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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Cheers for the comments lads. 2.50 Newcastle Revue Princess has a decent enough strike rate and notably three of her wins have come at this track. She is unexposed over the trip but shapes as if worth a try, and only 1 lb higher than her previous winning high she is handicapped to be involved. 15/2 VC Bet, 2 pts EW (4 places, 1/4 odds). 5.40 Leicester Tanfidh is the least exposed runner in the field and could provide Marcus Tregoning with a timely winner to end his lean spell. She gets this trip, as evidenced by her win at Bath last time out, which also came on fast ground. A mark of 75 seems fair enough and she could go well. 5/2 Bet 365, 5 pts win.

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 5.10 Leicester Muftarres is turned out under a penalty but got on top late last time and should be ahead of the handicapper. He is still competitively weighted on his old form when with Sir Michael Stoute, this extra yardage and the likelihood of a strong pace entitles him to be involved. 6/1 VC Bet, 3 pts EW (3 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Another good day yesterday, Tanfidh sluiced up at Leicester (5/2) after Muftarres (6/1 EW) had gone down narrowly into second but earned some place money. Revue Princess drifted out to 16's at Newcastle and ran a cracker, just touched off out of the places by a neck into fifth to deny some place money. 4.45 Lingfield Vita Mia looks potentially well treated given she runs off 57 here and won off 3 lb higher on turf this season. Although her all-weather mark is lower than that on turf its far too early to conclude she doesn't act on this surface too, as her sole start on polytrack came in a Wolverhampton maiden over in adequate trip, as she was learning the game and was hampered. She's knuckled down since under David Evans and picked up a couple of turf handicaps and is worth another chance back on the sand. 6/1 Bet 365 2 pts EW (3 places, 1/5 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 7.20 Kempton Thunderball looks overpriced here and can go well for Cambridgeshire-supremo Jeremy Glover. This class 4 handicap may not be quite as valuable as the four Newmarket prizes he has added to his trophy cabinet over the years, but his Haafhd gelding is well drawn to attack here over a mile and could take some pegging back, with Godolphin's Burgundy Ice just as happy to come from off the pace as he is to make it. Thunderball showed some decent juvenile form last season when in the care of Alan McCabe. A third in a Newcastle nursery behind Lahaleeb (subsequent Group winner) reads well and it was on polytrack that he broke his maiden thereafter, romping home at Great Leighs by three and a quarter lengths. After an end of season lull he returned in 2009 in decent enough heart, finishing in and around the likes of Suruor, Changing The Guard and Tartan Gunna in turf handicaps off marks around 77-79. That form reads well given the progressive nature of those rivals and even as recently as June, on his penultimate start, he has been running credibly, chasing home the well regarded Captain Brilliance (thought of as a Group horse by his trainer jermey Noseda) before a lack of match fitness and a car park draw proved his undoing at Pontefract earlier this month. He certainly has the ability to win a race at this level and his mark of 79 should not be prohibitive to his chances, especially since Fredi Tylicki takes off 3 lbs and gives him a super chance at a big price. 20/1 Bet 365, 2.5 pts EW (3 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Cesarewitch - Ante-Post (Newmarket, Saturday) (Already had Saga de Tercey for this advised earlier - non-runner) The draw has yet to be made for this race and is supposed to play a big factor despite the fact this is a race run over 2m 2f, but as soon as the draw has been made those with a high berth with be shortening in price and I want to try beat the SP's by taking an early price. Electrolyser looks to have been aimed at this race all along and I think is worth backing now at 8/1 in the hope of a good draw as he is almost certainly going to be sent off much lower than that, perhaps around the 5/1 mark. Although he ended last season on a disappointing note when well beaten at Doncaster he had earlier been off the mark in a Leicester handicap and I've followed him since as he was a decent fourth in the Jorvik Stakes at York in May when outpaced over one and a half miles. He was then a respectable fifth in the Northumberland Plate, coming from off the pace in a race in which the winner made all, and then he landed a listed race at Ascot when last seen. That marks progression, he gets into this race under a 4 lb penalty, and has potential for further improvement. Hopefully he gets a good draw. 8/1 Bet 365, 2 pts win/1 pt place (5 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Another pleasing day