edtkh Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 With the highlight of the tennis calendar barely a week away, thought it's high time we got a thread going again for the year's third Grand Slam. While the seeds won't be announced till Wednesday 15th June and the draws are still unavailable as yet, here's a quick preview with more to follow when the draws are out. ;) Looking at the Men's Singles, this year's tournament is as straightforward as last year's in terms of picking a winner as Roger Federer (1.75 @ Betfair) seems nailed-on to defend his title. The draw permitting, Andy Roddick (7 @ Betfair/2.54 @ Betfair for 'Winner w/o Federer' market) looks to be establishing himself as a firm contender to book a date with Federer in the July 3rd final, given the horrendous form the other frontrunners are in. Among the other frontrunners, I honestly can't see Lleyton Hewitt (21 @ Betfair), Tim Henman (32 @ Betfair), Rafael Nadal (28 @ Betfair) mounting a serious bid for the title as they are still struggling for match fitness and form with the tournament due to start in a week. Truth be told, I'll hardly be surprised if both Henman and Nadal get the boot from the competition before the QF as Henman simply doesn't seem to have the bottle to grind out matches while Nadal's all-action, scrambling game simply isn't cut out for grass as his defeat by Waske at Halle would testify. Looking further afield, Safin, Ancic and Karlovic (all 32 @ Betfair) could prove excellent back-and-lay propositions if they get a favourable draw. I wouldn't be too surprised either should Grosjean (100 @ Betfair) and Malisse (300 @ Betfair) get a good run in the tournament as well since both have proved themselves to be quality players on grass with good combination of big serves and quality returns when they're on song and the conditions are right. In addition, both can boast of having made at least a SF appearance at Wimbledon. In the Women's draw, it's a toss between Serena Williams (5.5 @ Betfair) and Maria Sharapova (4.1 @ Betfair) for the title IMO. I can't see Henin-Hardenne (4.4 @ Betfair) threatening those 2 too much as her game wouldn't really adapt to a quick surface like grass as well as she does on the slower hardcourts and clay. Anything beyond those 3 would really be a lottery as any regular followers of the WTA tour would know most of the others have a seriously suspect mental strength and simply do not - in most instances -have what it takes to dig deep when the chips are down. Personally, my favourite for the tournament has got to be Serena Williams and I feel the 5.50 available for her is just way too big even though her match fitness is questionable considering she hasn't played a competitive match since the Rome Italian Masters. However, on the back of her pedigree on grass - she made the last 3 Wimbledon finals, winning in 2002 and 2003 - and how she has a knack of finding form just at the right time(as she did at this year's Australian Open when she saved matchpoints against Sharapova in the semis and went on to beat Davenport in the final) for the big tournaments, I feel she's still a very decent shot for she's just someone you can never write off in any Grand Slam. For interest's sake, Alicia Molik (46 @ Betfair) and Jelena Jankovic (67 @ William Hill) could well prove decent back-and-lay propositions - assuming they can hold out mentally - as they have both got big serves which would no doubt help their game on grass. More to follow when the draws are out and the tournament gets underway... ;) Cheers & Good Luck! :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyreeq Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Hewitt's Match fitness is a little worry - but I can see him being seeded no.2, with Roddick no.4 (Nadal 3) based on the ATP rankings, which means that both Roddick and Hewitt will be in the opposite half to Federer. This makes them both great bets in the w.out Federer market, with Hewitt at 8.00 a great offer IMO. If he is fit, with his H2H vs. Roddick at 6-1 I can see him winning that semi-final should they both get there -although point to note is that the only time they met on Grass, at Queen's last year, was Roddick's only win. Nevertheless, a big punt on Roddick and a small cover on Hewitt should guarantee some profit, if the draw is indeed as I expect... On that last point though, Wimbledon have been known for not sticking exactly to the rankings when seeding their players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampster Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Roddick looks a decent without Federer bet. Ancic E/W too if his odds are decent. oh, and LAY Henman with your life ! