froment Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) 6 bets' date=' 5 losses, 1 win - won't be betting no more lol[/quote'] I don't understand - I counted 3 losses, 3 wins... :wall Let's see: Bet 25) Alfreton vs Corby : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.69 (Bet365) FT 1-0, LOST, PROFIT -50 Bet 26) Gloucester vs Telford : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.80 (Bet365) FT 0-1, LOST, PROFIT -50 Bet 27) Ilkeston vs Farsley : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.63 (Bet365) ft 1-0, LOST, PROFIT -50 Bet 28) Stalybridge vs Vauxhall : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.66 (Bet365) FT 3-1, WON, PROFIT +33 Bet 29) Sigma Olomouc vs Sparta Praha : £50 on Under 2.5 Goals @ 1.61 (Bet365) FT 1-1, WON, PROFIT +30.5 Bet 30) Dynamo Kiev vs Metalur Donetsk : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.72 (Bet365) Still in play, but 2-1 already at HT, therefore, WON, PROFIT +36. Therefore, loss on those six bets -50.5 units... but remember the overall profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denon999 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) I would suggest the best way to run these is a bank of £250, and do 2.5% on each selection. thankyou Jack for sharing though, I know you dont have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
know-how Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) JJ, You are the best!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Just noticed this thread: Brilliant stuff Jack. However, like Froment, I have a few things to say. Come on though guys. Fader, its your choice to follow the selections. Why post up that you have lost just to make Jack feel guilty. Thats just so typical of some people who cant take losing runs, and blame it on the person running the system when they lose money. I dont really believe you were intending to be malicious Fader, I just felt it was un-necessary. Due to previous things with the Old firm, I think JJ is very wary of getting into arguments on here, but for once, I am on Jack's side here. Denon: I think thats very premature. However, I think any thoughts of this system being a goldmine were also premature. A minimum for a testing range is really about 100 bets, and then you can looka t peaks and troughs over large samples. But to say that the system is declining because of 1 or 2 losing days, is a little unfair IMO. I know there was no malice, I just feel that its slightly unfair on "the system" if you get me. Good luck with the system Jack, and hope it proves fruitful. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KThom Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Errrm, I really don't understand those negative comments all-at-once! Each system has its own great and poor days... and so far, today doesn't seem to be something especially bad - three out of six bets won (bet 28, 29 and 30 won, 25, 26 and 27 lost), for total loss of about 50 units, with two bets pending, and both of them look very promising, as Iceland is known to have a lot of overs! As JJ said, the aim is not everyday profit, which is impossible, but profit in long run; and he succedeed to turn 500 EUR in 900 EUR in only 30 bets, with strike rate of around 77% at the moment; therefore, this really looks amazing, as many of you stated before... but now, when some of you chosen only some bets to invest money on, and those bets failed, it cannot be fault of this system, but mainly your fault - look at the overall profit, not profit on individual bets! Don't you tell me you expected strike rate to remain 100%! AS I said, I believe both icelandic games to go over, which would turn this "not looking good" system into daily profit again! Good luck! :ok Nothing negative - just realistic. I've posted before on my own thread about over/under selections. There needs to be a correlation between odds and stakes to start with. I've asked about back testing as you can't call a system good or bad after such a short space of time. If you know your likely strike rate - you can then work out your staking system. If the expectant win rate is 65% betting level stakes on anything below 1.54 will lose in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnuR Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) I don't understand - I counted 3 losses, 3 wins... :wall Let's see: Bet 25) Alfreton vs Corby : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.69 (Bet365) FT 1-0, LOST, PROFIT -50 Bet 26) Gloucester vs Telford : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.80 (Bet365) FT 0-1, LOST, PROFIT -50 Bet 27) Ilkeston vs Farsley : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.63 (Bet365) ft 1-0, LOST, PROFIT -50 Bet 28) Stalybridge vs Vauxhall : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.66 (Bet365) FT 3-1, WON, PROFIT +33 Bet 29) Sigma Olomouc vs Sparta Praha : £50 on Under 2.5 Goals @ 1.61 (Bet365) FT 1-1, WON, PROFIT +30.5 Bet 30) Dynamo Kiev vs Metalur Donetsk : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.72 (Bet365) Still in play, but 2-1 already at HT, therefore, WON, PROFIT +36. Therefore, loss on those six bets -50.5 units... but remember the overall profit! Bet 31) Stjarnan vs Breidablik : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.60 (Sportingbet) Details: Iceland Premier. KO: 19:00 WON :cheers +30 Bet 32) Grindavik vs Fylkir : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.72 (Sportingbet) Details: Iceland Premier. KO: 19:00 WON :cheers +36 profit today: +26 (i think) thx JJ, good luck... :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froment Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) I think profit is now +16.5, as previously it was -49.5; so, it's another profitable day, as I expected! Cheers, JJ, brilliant stuff! :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) good recovery for 4 wins/4 loss overall. I agree with you Stewart on it looking negative and i apoligise for it