starshine Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling come to england the muppets clear the shelves of food then end up throwing it all away so it is wrong and selfish well can only speak for people over here i know and for me, and I not know anyone throwing food away, we just get more for the winter and use it than, so based on the winters I know and had experienced I couldnt and cant see anything wrong as it is neccessarry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC8066 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling nope not for me hmm, i got the offer. Did you leave anything in your account or withdraw everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starshine Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling no i left a very tiny bit perhaps I get the bonus the moment they notice that Germany is a country in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starshine Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling received the bonus offer this morning, would rather much prefer to receive my money well I shall keep waiting, did not get reply to email as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC8066 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling i got the bonus but not the withdrawal, just got the standard 'delays because of large volume' mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starshine Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling i got the bonus but not the withdrawal' date=' just got the standard 'delays because of large volume' mail.[/quote'] well at least they not tell you, that you a player based in the United States and therefor is a delay ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heniek31 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Another: Hello, Thank you for your reply and your patience while we complete our review. We understand that this review may cause some inconvenience and this is why are making all efforts to complete it as soon as possible. We expect our review to be completed in the next 24 hours. We will email you with an update as soon as it has been completed. Best Regards, I fired another email yesterday and no answer. However, I have just logged in and my account is open and running :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC8066 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling im seriously ****** off that they arent apparently doing Neteller withdrawals in the order they were made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heniek31 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling I can not withdraw from FT to MB too :eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling So where are the US players at the moment? Especially those who were playing professionally (thinking more of the small stakes grinders) and cannot just give up so easily. - Have they just stopped playing? - Have they moved to the other sites that still accept US Players? If so which ones? - Have they found ways around the residency and are playing at the sites which dont accept US players? - Are they just playing live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starshine Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling So where are the US players at the moment? Especially those who were playing professionally (thinking more of the small stakes grinders) and cannot just give up so easily. - Have they just stopped playing? - Have they moved to the other sites that still accept US Players? If so which ones? - Have they found ways around the residency and are playing at the sites which dont accept US players? - Are they just playing live? As far I know or better I saw advert from site still accept US Players, forgot the name though as I wasnt really interested in joining them or perhaps they moving all to Europe now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling I can not withdraw from FT to MB too :eyes. I found the following statement from FT at various places on the net: Full Tilt Poker Thank you for your patience. We have made significant progress in resolving the recent issues affecting Moneybookers withdrawals. Once this task is complete we will re-enable Moneybookers in the Game Cashier and inform affected players via a pop-up notification. We sincerely apologise for this delay and are working as a priority to resolve this issue. Please rest assured in the interim that all funds remain safe and secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC8066 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling So where are the US players at the moment? Especially those who were playing professionally (thinking more of the small stakes grinders) and cannot just give up so easily. - Have they just stopped playing? - Have they moved to the other sites that still accept US Players? If so which ones? - Have they found ways around the residency and are playing at the sites which dont accept US players? - Are they just playing live? doesnt Merge network accept US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling doesnt Merge network accept US? Yes - and that seems to now be the biggest site accepting US players - but their traffic isn't exactly large!! Pokerscout has their 7 day average at 1,300 - looks like it was on about 1,000 just prior to this (and growing quite fast) - http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=Merge&ab=25991333 That's nothing compared to Pokerstars whjich appears to have had a fall of about 10,000, http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=PokerStars&ab=62617542, Full Tilt which looks to have had a fall of about 4,000 http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=FullTilt&ab=15652815 and Cereus down about 500 http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=Cereus&ab=3911635 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Yes - and that seems to now be the biggest site accepting US players - but their traffic isn't exactly large!! Pokerscout has their 7 day average at 1,300 - looks like it was on about 1,000 just prior to this (and growing quite fast) - http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=Merge&ab=25991333 That's nothing compared to Pokerstars whjich appears to have had a fall of about 10,000, http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=PokerStars&ab=62617542, Full Tilt which looks to have had a fall of about 4,000 http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=FullTilt&ab=15652815 and Cereus down about 500 http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=Cereus&ab=3911635 Looking at those numbers it looks like most US pokerplayers have stopped playing online, only a minority have switched to other US pokerrooms like Bodog, Merge, Cake, and even smaller US sites. I think the only winners are the Casino's that offer live poker in the US.... :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trips Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Seems very confusing, Online Poker Still Available to US Players Published Friday, April 22, 2011 - Online-Casinos.com There is nothing to stop any one of the fifty odd million estimated poker players in the USA from logging on and playing a friendly game of cards with others that are maybe thousands of miles away. The big difference is they won’t be playing on the largest and most reliable of networks, Poker Stars, Full Tilt Poker, or Absolute Poker, but as with everything that is consumer driven there are poker rooms already filling he void left behind by the Department of