Crouch Potato Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread A hand from earlier. IMO I misplayed this one BADLY. There is basically one card I put him on that has me beat and about 5 that I beat. Also, if he bets here I think I call because at heart I am a donk too. As such I should have value bet the river. I didn't, and for some reason that annoys me. Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50 Button is at seat 7 Seat 1: keliwah - $50 Seat 2: Satk65 - $38.50 Seat 3: Fie13 - $85.82 Seat 4: lightermanuk - $84.52 Seat 5: comefish - $9.50 Seat 6: Dweebles - $34.83 Seat 7: 27Nade - $48.25 Seat 8: karlos13 - $18 Seat 9: trucker9972 - $124.95 Seat 10: KimiRaikkonen - $187.74 Moving Button to seat 9 KimiRaikkonen posts small blind ($0.25) keliwah posts big blind ($0.50) karlos13 posts $0.50 Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [6d Kd] to KimiRaikkonen Satk65 folds Fie13 folds lightermanuk calls $0.50 comefish folds Dweebles calls $0.50 27Nade folds karlos13 checks trucker9972 calls $0.50 KimiRaikkonen calls $0.50 keliwah checks Dealing Flop [2d Jd Td] KimiRaikkonen checks keliwah checks lightermanuk bets $0.50 Dweebles calls $0.50 karlos13 folds trucker9972 calls $0.50 KimiRaikkonen raises to $3 keliwah folds lightermanuk calls $3 Dweebles folds trucker9972 folds Dealing Turn [8d] KimiRaikkonen bets $4 lightermanuk calls $4 Dealing River [8s] KimiRaikkonen checks lightermanuk checks Taking Rake of $0.90 from pot 1 KimiRaikkonen shows [6d Kd] KimiRaikkonen has Flush, King high lightermanuk shows [Qh 7d] lightermanuk has Flush, Jack high KimiRaikkonen wins $17.10 with: Flush, King high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I wanted to call here because I felt I had enough outs, but with people to act behind me I couldn't risk it...I don't think; Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50 Button is at seat 9 Seat 1: keliwah - $49.50 Seat 2: Satk65 - $38.50 Seat 3: Fie13 - $85.82 Seat 4: lightermanuk - $77.02 Seat 5: comefish - $9.50 Seat 6: Dweebles - $33.83 Seat 7: 27Nade - $48.25 Seat 8: karlos13 - $17.50 Seat 9: trucker9972 - $123.95 Seat 10: KimiRaikkonen - $197.34 Moving Button to seat 10 keliwah posts small blind ($0.25) Satk65 posts big blind ($0.50) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [8h 5h] to KimiRaikkonen Fie13 folds lightermanuk folds comefish folds Dweebles calls $0.50 27Nade calls $0.50 karlos13 raises to $1.50 trucker9972 calls $1.50 KimiRaikkonen calls $1.50 keliwah calls $1.50 Satk65 folds Dweebles calls $1.50 27Nade folds Dealing Flop [5s Jh 3h] keliwah checks Dweebles checks karlos13 bets $16 (all-in) trucker9972 folds KimiRaikkonen folds keliwah folds Dweebles folds Taking Rake of $0.42 from pot 1 karlos13 shows [9h Ac] karlos13 has High Card: Ace karlos13 wins $8.08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Can't believe i just lost 5-3, when i got to 3-0 i just totally forgot how to play lol. Must be because of tiredness! Will get you another day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Can't believe i just lost 5-3' date=' when i got to 3-0 i just totally forgot how to play lol. Must be because of tiredness! Will get you another day![/quote'] :lol I adjusted my game a bit to suit you, so I'm going to use that as the reason for me winning :tongue2 I've had a pretty good day, but I donked off a fair few chips earlier when i wasn't up for playing. I've done that a bit lately and if I can just play at the right times I think I'll make more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread :lol I adjusted my game a bit to suit you' date=' so I'm going to use that as the reason for me winning :tongue2 I've had a pretty good day, but I donked off a fair few chips earlier when i wasn't up for playing. I've done that a bit lately and if I can just play at the right times I think I'll make more money.