Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Just 1 more. How does Prior get in ahead of Nixon :unsure

[WoodyTHFC]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 I agree about Swann actually. He bats very well too and aggressively and although it is slightly different to his role at Notts he would be a good 'hitter' down the order. Perhaps he and Panesar would have been the better option?

[kevshat]

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I agree about Swann actually. He bats very well too and aggressively and although it is slightly different to his role at Notts he would be a good 'hitter' down the order. Perhaps he and Panesar would have been the better option?

I think it will be interesting when they pick the squads for Sri Lanka. We must take 2 spinners out there. Schofield has no 4 day form at all. Do they take Swann? Or rely on Vaughan and KP as a 2nd spinner?

[kevshat]

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Schofield? We would be better off picking Phillip rather than Chris. Surely over the last few weeks the two best one day specialist spinners have been Tredwell from Kent and Swann from Notts, by a country mile. Bizarre really. Don't mind picking Twenty20 specialists but not go the whole hog, fair enough picking the likes of Kirtley and Maddy. Ou est la Mascarenhas?

You of all people talking up Graeme Swann!! I've heard it all!! Glad you found us mate :ok

[WoodyTHFC]

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I think it will be interesting when they pick the squads for Sri Lanka. We must take 2 spinners out there. Schofield has no 4 day form at all. Do they take Swann? Or rely on Vaughan and KP and a 2nd spinner?

I would go for Swann but the selectors still seem to hold his lateness for a bus in South Africa years ago against him. Who knows even young Rashid could be an option.

[kevshat]

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I would go for Swann but the selectors still seem to hold his lateness for a bus in South Africa years ago against him. Who knows even young Rashid could be an option.

I fear he might be. I say fear not because I don't rate the guy because I very much do, but if we stick him in now would he be Schofield mark 2?

[WoodyTHFC]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 If we took him as a second spinner where he might not be certain to play though it would be a good learning experience to avoid him being another Schofield and he would not be thrown completely in the deep end. As you say though it could be too soon which is why Swann could be the safer option.

[Royston Vasey]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Thanks! ;) Some of the bowling selections are just weird. Tremlett's done fantastically in Test Cricket, but bowled like a drain in Australia. Fair enough he's cut his run down but Im not sure. Anderson is very hit and miss... like you amazed Lewis has been omitted. An outstanding bowler in a village team. Them getting to the Twenty20 final shows you how rank most county teams are. The selectors seem to have had a total rethink from the Twenty20 squad from the West Indies games. Glad they have ditched Yardy and Trott. Quite why someone who has played for another country at under 19 level can represent England is a mystery. As amazing as Pietersen is, I would prefer if he didn't play for England - it makes a mockery of international cricket. May be as well pick Law, Spearman, Ackerman, Saqlain, Benkenstein, McLaren etc and have done with it. If they have picked a squad of say Loye, Maddy, Bopara, Shah, Pieterson, Collingwood, Flintoff, Ambrose, Swann, Mascarenhas, Sidebottom, Panesar ( or Tredwell), Key, Kirtley, Broad, I would have been happier.

[2hcb]

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Just 1 more. How does Prior get in ahead of Nixon :unsure

this one I definately agree on. Nixon is made for this game. Prior is easily the better cricketer but I'd much rather Nixon standing up to the stumps, yapping away and coming in reverse sweeping 6s!!

[Royston Vasey]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Matt Prior ranks alongside Geriant Jones in the category " Should be put up against a wall and shot". Useless. Nixon has done something wrong. He doesn't play for Sussex. Now which county did Peter Moores used to coach?? Hmmm. the only surprise was the lack of Hopkinson, Lewry, Montgomerie, Hodd, Goodwin etc.

[kevshat]

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Matt Prior ranks alongside Geriant Jones in the category " Should be put up against a wall and shot". Useless. Nixon has done something wrong. He doesn't play for Sussex. Now which county did Peter Moores used to coach?? Hmmm. the only surprise was the lack of Hopkinson, Lewry, Montgomerie, Hodd, Goodwin etc.

I can tell all the sitting next to me at cricket matches has rubbed off on you :lol. You're becoming almost as anti-Sussex as I am :loon

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Right, back to the job in hand. Pro40. Awful night last night. Had to be Sussex to nail me but that's life. Hopefully we'll hit back tomorrow.

