Smiles Tennis Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, harry_rag said: That is generally the experience for long running and profitable threads in this section. I glance at yours but I’ve lost track of what you’re doing (had a recap now). The way you update could be more engaging and informative, there’s no context for anyone who looks in occasionally or is new to the thread, just selections, results and a bank update. I’d suggest periodic updates along the lines of number of winners/bets, level stakes return and ROI. I tend to do something like that at least weekly. I look in from time to time but as you say there's no full updates. I remember a post about how if the bank drops a certain amount it will be refilled from previous profits, but now I have no idea how many times if at all, that it's had to be reloaded. I glance at the latest post but then just move as I don't really know whats happening. MCLARKE and alexcaruso808 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Thank you for coming back to me on this - much appreciated. Will get something on here this week in the form of a recap Smiles Tennis and harry_rag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 We have one Win back for today; 04/17/2023 15:00 Redcar Bellhaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Poor race from Bellhaven in truth yesterday; one for today; 18 Apr 2023 14:25 Newmarket New Kingdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 Hi All, Nothing from New Kingdom yesterday. We have two for today at Kempton later on; 19 Apr 2023 19:00 Kempton Lilkian 19 Apr 2023 20:00 Kempton Gherkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 A quick recap for us; I started with a new staking scheme on 2nd December 2022. Bank was €1,000. All selections are to Win only. Two staking methods being tracked. Staking 1) Aim is to win €30 per selection net of commission (so the price determines the stake)- this method is slow and steady. After yesterday the bank is €1,051. Highest bank has been €1,217, lowest has been €963. May possibly look to increase the Win per selection amount up from €30; as it seems to be extremely low downside. Staking 2) Flat 1 unit backing stakes; net of 2% commission; we're 17.22 units up since 2nd December for the Wins. All prices used are Betfair SP and all wins are net of 2% commission. Just for reference backing the Places at BSP, net of 2% commission, is +4.36 units for the same period. harry_rag, Smiles Tennis and MCLARKE 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_rag Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Thanks for the update, can I ask what that reflects in terms of x winners from a total of y bets? (e.g. volume and strike rate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 No problem, 45 winners from 166 selections. Ave price is 6.03. MCLARKE and harry_rag 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 That's average price of all selections 166 selections. MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_rag Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 If my maths are right your ROI to level stakes singles is just over 10% but you're ROI to the staking plan is more like just over 5% (based on average stake required to return £30 profit) so it looks like the staking approach is underperforming level stakes. That said, 166 is still a relatively small sample and I appreciate the staking plan may have been arrived at after looking back over a larger sample of past bets. Either way, profit is profit so keep up the good work! MCLARKE and Smiles Tennis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 Hello Harry, thanks for coming back on this. Yes, staking to win €30 is giving a lower ROI than flat stakes at the moment. I know the selections are good; its a case of trying to maximise returns. harry_rag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_rag Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Accountant said: Hello Harry, thanks for coming back on this. Yes, staking to win €30 is giving a lower ROI than flat stakes at the moment. I know the selections are good; its a case of trying to maximise returns. It's under review for my goalscorer betting. It's beginning to look like staking to win x might be better than level stakes. I'll probably run to the end of the season and decide then. (To be fair I'll also need to review the viability of the bets overall; the "A" system posted on here is doing ok now after a bad start but the "B" system and my "studied" bets have gone the other way!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 I'm completely open on staking strategies. A fixed % of bank as a stake for a period until the bank grows say 25%; then re-adjust the fixed stake to the new bank would also appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 Two for today; we'd two places yesterday; Lilkian in particular ran a good race but no wins; 04/20/2023 13:50 Newmarket Changing Colours 04/20/2023 17:15 Newmarket Naaser MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles Tennis Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 23 hours ago, The Accountant said: I'm completely open on staking strategies. A fixed % of bank as a stake for a period until the bank grows say 25%; then re-adjust the fixed stake to the new bank would also appeal. If you have a spreadsheet of all your previous selections I'm happy to run them through some software I have that tells you which staking plan is best to maximise results. Just let me know, harry_rag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 Thanks Smiles - will take you up on that. Let me know how best to contact you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 My email is [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 Nothing from the two selections yesterday and no selections today. Back on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles Tennis Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Accountant said: My email is [email protected] I'll email you. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 Hi All, Two for today; 24 Apr 2023 15:45 Windsor Spoof 24 Apr 2023 18:55 Kempton Latitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 Spoof won on Friday for us; our €1k bank moves to €1,058. Fixed stakes are 15.71 units in profit. Two for us today; 04/26/2023 14:40 Ludlow Ballycamus 04/26/2023 16:05 Perth Starlyte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 A place but no wins yesterday; one for today in Perth; 04/27/2023 17:13 Perth Sanitiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 Fixed Stake +13.72 units Bank is €1,043 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 Sanitiser came in 3rd after looking strong. One for today; 05/02/2023 16:20 Brighton Rhubarb Bikini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 Rhubarb Bikini came in third. Two more for today; 05/04/2023 13:30 Ayr Cosa Sara 05/04/2023 20:05 Lingfield Sovereign Spirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 Two winners yesterday; nothing for today. Stake Method 1: Unit profit fixed stake (BSP) +17.29 Stake Method 2: Starting bank of €1,000; bank is now €1,079 harry_rag and MCLARKE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 Hi All, one for today; 08 May 2023 14:55 Ayr First Impression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 First Impression ran a good race; came in second without hugely challenging though; one for today; 05/09/2023 16:45 Ffos Las Hungry Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 Nothing yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Accountant Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 Two for today; 05/10/2023 17:10 Fontwell Mullinaree 05/10/2023 19:15 Fontwell Doyen For Money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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