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Backed Nadal the other week each way at 25/1 before he lost first round! I'll let him off after he won for me in Paris. Interesting to see how the golden one gets on at Wimbledon. Agree with Henman, lay lay lay!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Latest from BBC seems to suggest Andre Agassi has withdrawn from Wimbledon, citing 'injury' as the reason... :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridle Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Wimbledon 2005 Men's Event (posted 10th June 2006, prices are subject to change!): Ivo Karlovic Thomas Johansson Ivan Ljubicic Richard Gasquet Robin Söderling 150/1 2/10 pts at 5dimes 325 0.5/10 pts at 5dimes 126 1/10 pts at 5dimes 120-140/1 0.5/10 pts at betfair.com 200/1 1/10 pts at 5dimes If he serves well, he is tough to beat. Exactly the game needed to have success on grass. Totally missed out on clay but seems to be top in form to achieve big things in Wimbledon. Trading @40/1 on Betfair. My opinion changed After beating Henman, the swedish player looks like a good outsider for Wimbledon. Small stakes though. Had an excellent start this year by reaching several finals where he almost always met Federer - and lost. Despite that he has shown that hard court is a surface he is good on and so I think his game will also suit the grass court. Didn't expect him to do so well on grass, but showed some decent perfomances at Queens. Worth a small bet. Great performance vs Federer this week when he lost narrowly. Should be much shorter in my eyes, with his big serve and agressive strokes. Won some tourn. on hard court already. Tommy Haas Radek Stepanek Xavier Malisse Karol Beck 230/1+ 0.5/10 pts at betfair.com @175/1 0.5/10 pts at 5dimes @225/1 0.5/10 pts at 5dimes @200/1 0.5/10 pts at 5dimes Germany's most talented player who never managed to do really good at big events, a pity that is. Has a game for this surface and is doing good in Halle at the moment. Has shown some form this year, looks to do well on grass. A long shot. Doesn't he look like the brother of T Haas? And he also acts like him on court. But also a powerful player that has played decently in Queens. At those odds I can't resist. Saw him against Roddick. Impressive play, looks good on grass. May upset a lot of people in Wimbledon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 15, 2005 Author Share Posted June 15, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) So the draws are out and as expected, the path is cleared for a Roddick-Federer rematch in the final. Also, Alicia Molik has withdrawn from Wimbledon(http://eastbourne.lta.org.uk/News/050615Molik.htm). Seeds for the Gentlemen's Singles: 1. FEDERER, Roger (SUI) 2. RODDICK, Andy (USA) 3. HEWITT, Lleyton (AUS) 4. NADAL, Rafael (ESP) 5. SAFIN, Marat (RUS) 6. HENMAN, Tim (GBR) 7. CANAS, Guillermo (ARG) 8. DAVYDENKO, Nikolay (RUS) 9. GROSJEAN, Sebastien (FRA) 10. ANCIC, Mario (CRO) 11. JOHANSSON, Joachim (SWE) 12. JOHANSSON, Thomas (SWE) 13. ROBREDO, Tommy (ESP) 14. STEPANEK, Radek (CZE) 15. CORIA, Guillermo (ARG) 16. PUERTA, Mariano (ARG) 17. FERRER, David (ESP) 18. NALBANDIAN, David (ARG) 19. HAAS, Tommy (GER) 20. LJUBICIC, Ivan (CRO) 21. GONZALEZ, Fernando (CHI) 22. HRBATY, Dominik (SVK) 23. FERRERO, Juan Carlos (ESP) 24. DENT, Taylor (USA) 25. KIEFER, Nicolas (GER) 26. LOPEZ, Feliciano (ESP) 27. GASQUET, Richard (FRA) 28. NOVAK, Jiri (CZE) 29. MASSU, Nicolas (CHI) 30. SODERLING, Robin (SWE) 31. YOUZHNY, Mikhail (RUS) 32. VOLANDRI, Filippo (ITA) Seeds for the Ladies' Singles: 1. DAVENPORT Miss Lindsay (USA) 2. SHARAPOVA Miss Maria (RUS) 3. MAURESMO Miss Amelie (FRA) 4. WILLIAMS Miss Serena (USA) 5. KUZNETSOVA Miss Svetlana (RUS) 6. DEMENTIEVA Miss Elena (RUS) 7. HENIN-HARDENNE Mrs Justine (BEL) 8. PETROVA Miss Nadia (RUS) 9. MYSKINA Miss Anastasia (RUS) 10. SCHNYDER Miss Patty (SUI) 11. ZVONAREVA Miss Vera (RUS) 12. PIERCE Miss Mary (FRA) 13. LIKHOVTSEVA Miss Elena (RUS) 14. WILLIAMS Miss Venus (USA) 15. CLIJSTERS Miss Kim (BEL) 