Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

[ultravires]

	Saturday 7 January 2012	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	Siena v Lazio (17:00 GMT)	3.45	3.2	2.48	100.56 %
	Internazionale v Parma (19:45 GMT)	1.42	4.7	10.5	101.22 %
	Sunday 8 January 2012	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	Udinese v Cesena (11:30 GMT)	1.49	4.4	9	100.95 %
	AS Roma v Chievo (14:00 GMT)	1.62	3.8	7.2	101.93 %
	Atalanta v AC Milan (14:00 GMT)	5.5	3.6	1.79	101.83 %
	Bologna v Catania (14:00 GMT)	2.48	3.25	3.4	100.50 %
	Cagliari v Genoa (14:00 GMT)	2.4	3.2	3.55	101.09 %
	Lecce v Juventus (14:00 GMT)	8	4.2	1.55	100.83 %
	Novara v Fiorentina (14:00 GMT)	3.2	3.2	2.64	100.38 %
	Palermo v Napoli (19:45 GMT)	3.3	3.4	2.5	99.71 %

[kerry9000]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Palmero - Napoli BTTS 1.8 Bet365 Palermo has only failed to score once in their last four home games. Napoli have been scoring quite freely this season and have also conceded goals to the likes of Lecce and Novara

[Dylan]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Happy new year all. As its still quite early in the week i've yet to put any bets on but one game i'm certainly looking at is Lazio to beat Siena. Lazio have been an excellent away side this term, with 5 wins and 2 draws, whilst on the other hand Siena’s home form has been sketchy, starting well but with no win in 4, which has led to them sliding worryingly down the league. D’Agostino, Siena most influential player will be missing through suspension, as will Vitello (ever present defender) and Brkic (no 1 GK) is still out for another 2-3 weeks at least I believe, and all three will be big losses. Lazio do have a fair few players out themselves but most of these are long term injuries with the exception of Marchetti and with the back 4 all fit again, and with Hernanes, Klose and Rocchi in attack I fancy them at the moment to nick the win here. There is actually a couple of other away wins that I might have a look at in Fiorentina and Genoa, although still far from deciding whether i'll take these or not. The price on Roma has risen a bit with the news of Osvaldo's injury, but might still be a bit low for me to take, although I expect them to win. Could be a few goals in that one though as well as the games in Bologna and Palermo I feel, although more analysis is again needed.

[Simeon Borisof]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

Happy new year all. As its still quite early in the week i've yet to put any bets on but one game i'm certainly looking at is Lazio to beat Siena. Lazio have been an excellent away side this term, with 5 wins and 2 draws, whilst on the other hand Siena’s home form has been sketchy, starting well but with no win in 4, which has led to them sliding worryingly down the league. D’Agostino, Siena most influential player will be missing through suspension, as will Vitello (ever present defender) and Brkic (no 1 GK) is still out for another 2-3 weeks at least I believe, and all three will be big losses. Lazio do have a fair few players out themselves but most of these are long term injuries with the exception of Marchetti and with the back 4 all fit again, and with Hernanes, Klose and Rocchi in attack I fancy them at the moment to nick the win here. There is actually a couple of other away wins that I might have a look at in Fiorentina and Genoa, although still far from deciding whether i'll take these or not. The price on Roma has risen a bit with the news of Osvaldo's injury, but might still be a bit low for me to take, although I expect them to win. Could be a few goals in that one though as well as the games in Bologna and Palermo I feel, although more analysis is again needed.

what do you think about 2 home wins Inter-Parma 1 Udinese-Cesena 1 Inter are starting to find themselves and are in a 4 match winning streak and Saturday will face at home a team who have't win for 6 matches.Parma lost their 3 away games but managed to keep the draw against Cagliari.I think Inter on -1 AH will be a good bet also. Udinese didn't win for 3 matches but they were against Celtic,away at Rome and against high-flying Juventus.Udinese is the best home side so far wiith only 2 goals conceded.Di Natale is again the man in form.Last game Cesena were travelling to visti Atalanta and lost 4;1 before that they won against Palermo and 3 loses in a row without scoring a sungle goal-Juventus,Parma,Cesena.I think Udinese will beat them:hope too and -1Ah is a good bet to them too.