[/quote'] No, i got sucked into that all in madness and didn't play my normal game :tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread A win for the donkaments. Button is at seat 3 Seat 2: REVHEAD43 - $211.96 Seat 3: tohumaniac - $49.25 Seat 4: KimiRaikkonen - $49 Seat 5: Daedalus44 - $10 Seat 6: rasmus99 - $55.55 Seat 7: freskabollar - $49 Seat 8: vasili - $83.07 Seat 9: onemountain - $81.34 Seat 10: thebuissness - $77.31 Daedalus44 will be dealt in after the button Moving Button to seat 5 rasmus99 posts small blind ($0.25) freskabollar posts big blind ($0.50) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [Ad 9d] to KimiRaikkonen vasili calls $0.50 onemountain folds Player [***NO PLAYER***] brings $10 to table [1964294] thebuissness did not respond in time and is folded thebuissness folds REVHEAD43 calls $0.50 tohumaniac folds KimiRaikkonen calls $0.50 rasmus99 calls $0.50 freskabollar checks Dealing Flop [3h Ac 9s] rasmus99 checks freskabollar checks vasili checks REVHEAD43 bets $4 KimiRaikkonen calls $4 rasmus99 folds freskabollar folds vasili calls $4 Dealing Turn [6h] vasili checks REVHEAD43 bets $4 KimiRaikkonen raises to $12 vasili calls $12 REVHEAD43 folds Dealing River [4s] vasili bets $4 KimiRaikkonen calls $4 Taking Rake of $2.52 from pot 1 vasili shows [2d 5c] vasili has Straight, 6 high KimiRaikkonen mucks vasili wins $47.98 with: Straight, 6 high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I'm not sure you believe me about the runs on Pkr or you would have left by now, that's a sure sign of bollards coming your way ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread That's ok, his implied odds for calling on the turn were terrible and he didn't get anywhere near enough money out of me once he made his straight. I made the right decisions there and he got lucky. I will get them back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Did i just pull a move off or what? Saw that a couple of hands earlier she had bluffed the river after a check on the turn and knew she wasnt going for the flush after calling my re-raise on the flop so was certain i was winning, she had nothing but got an extra $15 out of her. That's poker baby :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Did i just pull a move off or what? Saw that a couple of hands earlier she had bluffed the river after a check on the turn and knew she wasnt going for the flush after calling my re-raise on the flop so was certain i was winning' date=' she had nothing but got an extra $15 out of her. That's poker baby :dude[/quote'] I thought it was a slightly poor play on the turn. You checked it when there was a four-flush and they could have been semi-bluffing the flop with a flush draw. I knew almost instantly you had Trip Aces but the flush was made on the river and I thought it might have been made. Of course, you could have been certain that they weren't on the flush draw. Nice hand :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I thought it was a slightly poor play on the turn. You checked it when there was a four-flush and they could have been semi-bluffing the flop with a flush draw. I knew almost instantly you had Trip Aces but the flush was made on the river and I thought it might have been made. Of course' date=' you could have been certain that they weren't on the flush draw. Nice hand :ok[/quote'] It was obviously a risk but, i had engineered the situation in the first place by re-raising before the flop to push out the crap hands then re-raise on the flop to make sure, as i say i knew in my gut they weren't on the flush draw so i checked and i was right, they bluffed the river again and i'm the one that's flush instead, cheers :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread It was obviously a risk but' date=' [b']i had engineered the situation in the first place by re-raising before the flop to push out the crap hands then re-raise on the flop to make sure, as i say i knew in my gut they weren't on the flush draw so i checked and i was right, they bluffed the river again and i'm the one that's flush instead, cheers :dude This is never the case in PKR. Particularly when your PF raise was only about 4x BB. I raised 10x BB yesterday and was called by like 10-7 of hearts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread This is never the case in PKR. Particularly when your PF raise was only about 4x BB. I raised 10x BB yesterday