yesterday, with 20/1 (-R4) shot Thunderball running the Godolphin favourite close and going down by a neck at Kempton. Vita Mia was unplaced in fifth earlier at Lingfield but it was an overall profit produced on the day. 3.40 Nottingham With Charlie Cool yet to really prove himself in handicap company and Marvo perhaps a few pounds too high in the weights, this looks a good opportunity for the lightly raced Bothy. Ralph Beckett's gelding showed up really well on his debut in a Newbury maiden, chasing home Skany Biscuit with several smart types behind, and he was off the mark himself next time out, landing an Epsom maiden on his reappearance and shaping as if this trip would suit. His latest effort in a listed race at Hamilton was poor, but he has been given a mini break and is open to improvement and could feasibly bounce back in a race that should be set up nicely. 8/1 Bet 365, 2 pts EW (4 places, 1/4 odds). 5.10 Nottingham Cheyenne Red likes to get his toe in so this ground will prove to his liking and he is only 4 lbs higher than when winning at Hamilton recently. Michael Dods' gelding has ran fairly consistently all season and may be worth siding with again at a fair price. 8/1 VC Bet, 3 pts EW (4 places, 1/4 odds). 5.40 Nottingham Tartatartufata is a fibresand specialist, so the slower the ground the better here for James Given's reliable mare. Five furlongs is her trip, she showed she's in good heart with a fair second at Thirsk latest, and off 1 lb lower with a visor fitted again, she can go well. 12/1 Paddypower, 4 pts EW (4 places, 1/4 odds). 3.00 Brighton Montmartre was formerly with Brian Meehan before being bought out of a seller by current trainer David Pinder in June. He is yet to fire for this yard but in such a weak race like this he may spring a shock at a price as he will appreciate this drop back in trip having not got home at Lingfield, latest. 16/1 Bet 365, 1 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds). 4.30 Brighton Seasonal Cross has been narrowly holding on when winning back to back races over a mile on her last two runs so this step back in trip should benefit. She has another 5 lbs on her back this afternoon but arrives in good form and should get her ideal conditions. 4/1 Bet 365, 3 pts EW (3 places, 1/4 odds). 5.00 Brighton Magical Speedfit came close here over course and distance under Kieren Fallon last month but looked just a couple of pounds too high in the handicap, being held by Corlton Charlemagne by a head. However, with an apprentice on top last time he ran a cracker at Ascot going down by only half a length to Even Bolder at Ascot. He has been raised a little bit for that third, but could pick these up late on with the prospect of a strong pace ideal. 8/1 Paddypower, 2 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Magical Speedfit (8/1) met trouble in running but still got up to win and end the day in profit. 4.20 Newmarket They say that fortune favours the brave and that is my rationale behind backing King's Starlet here, the 33/1 outsider on the field in a listed race where typically those at the head of the betting perform best. However, I think the odds compilers have overlooked something very significant today - this is his first run over six furlongs. You would think he was bred to make a miler, but having watched several replays of his recent runs this morning I remain convinced he lacks to stamina for that trip now his career his underway. His run at Sandown on the 22nd August was the most glaring example. Running in a listed race over a mile he broke well, par for the course for him, and showed decent early speed to contest the lead with Say No Now who appears to have been his arch enemy when duelling for the lead this season. Despite sweating himself up into a good lather, he ran better than the bare form suggests and was travelling as well as anything bar the smart winner (Strawberrydaiquiri) at the two pole. It was only inside the final furlong that he faded rapidly into sixth, so he looks as if he is crying out for this step back in trip. I trust Hughie Morrison implicitly and if Hugh thinks King's Starlet is worth a crack at this listed prize then that is good enough for me. 33/1 Bet 365, 2 pts EW (3 places, 1/5 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Bets to copy in here since Friday.. Strike Force 2 pt EW Mondovi 20 pt win/10 pt place Electrolyser 2 pt win/1 pt place Mondovi 30 pt TBP Lujano 2 pt EW Ragamuffin Man 5 pt One more for today... 5.40 Pontefract Ingleby Star - handicapped to have a chance as is back down to a winning mark. Claimer takes off further weight and wasn't disgraced last time out when a respectable sixth. The two market leaders warrant respect here but if they go at it upfront, this one may capitalise. Its been an exciting time for Noel Wilson of late, after news broke that he is to take over from Ian Semple's yard, and he has banged in a winner already today in the shape of Hotham. 20/1 Bet 365, 1 pt EW.

