Wildgarden Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 110 Leicester little rory mac 5-1 bet365 445 kempton baby sham 6-1 most The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipswich45 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Happy Valley Selections 1045 - 4 Dynamic Eagle 3rd 1115 - 12 Universal Go Go WON 8/1 1145 - 7 Virtus Star 3rd 1215 - 4 Methane 5th 1245 - 7 Viva Popcorn 7th 1315 - 4 Whiskey Neat 2nd 1345 - 2 Storm Warnings 10th 1415 - 10 Smiling City WON 8/1 1450 - 11 Momentum Galaxy 11th Plumpton 1300 - 8 Sublime Heights 8/1 Paddy Power 2nd 1500 - 5 March Is On 6/1 Paddy Power 7th Leicester 1340 - 1 Ferrobin 10/3 William Hill 4th 1440 - 2 When Your Ready 4/1 William Hill WON 1510 - 5 Overworkdunderpaid 4/1 Bet365 2nd Kempton 1615 - 6 Woo Woo 11/1 Paddy Power 11th 1645 - 7 Banoffee 13/2 Paddy Power 8th 1920 - 9 Nicks Not Wonder 12/1 Paddy Power WON 28/1!!!!! 2020 - 8 Capricorn Prince 15/2 Paddy Power 11th Naas 1350 - 11 Chalky White 11/2 Bet365 3rd 1520 - 10 Castle Town House 8/1 Bet365 2nd Edited January 13, 2021 by ipswich45 results being added LEE-GRAYS, CarlosUK, The Equaliser and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alancraik Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 todays top rated selections LEICESTER 13:10 Little Rory Mac 5/1 e/w 3 Places LEICESTER 14:40 Fil Dariane 11/2 e/w 3 Places (next best # 1) LEICESTER 15:40 Fontaine Collonges 10/11 win (next best #1) Top The Equaliser and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) More than a few outsiders ?? 13.00 plumpton love you to the moon 18/1 4places 13.30 plumpton delta rose 20/1 4places 14.00 plumpton Floy joy 20/1 15.30 plumpton fetherd flyer 16/1 4places 1.10 Leicester tip top cat 12/1 2.40 Leicester san seb 9/1 placed 2nd 3.10 Leicester bit my tongue 35/1 6places 12.50 nass new money 14/1 placed 2nd 13.50 nass yaha fizz 16/1 14.20 nass ragner lodbrok 22/1 4places 14.50 nass direct fire 16/1 4places 15.20 nass dedanann 22/1 5places 16.15 kempton puffin island 12/1 16.45 kempton zoolander 12/1 17.15 kempton mojambo 30/1 4places NR will do anniemation 14/1 19.20 kempton thanielle 10/1 19.50 kempton echo beach 14/1placed 2nd 20.20 kempton flat to the max 7/1 12.05 chantily bourdain 7/1 12.50 chantily millfield 14/1 13.25 chantily atalante 20/1 winner 14.00 chantily thunderdome 33/1 15.10 chantily ghayadh 14/1 all bets 50p e/w bet365 ??? Edited January 13, 2021 by LEE-GRAYS The Equaliser and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger2256 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Jan +6 1pt level stakes win only 13.30 Plu Barrakhov 25/1 Lost 15.30 Plu En Coeur 20/1 Lost 20.20 Kem Zarafshan 8/1 Won 12/1 All prices as of now b365 +10 Jan +16 Edited January 13, 2021 by roger2256 Result The Equaliser and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Today's young handicapper. LEICESTER 2.40 FIL D'ARIANE 7/1 The Equaliser and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 1.00 Plum Here Comes Johnny have had £4 win at 3.9 = £11.37 profit if it wins. Looks like the right distance and the horse has proved itself/ Tallow For Coal has the ratings but is very short a price for its experience thus far 1.30 Plu Natutural History should win this and is in good hands for jumps training with Gary Moore. However, I'm not taking 4/6 about it 2.00 Plu Star Academy looks good. It hasn't won a race yet and was 20/1 last time when finishing a good 3rd. Venetia keeps letting me down of late so I'll pass. 1.40 Leic All closely matched on ratings. Fascinating race. But fascination doesn't pay the bills so I'll pass on that one too 2.10 Leic. Zambella I have manged to get evens for £10 about this horse. Looks to be consistent and has a lot of promise so I'll go for this one. My nap of the day =========================================================================================================== I think I've now found my calling with regards to horse racing selections. Stick to the non-handicap races and selections with proven experience where the day's racing conditions most suit. This is still no cake-walk as the bookies shorten up prices on these selections/races so as to try and make a profit come what may. Anyway, two selections and two winners today so I'll sit on my laurels for the rest of the day. £14.00 outlay and £35.37 return hence a £21.37 profit for the day. This means a new betting balance of £555.46 (Bank £500). Looks like some more opportunities tomorrow Edited January 13, 2021 by The Equaliser Results Update Wildgarden, MCLARKE and LEE-GRAYS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, LEE-GRAYS said: More than a few outsiders ?? 