Tennis - 25-31 October

[ewana]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Anyone know why Dmitry Tursunov odds have gone from 1/6 to 8/15 within the space of the last 30 minutes? He is playing Michal Przysiezny in Russia. Dogey:(

[homunculus]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

You can find live stream at atdhe.net

Thank you for the info, but I do have (paid) HD "live stream" at EurosportPlayer :-). I just needed a working scoreboard URL for my cell-phone. It looks, however, that they corrected it at protennislive and scoreboard now correctly shows Dementiava-Wozniacki (though they still don't have "today's results" completed). Will be a hour or so away from my PC and I would like to know how the second leg of my parlay evolves :hope

[rokasar]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Jouan v Dent(-3 AH)@1.98 Pinnacle (7/10) Won Schwank to beat [email protected] Pinnacle (5/10) Lost Garcia-Lopez(-2.5) v Berrer@2 Pinnacle (6/10) Lost Tipsarevic(-3 AH) v [email protected] Pinnacle (5/10) Won Istomin v Marchenko (Under 22.5)@1.99 Pinnacle (5/10) Void Isner(-4) v [email protected] Pinnacle (4/10) Won Istomin and Chela parlay(vs Marchenko and Martin)@1.96 Pinnacle (6/10) Lost -0.67 units for the day. Istomin really let me down a lot, but that is the same lesson that i know for a while - don't involve one player in more than one bet. Everything is okay. All hopes in tommorow.

[Boycie]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October This Muster is not bad at all, I was to young to see him at his best but he's got a nice one-handed backhand and volley. This Haider was playing with 500% and bring me some money in the end but some serious player wouldn't let Muster more then 2-3 games. To sum up, can't wait for picking up some more money against Muster, let's put all of this granny's back on Tour :rollin And thanks to everyone for Woz, it seems that Dementieva came here just to pick some guaranteed money. There's no fight, there's no intense, there is nothing, not more than 50% from her.. Said for this kind of tournament...

[Matt]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

Anyone know why Dmitry Tursunov odds have gone from 1/6 to 8/15 within the space of the last 30 minutes? He is playing Michal Przysiezny in Russia. Dogey:(

Look at it now. Pryz 1 set up and on serve. Tursunov 1/20. How corrupt is this sport? They arent even bothering to hide it anymore.

[IAmGooner]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October 2 loss on Isner's match. Hate tennis this time of year.

[Matt]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October I anyone watching this stream? How can look at themselves in the morning? This is the most obvious fix I've seen in sport. :\

[rokasar]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

I anyone watching this stream? How can look at themselves in the morning? This is the most obvious fix I've seen in sport. :\

I guess these kind of talks are not allowed at this forum. It's tennis, one man sport and everybody needs money. Only top 100 players are living from this sport. And these things happen really often particularly in east and southeast Europe, because in tennis you just have to talk with one guy which is easier than whole team. Looks like we just have to adapt with. Maybe to write some black list of players or tournaments. We can't do anything to stop it.

[CzechPunter]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Quite normal results for me today, depending on Nieminen and Wozniacki, it can be either small loss or small win.

[ewana]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Bjorn Phau v Florian Mayer I have to say that I feel there is real value in Mayers odds tommorrow in his match in Vienna. I was suprised to see his odds at 5/13 with Bet365. I expected his odds to be around 1/5 to be honest. I have watched Mayer in a few matches and I have been very impressed especially when he disposed of Lopez in Stockholm last week when he progressed to the final also knocking out Soderling. Phau dosen't have many weapons in my opinion to trouble Mayer. Phau has a 2-1 head to head against Mayer but they have not played against each other in 4 years. I am also tempted to take Mayer to win 2-0 and this is available at Evens with Bet365. Mayer to win 2-0 - Evens Mayer to win - 5/13 (big stakes)

