Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Hey again, Will be on the table in a min Mr Raikkonen, any news or things to know about these people etc? Hows your run been since we played last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Hey again' date=' Will be on the table in a min Mr Raikkonen, any news or things to know about these people etc? Hows your run been since we played last?[/quote'] I was going ok, flopped a flush but another guy got a bigger one. Lost a bit there, then my AQd ran into 36 with an A on the flop. Lost a few chips in that one. Just left the table about $12 up but the amount of time I spent there it's not very exciting. Moved to another table where I am hemoraging badly but I'm spend a lot PF to try and flop something as it seems fisharama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I see. Can't believe that guy just called you, was the most obvious thing you would only go all in with the nuts, :lol but it is pkr, nicely worked, he fell for it hook line and sinker :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I see. Can't believe that guy just called you' date=' was the most obvious thing you would only go all in with the nuts, :lol but it is pkr, nicely worked, he fell for it hook line and sinker :ok[/quote'] I called him 10 times out of 12 hands. I rebought to $25 EVERY time i folded a hand and I spent $10 calling him. I KNEW he would call me if I got something, so that's why I kept going. He called an all-in with J6 on a board of 6K3! So yes, I've got my fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Bugger, now I have a bigger stack I think I've just lost the +EV that existed in calling him so often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread His call of Richbee just goes to prove my theory he won't call an all-in from someone who has him dominated. He had $100 in chips at one stage! Back to tightish poker, but prob a bit more loose than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread He is deffo a calling station, can't believe he had $100, now i'm licking my lips lol.. Just need a run.:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Well that was frustrating! Arggh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Gutted about that J3 call you got pre-flop :loon Couldn't have done anything about that. Think i'm getting used to this whole sit tight wait for a hand, make some money malarky ;) i've made some v nice lay-downs which if called would have cost me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Gutted about that J3 call you got pre-flop :loon Couldn't have done anything about that. Think i'm getting used to this whole sit tight wait for a hand' date=' make some money malarky ;) i've made some v nice lay-downs which if called would have cost me.[/quote'] Another day I would be on $100 by now. I just haven't got the action from my big hands that others have, though I'm sure that's only because they didn't get their top pair - they aren't smart enough for table image considerations. I guess it's a good sign that I have increased my stack by 2/3rds and am still bitterly disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Another day I would be on $100 by now. I just haven't got the action from my big hands that others have' date=' though I'm sure that's only because they didn't get their top pair - they aren't smart enough for table image considerations. I guess it's a good sign that I have increased my stack by 2/3rds and am still bitterly disappointed.[/quote'] Yeah, it's the run of luck i guess, sometimes you get $40 pots with only ace high winning and other times you can have a FH with noone to play with. As usual though you're picking up pots consistently ;) It's really tempting sometimes to give them a hint over where they went wrong in a hand (not that im the messiah btw lol) but i hate giving my opps any sort of encouragment ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread lol, well that didn't go according to plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread lol' date=' well that didn't go according to plan.[/quote'] I didn't see how the hand panned out tbh was watching TV, must have been the kiss of death me saying you're winning a lot of hands :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread This game is going really nicely, got respect at the table and not getting some bad cards but not playing too many, i don't think people know when i'm bluffing and not :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Well that picked things up a little...still a bit behind where I want to be though :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread That bullet hand again showed that i have troubles putting people all-in , not because fear of losing, because i was certain i was ahead, but fear of not getting paid. Do you think it's worth going for the all-ins when you're ahead in a hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread That bullet hand again showed that i have troubles putting people all-in ' date=' not because fear of losing, because i was certain i was ahead, but fear of not getting paid. Do you think it's worth going for the all-ins when you're ahead in a hand?