Darran Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France Back to the boring sprint races today and it is very hard to get away from the big boys in a stage that has one Cat 4 climb. There is not one corner in the last 5km of the day so it maybe a day for the power sprinters. Kittel and Greipel have the better lead outs so they will be my picks for the day. 2 Pt Win Greipel @ 3.75 1 Pt ew Kittel @ 9.0 Not sure where you got the no corner thing but you got the winner. Cav will be fuming again, almost think he would be better doing things by himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France Well done with Kittel....But that stage was an accident waiting to happen....Unlucky again Cav..Stage 11 should be easier to have a wager on..be back later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France Not sure Stage 11 will be easier to have a bet on as Martin is 1/3 and hard to see him losing even with his injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France Seems to be 50/50 on people saying the crash was Cav's fault or not. Veelers is saying is saying it was Cav's fault. My view is it was a bit of both and the right decision has been made as Cav has not been relegated. As much as I like Cav I have to say the taking of the reporters recorder was pretty petty and out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France Seems to be 50/50 on people saying the crash was Cav's fault or not. Veelers is saying is saying it was Cav's fault. My view is it was a bit of both and the right decision has been made as Cav has not been relegated. As much as I like Cav I have to say the taking of the reporters recorder was pretty petty and out of order. I don't mind that...Its high emotion, They work bloody hard, and don't get me wrong get paid well, but some reporters do get up their noses....asking some stupid questions, not sure it was that here, but it matters to them, he is a winner and it matters to him.....But I agree, 6 of 1 half dozen of the other, at 40k plus, the slightest touch or mistake can be fatal, I don't think anyone should be blamed here....Just move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France I don't mind that...Its high emotion' date=' They work bloody hard, and don't get me wrong get paid well, but some reporters do get up their noses....asking some stupid questions, not sure it was that here, but it matters to them, he is a winner and it matters to him.....But I agree, 6 of 1 half dozen of the other, at 40k plus, the slightest touch or mistake can be fatal, I don't think anyone should be blamed here....Just move on.[/quote'] The reporter just asked him if he thought the crash was his fault, hardly a question that shouldn't have been asked. From the interview I have seen Cav suggests that if he had of won the stage they would have demoted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France The reporter just asked him if he thought the crash was his fault' date=' hardly a question that shouldn't have been asked. From the interview I have seen Cav suggests that if he had of won the stage they would have demoted him.[/quote'] I know were your coming from m8...But maybe they should do what they do in footie etc, over 1/2 hour cooling off period to talk to people around them...Id be in a coma...if I tried to do it, so they would nt get an answer,,:rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France Stage 10....Time Trial,,,,Why Tony Martin is so short, I just don't know......1/2 or shorter in most places...Ridiculous price, considering how wind direction, can have a massive bearing on the result, the tougher it gets, the less likely he wins, yes it more or less pretty flat, but at such a very short price ..im a layer of this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Re: Tour De France Stage 10....Time Trial' date=',,,Why Tony Martin is so short, I just don't know......1/2 or shorter in most places...Ridiculous price, considering how wind direction, can have a massive bearing on the result, the tougher it gets, the less likely he wins, yes it more or less pretty flat, but at such a very short price ..im a layer of this guy[/quote'] He deserves to be this short. Like I say even with the injuries he should win this fairly comfortably. Only Froome should really be able to get anywhere near him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France He deserves to be this short. Like I say even with the injuries he should win this fairly comfortably. Only Froome should really be able to get anywhere near him Far to short for me here, 2/1 against on the lay..He may win but im not on board at this 4/9(average) price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenspm Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France I'm actually backing Martin here. His starting position isn't optimal, but I still think him not winning will require either an absolutely incredible ride by Froome or an accident for Martin. To be honest, I was expecting sub-1.40s, so I'm happy to take 1.44 with Coral. Think it's at least a fair price, and actually a few ticks too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France Quick time for Martin which should be hard to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France Quick time for Martin which should be hard to beat. Yes good time,,,but some strong riders remain...If he wins he wins, I just thought at 4/9 ish was poor,,just my opinion....Im concentrating more on Cricket at the mo,,so ill have to let it ride,,,not much halm done if he wins. GL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France Just before I get back to the CRicket.....CAV apparently got booed at the start...and items thrown at him along the way and people getting across his riding line...THE TOUR NEED TO GET IT OUT LOUD N CLEAR..And show both coming off a racing line..so therefore just one of those things....If they don't,,could turn NASTY in the mountains....Would withdraw him if it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France Should