looking like that JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Remember guys this is still a PAPER TRAIL !! Jack stated right at the start of this that he is starting with a Mythical bank of £500. So if anyone is putting their hard earned on his selections then that is THEIR problem . KThom your are probably correct that if the strike rate falls to around 65% then level stakes may not keep the profit level as high as it is , but lets see how it goes over the coming weeks . I have already suggested betting in doubles as long as the SR is still as high as it is , but of course , it's which games to double up on that could be the problem unless JJ knows how to solve that one ..................:hope But as i say , let the system run and see where it goes over the coming weeks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnuR Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) I think profit is now +16.5' date=' as previously it was -49.5; so, it's another profitable day, as I expected! Cheers, JJ, brilliant stuff! :clap[/quote'] :) that's true man. profit is 16,5.. good job JJ :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Thanks for all the kind comments guys. And as JTW said, this is actually a paper trial. Although to be fair I have been backing the selections myself, mainly in doubles/trebls and with good success so far. :D Anyway I will continue posting the selections for this system but I am not at fault for anyone who loses money following this. The £500 I am using is a mythical bank and after 100 bets or such we will know were we stand with this system alot more, that is the plan and at the moment, I think its fair to say we have made a very good start. Today was dissapointing but we recovered well and in the end we still made a profit, thats what its all about afterall. I'm not so sure I should have got involved with the English Non League games but to be honest, the system was very accurate with them so I suppose it was just not to be. Once again thanks for all the feedback, and lets hope we can keep building bridges with this system and pointing out any negative traits along the way. :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) I'm not so sure I should have got involved with the English Non League games but to be honest, the system was very accurate with them so I suppose it was just not to be. agreed mate, your selections on overseas though have been spot on. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) 01) Jonkopings vs Atvidaberg : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.75 : (FT 2-2) +£37.50 : £537.50 02) Guarani vs Fortaleza : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.73 : (FT 2-1) +£36.50 : £574.00 03) Parana vs Bahia : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.79 : (FT 1-2) +£39.50 : £613.50 04) Caxias vs Campinense : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.56 : (FT 1-4) +£28.00 : £641.50 05) Atletico GO vs America RN : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.60 : (FT 4-1) +£30.00 : £671.50 06) KR Reykjavik vs IBV Vestman : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.65 : (FT 3-0) +32.50 : £704.00 07) Fram vs Grindavik : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.65 : (FT 4-3) +£32.50 : £736.50 08) First Vienna vs Red Bull Juniors Salzburg : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.60 : (FT 1-2) +£30.00 : £766.50 09) FC Fehervar vs Zalaeggerzeg : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.65 : (FT 1-2) +£32.50 : £799.00 10) Mattersburg vs Austria Karn : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.66 : (FT 4-1) +£33.00 : £832.0 11) Campinense vs Brasiliense : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.72 : (FT 1-0) -£50.00 : £782.0 12) SQ Quito vs Manta FC : Under 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.70 : (FT 2-0) +£35.00 : £817.00 13) Valerenga vs Molde : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.57 : (FT 2-1) +£28.50 : £845.50 14) America RN vs Guarani : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.73 : (FT 3-1) +£36.50 : £882.00 15) Haugesund vs Honefoss : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.65 : (FT 3-2) +£32.50 : £914.50 16) Sion vs Bellinzena : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.66 : (FT 3-1) +£33.00 : £947.50 17) Vasalunds vs Norrkoping : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.65 : (FT 4-2) +£32.50 : £980.00 18) Qviding vs Sundsvall : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.62 : (FT 1-1) -£50.00 : £930.00 19) Austria Wien vs Rapid Vienna : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.72 : (FT 1-1) -£50.00 : £880.00 20) Ham Kam vs Stavanger : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.50 : (FT 3-1) +£25.00 : £905.00 21) LASK Linz vs Wiener Neust : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.57 : (FT 4-2) +£28.50 : £933.50 22) Start vs Brann : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.57 : (FT 1-0) -£50.00 : £883.50 23) KR Reykjavik vs Fram : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.55 : (FT 3-1) +£27.50 : £911.00 24) Internacional vs Goias : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.60 : (FT 4-0) +£30.00 : £941.00 25) Alfreton vs Corby : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.69 : (FT 1-0) -£50.00 : £891.00 26) Gloucester vs Telford : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.80 : (FT 0-1) -£50.00 : £841.00 27) Ilkeston vs Farsley : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.63 : (FT 1-0) -£50.00 : £791.00 28) Stalybridge vs Vauxhall : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.66 : (FT 3-1) +£33.00 : £824.00 29) Sigma Olomouc vs Sparta Praha : Under 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.61 : (FT 1-1) +£30.50 : £854.50 30) Dynamo Kiev vs Metalurg Donetsk : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.72 : (FT 2-1) +£36.00 : £890.50 31) Stjarnan vs Breidabik : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.60 : (FT 1-3) +£30.00 : £920.50 32) Grindavik vs Fylkir : Over 2.5 Goals : £50 @ 1.72 : (FT 2-3) +£36.00 : £956.50 Bets: 32 Wins: 25 Strike Rate: 78% Yield: 28.5% Starting Bank: £500.00 Current Bank: £956.50 Profit: £456.60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkdz Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Very impressive mate. Huge strike rate percentage keeps you very high. You almost doubled your starting bankroll. Tell me, will you recalculate your odds or just increase number of your selections? Btw i still think you will fail to keep your winnings before you reach number of let's say, 100 bets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Hi Corinthian, I will keep stake to £50, as I said it's just mythical cash at the moment anyway and it keeps things simple on this thread for the moment. Well I suppose we can only wait and see, that is the beauty of trialing and testing. As I said, I am betting on these selections myself at the moment but not for 'serious' cash, its mainly just £20/£30 doubles trebles etc but I have had already made a few hundred quid which is promising. If things are still very good at 100+ bets I will definetly be investing more seriously. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) keep the pressure away mate .i really dont care if it will be fail or success at the end .I just see a brilliant tipster at under/over . Make it fly mate! :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Could you let us know the doubles/trebles you use too mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HampshireIan Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Well 3 out of 8 fell foul but the 5 that came in managed to save the profit... that's top bombing Jack :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) good recovery for 4 wins/4 loss overall. I agree with you Stewart on it looking negative and i apoligise for it looking like that JJ Fair play mate. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Two for Tuesday... Bet 33) Levadia Tallin vs Sillamae Kalev : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.53 (Bet365) Details: Estonian Premier. KO: 16:00 Bet 34) Syrianska vs Landskrona : £50 on Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.73 (Bet365) Details: Swedish Superettan. KO: 18:00 There was a few other qualifiers in the Norwegian lower leagues but prices of 1.30 etc don't interest me. The lowest price we will use on this system is 1.50. A few bookmakers are offering 1.70 etc for over 3.5 goals but I know through experience its best to stick to the 2.5 line as 3.5+ is usually asking far too much. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkr1986 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Thanks! Was beginning to think there wasn't going to be any bets today but this is good =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Thanks JJ. What do you think are the chances of a double with these two at 2.63? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Thanks JJ. What do you think are the chances of a double with these two at 2.63? Fairly confident, I have stuck a good few quid on the double myself so :hope Levadia game 1-1 already with just 25mins gone so over an hour of football to hope for 1 more goal in that one. :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) 2-1 Levadia before HT so the first one up very comfortably. :ok :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) nothing quite like it being a win before HT - nice one - I'm on the double and 2 singles :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrAST Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Fairly confident, I have stuck a good few quid on the double myself so :hope Levadia game 1-1 already with just 25mins gone so over an hour of football to hope for 1 more goal in that one. :hope I also went for the double on those 2 - by the time i had got to bet365 your followers must have beaten me to it because the best odds i got on the double were 1.65 Part 1 of 2 complete, well done JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denon999 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Hi JJ, Just curious mate, have you run this system betting on over 3.5, whilst I appreciate the losers will be more, the odds go up by quite a lot for 3.5.... any chance you could look at that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Hi JJ, Just curious mate, have you run this system betting on over 3.5, whilst I appreciate the losers will be more, the odds go up by quite a lot for 3.5.... any chance you could look at that? Hi mate, Over 3.5 is something that doesn't interest me. I have tried and tested it a few times and I know the odds can be more tempting but I just think looking for 4+ goals in a game is asking too much. The only line I will play for serious cash is 2.5, I wouldn't say I am very experienced in the betting world but I am experienced enough and I think things become a lot lot harder if you try to beat the 3.5 line. The system threw up a few lower league Norwegian games today, the first one being Lillestrom Two vs Start Two. The odds for over 2.5 were a dismal 1.30 though and I'm not willing to bet at that price. Even the over 3.5 was 1.70 and I still don't think there is any value in that. In the end the game finished 4-0 so it would have been a winner both ways but for the moment I'll be sticking with 2.5 and the lowest price we will back on this system is 1.50. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denon999 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) ok mate... as always thx for all your efforts, and I agree some odds for under 2.5 are laughable... bookies hey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Re: Over/Under 2.5 Goals System (Take 2) Levadia winning 6-1.... only just over 2.5 eh!? :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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