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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Sorry, reason for editing was a late decision to have a saver on Princeful instead of each way on Moleskin. But forgot to change Moleskin back to a win bet. If you see what I mean. May be should have put the correction on a seperate post. But it was just 2 mins after the original post. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 3:40 Wincanton write up This looks a poor race. I would have liked to make Princeful the main bet but do not like taking short prices on heavy ground. Won well last time and looks a genuine type for a still in form trainer. Moleskin jumped poorly last time, had time off since and hopefully has learnt from that. Decent enough bumper form. If acts on the ground should run well. Though stable shut down recently. Spirit Of Man has first run for the Pipe team / for some time. Did however, look more of a stayer than this race might provide. And who knows what James De Vassey is capable of. Moleskin

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Aaaaarrgh! Had a poor day betting. Vibes were wrong for Smuglin, drifted like the proverbial barge. Sometimes wonder whether mares might be in season when that happens. Did not jump well though not too pleased with the ride; held up last in a slowly run race, given plenty to do. May do better in a handicap. May be I am making too many excuses; probably not good enough (2nd). Kicking myself over Dastardly Dick, “won” a race at Exeter (very stiff course) on very soft going. Wincanton on heavy was unlikely to be as stiff a challenge. Then there was no pace. Something I should have seen was a distinct possibility if not probability beforehand. With no obvious front-runner in the field. Badly outpaced with a dawdle early making it a mile sprint (lead turning in, finished nowhere). Serves me right for changing my mind and not going with an each way bet for Moleskin (3rd). Does look as though the winning newcomer from an in form yard could be quite good. Without the winner Princeful would've won easy enough, so might have run to form anyway. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Ante-post Arkle Chase 9 points @ 20/1 (Tote) Arulder (9% 10/1) The run against Free World last time was in a fantastic time, one that suggests he is a top class novice in the making. Had a hard race but given time to recover. Trerrific looking 5 year old, can only improve with age. Very genuine, good jumper, from the right yard for Cheltenham. Possibly will eventually be better over further, but you'd say the same about the last two Arkle winners. Connections are a bit concerned whether he is better right-handed, but at 20/1 worth taking a chance. Runs tomorrow.

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 As you may or may not know, my antepost fancy for the Arkle. Lucky enough (or shrewd) to be on him at 60s ;) Interesting to see what he'll do over 2m4f on soft this weekend. He's entered in the Ryanair too although I can't see them running him against Voy Por Ustedes. The only way he'll go for the 2m4f race is if something happens with Master Minded. He posted a great time not only in the Sandown race, but in the Warwick one he took beforehand as well.The same race Voy Por won before going on to win the Arkle :ok

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 2:35 Sandown 36 points @ 2.25/1 Arulder (36% 7/4) 4 points @ 11/1 Will Be Done (11% 8/1) 3:45 Sandown 19 points @ 5.6/1 Sound Accord (19% 9/2) 13 points @ 8/1 Eric's Charm (13% 13/2) 9 points @ 3.9/1 Cant Buy Time (25% 3/1) 4:20 Sandown 27 points @ 3.8/1 L'Orient Express (27% 11/4) 11 points @ 10/1 Vinimix De Bessy (11% 8/1) Analysis tomorrow