16. DECHY Miss Nathalie (FRA) 17. JANKOVIC Miss Jelena (SCG) 18. GOLOVIN Miss Tatiana (FRA) 19. IVANOVIC Miss Ana (SCG) 20. HANTUCHOVA Miss Daniela (SVK) 21. SCHIAVONE Miss Francesca (ITA) 22. FARINA ELIA Mrs Silvia (ITA) 23. SUGIYAMA Miss Ai (JPN) 24. ASAGOE Miss Shinobu (JPN) 25. SPREM Miss Karolina (CRO) 26. PENNETTA Miss Flavia (ITA) 27. VAIDISOVA Miss Nicole (CZE) 28. FRAZIER Miss Amy (USA) 29. BARTOLI Miss Marion (FRA) 30. SAFINA Miss Dinara (RUS) 31. MEDINA GARRIGUES Miss Anabel (ESP) 32. RAZZANO Miss Virginie (FRA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) BTW, as the qualification is nearing the end (today - and tomorrow is the final day), it might be worth to keep an eye on the results. I've been following it as it's possible to bet on the matches down here, but the main point is the Q winners will have had about five very competitive matches under their belt. The link for today's schedule http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule19.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW1970 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) First round draw done. Thought I'd get in first with my fancies for round one. No odds out yet, but these won't be 1/7 shots. Based a lot on opposing clay courters. Could be a couple of good prices in here. Mayer v Ventura J Johansson v Montanes Rusedski v Martin Zib v Acasuso Burgsmuller v Puerta O Rochus v Monfils Mirnyi v Schuettler Arthurs v Volandri Tursunov v Almagro Slightly less confident, but still interested, in these: Sherwood v Mello Behrend v Coria Malisse v Marray Can't go into the reasons for them all, but serious tennis punters should be able to see the reasoning in these tips. For instance, Ventura stinks on grass. As does Acasuso. As does Montanes. As does Martin. Actually, a couple of them might be 1/7. They should be. Interesting to see the odds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) I think Maria Sharapova is worth laying :D But to be serious, I can't see past her or S Williams for the title. I think that Davenport is past her best, and a small punt on the other 2 is worthwhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 17, 2005 Author Share Posted June 17, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) There're a couple of 'special bets' at Ladbrokes which I think are worth a punt or two. My stakes here are in addition to the bank I'd be setting aside for the match/set bettings when the tourny gets underway in case anyone's wondering... ;) 10pts Rusedski to be knocked out in the 2nd Round (1.50 @ Ladbrokes) Rusedski will play Martin in the first round and the winner of that match will then play the winner of Montanes/J Johansson. Rusedski should have little trouble beating Martin as the Spaniard isn't of much use in Grand Slams, especially Wimbledon where he hardly ever gets past the first round. The same could perhaps be said of Montanes and that should well set up the Johansson-Rusedski 2nd Round clash which I'd expect the Swede to prevail. 10pts Henman to be knocked out in the 4th Round (5.00 @ Ladbrokes) The draw is pretty favourable to Henman in the early rounds and I can't see too much troubling him(even by his own inconsistent standards) until the 4th Round at the earliest when he could expect to play Grosjean if all goes to plan. Even though Henman leads Grosjean 4-3 on h2h, Grosjean leads Henman 2-1 on grass and the Frenchman has won the last 2 meetings on grass - incidentally, both meetings took place in 2003 at Queen's and Wimbledon - and clearly looks the firm favourite for a clash with Roddick in the QF. Grosjean is a very decent player on grass and I'm sure he'll be keen to prove his two SF appearances in 2003 and 2004 were no fluke - Henman will have enough problems coping with Grosjean at his best; on the basis of what I've seen of him at Queen's, I wouldn't rate his chances at all. 20pts double on Federer to win 1st Quarter-Roddick to win 4th Quarter (1.85 @ Ladbrokes) This is basically a bet on both Federer and Roddick to make the semis. Quite simply, I don't see anything standing in the way of Federer and perhaps, only Hewitt would pose a sufficient thread to thwart Roddick's bid(aside from Federer, Hewitt's the only one who has got a game to counter Roddick's big-serving game). With the draw such that Hewitt belongs to Federer's half and he wouldn't meet Federer until the semis anyway, it's pretty much fair to say a Federer-Roddick double on them to win their respective quarters looks very much on the cards. 