Racing Chat - Sunday 5th February

[MCLARKE]

2 minutes ago, Zilzalian said:

You gotta be in it to win it Micheal no use staring in disbelief at what you didn't do after the event. even if he wanted to keep his stakes down he could have done either 2 x 20p L15 or a 30p and a 10p and those 4 singles for the same cost.

I view this as a fun bet, over the long term I'm pretty sure you would be better off with the boring old singles at BSP

[Zilzalian]

25 minutes ago, MCLARKE said:

I view this as a fun bet, over the long term I'm pretty sure you would be better off with the boring old singles at BSP

he would still have had his singles to the same stake.

[The Equaliser]

11 hours ago, The Equaliser said:

Free Lucky 15 Bet after signing up with Betfred  I was going to count these as losers if they lost but it will mess up my accounting so I won't)

3.03 Her Striking Out 9/4

3.55 Muss Creative Control 7/4 (my PL Nap today with Hughsie aboard)

4.03 Her Jasmiwa 3/1

4.25 Muss Gard De Champs 3/1

1 x 0.40 win L15 = poss return of 153.60

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Singles:

1.55 Muss Hasankey 0.50 ew at 16/1

2.33 Her Astra Via 1 pt win at 7.4

3.03 Her Town Parks 1 pt win at 6.2

3.40 Leop Irish Point 1 pt win at 11.5

Total stakes today = 4 pts

RESULTS UPDATE

No winners in the Free Lucky 15 bet today but one singles winner yields a small profit of 2.10 points on the day.  MTD -19.92 & YTD -43.62

Following criticism levied at me again today, I will be changing tack on the remaining 4 days of 6 points on my Lucky 15 bets.  From tomorrow (later) I will be doing 3 Lucky 15's, one for 20p and two others for 10p total 6 points.  The first will be with so called strong favourite contenders, the next will be with so called "main" players and the last will be with outsiders.

With all this flak I'm getting Lucky 15's don't seem to me to be a "fun" bet.

[MCLARKE]

32 minutes ago, The Equaliser said:

With all this flak I'm getting Lucky 15's don't seem to me to be a "fun" bet.

I feel your pain, it's days of grief with the occasional day of happiness

A bit like being married !

[Zilzalian]

11 hours ago, The Equaliser said:

RESULTS UPDATE

No winners in the Free Lucky 15 bet today but one singles winner yields a small profit of 2.10 points on the day.  MTD -19.92 & YTD -43.62

Following criticism levied at me again today, I will be changing tack on the remaining 4 days of 6 points on my Lucky 15 bets.  From tomorrow (later) I will be doing 3 Lucky 15's, one for 20p and two others for 10p total 6 points.  The first will be with so called strong favourite contenders, the next will be with so called "main" players and the last will be with outsiders.

With all this flak I'm getting Lucky 15's don't seem to me to be a "fun" bet.

Criticism? trying to help you out, it is not flak, its advice, okay i say shit like shakes head in disbelief etc but that is my quirky humour, i even do that to myself . Also- in my advice to everyone on the lucky 15 page i say "try to avoid putting all favs/short prices on a lucky 15". why not just do what u did yesterday but if you have 4 singles reduce the stakes on the first lucky to put the second on surely you could see the logic. Stop being so sensitive and just enjoy your betting. 3 winners from those 4 singles would not have been much fun you would have been steaming when a **** like me pops up and tells you how much you would/could have won.

[The Equaliser]

3 hours ago, Zilzalian said:

Criticism? trying to help you out, it is not flak, its advice, okay i say shit like shakes head in disbelief etc but that is my quirky humour, i even do that to myself . Also- in my advice to everyone on the lucky 15 page i say "try to avoid putting all favs/short prices on a lucky 15". why not just do what u did yesterday but if you have 4 singles reduce the stakes on the first lucky to put the second on surely you could see the logic. Stop being so sensitive and just enjoy your betting. 3 winners from those 4 singles would not have been much fun you would have been steaming when a twat like me pops up and tells you how much you would/could have won.

My dad used to like doing Patents's I can still remember the beaming smile on his face when he used to get one in.  He gave most of his winnings away anyway when he won but thoroughly enjoyed the moment of having a big win.  It is to this end that I endeavour with my multiple bets.  Just to get a buzz when one comes in.  I have no intention of becoming a professional gambler, I just want to be able to have a regular daily bet without losing my shirt.  Your Lucky15 strategy seems to centre around outsiders.  That's OK and I love it when I see you post up a betting slip that says something like cash out for £1.5k or possibly get £13k.  However, I am different to you and my multiples form a big part of my daily stakes, which as Michael @MCLARKE and @Bang onpoint out is very undesirable and probably the quickest way to the poor house.  They are also correct when they say that betting on singles is the only way to make money in this game.  And, as you point out the only way to do it is to specialise in racing and look over and over again at past races and wait until the right opportunity comes to strike a "value" bet.  I have yet to find any criteria that I can use to rely upon for regular daily bets.  But it is my hobby and though I may never find it this is what I want to do.  I will press ahead with my revised plan for the Lucky 15's.  Good luck in your endeavour too    

[Zilzalian]

2 hours ago, The Equaliser said:

My dad used to like doing Patents's I can still remember the beaming smile on his face when he used to get one in.  He gave most of his winnings away anyway when he won but thoroughly enjoyed the moment of having a big win.  It is to this end that I endeavour with my multiple bets.  Just to get a buzz when one comes in.  I have no intention of becoming a professional gambler, I just want to be able to have a regular daily bet without losing my shirt.  Your Lucky15 strategy seems to centre around outsiders.  That's OK and I love it when I see you post up a betting slip that says something like cash out for £1.5k or possibly get £13k.  However, I am different to you and my multiples form a big part of my daily stakes, which as Michael @MCLARKE and @Bang onpoint out is very undesirable and probably the quickest way to the poor house.  They are also correct when they say that betting on singles is the only way to make money in this game.  And, as you point out the only way to do it is to specialise in racing and look over and over again at past races and wait until the right opportunity comes to strike a "value" bet.  I have yet to find any criteria that I can use to rely upon for regular daily bets.  But it is my hobby and though I may never find it this is what I want to do.  I will press ahead with my revised plan for the Lucky 15's.  Good luck in your endeavour too    

Okay but like you said your not a gambler, if you was i would totally agree with @MCLARKE and @Bang on singles only, but because your basically fishing about for mainly short price winners with pennys and because of the triple/double odds for one winner on a lucky 15 it makes the patent very poor value and even trixies very very poor value. you did every thing right except not covering the 4 singles in an additional lucky15. like i said you would have been gutted if 3 or all 4 of those singles had won. (the one winner you had was profit on a treble odds lucky15) might i finally suggest 4 singles and also same 4 singles in 1 lucky 15 per day a serving suggestion would maybe be something like a 20p lucky 15 (£3.00) and 1 point singles (£4.00) = 7points per day which is about what u spend as it is. the odds should be irrelevant in your case just use the horses you pick.

Edited February 6, 2023 by Zilzalian