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 2:35 Sandown Have backed Arulder for the Arkle. This increased test, going up in trip, should suit. Staying on over 2m last time. Jumps well, genuine and acts on the ground. Held up / tracks pace. There should be enough pace on here. Buck The Legend, Herecomesthetruth and Massini's Maguire all like to be up there with the pace. Do like Buck The Legend as a horse, saw him at Newbury and was mightily impressed. But ran poorly at Ascot when Twister was in miserable form and things aren't much better now. Massini's Maguire has been a non-runner on similar ground recently. Best form is on good (ish) going. If it is genuinely good-soft and not too tacky, might still run well. Did make mistakes too last time when taken on in front. Herecomesthetruth has won a few small races in impressive style, jumping well. Progressive but may not be top class. Did run out at Cheltenham but has done nothing else wrong. Stable back in blinding form. Pressgang seemed temperamental last time, almost running out in the straight (to his left) at Kempton. Won't be able to give that much ground away today. Is a nice horse physically and improving. Will Be Done probable non-runner. 3:45 Sandown Can't Buy Time and Sound Accord are the two unexposed sorts in the race. Can't Buy Time possibly only just stays the trip and is not an easy ride for a 7lb claimer to get the pace right. AP can't do the weight. With a more experienced rider would've made it the main bet. Stable in good form. Sound Accord has been running well in lesser races. Jumps well for an inexperienced horse. The stiffer test today should suit and improving fast. Eric's Charm used to be a good jumper, still jumps boldly but can hit one. Is a better leaper when out in front and may get a forceful ride by AP and there is nobody better at getting them to jump. Is well handicapped on some of last seasons form. Is a Sandown specialist, with most of his good runs coming there. Mokerhostin ran well at Ascot last time but is exposed and may be better on a sounder surface. Gungadu seems to have lost his form and enthusiasm since running over the National fences. Something Wells I have backed the last twice. But not sure whether this is too far on the ground. Ran well at 2m earlier this season. Usually races prominently over shorter trips. New Little Brick's looked a decent horse a couple of years ago but has not looked so genuine of late. Reasonable reappearance and has a chance if putting it all in. Lacdoudal is well handicapped on his best form but did not show enough on his hurdling reappearance, after injury. According To John would walk this on his 3rd to Denman in the Sun Alliance but has not been out for over a year. Interesting if there is a market move for him. 3:45 Sandown L'Orient Express and Good Company both won poor races easily on their last starts. Latter was the only one of the principal runners to race wide and may be a bit flattered (short price today). L'Orient Express won at Wincanton (right-handed) and looks well handicapped on that form. Almaydan also won a poor race last time and is more exposed than the other two. Vinimix De Bessy won a Sandown race easily last season and not seen this. So there must have been an injury. Stable is in good form so plenty to compare him with. If fit should go close. Killaghey Castle looked a decent progressive, horse with potential but has not run for some time. Interesting if a market move comes for him. Oneway ran well last time and is on form a very good price, but comes off a long losing run and has looked temperamental. Sou Wester is out of form, chance if (big IF) comes back. I Hear A Symphony ran behind Good Company but made a bad mistake and lost valuable ground. Better than run suggests. However, does have a habit of hitting one. Jumping is the key with him. Nikola ran only o.k. last time but that was when trainer was in good form, now very much in poor form. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 2:10 Wincanton 25 points @ 3.7/1 Smuglin 2nd (Speed Bonnie Boat non-runner) -25 points 3:10 Wincanton 14 points @ 3.6/1 Dastardly Dick 7 points @ 4.6/1 Dastardly Dick -21 points 3:40 Wincanton 14 points @ 15/2 Moleskin 3rd 17 points @ 9/10 Princeful 2nd -31 points Days Stakes 77 points Days return 0 points Days Deficit 77 points 2:35 Sandown 36 points @ 2.25/1 Arulder (Will Be Done non-runner) -36 points 3:45 Sandown 19 points @ 5.6/1 Sound Accord 13 points @ 8/1 Eric's Charm 2nd 9 points @ 3.9/1 Can't Buy Time 1st Return 44.1 points 41 points 4:20 Sandown 27 points @ 3.8/1 L'Orient Express 1st Return 129.6 points 11 points @ 10/1 Vinimix De Bessy 38 points Days Stakes 115 points, Days Return 173.7 points, Days Profit 58.7 points Total Stakes 1779 points, Total Return 2202.12 points, Total profit 423.12 points 23.8% Profit On Stakes. 17/52 Strike Rate 32.6% (+ 2 each way placed @ 5/1 & 28/1) Average Stake Per Race 34.2 points Individual Winners 25/1, 3/1, 100/30, 10/1, 10/11, 8/1, 3/1, 20/1, 7/1, 43/1, 7/2, 33/1, 10/1, 10/1, 4/1, 3.9/1, 3.8/1 Average Priced Individual Winner (273.7% '/, 17) 16.1% Between 5/1 and 11/2 Average Price Taken Per race (1629.5 '/, 52) 31.34% Between 9/4 and 85/40 Number Of Horses Backed 125 Average Number Of Horses Backed Per Race 2.4 (125 '/, 52) Average Price Taken Per Horse (1629.5 '/, 125) 13.036% 13/2