Best odds/All odds Derbyshire 2.1 2 2.1 2 2 2 1.83 2 2 2 2 1.83 2.1 2.14 Leicestershire 1.66 1.72 1.66 1.72 1.72 1.72 1.83 1.72 1.72 1.83 1.72 1.83 1.85 1.65

bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">

Anyone planning a bet here needs to remember the game begins at 3.40 and not 4.40 due to the sunshine at Derby. I'll fire with 4 here. 10pts Leicestershire to beat Derbyshire 5/6 Coral Fairly big game this for 2 sides unlikely to challenge for promotion but must win in order to have a chance. Derbyshire come into this one 6th, ahead of Leicestershire on run rate. These 2 sides have met 3 times already this season, Leicestershire are 2-0 up with the other being rained off in farcical circumstances when 3 balls after going off, Derby would've won. Derbyshire come into this off the back of 2 successive Pro40 defeats but they've only gone down by slender margins to Kent and Somerset. Travis Birt has suddenly clicked with the bat and Greg Smith is in the form of his life. Simon Katich has scored runs consistently all season and will look to continue here. Graham Wagg takes wickets early doors. I believe Tom Lungley misses this game which is a big loss for the Phantoms. Leicestershire come here having beaten Middlesex last time out. They'll be buoyed by their 2 England World Cup call up's but maybe baffled Nixon wasn't a third. Stuart Broad, one of those callup's will miss this game as he's with England. Ex Derby man Nick Walker should come in. HD Ackerman, Jimmy Allenby and Paul Nixon are all in good run scoring form and with their spin duo Leicestershire look hard to beat. Leicester have the advantage of a Friends Provident win and a Twenty20 win over their neighbours and with Derby fighting hard but going down to defeat recently confidence will be zapping out of them and I think the Foxes will launch their promotion tilt with victory here. 10pts Derbyshire Highest 1st 15 Overs 5/6 Betfred Derbyshire open up with Australian's Michael Dighton and Travis Birt. It's fair to say neither of those will die wondering. Greg Smith and Simon Katich will provide good support. Leicestershire will open with HD Ackerman and Paul Harrison who can score quickly but it's Leicester's way to be steady at the start and accelerate later on. Derby are often 60/4 or something stupidly similar but they do score runs early doors which is what counts and they'll lead after 15 for me. Now a couple of top bats. Both 5/1 shots. 5pts ew G.Smith Top Derbyshire Batsman 5/1 Boylesports (1/4 1,2,3) Greg Smith comes into this match in solid form with the bat. He's had a few starts without going on but against Kent 2 weekends ago he smacked 88 off 68 balls against the Twenty20 champions. Against Leicestershire in the Twenty20 at this ground he went in as opener and made an excellent 79 off 59 balls. He's not the most pleasing batsman on the eye and he'll win no MCC coacking book contests but the runs are coming from his bat and in a really poor Derby batting lineup he's a decent ew play. 5pts ew P.Nixon Top Leicestershire Batsman 5/1 Boylesports (1/4 1,2,3) We've been here before!! Paul Nixon is arguably Leicestershire's best one day batsman. He or HD Ackerman at least. Nicko's been solid of late with the bat too. He had a good Twenty20 (including 65 here against Derby) and followed it up by top scoring against Kent in the opening Pro40 game. A solid 39 against Middlesex would have done him no harm and at 5/1 Nixon always has to be backed for top Leicester batsman. 3 men tend to do the baulk of the scoring for the Foxes, Ackerman, Allenby and Nixon so on that alone we look good for a place but Nixon's clever and against Derby's dibbly dobblies he can top score again.

[Royston Vasey]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Actually, it may be something to do with the fact I backed Gloucestershire this evening!!! :cry. No Adams, no Nash, no beardy bloke. Easy Money. :wall:wall:wall We need a scapegoat, I believe the man in question was wearing a blue headband. :wall Where's Andre Nel, when you need him? Seriously I do agree with you about Luke Wright. I was very surprised with his form in the Twenty20, and it was a fantastic innings tonight despite the filth sent down by Messers Hardinges and company. However if he's the new Ali Brown, Im the Queen of Sheba. Going to avoid betting on the result of tomorrow's match like the plague, Derby vs Leicester is like cricket version of watching two bald men fighting over a comb ( Sorry, Matt if you are reading this!!). However I like the look of Allenby and Nixon at Boyles with eachsy waysy value. May pick a rabbit out of the hat and go for Katich as Derby's top bat! You can't beat a plucky outsider! God bless Boyle Sports - Patron Saint of mug punters everywhere!