20pts Federer to win Men's Singles-S Williams to win Women's Singles (7.65 @ Ladbrokes) Federer to defend his title is pretty much a nailed-on proposition and needs no further elaboration. The women's draw, however, has thrown up a pretty surprising scenario with what I feel are the three favourites for the title together in the same half. While I think that's great in terms of boosting Serena Williams' odds, I think it's a tragedy that we need to put up with the top half which is a farce, really. Having said that, I still remain convinced she has what it takes to beat both Henin-Hardenne and Sharapova in back-to-back matches in the quarters and semis and the price available certainly looks massive for someone who has made the last 3 Wimbledon finals. If there was a certainty for Wimbledon(besides Federer defending his crown :lol ), it'd be the winner for the women's crown coming from the bottom half of the draw. Cheers & Good Luck! :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Not going to bet all of these, and will probably mix some up in multiples, but just soime initial 1st round thoughts. G Rusedski to beat A Martin @ 1.20 (StanJames) Rusedski infinitely better grass court player than Martin. T Zib to beat J Acasuso @ 1.33 (bet365) Zib won't set the wrold alight, but Acasuso is 0-6 on grass and clearly hates the surface. A Murray to beat G Bastl @ 1.57 (StanJames) Assuming Murray is back to fitness. How Bastl beat Sampras at Wimbledon I will never know - even a 1% Sampras should have had too much for him on this surface. K Beck to beat M Philippoussis @ 2.1 (various) Beck is a match for most on grass. Philippoussis may have won a few matches but as soon as he came up against a player with a bit of grasscourt ability he lost. Also seen a few quotes about his fitness from him (shoulder I think) which doesn't look good for Scud. Still have loads of matches to look through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe mavis Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Have placed my Wimbeldon bets and they are as follows>>> Safin to win the mens singles odds of 29/1 small bet on Philloposis at 149/1 Both bets are with Betfair. I will be looking to lay Safin at 10's in the qauters where he is due to play Hewitt, Phillopousis is a cover bet as he is due to meet Safin in the second round. Safin cold go all the way in my opinion or he could get beat real early hence the cover bet. Good luck to all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) edtkh. Good to see some patriotic punting there, great confidence in UK's top 2 players! I suppose its more than justified!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Got 3 interests to win their respective titles: Gasquet at 41 with Ladbrokes Mauresmo at 26 with centrebet Davenport at 13 with Ladbrokes All each way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) edtkh. Good to see some patriotic punting there, great confidence in UK's top 2 players! I suppose its more than justified!!! :rollin Sure I have faith in the Brits. Right, I'll chip in with my thoughts on tomorrow's action once the Order of Play is released... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Mondays Order of Play http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Biscuit Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) I go with NW1970's theory of backing against the clay-courters - it is just such a different game on grass. Step forward Mr Nadal. I'll be backing against him every round - starting with the first & a match against V Spadea who reached the 4th rnd last year. He also won their only meeting so far earlier this year (3 in the 3rd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) A few more thoughts, maybe not all bets. Feedback on all my selections appreciated. L Horna to beat K Kucera @ 2.25 (Coral) Purely on the fact that Kucera is just on the way back from a long injury break. S Sargsian to beat N Massu @ 2.78 (betfair) Don't really see why Sargsian is so big to beat Massu on this surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) So here we go again, with Day 1 action at Wimbledon set to unfold shortly. Won't be elaborating too much on some of the matches