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Ante-post Arkle Chase 15 points @ 10/1 Imsingingtheblues (15% 11/2) Was impressive at Doncaster in a race that has taken the place of the old Victor Chandler. In a strongly run race which he is likely to get in the Arkle he jumped really well. Has already beaten the Arkle favourite and may well be better suited to 2m than that horse. Proven on good going as well as soft.

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Poor liquidity so i am only having a couple of half bets and will probably put more on tomorrow. 3:25 Kempton 18 points @ 2.95/1 Osaka d'Airy (30% 9/4) 4:00 kempton 20 points @ 9/4 (PP) Pretty Star (34.5% 15/8) 7 points @ 13/2 (PP) Gold Heart (15% 11/2) 5 points @ 10/1 (B365) That's An Idea (10.5% 17/2)

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 3:25 Kempton 12 points @ 11/4 Osaka d'Airy (30 points in all) 4:00 Kempton contd. 15 points @ 9/4 Pretty Star (35 points in all) 5 points @ 6/1 Gold Heart (12 points in all) 2 points @ 18/1 That's An Idea (7 points in all) (Does not seem to be fancied at all on reappearance)

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 2:50 Kempton Denman would walk this at his best but who knows what he is capable of after a long absence and heart problem. Connections won't care if he wins or not and will not want a hard race. Has jumped left on a right-handed track before. Sadly, must be taken on today. Joe Lively won the Feltham here last season but may prefer a left-handed track and a more severe test of stamina. An Accordion would be interesting at the prices if it was not for his injury. Another on the come back trail. Idles badly in front and is difficult to know how much he really has left. Won the William Hill at the Festival last year and might be having a prep run for that. Madison Du Berlais found improvement from somewhere to win the Hennessey last time. Seemed exposed prior to that. Difficult (again) to see him being good enough unless at least three of his rivals under-perform. Niche Market I backed at long odds to win a handicap last time. But this is surely beyond him. Keep an eye on him though, for the four miler at Cheltenham! Alberta's Run's stable is in much better form now than when running poorly on his first two starts this term. Well beaten in the Hennessey and possibly is better in small fields anyway. Put up an improved effort in the King George and looks the one to give Denman most to do. If he acts on the soft going. Has won on soft but very best form on good or good-soft. Connections believe he is better on a sound surface but too early to tell. At 6/1 is worth taking a chance each way. Trabolgan is the third Hennessey winner in the field. Been injured and not enough encouragement in his hurdling reappearance. 3:25 Kempton Keepthedreamalive ran well last time for today's excellent jockey. But is inconsistent and not the best of jumpers normally. Can front run. Lightning Strike does not have much experience to be taking on established horses in a race like this. Although unexposed, his jumping may suffer. Oceanos Des Obeaux has not been in great form, sometimes finds little. Does usually race prominently which may be an advantage here (needs to be). Moon Over Miami has a chance on the form book but I am convinced is better going