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 12th Monday Indian Art/Bawaardi -2.25 Huzzah -4 Bahamian Lad +36 (WON 10/1) Balnagore -6 Dvinsky +52.5 (WON 15/2) Pts staked: 28.5 P/L: +76.25 13th Tuesday Revue Princess -4 Tanfidh +12.5 (WON 5/2) Muftarres +1.5 (Placed 6/1 EW) Pts staked: 15 P/L: +10 14th Wednesday Vita Mia -4 Thunderball +10 (Placed 20/1 EW) Pts staked: 9 P/L: +6 15th Thursday Bothy -4 Cheyenne Red +3 (Placed 8/1 EW) Tartatartufata -8 Monmartre -2 Seasonal Cross -6 Magical Speedfit +20 (WON 8/1 EW) Pts staked: 30 P/L: +3 16th Friday King's Starlet -4 Strike Force -4 Pts staked: 8 P/L: -8 17th Saturday Electrolyser/Saga de Tercey -11 (including -8 from anteposts on 19th Sept and last week) Mondovi -60 (including 30 pt tbp bet) Lujano -4 Pts staked: 75 P/L: -75 19th Monday Ragamuffin Man +10 (WON 2/1) Ingleby Star -2 Pts staked: 7 P/L: +8 Overall figures Pts staked: 5885.5 + 172.5 = 6058 Profit/loss: +497.42 + 20.25 = +517.67 ROI: +8.5 %

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 4.00 Lingfield This is a bit of a speculative bet but then again this looks a difficult card on a difficult day of racing and nothing much really stands out for me so I will put forward anyway - Quasi Congaree. The thing that draws me in with this one is that he is the only front runner in the race and this looks a race that could get really messy inbehind as the majority of the runners prefer to be held up. He is yet to win after five starts but has shown enough in maidens to suggest he is capable of defying a mark of 68 here with his Ripon run (over this trip) inparticular looking really strong in the context of this race. He has to put behind him a no show at Wolverhampton, latest, but it looks a poor race and with the under-rated (IMO) Cathy Gannon capable from the front (Wind Flow etc) he is my pick from a good draw. 14/1, 2 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 4.30 Lingfield Ten Down is down to a really tasty mark as he has won of many pounds higher in the past. He won off 78 last year and runs off a mere 62 today, but strong doubts exist as to whether this front runner will get the race run to suit this afternoon with an abundance of pace looking likely. Come on Buckers and Love You Louis will also inject pace into things, so it looks like it could favour a hold up type but Kyle is better on turf and may prefer six furlongs and Step It Up may need cutting a few pounds, so this may be best left to Poppanan. The unexposed gelding almost threw away the race at Bath having edged left inside the final furlong when winning a maiden so this step back in trip should suit and he wasn't disgraced at this track last time out when finishing behind Billy Red - who was allowed to make all - on his handicap debut. He gets in off the same mark here and can go well. 5/1 VC Bet, 3 pt EW.

