calva decoy Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Whilst picking my ITV 7 choices out I couldn't help but notice in the 4.20 at Wolverhampton - LEO'S LUCKYMAN has a rating of just 26. Is this a misprint or is this a mere horse & NOT a racehorse ? Should if horses fail to reach a certain mark over say a 12 / 18 month period taking into account a certain amount of runs & without injuries they be retired or are they still worthy of running ? Edited January 3, 2021 by calva decoy Spelling error The Brigadier and yossa6133 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgarden Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 450 Wolverhampton inevitable outcome 6-4 most 550 Wolverhampton athmad 9-2 most The Equaliser and The Brigadier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brigadier Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, calva decoy said: Whilst picking my ITV 7 choices out I couldn't help but notice in the 4.20 at Wolverhampton - LEO'S LUCKYMAN has a rating of just 26. Is this a misprint or is this a mere horse & NOT a racehorse ? Should if horses fail to reach a certain mark over say a 12 / 18 month period taking into account a certain amount of runs & without injuries they be retired or are they still worthy of running ? No misprint Calva - he's rated 26 - quite staggering really !!.Hills believe it or not have shortened him to 66/1 from 80/1 !! He's met 90 horses in his career and only beaten 4 MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossa6133 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just looking at Leo's Luckyman, he was actually backed on debut 12/1 into 9/2, so must have shown something at home! The Brigadier and calva decoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calva decoy Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 8 hours ago, yossa6133 said: Just looking at Leo's Luckyman, he was actually backed on debut 12/1 into 9/2, so must have shown something at home! Was rated as low as 23 on 22nd February 2020 then finished 5th of 6 ONLY beaten 9.5L . How it went up to a rating of 45 & now back into mid 20's the mind boggles , as does the handicappers !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossa6133 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 It think they show what it had to run off in handicaps (stones out of the handicap!), rather than it's actual mark, and shows his real mark for non handicaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alancraik Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 todays top rated selections LINGFIELD 12:40 Mutahamisa 7/4 win LINGFIELD 13:10 Royal Birth 7/4 win FAKENHAM 13:25 Paricolor 13/2 e/w 2 Places FAKENHAM 14:25 Perfect Moment 15/2 e/w 4 Places The Equaliser and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathtime For Rupert Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 All prices Bet365: 12.25 Fakenham - 1pt e/w Gyllen @ 40/1 1.55 Fakenham - 1pt e/w Tippingituptonancy @ 11/1 2.25 Fakenham - 1pt e/w Pride of Pemberley @ 12/1 2.40 Lingfield - 0.5pts e/w Estibdaad @ 80/1 3.10 Lingfield - 1pt e/w Murhib @ 8/1 3.40 Lingfield - 1pt e/w Sufi @ 20/1 Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Well, not a great deal on offer today in the non handicaps I was fascinated to see in the 3.25 at Fakenham that Tiny Tantrum has over a stone more in weight than on its last run. The 10lbs claimer allowance doesn't count as it is the same rider who rode it last time. On the other hand Harde Fashion is only carrying 4lbs more than on its last effort. I don't understand this discrepancy in the weights. Perhaps @Trotter can come to my aid. Anyway I'm not playing as there are a few others with what looks to be good chances. I have had a bet in the 3.50 at Wolvs with £3.50 on Kyllukey at 7/2 with Richard Kingscote aboard. It has drifted from 5/2 overnight but I think that it should beat Dubai Paradise and I don't see that Captain Ryan is as good as it was last year. In the 6.20 at Wolves I have had £6 at 3.47 on Shimmering Dawn which seems a good price. Again this is a drifter as the media and the market have plumped for Amniarix. Good luck to that one if it wins but I'll stick with the horse that should win at the weights. Finally I have gone for Big Kitty in the 6.50 at Wolves with Ben Curtis aboard £4 win at 11/4 last night . The market has gone for Hollie Doyle's horse Angel Mill which I believe is too short Hence, I have chosen drifters today, however, you never know the market can always change in the run up to post time. Total outlay to day is £13.50 Good luck to all sailing in the races