[/quote'] Getting paid off certainly isn't my area, so I wont answer. Something I am definitely look at though. Again today I've hit $50 and then dipped badly below. I really need to discipline myself somehow, either leaving when I double or just sticking to my plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Getting paid off certainly isn't my area' date=' so I wont answer. Something I am definitely look at though. Again today I've hit $50 and then dipped badly below. I really need to discipline myself somehow, either leaving when I double or just sticking to my plan.[/quote'] I think it's essential to stick to your plan no matter what stack you have. What i tended to do was play more hands after getting a big stack because of the thought if you play more you get more,but in recent months i realise that you get yourself into too much trouble playing dodgy hands and so start to lose. Stick to being tight is what i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I think it's essential to stick to your plan no matter what stack you have. What i tended to do was play more hands after getting a big stack because of the thought if you play more you get more' date='but in recent months i realise that you get yourself into too much trouble playing dodgy hands and so start to lose. Stick to being tight is what i reckon.[/quote'] WHen I first sat down to this table I played differently due to the fishes. Poker is a situational game so I think I might just have to learn how to better play the right type of game given the situation. I've got a bit unlucky though and could easily have $75+ by now :eyes I shouldn't complain too much though, I just won a big pot on another table :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Due to the annoying Hand History format of PKR and the fact I have so much of it I wont look yet but I'll post up some hands when I had monsters and either did or didn't get paid off. It's not an area I'm really much good at IMO but if we discuss this kinda thing together I think we can both benefit. I will explain that hand where you had AA in a minute too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread WHen I first sat down to this table I played differently due to the fishes. Poker is a situational game so I think I might just have to learn how to better play the right type of game given the situation. I've got a bit unlucky though and could easily have $75+ by now :eyes I shouldn't complain too much though' date=' I just won a big pot on another table :ok[/quote'] I tried to play with the table i.e. loose aggressive and kept losing, tight is the way forward, for me anyway. Last 2 hands turned my mood royally for the worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Table #1840757 - Hardwick Hall Starting Hand #92408732 Last Hand #92408187 Game Type: Hold'em Limit Type: No Limit Table Type: Ring Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25 Button is at seat 1 Seat 1: Specially - $27.89 Seat 2: GOTOIntlicity - $42.93 Seat 3: KimiRaikkonen - $38.54 Seat 4: DoctorP - $0.59 Seat 5: Magix - $25 Seat 6: blondie222 - $7.97 Seat 7: 27Nade - $40.19 Seat 8: jonbj - $5.45 Seat 9: Mogwa1 - $22 Seat 10: Draztic77 - $25.26 Moving Button to seat 2 KimiRaikkonen posts small blind ($0.10) DoctorP posts big blind ($0.25) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [9h 8s] to KimiRaikkonen Magix folds blondie222 calls $0.25 27Nade raises to $0.75 jonbj folds Mogwa1 calls $0.75 Draztic77 folds Specially folds GOTOIntlicity folds KimiRaikkonen calls $0.75 DoctorP calls $0.59 (all-in) blondie222 calls $0.75 Dealing Flop [9d Tc 8d] KimiRaikkonen checks blondie222 checks 27Nade bets $1 Mogwa1 folds KimiRaikkonen raises to $4 blondie222 raises to $7.22 (all-in) 27Nade calls $7.22 KimiRaikkonen raises to $37.79 (all-in) 27Nade folds Returning $30.57 to KimiRaikkonen uncalled KimiRaikkonen shows [9h 8s] DoctorP shows [Th Jc] blondie222 shows [6d 7d] Dealing Turn [Jd] Dealing River [9c] Taking Rake of $1.26 from pot 2 KimiRaikkonen has Full House, 9s over 8s KimiRaikkonen wins $21.04 from side pot #1 with: Full House, 9s over 8s KimiRaikkonen wins $2.95 with: Full House, 9s over 8s I got very lucky here (getting my out on the river), but I will explain what happened. I kind of used some information against you here but it's information I observed on the tables rather from these chats. You raised 75c, I've seen you raise PF about 3 times, and each time you have you've had AA. I put you on AA/KK/AK/QQ here, with a big bias towards AA/KK. I believed if I hit my flop I could get paid off from you and obviously the other players in the pot (I.e. I felt I had very big implied odds). I don't believe this is a read I got from our discussions here, but more from the game itself where you rarely raised PF and that time you had AA against the QJ and the subsequent discussion. Anyway, I hope it doesn't stop us from discussing play on PKR so that we can both improve our play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Yep you're spot on, i raised that amount on purpose to scare any people paying attention off who saw i raise to 75c with the best hands, so you read it right and