[TotoSchillaci]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Siena Lazio looking at Lazio DNB some in depth analysis would be much appreciated. Are Siena capable of hurting Lazio? Thanks :ok

[Dylan]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

what do you think about 2 home wins Inter-Parma 1 Udinese-Cesena 1

Well Inter should probably be able to get the win, but odds of 1.4 would be nowhere near enough to tempt me to back them. I still feel there is a lot of risk when backing Inter and they are still way from being a rejuvenated team despite a few wins before the winter break. The Leece result flattered them, as Leece’s focus on constant attacking meant that Inter were always able to outnumber the defence when they had the ball. Other than that most of Inters games recently have been tight one goal wins, with late-ish goals if I recall and a number of goals from set pieces rather than direct play. They are so devoid of creativity and a link between midfield and attack that they are always likely to struggle to score goals at least until they can get Sneijder and Forlan back again (other than that Leece game, Alverez has really struggled to make any sort of impact). Parma aren’t particularly good either, but have quite a defensive approach which will make it hard for Inter to break them down. With Udinese again I suspect that they will get the win but it should be a tight game. Cesena are not blessed with too many skilful players but they are hardworking, solid and should be able to make a contest of it as there style of play and players are more suited to playing Udinese then many of the other teams in this league. More than likely this is a no bet for me, especially as odds are low again. However maybe some of the other Serie A specialist may have a different opinion to me. Good luck with whatever you pick.

[Dylan]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January May be worth waiting for starting line ups before going in on Lazio. I certainly will be. Latest news is that a number of key Lazio players are doubtful including Hernanes, Sculli, Dias and Diakite, although I would guess injuries are not too bad as all these have been named in the squad. However if Hernanes particulalry doesn't make it, this would detract quite a lot on Lazio's ability to win as he's arguably their best player and without him they may have to alter tactics a little. Konko is definitely out as well.

[methanol]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January i m thinking of betting for Juve to win with 1-0 handicap @ 2.45 (Bwin) as Lecce are horrible, Juve are on the ascendance this season and i cant see the home side getting anything from this match. Will wait to see lineups first etc. Udinese to win to nil looks also attractive @ 2.05. They have won 7/8 games and have conceded just 2 goals.

[bozz]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

May be worth waiting for starting line ups before going in on Lazio. I certainly will be. Latest news is that a number of key Lazio players are doubtful including Hernanes' date=' Sculli, Dias and Diakite, although I would guess injuries are not too bad as all these have been named in the squad. However if Hernanes particulalry doesn't make it, this would detract quite a lot on Lazio's ability to win as he's arguably their best player and without him they may have to alter tactics a little. Konko is definitely out as well.[/quote'] Thanks for the update Dylan. How do you think Napoli will react after the break ? They face Palermo with new coach in Mutti, and some players missing in Pinilla, Hernadez, Ilicic, Zahavi.... maybe the plyers still trying to adjust to new coach and system

[Dylan]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January It's quite hard to tell with Napoli at the moment. Undoubtably an excellent side, but a fair bit of negativity around the club with reports that Cavani fell out with the manager and a number of other players are unhappy following a spate of armed robberies on themselves or family. However having said that they then go out and win 6-1 in the last game before the winter break so things probably aren't actually that bad. I think with the number of attacking injuries or suspensions that Palermo have, its probably is worth backing Napoli (although with a bit of caution) here. As you say they will miss Hernandez, Zahavi, Pinilla and Illicic who between them have contributed half of Palermo's goals this season, and whilst Miccolli is likely to regain his place the thought of him playing alongside Budan and maybe the debutant Vazquez shouldn't alarm Napoli too much. Napoli are at full strength with the exception of Lavezzi, and as this is the first game back there is no suggestion that Mazzari will be looking to rotate or rest anyone so it should be a very strong looking Napoli lineup and one that I fancy should be able to get the win.