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 5.00 Lingfield Diktalina didnt see out two miles at Newcastle last time out but will appreciate the drop back to 1m 4f here, over which William Muir's filly is a distance winner. Her sole win to date came in a seller but she was an encouraging second to Simple Jim off this mark at Catterick on her penultimate start in handicap company and could return to form here under Martin Dywer. 12/1 Bet 365, 1.5 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 8.50 Kempton This looks probably the best race of the night on what is only an average card but I am wanting to take on Arachnophobia, who was hard ridden to score last time out. I think a 4 lb rise may prevent a follow up for him and with Toto Skyllachy and Dukes Art now non-runners, two others with form chances have been taken out of the equation. I think it will pay to race handily tonight and so am ignoring the hold up runners like Desert Dreamer and Euston Square, who would otherwise have been of interest being only lightly raced in handicaps. My final shortlist is thus comprised of two - Captain Macarry and I Confess. The former has been progressing quite nicely this season and is well drawn in stall 9 tonight. He is 2-2 over seven furlongs on polytrack and although 5 lbs higher than his last win, does look like further improvement could be forthcoming. He has to put behind him a disappointing effort when unplaced at Ascot, latest, but his trainer can be relied upon to get him ready for this and I think a big run is on the cards given he is fairly unexposed on this surface. I Confess was one I was on last time and despite the fact he was taken on for the lead 3f out by Hustle, he travelled inside the final furlong strongly at Lingfield, before the tank simply emptied and he ended up finishing back in midfield. He has another difficult draw tonight but he does typically break well and there is a good possibility he can still dictate the tempo here. Holly Hall takes over from Richard Evans in the saddle and he is only 1 lb higher than when winning at Lingfield in June anyway, so I will take him as a saver for profit if he places. Captain Macarry 9/2 Bet 365, 3 pts win I Confess 20/1 Lads, 1 pt EW (3 places, 1/5 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 3.05 Brighton Patavium Prince usually goes well at this track and is only 2 lb higher than when winning over course and distance in June. He is proven on this going, gets on well with Dane O'Neill, and could see this race set up nicely. 20/1 Bet 365, 1 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 4.40 Brighton With his stable-mate and fellow front runner Rosy Dawn now a non-runner, Megalala's chances look to have been boosted. He acts at this track and hasn't been seeing out his races so a step back in trip seems logical. he's 2 lbs lower than his win here in July and in a weak race like this could go well, if able to fend off the inform and hat-trick seeking Dichoh. 16/1 SJ, 2 pt EW (3 places, 1/5 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 6.50 Kempton Andrew Balding's Lochstar is well berthed to attack this field and has progressed nicely on the all-weather on his three runs to date, winning his maiden at Lingfield in 2006, finishing a good second to Artistic Licence at Great Leighs last year, and winning over this trip at Lingfield in May. A min-break should have rekindled his enthusiasm and he could go well under Davie Probert. 10/1 Bet 365, 2 pts EW (3 places, 1/5 odds). 7.20 Kempton Sahaal has the plum draw and this prominent racer could make a mockery of his price tag now upped in trip if taking to this surface for the first time. 20/1 Bet 365, 1.5 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds). 8.50 Kempton Bold Marc ran well over course and distance, only going down by a narrow margin and despite a 1 lb rise he could still go well given he is ideally drawn and that he has won off much higher marks on turf. He is yet to win on the all-weather, and probably is better on turf, but looked inform last time so I'm chancing. 15/2 Coral, 1 pt EW (3 places, 1/5 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 3.30 Doncaster We Have A Dream - disappointed at Goodwood latest but was quickly turned out under a penalty and all of his previous wins have come after longer intervals inbetween runs. Crucially, Martin Dwyer takes over from Daryll Holland today, that could make a big difference as Dwyer knows how to ride this one to perfection. He is a gutsy sod in a finish if need be, which is just as well considering some of the opposition, such as Michael Jarvis' progressive Russian Spirit, but from a rail draw We Have A Dream can go well nonetheless. 28/1 Blue Sq, 4 pt win, 2 pt place (4 places, 1/4 odds). 4.05 Doncaster My Mate Max was given a superb ride by Tom Queally when winning at Warwick last time out. Graham Gibbons takes over today but he could still go well if handling this ground as his stamina is assured over the trip. 16/1 VC Bet, 3 pt win/1 pt place (4 places, 1/4 odds). 4.40 Doncaster Tanfidh looks ahead of the handicapped turned out under a penalty and looks worth following until beaten judging by his wide margin win last time out. 7/4 Bet 365, 8 pts win.