say I haven't backed Martin but saw little mileage in taking him on as in my opinion only Froome can beat him. Cav apparently had urine thrown at him which is obviously out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France It has come down to the big two and going to be very close. Huge effort from Froome wherever he finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France 12 seconds victory in the end....That's close in a TT, for a big odds on, but well done to the backers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtc12 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Re: Tour De France Stage 12 Another day for the sprinters with this stage having a 450m spin in. I think this stage may suit Mark Cavendish (depending on his mental form) over Greipel and Kittel as they prefer a long sprint finish. Don't think there will be a breakaway so i am going to look for better prices than the 2.0 for Cav, so, 1 ew @ 12.0 P.Sagan 1 ew @ 151.0 M.Kwiatkowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France Stage 12 Another day for the sprinters with this stage having a 450m spin in. I think this stage may suit Mark Cavendish (depending on his mental form) over Greipel and Kittel as they prefer a long sprint finish. Don't think there will be a breakaway so i am going to look for better prices than the 2.0 for Cav, so, 1 ew @ 12.0 P.Sagan 1 ew @ 151.0 M.Kwiatkowski Another stage were by there could be problems in the last 1km ,,,,No bet for me, KWIATKOWSKI not a bad shout at the odds..GL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomah Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France 1 ew @ 12.0 P.Sagan 1 ew @ 151.0 M.Kwiatkowski Thank you for a lot of good tips so far in the TdF. But what du you mean by "ew"? Each way? Are you betting on Sagan to finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France Thank you for a lot of good tips so far in the TdF. But what du you mean by "ew"? Each way? Are you betting on Sagan to finish 1st' date=' 2nd or 3rd?[/quote'] that's correct:D....12/1 if he wins, 3/1 if he finishes 2nd or 3rd....add together for your return...but just 3/1 if he finishes 2nd or 3rd...................i.e 1 point ew at 12/1 would cost you 2 points...but if he won...you would receive 17 points.......if he was only 2nd or 3rd....you would receive 4 points...:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomah Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France that's correct:D....12/1 if he wins' date=' 3/1 if he finishes 2nd or 3rd....add together for your return...but just 3/1 if he finishes 2nd or 3rd...................i.e 1 point ew at 12/1 would cost you 2 points...but if he won...you would receive 17 points.......if he was only 2nd or 3rd....you would receive 4 points...:D[/quote'] Thanks! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France 12 seconds victory in the end....That's close in a TT' date=' for a big odds on, but well done to the backers.[/quote'] Was still the 3rd fastest time-trial in Tour history though. Think it just goes to prove what an effort it was from Froome and what sort of form he is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtc12 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France What about this idea? Was bradley Wiggins as good last year as the result shows. I think the TT won it last year for Wiggins. if Froome had cycled away that day Wiggins was gone. Whether Wiggins is injured or not he would have been no advantage to Froome this year and that is why he pulled out. He would have been shown up as a domestique for Froome. Rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France What about this idea? Was bradley Wiggins as good last year as the result shows. I think the TT won it last year for Wiggins. if Froome had cycled away that day Wiggins was gone. Whether Wiggins is injured or not he would have been no advantage to Froome this year and that is why he pulled out. He would have been shown up as a domestique for Froome. Rant over. Reading between the lines Wiggins didn't ride the Tour because he didn't want to ride for Froome as they don't get on. Wiggins will ride for you if he likes you (Cav at the Worlds and Olympics is a great example of this) but he would rather not ride the race than fake that he is happy to help Froome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France Got to say that Kittel has to be the sprinter of the Tour after that effort. Everything was perfect for Cav and Kittel beat him fair and square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primevil Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France Massive pile up 2km out......Kittel(3rd stage win)...by half a wheel from Cav(should have seen it out)......sagan 3rd......Out of the race...BOSAN-HAGEN--SKY....Looking like a bad shoulder injury.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France I don't think I have ever seen Cav beaten when he is in front. It makes me think that Kittel might just be the better sprinter now. Looks like EBH won't be able to continue as he has fractured his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Re: Tour De France I thought Kittel would be fav for tomorrow's after today's win so a little surprised to see Cav as the market leader again. Griepel might be the play e/w but my luck is really out as I have only backed one stage winner all tour! I backed Kittel the only time he wasn't in a sprint and didn't back Cav the only time he has one. I think Kittel is the one to beat now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresNoLimit Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Re: Tour De France Why was the ITV4 (UK Tour De France broadcaster) commentator saying '....Cavendish won't be beaten from there,' or something along those lines? Not a very helpful or clever comment when people have sums of money invested in the outcome and one which I'm a bit annoyed about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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