stats are not so impressive, but he has great speed, and the best technique from all polish players. He is on fire, but... I really doubt if he get a chance from first minute in this match. That's all from me, sorry for my English. I post my picks later, because first: I have really important questions about hosts: 1. Are they still believe that they can qualify for World Cup 2010? 2. Do they like their temporary coach?

Im looking like crazy, thats fantastic written :clap:clap:clap My opinion is - Duel Rosicky and Baros looks like excelent. I think that talk about Rosicky isnt necessary, he is the best game-builder which CR has. Baros was for long time my eyesore but I saw last match of Galatasaray in CL and I must to say that he has great form. He is quick and usefull like never before. Czechs had main problem with scoring, thay can make an opportinuty to score but there wasnt for long time no-one which can do that. Without Nedved, Koller and Rosicky there wasnt practically no-one who is able to score. I think that this will change in match against Poland. First match of Rosicky at Arsenal after long injury was only for a few minutes but that different was huge. This guy is like power to whole team and suddenly, he has someone who can use his great passes, Baros is really good lately. For more, czechs living their dream about promotion and beleave that they can make it. Most important is win against Poland and at the same time score so much goals what they can. Im ready to bet HW -1 , over 2,5 and czech republic to score 2 and 3+ goals, all for tasty odds. With all respect to Poland, I think that this is most propable win of home team in two goals different...

[HastGill1]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

Im looking like crazy, thats fantastic written :clap:clap:clap My opinion is - Duel Rosicky and Baros looks like excelent. I think that talk about Rosicky isnt necessary, he is the best game-builder which CR has. Baros was for long time my eyesore but I saw last match of Galatasaray in CL and I must to say that he has great form. He is quick and usefull like never before. Czechs had main problem with scoring, thay can make an opportinuty to score but there wasnt for long time no-one which can do that. Without Nedved, Koller and Rosicky there wasnt practically no-one who is able to score. I think that this will change in match against Poland. First match of Rosicky at Arsenal after long injury was only for a few minutes but that different was huge. This guy is like power to whole team and suddenly, he has someone who can use his great passes, Baros is really good lately. For more, czechs living their dream about promotion and beleave that they can make it. Most important is win against Poland and at the same time score so much goals what they can. Im ready to bet HW -1 , over 2,5 and czech republic to score 2 and 3+ goals, all for tasty odds. With all respect to Poland, I think that this is most propable win of home team in two goals different...

Christ, you obviously didnt watch Baros in the europa league game the other night..he did score in the end but was hardly looking lethal, anything but..how he managed to hit the bar from one yard out in the second half i'll never know..Rosicky on the other hand has returned in much better form than i expected after such a long lay off and has played really well for Arsenal since returning..

[dealer_dil]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 Czech's squad: GK: Petr Cech (Chelsea), Antonin Kinsky (Saturn Ramienskoje) DF: Zdenek Grygera (Juventus), Marek Jankulovski (AC Milan), Ondrej Kusnir(Sparta Praga), Zdenek Pospech(FC Kopenhaga), David Rozehnal (Hamburger), Tomas Sivok (Besiktas) MD: Tomas Huebschman (Szachtar Donieck), David Jarolim (Hamburger SV), Michal Svec (Heerenveen), Jaroslav Plasil (Girondins Bordeaux), Tomas Rosicky (Arsenal Londyn), Daniel Pudil (KRK Genk) FC: Milan Baros (Galatasaray), Tomas Necid (CSKA Moscow), Jiri Stajner (Hannover 96), Adam Hlousek (Slavia Praha), Vaclav Sverkos (FC Sochaux) Any important missings? Any changes from this list? I can see that Jaroslav Drobny(reserve Gk), Libor Sionko and Jan Koller are not in squad. Anybody else? Jan Polak? For my point of view this is really solid squad- very good goalkeeper, defence: Grygera(RD), Jankulovski(LD) and Rozehnal(DC) are regular players in their strong teams- who will be the second central defender? Sivok from Besiktas? This look like really strong formation, especially when I look back on Poland's defence... midfielders: I remember that Jarolim and Hubschman are solid defensive midfielders, also Rosicky is already back and he even score for Arsenal after 18 months break. For me the problem is that you have only one winger- Jaroslav Plasil. Who will be the second? Pudil? From attacking line-up I like Milan Baros and Jiri Stajner from Hannover. I remember also about Sverkos. This squad looks really solid for me, because almost all guys are regular players in their strong teams. I can't say something similar about players from my National Team. Any info about formation? 4-4-2 with Jarolim, Rosicki, Plasil and Pudil in midfield looks good for me About Poland's motivation: Despite fact that Poland still has a theoretical chances to qualify, in our country everybody gived up- coach Beenhakker sacked after disaster against Slovenia, most of the fans don't believe anymore, players maybe want impress new coach, but they don't talk about World Cup 2010 at all, chairman Grzegorz Lato also talking only about new coach and about Euro 2012. So Poland's motivation is surely not so big as our Saturday's opponents. We already thinking about squad for Euro 2012(we should be the hosts of this tournament).