today ================================================================================================== A complete washout for me today. I had another £2 on Big Kitty So my loss for the day was £15.50. My only regret was that I didn't have a cover win bet on Amniarix (RichardKingscote in flying form with three winners). I will do the cover bet in future when I think that I am betting on a two horse race. I had no qualms about not doing so on Hollie Doyle's horse Angel Mill as I simply did not fancy it despite all the market hype. My balance has now been reduced to £533.88 (£500 Bank) Many thanks to @Trotterfor pointing out the actual weight to be carried by Tiny Tantrum earlier, plus also to look at the race conditions regarding weights and penalties. I will look out for jockeys with allowances that have to be deducted from the advertised weight on race cards in future in my non-handicap races. Only two meetings tomorrow in the UK. Two class 5 races and three Class 6 races. No future stars on show for my non handicap races tomorrow I fear. Edited January 4, 2021 by The Equaliser Results Update yossa6133 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger2256 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Jan - 10 1pt level stakes win only 12.25 Fak Gyllen 40/1Lost 14.25 Fak Perfect Moment 9/1Lost 14.25 Fak GangWarfare 11/1 Lost 14.40 Lin Hannalite 22/1 Lost Prices aside now b365 -4 Jan -14 Edited January 4, 2021 by roger2256 Result Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Equaliser said: Well, not a great deal on offer today in the non handicaps I was fascinated to see in the 3.25 at Fakenham that Tiny Tantrum has over a stone more in weight than on its last run. The 10lbs claimer allowance doesn't count as it is the same rider who rode it last time. On the other hand Harde Fashion is only carrying 4lbs more than on its last effort. I don't understand this discrepancy in the weights. Perhaps @Trotter can come to my aid. Anyway I'm not playing as there are a few others with what looks to be good chances. Well ....... relative weights are only of importance in handicaps This isn't a handicap and neither was his first run...... so the weights are determined by the Race Conditions If you're using the Racing Post you can choose to have the Race Conditions shown on the card which might be useful to read Also if you're using the Post note this ....... On the race card it shows the allotted weight before any riders allowances are taken off ....... so it shows 11.5 but with the riders allowance he will actually carry 10-9 today On the horses form page the weight it shows is the weight after the riders allowance is taken off ........ so for his last run it shows 10-4 so his allotted weight would have been 11.0 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 ps ....... Hardie Fashion is just carrying the allotted weight in each race as per the Race Conditions ..... no jockey allowances apply The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 A few outsiders a couple of races with 2 horses 12.10 lingfield hunters steps 12/1 2.25 fakenham heresmynumber 14/1 1.55 fakenham amethea 25/1 5 places e w e 1.55 fakenham shaws dilemma 16/1 12.25 fakenham thorn 16/1 12.25 fakenham gyllen 18/1 6 places e w e all bets 50p e/w bet365 Wildgarden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 The 2 BET365 feature races today provide some value. Fakenham 2.25 AT FIRST GLANCE 9/2 Wolverhampton 7.20 INAAM 4/1 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Trotter said: Well ....... relative weights are only of importance in handicaps This isn't a handicap and neither was his first run...... so the weights are determined by the Race Conditions If you're using the Racing Post you can choose to have the Race Conditions shown on the card which might be useful to read Also if you're using the Post note this ....... On the race card it shows the allotted weight before any riders allowances are taken off ....... so it shows 11.5 but with the riders allowance he will actually carry 10-9 today On the horses form page the weight it shows is the weight after the riders allowance is taken off ........ so for his last run it shows 10-4 so his allotted weight would have been 11.0 Many thanks. All a bit confusing to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgarden Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 22 hours ago, Wildgarden said: 450 Wolverhampton inevitable outcome 6-4 most 2nd 550 Wolverhampton athmad 9-2 most won Results The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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