[artist]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

Sport	Football (Italy)
Event	Siena - Lazio
Selection	Lazio 0 (Asian-handicap)
Strength	10/10
Date	07/01/2012
Bookmaker/Price	10bet @ 1.84
Reasoning	Lazio have an impressive away record of 5 won games 2 draw ended ones and no defeat. They are the best Serie A team in away matches and they score 2 goals / away match. It's been months since Siena has won a match and they don't have the most convenient opponent today. I think a draw is the most they can get out of this game, the only option left being a defeat for them. Peple seem to bet on them intensely, but in my humble opinion that's silly. You could bet on the draw, although I don't see it as the most probable outcome, but to bet on Lazio to lose their first away game to Siena, that's a silly thing to do, when Lazio haven't lost away to Napoli and won to Fiorentina.

[artist]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

Sport	Football (Italy)
Event	Atalanta - AC Milan
Selection	draw
Strength	9/10
Date	07/01/2012
Bookmaker/Price	Pinnacle Sports @ 3.60
Reasoning	Atalanta is a strong team, especially at home. THey have no defeat in the home matches and only 2 defeats in the away ones. Milan have 4 victories, 2 draw ended games and 2 defeats in the away games they played this season. Atalanta has the greatest number of draw ended games in Serie A, 8 from a total of 16 games played. AC Milan has the habbit of getting a point from tough matches that's why I think they'll settle for a draw. Atalanta got a draw at home against Inter 1-1 and Napoli 1-1, teams that are comparable to Milan. Milan settled for a draw to FIorentina, lost to Juve and Napoli, so they're not so impressive away from home. I think a draw is the best option for this one and 3.6 are great odds for that.

[artist]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

i m thinking of betting for Juve to win with 1-0 handicap @ 2.45 (Bwin) as Lecce are horrible' date= Juve are on the ascendance this season and i cant see the home side getting anything from this match. Will wait to see lineups first etc. Udinese to win to nil looks also attractive @ 2.05. They have won 7/8 games and have conceded just 2 goals.

Juve are not the most impressive team away from home and Lecce are definitely not horrible as they got a 3-4 defeat against Milan after leading 3-0 and a 2-3 defeat at homne against Lazio. These 2 teams are both better in away matches than Juve. I see this one as a 1-2, but I don't bet on it as I find the odds of 1.5 for Juve unacceptable. I do see some value however in Lecce scoring, odds around 1.6 and in Lecce +2.

[McNasara]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Inter @1.60 at local is enough for me. Although Chivu, Viviano, Sneijder, Jonathan and Forlan are missing (probably due to importance of next match), home team want to win and be in a good mood before derby against Milan. On the other hand, Parma is totally unpredictable team, but will be without most experienced defender Lucarelli who is suspended for this match and it can significantly influence their defensive tactic. Anyway, they often lose on Giuseppe Meazza and I predict that it will be tonight.

[artist]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

Inter @1.60 at local is enough for me. Although Chivu' date=' Viviano, Sneijder, Jonathan and Forlan are missing (probably due to importance of next match), home team want to win and be in a good mood before derby against Milan. On the other hand, Parma is totally unpredictable team, but will be without most experienced defender Lucarelli who is suspended for this match and it can significantly influence their defensive tactic. Anyway, they often lose on Giuseppe Meazza and I predict that it will be tonight.[/quote'] So your practically saying that although Chivu, Sneijder and FOrlan are missing(3 of their most important players, especially sneijder), home team want to win ? Is that your reasoning ? WANT to win ? Are there teams who get on the field and drink beer or something ? Are there teams who don't want to win and be in a good mood for the next match ? You're saying Parma are unpredictable, but you still find odds around 1.6 value ? Whatever ... if I'm to give my opinion on this one, as a mediocre punter that I am, it could be over 2.5 and Parma could score(I think they have decent odds for scoring).