13.00 plumpton love you to the moon 18/1 4places 13.30 plumpton delta rose 20/1 4places 14.00 plumpton Floy joy 20/1 15.30 plumpton fetherd flyer 16/1 4places 1.10 Leicester tip top cat 12/1 2.40 Leicester san seb 9/1 3.10 Leicester bit my tongue 35/1 6places 12.50 nass new money 14/1 13.50 nass yaha fizz 16/1 14.20 nass ragner lodbrok 22/1 4places 14.50 nass direct fire 16/1 4places 15.20 nass dedanann 22/1 5places 16.15 kempton puffin island 12/1 16.45 kempton zoolander 12/1 17.15 kempton mojambo 30/1 4places 19.20 kempton thanielle 10/1 19.50 kempton echo beach 14/1 20.20 kempton flat to the max 7/1 12.05 chantily bourdain 7/1 12.50 chantily millfield 14/1 13.25 chantily atalante 20/1 14.00 chantily thunderdome 33/1 15.10 chantily ghayadh 14/1 all bets 50p e/w bet365 ??? Wow! looks as though you eat sleep and drink horse racing. Good luck LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, The Equaliser said: Wow! looks as though you eat sleep and drink horse racing. Good luck yes at moment not much to do took early retirement like to find a few outsiders lol The Equaliser and Wildgarden 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathtime For Rupert Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 All prices Bet365: 2.00 Plumpton - 1pt e/w Floy Joy @ 20/1 3.30 Plumpton - 1pt e/w En Couer @ 25/1 2.40 Leicester - 1pt e/w Red Mix @ 33/1 4.00 Plumpton - 1pt e/w Istorius @ 9/1 The Equaliser and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgarden Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Wildgarden said: 110 Leicester little rory mac 5-1 bet365 2nd 445 kempton baby sham 6-1 most 3rd Both placed for Ew backers nothing more. Edited January 13, 2021 by Wildgarden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, LEE-GRAYS said: yes at moment not much to do took early retirement like to find a few outsiders lol I think that the problem with systematically backing outsiders is running a betting bank that sees one through the inevitable long losing runs. For what it's worth I feel that you should exclude all the non-handicap races. However, do as you feel you should and the very best of luck to you LEE-GRAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 36 minutes ago, The Equaliser said: I think that the problem with systematically backing outsiders is running a betting bank that sees one through the inevitable long losing runs. For what it's worth I feel that you should exclude all the non-handicap races. However, do as you feel you should and the very best of luck to you I agree if doing a few it is hard but this week been getting one winner each day showing small profit. Need a winner at kempton tonight for a profit lucky I had that 20/1 earlier. When I do just one a day like on the £20 challenge I am over a £1000 up since October but again you get a long run of losers then a couple of bigguns it’s hard to know what to do I have long runs of losers with favs some times too ??? The Equaliser, MCLARKE and Wildgarden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 4 hours ago, The Equaliser said: 1.00 Plum Here Comes Johnny have had £4 win at 3.9 = £11.37 profit if it wins. Looks like the right distance and the horse has proved itself/ Tallow For Coal has the ratings but is very short a price for its experience thus far 1.30 Plu Natutural History should win this and is in good hands for jumps training with Gary Moore. However, I'm not taking 4/6 about it 2.00 Plu Star Academy looks good. It hasn't won a race yet and was 20/1 last time when finishing a good 3rd. Venetia keeps letting me down of late so I'll pass. 1.40 Leic All closely matched on ratings. Fascinating race. But fascination doesn't pay the bills so I'll pass on that one too 2.10 Leic. Zambella I have manged to get evens for £10 about this horse. Looks to be consistent and has a lot of promise so I'll go for this one. My nap of the day =========================================================================================================== I think I've now found my calling with regards to horse racing selections. Stick to the non-handicap races and selections with proven experience where the day's racing conditions