in the early rounds as they look pretty self-explanatory and obvious to most who know something about tennis. ;) 10pts Jankovic-Rusedski-Ferrero (2.20 @ Ladbrokes) :D Jankovic is massive to beat Chaktevadze. Chakvetadze is making her Wimbledon debut and even though she did do pretty well at Roland Garros by the standards of most debutants, I can't see her beating a much-improved Jankovic. Jankovic showed what a player she could be on grass with her run at Birmingham a fortnight ago and this is clearly one of the better value bets of the day. I must stress I'm no fan of Rusedski and I couldn't be more objective assessing this one - Martin has been booted in the 1st Round at Wimbledon in 3 of his last 4 attempts and that clearly isn't very good pedigree against the British veteran who hasn't lost a 1st Round match since 2000. Clearly, Martin simply hasn't got a game on grass and Rusedski should just walk this one. Delgado hasn't really caught my eye in the tournaments leading up to Wimbledon - in fact, no Brit has besides Murray - and having seen Ferrero's performances at Halle, I feel the Spaniard's experience will tell at this level and he should beat Delgado at a canter. 15pts Monfils-Mayer-Safin (2.32 @ Ladbrokes) :D Mayer to beat Ventura is self-explanatory - for anyone who isn't familiar with the respective grasscourt pedigree of both players, you could well liken this to Coria playing J Johansson on clay. :lol I know Safin claims he hates this stuff and he wouldn't fancy his chances here, but I'm sure his surprise run to the final at Halle a week ago will do his confidence no harm at all. More pertinent, however, is the fact I can't see how Srichaphan is going to trouble Safin one bit given the horrendous form he's in - 'luminaries' like Kim and Hilton could both boast of having broken the Thai at least twice in a single set over the last fortnight so I just don't see how Safin isn't going to sweep him off court. I'm not sure if the sportsbooks know what they're doing when they priced up the Monfils-Okun clash. It's pure madness to even imagine Monfils being priced anywhere near what's widely available against Okun who isn't exactly the greatest player on grass considering his greatest achievement at Wimbledon is - surprise, surprise - a first round exit in 2002. All that against last year's Wimbledon Junior's champion making his debut in the men's singles - well, although being junior champs may not necessarily mean much when they graduate to the men's game, I'd like to think this is one of those exceptions and I know better who to put my money on. :tongue2 15pts Sprem-Berdych (2.98 @ Ladbrokes) :( Sprem has got to be one of the value bets - if not the value bet - of the day for me. IMO, this is clearly one of those bets where the books aren't familiar with the pedigree of certain players on a particular surface. Sprem made the QF last year on the back of an amazing run which clearly announced her arrival as one to watch on grass - it's no surprise Sprem didn't make much of an impact on slower surfaces like clay as her all-action power-oriented style suits grass like no other surface. Quite simply, I can see her holding serve - she's one of the handful on the WTA whose game is critical and dependent on her holding serves - as Tanasugarn doesn't have a game to counter big servers and players whose movement are as agile and quick as Sprem. I'm not going to read too much into the stats for this one simply because circumstances don't warrant them - Tansasugarn may have a career W-L 46-26 grasscourt record and made 6 4th Round appearances at Wimbledon over the last 7 years, but that doesn't mean much against someone who's only embarking on her third attempt at Wimbledon with a 2nd Round and QF appearance on her last 2 visits. Similarly, I like what I've seen from Berdych over the last week at Nottingham even though his results haven't been that impressive - I thought his defeat by T Johansson via 2 tiebreaks in Nottingham was a bit harsh on him. Having said that, so long as Berdych can serve the way he's been serving in Nottingham, I'd have to fancy him to beat the Frenchman who hasn't got much in his armour. If push comes to shove, this could well prove to be a battle of attrition between two big servers, but even then, I could see this being decided by the quality of returns which obviously would hand the edge to Berdych. 