[methanol]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Added some more bets for the weekend so to sum up: 1) Lecce-Juve over 3.5 @ 3.20. Juve's form is really good while Lecce havent won in 8 games in their home turf (if i remember correctly) and they have been involved in really high scoring matches lately. I find a small bet on this attractive. 2) Lecce-Juve 1-0 Handicap and Juve to win @ 2.45 for the reasons i presented on the last post as well as the previous bet. 3) Inter-Parma 0-1 Handicap and Inter to win @ 2.10 as Inter has been on a good run, Parma's on a landslide lately and i believe inter can clear the handicap. 4) Udinese to win to nil @ 2.05 for the reasons quoted in my last post, only a draw against Juve at home for udinese and only 2 goals conceded. I don't see Cesena scoring against the home side. All Bwin odds

[McNasara]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

So your practically saying that although Chivu, Sneijder and FOrlan are missing(3 of their most important players, especially sneijder), home team want to win ? Is that your reasoning ? WANT to win ? Are there teams who get on the field and drink beer or something ? Are there teams who don't want to win and be in a good mood for the next match ? You're saying Parma are unpredictable, but you still find odds around 1.6 value ?

All these Inter players practice with other team players, but not going to play tonight so as not to renew injury before an important match against Milan. When Ranieri took over team, they again shows games from Mancini and Mourinho era. Ranieri's team brought the winning mentality, as opposed to start of the season when players are seemed very poor on the pitch ("drinking beer without a great need to win"). Inter will be especially motivated to win tonight, because v Milan could easily not win. So three points are required in order to avoid too much moved away from leading teams. Parma is unpredictable team this season, but still have 5 losses in 7 away games. However, their tactics is defensive with fast counter attacks by wing attackers. They conceded six goals in their last two games, both 3-3 home games, against Lecce and Catania. But now rival is stronger Inter at away game and while they lack key defender, so it's will be tough night for them. Siena's next opponent and it's much more important game. Giovinco and Floccari are players who can create problems to each team, but don't see that make positive result at Guiseppe Meacca where Parma won only once (99') in 18 visits. Julio Cesar, Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Nagatomo, Zanetti, Motta, Cambiasso, R.Alvarez, Milito, Pazzini Mirante, Zaccardo, Santacroce, Paletta, Gobbi, Biabiany, Morrone, Gallopa, Modesto, Giovinco, Floccari My fair odds are below 1.45 and this prize at local is value for me!!! Are you OK now? :cigar Inter v Parma 1 @1.60 (local) 3/10

[McNasara]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

Whatever ... if I'm to give my opinion on this one' date=' as a mediocre punter that I am, it could be over 2.5 and Parma could score(I think they have decent odds for scoring).[/quote'] Why??? I think will be 1:0 or 2:0 :)

[dak]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Siena - Lazio: Lazio @ 2.65 (Titanbet) 10/10 This is a good price for Lazio's win, I think. Siena is in 16th place with 15 points and hasn't won since 30 October 2011 going 0-2-5 since then. Lazio is in 4th place with 30 points and only 4 points out of first place. Lazio is the best away team (5-2-0 record) and has the better quality to defeat an unimpressive Siena team.

[ultravires]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January There has been a drift on the Lazio price due to Hernanes probably not making the starting XI. There isn't an able replacement so Lazio will probably play 4-4-2 should he only make the bench. Lazio DNB is a reasonable option IMO as they still carry the greater threat.

[KavkaZ]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Siena - Lazio Pick: Lazio Goal Before 62:00 @ 1.83 2/10 Bet365 I put on Lazio to put the ball in the net before the minute 62. :ok Inter - Parma Pick: Early Booking? Yes. Until 28:00 @ 1.83 2/10 Bet365 I take on the cards market, according to stats it will be a card from the 1st minute to 28th. Referee stats: * 6 out of 7 time this season Giannocarro show the card, early (8' - 20' - 27' - 21' - 12' - 21' ) . Exception game Fiorentina - Catania. Inter at home were shown an early card: * 4 times out of 8 games. Parma away: once in 7. H2H: Card given 3 times in past 4 encounter. Follow referee, no doubt. Pick: Late Goal? Yes. After 73 min and 59 seconds @ 1.83 2/10 Bet365 Parma are number one according to this line, 8-10 (18 goals) between 76th - end of time. Offered extra 2 minutes here. Inter 7-5 (12 goals).