[Royston Vasey]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Derbyshire open up with Australian's Michael Dighton and Travis Birt. It's fair to say neither of those will die wondering. Greg Smith and Simon Katich will provide good support. Leicestershire will open with HD Ackerman and Paul Harrison who can score quickly but it's Leicester's way to be steady at the start and accelerate later on. Derby are often 60/4 or something stupidly similar but they do score runs early doors which is what counts and they'll lead after 15 for me. Kev, know it wouldn't affect your bet, but according to www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk , Dighton has a back strain and won't play. Dan Birch should replace him but he was ill on Sunday, so not 100%. Hope for your sake, Stubbings doesn't open!

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 If only Wright had hit the ball within 5 yards of Hamish Marshall. He could've (and would've) claimed the catch and the rest would've been history :lol.

[2hcb]

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Matt Prior ranks alongside Geriant Jones in the category " Should be put up against a wall and shot". Useless. Nixon has done something wrong. He doesn't play for Sussex. Now which county did Peter Moores used to coach?? Hmmm. the only surprise was the lack of Hopkinson, Lewry, Montgomerie, Hodd, Goodwin etc.

Sorry to interupt this little Hampshire love in, but that's nonsense. :lol ;) Good luck with those btw Kev although Nixon might not get much of a bat against Derbys I feel.

[kevshat]

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Derbyshire open up with Australian's Michael Dighton and Travis Birt. It's fair to say neither of those will die wondering. Greg Smith and Simon Katich will provide good support. Leicestershire will open with HD Ackerman and Paul Harrison who can score quickly but it's Leicester's way to be steady at the start and accelerate later on. Derby are often 60/4 or something stupidly similar but they do score runs early doors which is what counts and they'll lead after 15 for me. Kev, know it wouldn't affect your bet, but according to www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk , Dighton has a back strain and won't play. Dan Birch should replace him but he was ill on Sunday, so not 100%. Hope for your sake, Stubbings doesn't open!

How in the good lord has Dighton got a back strain?! It can only be the constant looking behind him once he's bowled yet another long hop that's been smacked straight back over his head!! Birch is fine for the 15 overs bet. It isn't beyond the realms they'll play a kid in the middle order and stick Smith up to open either which would help on both counts. Either way it's more the style of the 2 sides than the personnel so I expect to be collecting come about 8pm.

[Matt]

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this one I definately agree on. Nixon is made for this game. Prior is easily the better cricketer but I'd much rather Nixon standing up to the stumps, yapping away and coming in reverse sweeping 6s!!

How is Prior "easily a better cricketer" than Nixon? :eek

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Nixon was the only loser today so a +7.85 day and +51.43 for the competition now :ok

[kevshat]

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Best odds/All odds
Yorkshire	1.72	1.66	1.61	1.66	1.66	1.66	1.66	1.66	1.72	1.66	1.66	1.61	1.61	1.68	1.69	1.7
Middlesex	2	2.1	2.2	2.32	2.1	2.1	2.1	2.1	2	2.1	2.1	2.2	2.2	2.35	2.36	2.02

Tough game to call is this one. Neither side has a style which stands out for a 15 over or 6s bet so just the 2 for me tonight. 10pts Middlesex to beat Yorkshire 6/5 VC Bet Yorkshire host Middlesex having won their only Pro40 game so far. Middlesex have 2 wins for 4 matches and know a win this evening puts them top of the pile and with only 2 matches left after this, if they are to challenge promotion they need to win it. Yorkshire have announced their side already. There's no surprises in it. Jacques Rudolph will lead away and Anthony McGrath and Younus Khan will be key figures in the middle order. Darren Gough and Jason Gillespie will be important with the ball, as will young spinner David Wainwright who I like the look of. Middlesex are at full strength here and are likely to name the same side which beat Surrey last weekend. Ed Joyce, Ed Smith, Owais Shah and Eoin Morgan are all batting nicely and Vaas and Murtagh are taking wickets. Murali Kartik is bowling beautifully right now and he'll be tough to face. This is a fairly even match. Both good one day sides with the personnel needed to go well in 1 day cricket. Middlesex should be confident after beating Surrey last Sunday though and that just about gives them the edge for me. 5pts ew E.Morgan Top Middlesex Bat 9/2 Boylesports (1/4 1,2,3) Eoin Morgan is enjoying a good Pro40 so far. He's already top scored for the Crusaders twice in the competition and has every chance of doing so again tonight given the form he's in. The thing I like about his top scores is one was from opening, at Durham, and the other was batting 4 last weekend against Surrey. We didn't see the best of Morgan in the World Cup but he's a very good batsman who can play real big cricket shots. He can also play some classy ones too. He can bat anywhere in this batting lineup which is pretty strong so he'll need to play well to top score. He's solid enough though and given we profit with just a place, he's the top bat call tonight.