Justices’ recent action. Really the reasoning behind the shut down if the poker sites named in the indictments have nothing to do with the UIGEA, or for illegal gambling operations. They were seized for alleged banking violations and "bribing" a bank in Utah to accept online gambling transactions. I. Nelson Rose a noted gaming attorney commented that "Online poker players will never be in trouble for playing online poker in the U.S." The fight between the DOJ and the mentioned poker sites has nothing to do with the legality of online poker, and instead with their banking procedures. Good news for poker players if they aren’t afraid of repercussions which some think is just what the Department of Justice is trying to accomplish. Amongst the current sites still accepting US players, Bodog Poker is perhaps the most high profile, which in addition to its poker room also offers sports betting and casino games and on the Merge Gaming Network, Carbon Poker and Lock Poker have also become other preferred alternatives for poker players living in the USA. Carbon Poker says it is swamped with new sign ups for their poker room from players in the US. As a licensed and regulated poker room by the Mohawk Kahnawake territory regulatory jurisdiction and players can be assured that they will have no problems with deposits or withdrawals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC8066 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling still no payment from FT or answers to my email sent on wednesday, confidence on receiving it has now almost gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starshine Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling still no payment from FT or answers to my email sent on wednesday' date=' confidence on receiving it has now almost gone.[/quote'] Dont worry Steve, same here no payment, nor answer to email But I think it will come it will just take endless, well obviously Other things gone back to normal there, I got the bonus offer (not to bad even), my rakeback came friday so sooner or later money will come as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Why did people outside of the US ever withdraw/deposit with Neteller/Moneybookers etc. instead of just doing bank transfers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC8066 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling I deposit via MB/Neteller because i had/have funds going into those from elsewhere (as in from people who i dont wish to have my bank details). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Because it's quicker - I find withdrawals hit Neteller a hell of a lot quicker than they do the bank. And also, for those with real lives, it's handy to keep poker money separate from household money. I know others have, but I've rarely had a problem with Neteller, except when they're doing upgrades and the site's down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averick Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Why did people outside of the US ever withdraw/deposit with Neteller/Moneybookers etc. instead of just doing bank transfers? It's cheaper and way more convenient, for me at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling I deposit via MB/Neteller because i had/have funds going into those from elsewhere (as in from people who i dont wish to have my bank details). Fair enough :ok Because it's quicker - I find withdrawals hit Neteller a hell of a lot quicker than they do the bank. And also, for those with real lives, it's handy to keep poker money separate from household money. I know others have, but I've rarely had a problem with Neteller, except when they're doing upgrades and the site's down Can you withdraw Neteller cash from a high-street? These e-wallets seem only sensible for people doing a lot of online business transactions, otherwise a risky and unnecessary middle-man it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling It's cheaper and way more convenient' date=' for me at least.[/quote'] I get you, but doesn't the security of knowing your money is either on the poker site or in your bank make up for a some inconvenience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Can you withdraw Neteller cash from a high-street? These e-wallets seem only sensible for people doing a lot of online business transactions' date=' otherwise a risky and unnecessary middle-man it seems.[/quote'] No, but then, personally, I wouldn't want to - that's what the household money is for. When I want to buy something with my poker winnings, I do it online - I have a Neteller Virtual credit card. You get a new number generated every time you use it, so rather than being risky, it is actually incredibly safe - safer than using a normal credit card :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glceud Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling I have the Neteller mastercard which you can I think use to get cash out with on the street for a charge. I use the card to pay for petrol shopping etc to avoid those charges. Main reason for using it is to keep my bankroll hidden from the wife though:eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling No, but then, personally, I wouldn't want to - that's what the household money is for. When I want to buy something with my poker winnings, I do it online - I have a Neteller Virtual credit card. You get a new number generated every time you use it, so rather than being risky, it is actually incredibly safe - safer than using a normal credit card :ok Do Neteller guarantee the funds in an account? By which i mean when a person loses money to fraud like identity theft out of their high-street bank account the bank will quickly re-reimburse them. Also i can barely breathe on my card without HSBC ringing to ask if it's me making the transaction. With all thats happened with poker players the last 10days i'm just interested to know about these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Main reason for using it is to keep my bankroll hidden from the wife though:eyes it'll be ceud mile boiseog not failte, and you needing more than gl, if she reads this though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling Do Neteller guarantee the funds in an account? By which i mean when a person loses money to fraud like identity theft out of their high-street bank account the bank will quickly re-reimburse them. Also i can barely breathe on my card without HSBC ringing to ask if it's me making the transaction. With all thats happened with poker players the last 10days i'm just interested to know about these things. Not as far as I know. But if somebody was able to get the cc number I had used for a purchase, it wouldn't do them any good with the numbers being viable for one transaction only. Next time I use it a new number is generated (incuding a new CVC number). And to get in to the Neteller account you need the Account ID, a Secure ID AND a password. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starshine Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: THE major Poker sites and their owners charged with illegal gambling And not to forget neteller are very fussy with IP, my provider changes them once in a while, and every time this happens, account gets closed. When I travel I cant go online as account will be closed. So when someone goes to your neteller with not your ip there isnt any change to do anything, they close it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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