left-handed. Needs to prove he stays the trip too. Really like Tartak as a horse, very genuine, usually jumps well, consistent. But seems more exposed than most novices. Sure to be bang there challenging, but just too short a price. Can front run or be held up. Osaka d'Airy looked the winner last time before fading badly over 3m in Ireland. Jumped better there than previously this season and this shorter trip should suit. Paul Nicholls has only had him for three runs and improvement could be forthcoming. 4:00 Kempton Double Dizzy gives me the impression of a horse who will only win if he can do it on the bridle. As he did last time for today's pilot. Has I believe had breathing problems. This does look a weak race but his price does not look attractive enough. Strawberry may have broke a blood vessel last time and comes from an out of form stable. Front runner. Chiaro is not badly handicapped on his best form but seems to have lost his enthusiasm. Saw him at Fontwell last time and did not want to know. That's An Idea is having his first start this season / for Jonjo. Was with Charlie Swann. Fell only start at 3m, won on heavy over 2 ½ miles and should stay the trip on breeding. Front runner over shorter distances and has pulled when not in front. It is possible AP can work his magic. There seems little interest in him in the market so far (betting owner), keep an eye out on course. Saved on him. Portland Bill has possibilities but rarely jumps well enough. Pretty Star is the only one without a lot of negatives. Won well last time, blip on penultimate start but a win before that too. Stable in good form too and is the one they all have to beat. Pass Me A Dime ran well enough last time but usually finds the fences getting in the way. Chance if putting in a descent round. Macmar and Hernando Cordobes seem to have lost their way. (Gold Heart non-runner) Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Grand National Ante-Post 7 points @ 37/1 Notre Pere (6% 16/1) 5 poits @ 33/1 Simon (5% 20/1) Notre Pere at 37/1. The 16/1 of my assessment takes in to account he is not a certain runner yet. To my mind connections would be foolish not to run (unless he proves this weekend he is Gold Cup class). Has not been put up that much for winning the Welsh National. Jumps well, stays well without being an out and out stayer. Would prefer it on the soft side but watering means it is rarely firm these days. Might trade out later. Simon has fallen at 2nd valentines the last two years. Basically a good jumper who can hit the odd one. Has been dropped to an attractive mark after a couple of substandard runs early this term. Has usually produced his best in late winter or spring. Not run for some time but Betfair's price is shorter than the bookmakers. Which suggests he is a probable runner / not badly injured. Stays well, acts on good or soft, stays without being a sluggard. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Another ante-post for the National 8 points @ 20/1 Comply Or Die (8% 12/1) Has not been put up much for his win last year, always going well. Only seen twice this term. Pulled up but that was some time ago. Also, did not have the blinkers that transformed him last year. So I do not believe connections were too disappointed. Goes well on good or soft and obviously jumps well. Ginge