and was called by like 10-7 of hearts! Is that why everyone folded then?... Usually i'd agree but in this case i got the desired results. May i just :wall:wall:wall:wall:wall:wall:wall:wall:wall at the flush draw. I think i'll just let them draw out next time and save my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Ok, that last hand you played was quite weird. What did you have? My guess was KQ/KJ but could be wrong. Anyway, your bet on the turn reeked of weakness and I found it very very odd... Table Type: Ring Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50 Button is at seat 10 Seat 1: sunonmun - $95.67 Seat 2: REVHEAD43 - $197.21 Seat 3: tohumaniac - $68.75 Seat 4: KimiRaikkonen - $66.45 Seat 5: 27Nade - $74.93 Seat 6: bonghat - $47.25 Seat 7: mukinyul - $46.75 Seat 8: cadddd - $22.69 Seat 9: Teamwak - $25 Seat 10: thebuissness - $59.79 Moving Button to seat 1 REVHEAD43 posts small blind ($0.25) tohumaniac posts big blind ($0.50) Teamwak posts $0.50 Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [6c 2c] to KimiRaikkonen KimiRaikkonen folds 27Nade calls $0.50 bonghat folds mukinyul calls $0.50 cadddd calls $0.50 Teamwak checks thebuissness calls $0.50 sunonmun calls $0.50 REVHEAD43 calls $0.50 tohumaniac checks Dealing Flop [Kh 2s 7h] REVHEAD43 checks tohumaniac checks 27Nade bets $4 mukinyul folds cadddd folds Teamwak folds thebuissness folds sunonmun calls $4 REVHEAD43 folds tohumaniac folds Dealing Turn [Jd] 27Nade bets $6 sunonmun calls $6 Dealing River [2h] 27Nade bets $4 sunonmun raises to $12 27Nade: lol 27Nade folds Taking Rake of $1.60 from pot 1 sunonmun doesn't show sunonmun wins $30.40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Ok, that last hand you played was quite weird. What did you have? My guess was KQ/KJ but could be wrong. Anyway, your bet on the turn reeked of weakness and I found it very very odd... Table Type: Ring Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50 Button is at seat 10 Seat 1: sunonmun - $95.67 Seat 2: REVHEAD43 - $197.21 Seat 3: tohumaniac - $68.75 Seat 4: KimiRaikkonen - $66.45 Seat 5: 27Nade - $74.93 Seat 6: bonghat - $47.25 Seat 7: mukinyul - $46.75 Seat 8: cadddd - $22.69 Seat 9: Teamwak - $25 Seat 10: thebuissness - $59.79 Moving Button to seat 1 REVHEAD43 posts small blind ($0.25) tohumaniac posts big blind ($0.50) Teamwak posts $0.50 Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [6c 2c] to KimiRaikkonen KimiRaikkonen folds 27Nade calls $0.50 bonghat folds mukinyul calls $0.50 cadddd calls $0.50 Teamwak checks thebuissness calls $0.50 sunonmun calls $0.50 REVHEAD43 calls $0.50 tohumaniac checks Dealing Flop [Kh 2s 7h] REVHEAD43 checks tohumaniac checks 27Nade bets $4 mukinyul folds cadddd folds Teamwak folds thebuissness folds sunonmun calls $4 REVHEAD43 folds tohumaniac folds Dealing Turn [Jd] 27Nade bets $6 sunonmun calls $6 Dealing River [2h] 27Nade bets $4 sunonmun raises to $12 27Nade: lol 27Nade folds Taking Rake of $1.60 from pot 1 sunonmun doesn't show sunonmun wins $30.40 On this hand i was trying to get paid in the hope he'd miss the flush, but it came on the river and i had to fold my K10, my kicker wasnt great that's why i bet so little, i guessed if i checked he'd come way over thetop on the turn and i wanted to see the river. BTW how funny is 'the business'? She's been caught out numerous times, twice by me, bluffing or semi-bluffing and she calls me a donk, trust me i wouldn't be calling her if i knew she wasn't trying to bluff the hands. It's hilarious she can't see how much info she gives away each hand so can't understand my calls :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Absolutely, I've been watching for a while now. Against you keep calling, but she is paying a bit more attention than your average donk. She seems to be respecting my raises and hasn't tried anything against me so I expect she has her targets, and I guess you might be one of them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Btw, on that hand where you had K10 I like a check on the flop. Against so many players you can easily be behind, but we both have our styles. Either way I think the river