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread We Have A Dream ran a stormer at Doncaster yesterday. He was backable at 55/1 as they loaded, raced alone on the far rail before losing ground moving into the middle of the course to join the main pack. He looked beaten as they entered the half way stage but Martin Dwyer found more out of him with a fantastic ride and at one point he went upsides the leader with one other and looked like he could get back up to win. He ended up second. My Mate Max was a non runner, Tanfidh, was outclassed by Luc Jordan. I will be winding this thread down in the next few days. I have had my fun on the flat now for the year and my motivation now lies with the handicap chases which have started really well. I don't have the money nor the time to maintain a wide interest in both, so this thread will be shelved until next year after I have found time for a full update in the next week or so. Just a couple of others for today though to add to three bets I posted in the daily threads yesterday but havent had time to copy in here until now.... 5.40 Wolv (yesterday) Vaporetto, 3 pt win/1 pt place at 14/1 bet 365 = lost. 2.20 Doncaster I quite like the chances of Waffle here despite the fact he is long priced. He's a lightly raced three year old that hasn't won since taking a Leicester maiden on debut last April, but he has shown little bits of form that look to give him a chance here. He was a neck second to the highly promising Henry Candy sprinter Armore Propre in an Ascot Group 3 last term and was a respectable second behind Noble Storm in a listed race at Beverley in May, pulling well clear of the remainder of the field. The winner has progressed nicely since and is a listed grade horse so that looks decent form, and although he flopped at Ascot when last seen, perhaps he didn't find six furlongs to his liking. He was running in a Group 3 up against some classy sprinters such as Markab and Jimmy Styles and I am prepared to forgive him that run as he drops down into handicap company here. I noted that the field came down the centre of the track today in the sprint handicap and if they do that tomorrow then he will be well drawn in stall seven, and could be towed into the race with Canadian Danehill drawn next door and Judge 'n Jury and Cape Vale possibly squashing over into a central group and spearheading the attack. 20/1 Bet 365, 2 pts win/1 pt place (4 places, 1/4 odds). 3.30 - Racing Post Plate Crowded House took this in breathtaking fashion last season and shortened up in all of the classic markets following his win in this race and trainer Brian Meehan sends out Dancing David for this year's renewal. The Danehill Dancer colt bolted up in a Newbury maiden at the beginning of the month, after finishing second at Salisbury on his debut, and has already shown he will not mind slightly soft ground. Martin Dwyer rides, and I'm having a tentative punt in a race that looks a bit of a lottery in all honesty! 20/1 VC Bet, 1 pt EW (40/1 for the Derby ante-post with Bet 365). 1.50 Doncaster Baltmore Jack arrives here on top of his game and although stepped up in grade has been running well over this trip. Must proves he handles ground this soft though, so just a modest stake. 15/2 SJ, 1 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds). 5.15 Doncaster Clear Sailing shaped as if needing this trip when narrowly beaten off this sort of mark at Wolv last time out. Recent runs at plating level have brought his mark down, yard should bring out further improvement. 10/1 Bet 365, 1.5 pt EW (3 places, 1/4 odds).

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 7.40 Kempton Ja One stayed on well to win over this trip at Lingfield last time out and hasn't been too harshly treated now reassessed. 8.10 Kempton Hajoum is looking well handicapped with his maiden form franked and if handling this surface should go well. 8.40 Kempton Dukes Art has been progressive since dropped back to this trip and gets on well with Rob Havlin. Looking to close my thread on a high so pushed the boat out and gone for a patent with the above three at 13/8, 15/8 and 7/2 respectively with VC Bet with 3 x 4 pt singles, 3 x 2 pt doubles, 1 x 1 pt treble :hope

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Final Results Update Tuesday 20th Quasi Congaree +6 (Placed 16/1 EW) (4) Poppanan -6 (6) Diktalina -3 (3) Pts staked: 13 P/L: -3 Wednesday 21st Gasalee -7.5 (7.5) Run For Edes -4 (4) Captain Macarry/I Confess +11.5 (WON 9/2) (5) Pts staked: 16.5 P/L: 0 Thursday 22nd Patavium Prince -2 (2) Megalala -4 (4) Lochstar -4 (4) Sahaal -3 (3) Bold Marc -2 (2) Pts staked: 15 P/L: -15 Friday 23rd We Have A Dream +10 (Placed 28/1 EW) (6) My Mate Max NR Tanfidh -8 (8) Vaporetto -4 (4) Pts staked: 18 P/L: -2 Saturday 24th Waffle +3.5 (Placed 22/1 EW) (3) Dancing David -2 Baltimore Jack -2 Clear Sailing NR Ja One/Hajoum/Dukes Art (patent) -19 (19) Pts staked: 26 P/L: -19.5 Overall figures Pts staked: 6058 + 88.5 = 6146.5 Profit/loss: +517.67 - 39.5 = +478.17 ROI: +7.77 %