most suit. This is still no cake-walk as the bookies shorten up prices on these selections/races so as to try and make a profit come what may. Anyway, two selections and two winners today so I'll sit on my laurels for the rest of the day. £14.00 outlay and £35.37 return hence a £21.37 profit for the day. This means a new betting balance of £555.46 (Bank £500). Looks like some more opportunities tomorrow BBBC, Wildgarden and Villa Chris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgarden Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 Another pick 820 kempton ivaquestion 6-1 bet 365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 59 minutes ago, The Equaliser said: I think you’ll make a profit doing this, although the odds are much skinnier. I find there’s less work to do and some races a horse will jump straight off the card at you . If I fail to find a bet on Saturday in the handicap races with less than 10 runners then I’ll look at the higher grade races for a selection and just lump my Saturday allowance on it. McFabulous was a horse that jumped off the page at me on Saturday and it won. Never backed it because of odds, but a win is a win, so see how it goes from Saturday. The Equaliser and MCLARKE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipswich45 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 8:15 PM, ipswich45 said: Happy Valley Selections 1045 - 4 Dynamic Eagle 3rd 1115 - 12 Universal Go Go WON 8/1 1145 - 7 Virtus Star 3rd 1215 - 4 Methane 5th 1245 - 7 Viva Popcorn 7th 1315 - 4 Whiskey Neat 2nd 1345 - 2 Storm Warnings 10th 1415 - 10 Smiling City WON 8/1 1450 - 11 Momentum Galaxy 11th Plumpton 1300 - 8 Sublime Heights 8/1 Paddy Power 2nd 1500 - 5 March Is On 6/1 Paddy Power 7th Leicester 1340 - 1 Ferrobin 10/3 William Hill 4th 1440 - 2 When Your Ready 4/1 William Hill WON 1510 - 5 Overworkdunderpaid 4/1 Bet365 2nd Kempton 1615 - 6 Woo Woo 11/1 Paddy Power 11th 1645 - 7 Banoffee 13/2 Paddy Power 8th 1920 - 9 Nicks Not Wonder 12/1 Paddy Power WON 28/1!!!!! 2020 - 8 Capricorn Prince 15/2 Paddy Power 11th Naas 1350 - 11 Chalky White 11/2 Bet365 3rd 1520 - 10 Castle Town House 8/1 Bet365 2nd Dont it make you sick sometimes lol 4/1 Nap finished 2nd 12/1 Fun selection goes and wins at 28/1 couple of decent 8/1s at Happy Valley aswell and fairly decent jumping afternoon again for fun picks The Equaliser and Wildgarden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE-GRAYS Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 hours ago, LEE-GRAYS said: More than a few outsiders ?? 13.00 plumpton love you to the moon 18/1 4places 13.30 plumpton delta rose 20/1 4places 14.00 plumpton Floy joy 20/1 15.30 plumpton fetherd flyer 16/1 4places 1.10 Leicester tip top cat 12/1 2.40 Leicester san seb 9/1 placed 2nd 3.10 Leicester bit my tongue 35/1 6places 12.50 nass new money 14/1 placed 2nd 13.50 nass yaha fizz 16/1 14.20 nass ragner lodbrok 22/1 4places 14.50 nass direct fire 16/1 4places 15.20 nass dedanann 22/1 5places 16.15 kempton puffin island 12/1 16.45 kempton zoolander 12/1 17.15 kempton mojambo 30/1 4places NR will do anniemation 14/1 19.20 kempton thanielle 10/1 19.50 kempton echo beach 14/1placed 2nd 20.20 kempton flat to the max 7/1 12.05 chantily bourdain 7/1 12.50 chantily millfield 14/1 13.25 chantily atalante 20/1 winner 14.00 chantily thunderdome 33/1 15.10 chantily ghayadh 14/1 all bets 50p e/w bet365 ??? another day with only one winner if only i could get 2 out £23 in £19.35 Wildgarden and The Equaliser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgarden Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Wildgarden said: Another pick 820 kempton ivaquestion 6-1 bet 365 2nd by half a length ;-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Villa Chris said: I think you’ll make a profit doing this, although the odds are much skinnier. I find there’s less work to do and some races a horse will jump straight off the card at you . If I fail to find a bet on Saturday in the handicap races with less than 10 runners then I’ll look at the higher grade races for a selection and just lump my Saturday allowance on it. McFabulous was a horse that jumped off the page at me on Saturday and it won. Never backed it because of odds, but a win is a win, so see how it goes from Saturday. You are spot on when you say it takes less time to find selection(s) in the non handicap races. I find with handicap racing that