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Another ante-post for the National 8 points @ 20/1 Comply Or Die (8% 12/1) Has not been put up much for his win last year, always going well. Only seen twice this term. Pulled up but that was some time ago. Also, did not have the blinkers that transformed him last year. So I do not believe connections were too disappointed. Goes well on good or soft and obviously jumps well. Ginge
Well that was a short term ante-post bet. Comply Or Die has scoped poorly and now heads to Cheltenham instead of Haydock tomorrow so: Lay it back. Lay: 7 points @ 22/1 Comply Or Die
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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 1:55 Haydock 100% (win only) Book Micko De Beauchene 5.25% 18/1 Comply Or Die --NR-- Opera Mundi 10.5% 17/2 Mon Mome 7.25% 13/1 Cornish Sett 5% 20/1 Nenuphar Collonges 12.5% 7/1 Rambling Minister 5.25% 18/1 Character Building 7% 14/1 Eric's Charm 2.5% 40/1 Glasker Mill 5% 20/1 Sherwood's Folly 7.25% 13/1 Beat The Boys 5% 20/1 D'Argent 3.5% 28/1 Nadover 1% 100/1 Coe 18% 9/2 Carnival Town 3.5% 28/1 L'Aventure 1.5% 66/1 Explanation to come

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Micko De Beauchene unseated the last twice, not really his fault. Jumped in to the back of Mon Mome in the Welsh National, then stumbled on landing last time. It is possible that those experiences may effect his jumping in the future. Suited by conditions but stable could be in better form. Comply Or Die non-runner. Opera Mundi has got a good record here and when the mud is flying. Not proven at the trip, did not have his ground in the Scottish National and apparently swallowed tongue on reappearance. However, runs over shorter distances as though this trip should suit. Didn't have the best of runs last time when squeezed at the final fence. Running well although did not look 100% enthusiastic in the early stages. Could be capable of better temperament allowing. Mon Mome got hampered in the Welsh National, then had Micko run in to the back of him. Lost a lot of ground and momentum. Had looked a descent stayer prior to that, winning a good handicap at Cheltenham (first and second clear of the rest). Bit disappointing over hurdles since but is a better chaser. Stable still in good form. May be a couple a bit less exposed to beat him today and is without his usual rider Coleman. Cornish Sett was second in the Welsh National and has won this season. But I am still not convinced about his temperament. Does not win very often, sometimes finishing well through beaten horses and as such could be flattered. Had this not been a win only book would be shorter. Nenuphar Collonges was behind Cornish Sett in the Welsh National but did not jump well that day. Heavy going and a slower pace should not put as much strain on his jumping. Was second favourite that day and probably capable of improvement over extreme distances. Would rather have Choc on board but Hutch is an under rated jock. Rambling Minster had my money on him last time at Cheltenham. Given a bit to do by his jockey (not one of my favourites) but stayed on strongly. Possibly better handicapped horses in the race but at least he is in form. Character Building is only 1 lb better off with Rambling Minster for 2 ¾ lengths for his last chase start. Don't think that is the best thing to judge him on though. Often idles in a finish and does not win the races his ability deserves. Ran over hurdles last time but is a better chaser. Does have cheek pieces today and the benefit of AP, but that has been more than allowed for in the betting. Eric's Charm ran well at Sandown with AP on board but that is his course, probably best going right-handed with a soft lead these days. Not sure whether he is at his very best on very soft and can hit the odd fence when taken on. Glasker Mill finished just in front of Opera Mundi last time. That was at 3m and am less certain about Henrietta's horse staying the trip especially on very soft ground. Sherwood's Folly had a soft lead in the Welsh National and may be taken on by Eric's Charm today. Did weaken badly in the latter stages and had a hard race. Beat The Boys is interesting. Made a bad mistake at Chepstow last time when pulled up. Did look a progressive chaser prior to that. Stable has given signs of a return to form, however, some are still running poorly. D'Argent ran well in Glasker Mill / Opera Mundi's race last time over an inadequate trip. Is fairly well handicapped at his very best form but is getting on in years now. Does go well in the conditions. Nadover was 7th in the National but a long way behind the winner. Very inconsistent and possibly best suited to unconventional fences these days. His third in the x-country would give him a chance here if capable of running to that figure. Coe is not the best of jumpers yet (novice) but hopefully these soft fences will not test that part of his game too much. Idled last time, pricking his ears and could be capable of much better now he is racing over trips that suit him. Runs well on heavy. Now of similar form standard to his hurdle form and is so big should make a far better chaser. Carnival Town won well under similar conditions at Chepstow last time but it was not a great race. Staying on well over 3 ¼ miles. Whether he will run as well in a more competitive race remains to be seen. L'Aventure has seemed rejuvenated by his new trainer this term. Suited by extreme distances in the mud but does have a poor win / run ratio. Another with a far better place record than win. Fell last time and that may also effect his temperament this time. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 2:40 Wincanton 38 points @ 9/4 (SportingBet) Punjabi (38% 13/8) Trainer says he is will need it but I don't think the others are as well suited by the conditions as Henderson's horse. Have backed Ashkazar for the Champion but did not impress me with his temperament on reappearance. Possibly a smaler field will suit him better and stable in good form. Might be taken on in front by Ashleybrook and Helen's Vision. Songe may be better under faster conditions. Takeroc is another who has not looked of the best temperament. though has a chance on his form here with Chomba Womba. Also doubts about the ground with him. Whiteoak may well need this race on her reappearance, with the Cheltenham mares race as the target. Five Dream does not quite look up to this.