[Punto83]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Hardlines with the bet Kev. Always have a quick look to see what your backing in the cricket and follow. Couldn't follow backing Middlesex though against my home county ;) Watched Middlesexs' innings in the gym and thought we had it sown up especially with our start. 5 wickets falling for only 7 runs in 19 balls though swung it right back the other way. Think Shah's over as called by Corky was the pivotal over. I missed it,but what was up with Rudolph?

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Very nearly a bottlejob! You tried hard to lose :ok. I didn't hear anything about Rudolph and he's in your side to play Lancashire from tomorrow so I can only assume he was rested :unsure

[Punto83]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Cheers Kev. I'd love to know how many times Gough has been caught out on the boundary in his career ;)

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Forgot to clean up the last game. Was -20 for the night and now just +31.43 for the tournament.

Sunday 12 August 2007
	Home	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="middle">BPP
Essex v Warwickshire (13:15 BST)	1.88	2.10	101%	Related markets...Match Result (Draw No Bet)
Glamorgan v Somerset (13:15 BST)	3.00	1.45	103%	Related markets...Match Result (Draw No Bet)
Nottinghamshire v Northamptonshire (13:15 BST)	1.70	2.30	103%	Related markets...Match Result (Draw No Bet)
Sussex v Hampshire (13:15 BST)	1.90	2.05	102%

Also Kent vs Durham. Kent best priced 5/6. Durham 6/5. 1 for me today. 10pts Hampshire to beat Sussex Evs Blue Square 6th plays 2nd in this South derby. Hampshire will go top with a win against their rivals and will look to win this and go into the Lords final next week with a win behind them. Sussex will go 3rd with a win. Hampshire have had the benefit of a day's rest after beating Worcestershire in 3 days in the championship while Sussex played out a 4 game draw. Sussex have a good batting side but an awful lot depends on Luke Wright. Hampshire have a good bowling attack though and should put paid to him early. Chris Adams, Murray Goodwin and Richard Montgomerie are in good form too. James Kirtley is in great touch with the ball right now and the 2 Pakistani's will support him well. Hampshire have Michael Lumb in good touch with the bat along with John Crawley. Nic Pothas hit a nice 71 in the Championship so he'll be confident too. With the ball, very few are bowling better right now than James Bruce and Daren Powell. With Warne, Mascarenhas and Udal backing them up, the Sussex batsmen can expect a tough day. The benefit of a day off for Hampshire is a big boost and just 6 days before they travel to Lords for the Friends Provident final, I think they'll leave Hove with the points.

[cricket lover]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Anyone know what is happening in the Sussex match? all the updates seem to have stopped after 20.5 overs in the sussex innings. Rain perhaps?

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Sussex are 250/7 off 37 mate.

[cricket lover]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 this is close. Post the result please kev when get it.

[kevshat]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Sussex win by 2 wickets with 7 balls left. Back to +21.43 for the tournament now. Pro40 resumes on Tuesday.

[kevshat]

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Best odds/All odds Lancashire 1.72 1.61 1.72 1.72 1.66 1.8 Sussex 2 2.2 2 2 2.1 1.9

Play seems highly unlikely in this match so I'll just play a top bat. 5pts ew C.Nash Top Sussex Bat 7/1 Boylesports (1/4 1,2,3) Chris Nash is a huge price here. All because the bookies are running scared of Luke Wright. They can run scared but I'm not. Sure he hits a decent ball but he's hit and miss and with Nash in good form at the other end he has to be backed. He looked good on finals day and has since hit a good 57 against Hampshire in a high run chase. Like Wright he hits it hard and won't die wondering but he has a better technique and can play the longer innings. Rain is around Manchester as ever so any play will be shortened so we want to be on someone up the order. Nash opens so that's fine and he's the pick for this game.

[cricket lover]

Re: Cricket: Natwest Pro40 2007 Match already called off