there always seems to be two to three live contenders and of course one is always has the nagging and actual doubt, when they win, of a so called no-hoper that comes and wins. I think that one has to possess great skill to win consistently at handicap racing. I have tried it for over a year and am now quite happy to look at fewer races where narrowing down betting oportunites seems far easier. This is despite the skinny odds. If I can make a profit at this I will be very pleased. Many thanks for your thoughts. MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, The Equaliser said: You are spot on when you say it takes less time to find selection(s) in the non handicap races. I find with handicap racing that there always seems to be two to three live contenders and of course one is always has the nagging and actual doubt, when they win, of a so called no-hoper that comes and wins. I think that one has to possess great skill to win consistently at handicap racing. I have tried it for over a year and am now quite happy to look at fewer races where narrowing down betting oportunites seems far easier. This is despite the skinny odds. If I can make a profit at this I will be very pleased. Many thanks for your thoughts. You’ll always have horses hidden away in handicap races that are well handicapped and you don’t even know it. Some trainers will get their horse well handicapped for a certain race by running it wrong distance, going it doesn’t like etc etc. Look at those Irish horses that have won the big handicap races at Cheltenham this season. Gordon Elliot is brilliant in handicap races at the Cheltenham festival and always gets his horses to peak for those races by getting them well handicapped in Ireland. At least with graded races you know what you’re getting usually. I prefer working out handicaps, although I’m not very good at it. It’s a skill as you say. I like watching the big graded races. Narrowing down is the key to success. Find your preferred field and away you go. You can get value in graded races but you just don’t win as much. The Equaliser and MCLARKE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Villa Chris said: You’ll always have horses hidden away in handicap races that are well handicapped and you don’t even know it. Some trainers will get their horse well handicapped for a certain race by running it wrong distance, going it doesn’t like etc etc. Look at those Irish horses that have won the big handicap races at Cheltenham this season. Gordon Elliot is brilliant in handicap races at the Cheltenham festival and always gets his horses to peak for those races by getting them well handicapped in Ireland. At least with graded races you know what you’re getting usually. I prefer working out handicaps, although I’m not very good at it. It’s a skill as you say. I like watching the big graded races. Narrowing down is the key to success. Find your preferred field and away you go. You can get value in graded races but you just don’t win as much. I realise that you can get better odds and returns with handicap racing, however, it occurs to me that you have to cope with bigger losing runs than the graded races. This being so, doesn't this negate the bigger returns one gets trying to find value bets in handicaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 hours ago, The Equaliser said: I realise that you can get better odds and returns with handicap racing, however, it occurs to me that you have to cope with bigger losing runs than the graded races. This being so, doesn't this negate the bigger returns one gets trying to find value bets in handicaps? I’d probably say so yes. Then you’ve got the moral issue which can play a big part in betting. The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Villa Chris said: I’d probably say so yes. Then you’ve got the moral issue which can play a big part in betting. Haha, I didn't think that the bookies were highly moral. Not sure what you mean though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 59 minutes ago, The Equaliser said: Haha, I didn't think that the bookies were highly moral. Not sure what you mean though? Meant to be Morale ? Nowt worse than those long losing runs in handicap races. Get a few winners under your belt and it keeps spirits high. MCLARKE and The Equaliser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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