10pts Saulnier to beat Hrbaty (2.26 @ Betfair) :( This is a 50-50 match at worst and Saulnier just looks way too big IMO. The h2h between the pair stand at 1-1 as well, with Saulnier winning the last encounter in straight sets last year on indoor carpet. On closer scrutiny, however, there are obviously some indications to suggest Saulnier could even - justifiably - start this as favourite. Hrbaty has a woeful career 4-13 W-L grasscourt record while Saulnier could boast of a more respectable 10-11 record. I'm going more with value than anything, not to mention Hrbaty's horrendous pedigree on this surface. Haven't really finished looking at all the matches, but the abovementioned ones are the main picks for Day 1 for me - will stick more up should I find any other bets worthy of a shot. Having said that, there're a couple of other bets that might be worth a shot for those who crave value but do not expect any returns realistically : Baghdatis(to beat Youzhny), Draper(to beat Davydenko), Morrison(to beat Bjorkman). Cheers & Good Luck! :ok Starting Bank : 100.00pts Current Bank : 100.00pts Profit/Loss : 0.00pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) A few more thoughts, maybe not all bets. Feedback on all my selections appreciated. L Horna to beat K Kucera @ 2.25 (Coral) Purely on the fact that Kucera is just on the way back from a long injury break. S Sargsian to beat N Massu @ 2.78 (betfair) Don't really see why Sargsian is so big to beat Massu on this surface. Haven't looked at Horna-Kucera in detail, but Sargsian is definitely one you ought to keep clear of. The Armenian looks set to be riding into the sunset and he looks set to go down the road of El Aynaoui(who's been losing to all and sundry and hasn't made any headway in tennis since losing to Roddick in the 2003 Australian Open) - I'm not saying for a moment Massu is a top player on this surface, but what really sways this one for me is the fact Sargsian can't seem to win a match on any surface at the moment. In fact, I'll have a closer look on matchday(I don't suppose this match is pencilled in for Day 1 as I haven't seen it in the order of play) and Massu could even prove value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Looking at laying Kim Clijsters outright at 6.8. She just won the Eastbourne tournamnet but has come back from knee injuries and according to the BBC has been suffering back problems to some degree during the Eastbourne tournament. If either of these problems flare up it could see her either drop out or play below par. Any thoughts from those more in the know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridle Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) So the tournament takes off tomorrow... Here are my seven golden rules for Wimbledon (not to be taken too seriously): 1) Do not bet against any -IC. All croatian/former yugoslavian starters in both the mens and womens event look like potential dangers. Ancic,Karlovic,Ljubicic - Jankovic,Ivanovic(last year's junior champ. here!). 2) Stay away from the flippy-floppy germans. Refering to Schuettler(called Shaker here),Haas(still trying to figure out why he is talking to himself in match breaks),Kiefer(Nerves like a woman),Popp(always ascends from the lowest niveau to a good form in wimbledon). 3) NO 0-3 set bets against big servers. Even players like Federer will have difficulties to overcome players that serve lightening speed precise strokes. 4) Don't bet on clay specialist despite tempting odds. E.g. Coria/Ferrero/Robredo - there is reason some of them already announced they aren't starting here. It is simply not the same. 5) If you're going for outrights expect the upper half - go each-way. I am talking from experience here. I had Puerta to win French Open @250/1 but win only. The bottom half is surely weaker and maybe some long odds player will slip through. 6) Tim won't win this tournament. Simply had to include that - patriotism is an okay thing, but let's face it. he isn't in a form for this - i'd rather take murray! 