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread Final Results - Thread profit over the course of the 2009 flat season

flatthreadfinal2009.jpg So thats it then, the season is finally over. it has been a really hectic time for me this season and I dread to think how many hours I have spent both studying and updating this thread! At times it has been really hard to try keep on top of it all as this thread documented every single bet I was placing, which during the peak of the season was around a dozen bets a day. However, I feel as though the effort was worth it, as it has enabled me to see exactly where I stood with regards to flat betting at every point in the season and it has enabled me to learn more about myself as a bettor. Firstly, I will deal with the negatives I have learned. I have learned that I am still prone to chasing losses and that I am sometimes prone to having a bet on race even if nothing much really stands out, to avoid several hours of wasted study etc and to have an interest in a race. A lot of these were the minimum stakes bets and before the Lincoln next year I need to sit down with the data I have now collected and work out whether I should cut out these bets completely and stick solely to my stronger fancies. I think If I was to re-run another thread for the 2010 flat season I would certainly go down this route. A lot of my study is done in patches, the odd hour on a night whilst junk TV is on, or a quick half hour here or there when nothing is happening at work. This has meant posting bets in here several times a day whenever time permits and continually bumping my thread up to the top of the page. Apologies to anyone that may have got annoyed by this, as it did annoy me a bit shoving my thread to the top all of the time, but once I had started with it I wanted to make it a complete collection of all bets. I think if i made a new thread next year and stuck to either maximum bets or stuck to one distance, for example, I could get around this with less bets. Now onto the positives. Firstly, when I started the thread I said I was trying to avoid big priced horses and wanted to try stick to horses less than 10/1. This was a decision reached in view of my results for 2008 when I noted most of my winners were short priced and I wasn't doing very well with outsiders. Well this season I feel as though I have discovered a new edge and I have blown those previous results out of the water with plenty of double figure winners- infact it is the profit from the 16/1, 33/1 and 40/1 shots etc placing that has brought in nice amounts of profit. Like any punter, I get a buzz out of backing a big priced winner that very few others fancy, Comadoir hacking up at Lingfield at 20/1 was perhaps my favourite winner of the season in this respect although Borderlescott winning the Nunthorpe, even if less profitable, was superb for the sentiment. It was around the July meeting at Newmarket that I started to look at races in a more fuller way, as up to then I had been working on my own ratings system and had been backing to place for a while too, and both results weren't winning big profits in the long run. For a few months profit skyrocketed and I was fortunate in that I sensed things were turning and upped stakes according, but September was an awful time for me and I wiped out a great deal of profit that I had built up previously, sadly not seeing that downturn coming. At its peak, thread profit stood at over 900 pts, but continuing to back selections with confidence through my lean spell quickly wiped out that profit and of course attatracted a few sarcastic comments from lurkers to which I felt I had to respond. In view of the slump in fortunes I then decided to cut down stakes back to the small scale from at the start of the season and what happened, two big bets went in the very next day - bets that if backed within the full staking plan would have put me much closer to hitting my target of a seasonal 10 % ROI!! That is just the way it goes I suppose and in the future I will have to try and keep more faith in my ability to prevent similar situations happening in future. So overall, although disappointed with a terrible September and a few bad habits that I can't seem to get rid of, I am very pleased with the profits that I can close this thread with (+478.17 points profit). I will be banking most of that profit but it also means I have a little pot to set up a winter jumps betting bank too, which is where my motivation now lies as I am looking forward to getting stuck into handicap chases daily. I feel as though I have improved as a punter this year and am moving towards getting to where I ultimately want to be - working within the industry or turning pro years down the line if I had a big bank to back me up. Thanks to everyone that has offered words of support and praise and tried to be constructive when things haven't always gone well - I appreciate that a lot and that is what I love about PL :notworthy Wayne

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Re: Fintron's Flat Thread 2009 - Final Profit +478.17 pts Well done Wayne, a great season which is shown by the decent return. As you know, my betting book records every bet i place also & although i have really scaled down since April, i still keep making mistakes in some of the horses i back. I think going over them again will only help you to improve. A great thread & another that finishes in profit. :clap

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