i wanted you to read it as a big hand so you wouldn't play with shite ;), but you took the gamble and hit a great flop. I'll deffinitely carry on chatting about the plays because i want to get better and you're a good player so it's good to learn off eachother. I'm just pissed you hit both of those cards :spank But that's poker and i'll have my day i have no doubts ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Yep you're spot on, i raised that amount on purpose to scare any people paying attention off who saw i raise to 75c with the best hands, so you read it right and i wanted you to read it as a big hand so you wouldn't play with shite ;), but you took the gamble and hit a great flop. I'll deffinitely carry on chatting about the plays because i want to get better and you're a good player so it's good to learn off eachother. I'm just pissed you hit both of those cards :spank But that's poker and i'll have my day i have no doubts ;) I guess the key thing here is, I know you had a big hand, and because I did I played. AA is hard to lay down and will be an overpair and I know that however remote my chances are of hitting the flop, that because you have AA if I do hit my flop I will get some chips out of you. I'd advise raising more in future. The big thing here is I have big implied odds - I call 65c, you have a stack of about $40, which is about 60x what it costs me to call - not to mention the implied odds I get from the other players in the pot. If you made it say $2.25, obviously the cost to play and thus the proportionate amount between money called and what I can win differs (I think this is still called implied odds, but my poker knowledge isn't that great - perhaps GaF or someone can explain my concept better). Flattered by the compliment of being a good player too, but I'm not that good and am still quite new to poker and particularly cash games. I do feel though that there's a difference between poker and PKR poker and that I've learnt to play the latter a bit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I guess the key thing here is' date=' I know you had a big hand, and because I did I played. AA is hard to lay down and will be an overpair and I know that however remote my chances are of hitting the flop, that because you have AA if I do hit my flop I [u']will get some chips out of you. I'd advise raising more in future. The big thing here is I have big implied odds - I call 65c, you have a stack of about $40, which is about 60x what it costs me to call - not to mention the implied odds I get from the other players in the pot. If you made it say $2.25, obviously the cost to play and thus the proportionate amount between money called and what I can win differs (I think this is still called implied odds, but my poker knowledge isn't that great - perhaps GaF or someone can explain my concept better). Flattered by the compliment of being a good player too, but I'm not that good and am still quite new to poker and particularly cash games. I do feel though that there's a difference between poker and PKR poker and that I've learnt to play the latter a bit better. I understand your reasoning and i'll take the advice on board and may look to try it myself on others:ok. There;s no doubt that PKR poker and 'poker' are totally different, and it took me a day or so to get used to it but i have now and i'm performing consistently with the altered tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Argh, this is so annoying. You can't sit down at the table with the standard buy-in if you've just left. The table you're on atm I won a couple of pots on and because of that I can't sit in with anything less than what I left with the last time I played. I'll just look for the hand histories there and post them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Just had a nightmare run of luck, had top pair flush draw on the flop, ended up losing to a straight, then split a pot after hittin an ace high straight on the flop, the board ended up being AKQJ10, they had 2 pair and i bet a lot, then lost with pocket Q's and now top pair on the flop loses out to a FH, but i folded on the turn. Coupled with the bullet hand and the cards are severly turning against me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Just had a nightmare run of luck' date=' had top pair flush draw on the flop, ended up losing to a straight, then split a pot after hittin an ace high straight on the flop, the board ended up being AKQJ10, they had 2 pair and i bet a lot, then lost with pocket Q's and now top pair on the flop loses out to a FH, but i folded on the turn. Coupled with the bullet hand and the cards are severly turning against me.[/quote'] :sad:sad Sorry to hear that mate. Hopefully it turns around for you soon :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread :sad:sad Sorry to hear that mate. Hopefully it turns around for you soon :hope Cheers, only lost about $10 though through all that :\. You off now then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread And just lost $15 with 88 to 66............... :wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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