[Dylan]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Don't like the look of this Lazio line up to be honest, defensivly they would concern me. The GK Marchetti is out as we know, and 3 of the first choice defence don't start as Dias and Diakite are on the bench and Konko injured. Midfield is solid but unspectacular with no Hernanes, and may have trouble getting service to Klose and Cisse. No bet for me. Good luck to everyone else.

[Rollodent]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Siena v Lazio - Both teams to Score @ 2.02bf stake 5/10 While Lazio might be the favorite here (I would not underestimate Siena come-back), I see Siena to score once. 6 matches in a row without goals, about time for the strikers to put one in, I really fancy the young Destro tonight.

[bethaze]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January I see good odds Inter - Parma with Handicap -1,5 home. Agree with you McNasara, pick 1 with 1.60 this prize it is great value here. Internationale Milano is the better team but do not underestimate away team with the Giovinco second striker behind Flocari can put some problems. Inter without some key players: Chivu, Viviano, Sneijder, Jonathan, Forlan but I think today Inter make the diference in the pitch. Inter (probable) 4-4-2: Julio Cesar; Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Nagatomo; Zanetti, Motta, Cambiasso, Alvarez; Milito, Pazzini Parma (probable) 4-4-1: Mirante; Zaccardo, Santacroce, Paletta, Gobbi; Biabiany, Morrone, Galloppa, Modesto; Giovinco; Floccari

So....my opionion here is Inter (-1,5) - Parma (+1.5) pick home with @2.48, and another bet over 2.5 worth to try @1.96. Good Luck.

[artist]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Never bet on Italians unless you're guessing a fixed game. Otherwise, on small odds you'll always get f*cked :lol:lol:lol :spank WORST.LEAGUE.FOR.BETTING.EVER

[dak]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January 3-0 for Siena at halftime and two penalties with a red card for Lazio....:eyes This one went weird quickly.....:\

[Rollodent]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

3-0 for Siena at halftime and two penalties with a red card for Lazio....:eyes This one went weird quickly.....:\

Watching the match...agree with the 2 penalties and the red card. Siena playing really strong imho

[Rollodent]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

Siena v Lazio - Both teams to Score @ 2.02bf stake 5/10 While Lazio might be the favorite here (I would not underestimate Siena come-back), I see Siena to score once. 6 matches in a row without goals, about time for the strikers to put one in, I really fancy the young Destro tonight.

Not a single goal from Lazio, poor performance. On this evening match I would expect a solid victory from Inter, but odds are too low. Parma is weak away from home and I do not like their game play ultra-dependent from Giovinco. Pazzini is always big danger upfront, I fancy him going to score @ 2.4 bf stake 2/10 as I see Inter scoring more then once.

[Dylan]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January

Never bet on Italians unless you're guessing a fixed game. Otherwise, on small odds you'll always get f*cked :lol:lol:lol :spank WORST.LEAGUE.FOR.BETTING.EVER

Did you see the match? You could have predicted from the starting defence that Lazio that there was the potential for disarray and thats what happened. The first goal was comedy defending with no-one bothering to close down Destro despite the fact that he must have run about 40 yards with the ball. Another bit of clumsy defending led to the first penalty (correct decision), and whilst the sending off / 2nd penalty was a strange decision (although it was a foul by the GK), even if neither had of been given it would have been 3-0 anyway as Siena had already scored before the ref decided to give the penalty.

[methanol]

Re: Italy - Serie A - 7-8 January Nice return as my bets of over 2.5 and 0-1 handicap on inter were validated. Got some nice odds on the live game as well! Hoping for more!