7) Don't bet on rain. Excellent weather forecast. We are in for heat battles.:cow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Looking at laying Kim Clijsters outright at 6.8. She just won the Eastbourne tournamnet but has come back from knee injuries and according to the BBC has been suffering back problems to some degree during the Eastbourne tournament. If either of these problems flare up it could see her either drop out or play below par. Any thoughts from those more in the know? What I can say is Clijsters has a very favourable draw and she should make the final on all accounts as there's hardly anyone besides Davenport who's going to trouble her and she will only meet Davenport in the 4th Round. Sharapova, S Williams and Henin-Hardenne are all in the other half so basically it could well mean just one of the trio will stand between her and the title if she makes the final as expected. Honestly, I can't see Clijsters winning Wimbledon and that's not just because I am unconvinced she will be able to overcome her opponent in the final. She's a choker when she plays the big names and I guess there're certainly more reasons to explain her failure to win any Slam to date, in spite of her seemingly boundless talent, than just luck. Her capitulation at the hands of Davenport at Roland Garros this year, the fact that she lost to Henin-Hardenne in 3 of the 4 Grand Slam finals Henin-Hardenne has won despite leading her compatriot 9-7 on career head-to-head and her infamous defeat by Serena Williams at the 2003 Aussie Open SF when she was up a set and 5-1 in the second are just some instances that sum up what she's made of. Looking at the value of the bet though, I suppose you could actually lay her at much shorter prices as the tournament goes along so you might want to wait a little just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Thanks edtkh, any thoughts on the others that I put up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Thanks edtkh' date=' any thoughts on the others that I put up?[/quote'] With the exception of Beck to beat Philippoussis, I wouldn't disagree with any you've picked. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojic2003 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Lisnard(1.40) Edtkh, what about Lisnard(1.40)?Looks like a pure banker to me... I know he's not not an expert for grass, but Oscar Hernandez seems to be one of the biggest sh*ts on the fast surfaces nowadays.The guy plays only on clay, plus he had the challenger final today, against Lapentti in Braunschweig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Lisnard(1.40) Edtkh' date=' what about [b']Lisnard(1.40)?Looks like a pure banker to me... I know he's not not an expert for grass, but Oscar Hernandez seems to be one of the biggest sh*ts on the fast surfaces nowadays.The guy plays only on clay, plus he had the challenger final today, against Lapentti in Braunschweig.kojic, I wouldn't say that's a great bet although I'd have to agree with you I'd fancy Lisnard to shade this if I had to choose. Problem with this match is, although Hernandez sucks on grass, Lisnard's record on this surface isn't any better - hence, it's more a case of a matchup between 2 grasscourt inepts. You could check the career grasscourt records of both players at : J R Lisnard : http://www.tenniscorner.net/index.php?corner=M&action=players&playerid=LIJ001 O Hernandez : http://www.tenniscorner.net/index.php?corner=M&action=players&playerid=HEO001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Joe Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Doing a Win Accumulator on 1st days play: Rusedski to beat Martin @ 1/7 Mello to beat Sherwood @ 4/7 Saulnier to beat Hrbaty @ 11/10 Philippoussis to beat Beck @ 4/6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klavi Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Re: Tennis : Wimbledon 2005 (20th June - 3rd July) Hi Guys I’m new to this forum. Bookmaker: William Hill[/color][color=black] Stake[/color][color=black]: 8/10 [/color][color=black]<o:p></o:p>[/color] [color=black]Vinci" s form is great get to the semi-finals last week in eastbourne i can se why bookies have set odds sugiyama favour here> H2H says Vinci 1-0 Type: Tennis WTA Event: Tamarine Tanasugarn vs Karolina Sprem Pick: Tamarine Tanasugarn Odds: 2,09 Bookmaker: 5dimes Stake: 8/10 Tanasugarn have not played well this year until they started this grass season. It don't seem like Sprem can find the play she had last year.Therefore i have Tana as a small favorit today. GL to all today. /Klavi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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