bet is a poor one if you aren't trying to induce a bluff. I prefer a check/call or check/fold, or even a bigger sized bet, where someone who doesn't have the flush might fold a bigger king etc. It also takes away the bluff of the other person a bit. Just my two cents though, I'm not exactly flush with poker knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Almost laid this down but I had to call. The min raise was kinda odd and I felt if they had a big ace the raise would be bigger. Thought maybe a mid pair. Raised on the flop and only a call which suggested to me a flush draw. Maybe trips but after my raising surely that'd have been the time to move all-in? The all-in shove on the turn suggested flush draw and helped my cause, though it turns out my read was horribly wrong: Table Type: Ring Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50 Button is at seat 5 Seat 1: sunonmun - $109.57 (away from table) Seat 2: REVHEAD43 - $196.71 Seat 3: tohumaniac - $72.93 Seat 4: KimiRaikkonen - $65.20 Seat 5: 27Nade - $76.20 Seat 6: bonghat - $46.67 Seat 7: Yumaha - $10 Seat 8: cadddd - $20.94 Seat 9: Teamwak - $24.50 Seat 10: thebuissness - $41.79 Yumaha will be dealt in after the button Moving Button to seat 7 cadddd posts small blind ($0.25) Teamwak posts big blind ($0.50) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [As Td] to KimiRaikkonen 27Nade: iv seen u bet numerous times with nothing on the river, im proved right again, now who's got ur money, and whos the donk?.... thebuissness folds REVHEAD43 folds tohumaniac folds KimiRaikkonen calls $0.50 27Nade folds bonghat folds cadddd raises to $1 thebuissness: do u not know the differece between calling and raising and betting obviously not donkey Teamwak calls $1 KimiRaikkonen calls $1 Dealing Flop [5c Ad 9d] cadddd bets $1 tohumaniac: said the king of donks Teamwak calls $1 KimiRaikkonen raises to $4 cadddd calls $4 27Nade: just compare our stacks and u know the answer Teamwak folds Dealing Turn [2s] cadddd bets $15.94 (all-in) 27Nade: seems like iv got to you lol KimiRaikkonen calls $15.94 KimiRaikkonen shows [As Td] cadddd shows [Kc Ks] Dealing River [2h] Taking Rake of $2.19 from pot 1 cadddd has Two Pairs: Kings, 2s KimiRaikkonen has Two Pairs: Aces, 2s KimiRaikkonen wins $41.69 with: Two Pairs: Aces, 2s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Absolutely' date=' I've been watching for a while now. Against you keep calling, but she is paying a bit more attention than your average donk. She seems to be respecting my raises and hasn't tried anything against me so I expect she has her targets, and I guess you might be one of them lol[/quote'] I know she knows that i call, therefore next time i check, she'll bet, knowing i'll call, the problem for her is that i'm only playing the nuts v her next time :lol. Btw, on that hand where you had K10 I like a check on the flop. Against so many players you can easily be behind, but we both have our styles. Either way I think the river bet is a poor one if you aren't trying to induce a bluff. I prefer a check/call or check/fold, or even a bigger sized bet, where someone who doesn't have the flush might fold a bigger king etc. It also takes away the bluff of the other person a bit. Just my two cents though, I'm not exactly flush with poker knowledge. To be honest i had no idea what to do all through that hand as i was in such a bad position, i took a chance and it went down. ill take your advice though with the check on the river next time :ok. Also looks like you and business are chumming up, i always thought you were conspiring against me :moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread As I said, she's a more alert type of donk. I wouldn't want to defend myself against her, I would rather just let her think your a donk and use that to advantage. Keep your friends close and enemies even closer, that's what I'm doing :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread As I said' date=' she's a more alert type of donk. I wouldn't want to defend myself against her, I would rather just let her think your a donk and use that to advantage. Keep your friends close and