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Am very interested in betting against the supposed good things at Ascot today. Not convinced Breedsbreeze or will stay a truly run 3m on heavy. Had hoped Carruthers might have been a little better priced though and reluctant to back one of Twister's when he has not fully recovered from the lurgi. Voy Por stayed 3m well enough at Kempton on good (ish) ground. Not convinced he is at his best on heavy and Kingy's place has had more snow than most. May not be at his peak. Like to be against him today. David Pipe is in much better form now than when Tamarinbleu ran disappointingly in the King George. This is also a front-runner's course. Gwanako is in my 10 to follow and has improvement in him. Whether it will be enough is the question. Have him in two lists of the TTTF. The Sawyer is outclassed but might play his part if taking on Tamarinbleu in his usual front-running role. Might come back. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 That was with Ladbrokes. May be 11 years old but showed improved form to win at Haydock today. Winning witha little more in hand than the result suggests. Second and third all out. Improved form may have something to do with being ridden more prominently. Stays well and effective on heavy or good (won the Agfa Diamond on good a couple of years ago). His jumping has improved too. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 World Hurdle 27 points @ 7/2 (WH) Punchestowns (27% 11/4) 9 points each way @ 12/1 (WH) Fair Along (11% 8/1) As the prices are so wrong (imo) for this race, had to get involved now. Kasbah Bliss did nothing in the race yesterday that he should not have done on form. O.k. he sprinted clear, but the pace of the race favoured him. The second is nowhere near op class and third ran below form. Will be a totally different type of race at Cheltenham. Kasbah Bliss should be favourite because he has the best chance of winning the race. But not by that much. It does look a four horse race. Some people were disappointed with Punchestowns last time but he was beaten 4 lengths giving Big Bucks 8lbs. Had he won by 4 lengths at levels there would not have been any disappointment. Punchestowns also travelled far the better. On heavy going he was out-stayed up the hill / couldn't quicken on it. On (probably) better going may improve again. I'd estimate him having between 4 and 6% worse chance than Kasbah. Big Bucks is yet to prove himself on good ground, probably the softer the better. It is difficult to judge just how good he is as idles in front. But on a sounder surface may struggle for pace at a vital stage. Fair Along was giving Big Bucks 4lb last time and as such comes out not far behind that rival, yet is double the price. One of the big three will not have to be far below form for Fair Along to be placed. Add to that the possibility of being a better horse (at 3m) on sounder than the heavy going that day. Travelled really well and in with every chance when his only mistake put him out of it at the last. Don't usually back something each way ante-post but have made an exception. The place part is used as a saver. The only other one I can see improving is Pettifour, who has not run well since his promising reappearance. But Twister has been out of form all runs since his run at Newbury, when setting too slow a pace. Ginge

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Re: Gingers Jumpers 08 / 09 Cheltenham Gold Cup 11 points @ 14/1 Exotic Dancer (11% 8/1) Impressive in Ireland last time, in much better form now than he was last season. Would have been close between him and Neptunes had Nicholls horse stood up. Not absolutely certain he stays 3m2f. His 2nd a couple of years ago was a very slowly run affair, but is worth taking the chance at the price. As long as it is not very soft or pulls too hard, ED should run well. Kauto is worth taking on at his current price. Never been at his best at Cheltenham and possibly best right-handed. Beating Neptunes by a short head was actually better form than his win the previous year. Neptunes Collonges was 3rd last term in this and has franked the form since at Punchestown and Leopardstown. Did fall on reappearance but is generally a very good jumper. The Gold Cup was the stiffest test of stamina he's had so far and could yet have some improvement to come. Acts on any going and I make him second favourite. Denman ran so poorly on reappearance that it is difficult to see him making enough improvement in three weeks time. There were times at Kempton where he raced with ears flat back, as if something was possibly hurting. Would not be surprised if he did not make it to Prestbury Park. Madison is difficult to quantify. Probably improved a bit last time but it was not a good race. It seems no other horse ran to form. Might take another look at him on the day. Of the others Notre Pere will appeal if it does come up soft or heavy. Already advised 6 points @ 24/1 Neptunes Collonges

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