[Bandog]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

Christ' date=' you obviously didnt watch Baros in the europa league game the other night..he did score in the end but was hardly looking lethal, anything but..how he managed to hit the bar from one yard out in the second half i'll never know..Rosicky on the other hand has returned in much better form than i expected after such a long lay off and has played really well for Arsenal since returning..[/quote'] I saw highlights of that match, maybe producer is fan of Baros because he looked like wonderfull. I saw that hitted bar :spank but that was very difficult situation.

[nori]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 i see as a good bet slovakia to beat slovenia ta home at a good odds of 2.0 with paddy power. Slovakia are the strongest team in the group, having lost only one game, draw one game and won 6 games with a veru good home record. The other reason why i think slovakia would beat slovenoa is they would do a favour to their brothers Czech Rep, dont think that the draw in slovakia between sovakia and czech rep wasnt meant, it suited both teams to draw. Even the draw would qualify slovakia, but as i said i feel and think that Slovakia will beat Slovenia, and so will Czech Rep against Poland, therefore slovakia will qualify, and Czech Rep will be in pole position for the second spot which will put in the position for the play offs. I thinks this odds will go down as the days pass, so am going to take them straight away. Prediction 2:1 to slovakia :hope

[nicko]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 There is no way Bulgaria deserves odds as low as 1,83 away to Cyprus. IMO the best they would get is a high-scoring draw, but I seriously doubt that too. - zero chances for both teams to qualify; - gone are the days when the Bulgarian team will play for pride; - domestic scandals involving both top teams, Levski and CSKA; - top players ( if they play at all for full 90 mins ) will rather stay away from heavy tackles in order to perform well in the foreign clubs and avoid injuries; - a couple of young guns might shine at moments, either because they are close to transfers to better clubs or just because young as they are they calculate less. This will never be enough away to Cyprus, where I have seen players giving 100% in international matches. Big or small, the crowd will be always behind their team and players playing with heart. I will start watching Bulgarian football again IF we get more than a point from there :) Cyprus + 0,5 AH @ 1,87 GL

[jazzmorris]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009

This REALLY needs some solid reasoning' date=' mate - putting two qualified teams into a double is a foolish bet at least.[/quote'] I betting on England as i think Capello will want to keep his 100% record and players will want to impress for WC. I have backed the Germans as i always do, no matter what team they field they always seem to pull a win out of the bag. Its a gamble but i should get £60 back for my £10 stake (fingers crossed)

[Madness]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 I have to admit I would never have said this a year ago but I think 2.7 for England away to Ukraine is very good value on Saturday. I appreciate the arguements that England have already qualified but as anyone who has watched England over the past year has seen, Capello has instilled a winning mentality in whatever game they play. He has named a strong squad, he has said he will play his strongest team in the first half, it's a qualifier so he can't sub his whole side at half time hence he will play his strongest team all game. There is a sense that no-one is safe and everyone will be looking to impress. My thinking is that he will play his strongest team on Sat and give the impression that anything less a win is unacceptable. He enjoys hard games as he has proved by arranging away friendlies against tough opposition in the last year and he will look at this game to give him a true sense of how much the England players are commited. This will leave Wednesdays home game to rest a few players if required and keep the club managers happy if he feels the need. Ukraine have been poor recently and all things taken into consideration England should be priced at 2.25 maximum. Ukraine have been poor (drew 0-0 away to Belerus in last game) and are facing an England team who have a 100% qualifying record, are strengthened by the return of Rio at the back and are fighting for their places specially with the likes of Walcott, Joe Cole and Owen not even in the squad.

[Kizo]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 well, it seems that ukraine-england game is on everybody's sights these days. i believe that ukraine wins this. not for footballing reasons at all. as for croatia, no eduardo and petric and a long trip to kazakhstan. we'll see about that game ...

[akcaig]

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[willemedkniven]

Re: World Cup Qualifiers 10th October 2009 Great odds on Chile to beat Colombia away (3.75 at betfair). The first game between the two ended 4-0 and Chile has, for once, a really good team. I´ve seen several of their games and they can easily beat Colombia, but I´m not an expert on either team. Any Southamericans out there who could give us some more info?