enemies even closer, that's what I'm doing :)[/quote'] I see your thinking, it's not so bad she thinks i'm a donk as i'm gonna get loads of action haha, i'm not the best player but she massively under--estimates me lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread I just don't understand her check on the turn then, at least bet to see if there is a flush draw the guy was low stacked he wouldnt have called hoping for a heart. She basically handed him the hand on a plate, And she calls me the donk :rollin:rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Yes, she's not the smartest. But she is kind of fun, she thinks she's better than she is, which well amusing in itself. Let's hope she has a pretty face, otherwise she doesn't have much in life to go on :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Let's hope she has a pretty face' date=' otherwise she doesn't have much in life to go on :P[/quote'] Lol! Certainly she won't be making any money out of poker letting people outdraw her with a one outter. Honestly i'm baffled how she can call me a donk, proclaim she knows what she's doing and then let 4 hearts come on the board in that hand when she had a set on the flop. I almost feel sorry for her, but not quite... :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread She can't even spell Business properly :) God I'm bored, no hands at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread She can't even spell Business properly :) God I'm bored' date=' no hands at all![/quote'] Yeah lol, same here... i've thrown down Ace high many times though and rightly on every occasion, apart from the one where you raised me in the SB and i had A9s but the flop was shockin. What did you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Yeah lol' date=' same here... i've thrown down Ace high many times though and rightly on every occasion, apart from the one where you raised me in the SB and i had A9s but the flop was shockin. What did you have?[/quote'] J-10. I figured I could open the pot and push you off if you don't hit, and you miss the flop more often than not :tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread J-10. I figured I could open the pot and push you off if you don't hit' date=' and you miss the flop more often than not :tongue2[/quote'] Nice, i'm really not in the mood to get involved in hands though, i'm either hitting the flop hard or folding. Like much earlier i was in SB, raised BB with top pair and high kicker, but he re-raised and i really couldn't be arsed to get involved as there were many things which could beat me so i layed it down, that's when i said "i'll give you the botd". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread Yeah, I can't be bothered either, but I was bored and felt like I could get away with it. Really can't be arsed as the fish aren't swimming but I don't want to miss them when they come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Re: Crouchie's Poker Thread 99% of the time I fold here but the continuation bet reeked of weakness: Table Type: Ring Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50 Button is at seat 6 Seat 1: pengwin - $65.22 Seat 2: REVHEAD43 - $197.59 Seat 3: riccohb - $58.16 Seat 4: KimiRaikkonen - $94.97 Seat 5: 27Nade - $86.92 Seat 6: ShiftyShivy - $43.50 Seat 7: boabsta - $26.12 Seat 8: Voltus - $26.82 Seat 9: Teamwak - $19.34 Seat 10: cadddd - $30 Moving Button to seat 7 Voltus posts small blind ($0.25) Teamwak posts big blind ($0.50) cadddd posts $0.50 Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [Td Tc] to KimiRaikkonen cadddd checks 27Nade: my timings good pengwin raises to $1.50 REVHEAD43 folds riccohb folds KimiRaikkonen calls $1.50 27Nade folds ShiftyShivy folds boabsta folds Voltus folds Teamwak calls $1.50 cadddd folds Dealing Flop [Qh 4h Ac] Teamwak checks Teamwak: mines not pengwin bets $1 KimiRaikkonen raises to $5 Teamwak folds pengwin folds Taking Rake of $0.36 from pot 1 KimiRaikkonen doesn't show KimiRaikkonen wins $6.89 ...5 seconds later... pengwin: kk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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