[Atko]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Poor show from me today again, with Guillermo Garcia-Lopez suffering big time and losing to Michael Berrer. Not much is standing out to me at the moment. I am interested to see what the handicap is on Jurgen Melzer, who plays Lukasz Kubot. Melzer is a far superior player and Kubot's playing woefully at the moment. A -4.5 game line would be in my remit. One bet I am going for is Mikhail Youzhny -4.5 games AH against Daniel Brands. There is a huge gulf in quality between these two players. Brands is all serve and very little else and once a player gets a read on him, he struggles badly. Indoors, Pablo Cuevas, Benjamin Becker and Tommy Robredo have all dismantled him recently and I see Youzhny as the better player. He missed Moscow with a virus but he'll be ready to go here infront of a home crowd. He's very comfortable in these conditions and has talent off both flanks. Brands' best form has been shown on clay. I don't think the German has much of a hope here if Youzhny plays to his best. St Petersburg has thrown up some odd results though, so I'll keep the stakes modest, although I do think the odds of 2.03 are there to be smashed. I also think the -2 game line AH is generous on Yen-Hsun Lu at 2.100, especially considering he won Seoul last week. Potito Starace is not a great indoors player and Lu will be more comfortable if the rallies start. My only fear for Lu is fatigue from last week but he's not far away from a Top 32 berth, which would be a seeding in the Australian Open next year, so the motivation on a surface he likes is pretty high for him. He's in form and has had a good year, and I'll play small stakes that he can take out a clay courter in quick conditions in St Petersburg. Selections: - Mikhail Youzhny -4.5 games AH (vs Daniel Brands) @ 2.03 with Pinnacle (4/10) - Yen-Hsun Lu -2 games AH (vs Potito Starace) @ 2.10 with Pinnacle (2/10) :hope

[CzechPunter]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Strangely enough, all my bets are from Petersburg. Well well, let's hope for the best :hope A Dolgopolov - F Fognini Pick: 2 (+4.5 games) Stake: 4/10 Odds: 2.50 Bookmaker: Pinnacle Speculative, but these odds are huge and lower stakes can reap high returns here. Fognini is primarily a clay courter, but so is Dolgopolov. Yes, he had many good results lately, but he is known for throwing in a bad set way too often and he is always quite inconsistent. The handicap is right here, but the price is way off. There may be a couple of reasons, so I will be wary nevertheless and lower the stakes. R Schuettler - Troicki Pick: 2 (-4 games) Stake: 5/10 Odds: 1.95 Bookmaker: Pinnacle I am lowering the stakes for this one due to the fatigue factor that can affect Troicki after Moscow. But Schuettler is not someone who could cope with the young guns. Troicki has a great serve and when he clicks, he can blow Schuettler of the court. The handicap is not that big, I was expecting the line to be higher (-4.5), so I will take some of this at lower stakes. M Russell - J Tipsarevic Pick: 2 (-4 games) Stake: 7/10 Odds: 1.93 Bookmaker: Pinnacle Continuing to back Tipsarevic here, this time against a relatively poor player - Russell. Russell can play good game at times, but he is so nervy and cannot play well on important points. We have seen this against Stakhovsky (twice!) and Andreev lately. Tipsarevic is motivated for this tournament and he is a class above Russell, who has no big weapons in his repertoire. The handicap can be covered even in three sets.

[Boycie]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Completely agree with your Tipsa and Troicki explanations, but I'm little bit worried about Tipsa "performances" last week so I think twice about it before putting some money.. Only 6,450 matched at Betfair so far, it seems I'm not the only one that feared of him :unsure

[rokasar]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Got a lot of bets today and lack of time to write some arguments, so i'm typing just nude bets. M. Youzhny (-4.5) vs D. [email protected] (4/10) R. Schuettler vs V. Troicki (-4)@ 1.91 (5/10) M. Russell/J. Tipsarevic (U 21.5)@2.01 (7/10) B. Phau vs F. Mayer (-3.5)@1.87 (8/10) N. Mahut vs G. Simon (-4)@2.09 (5/10) J. Isner (-3) vs A. [email protected] (6/10) N. Davydenko (-3) vs M. [email protected] (5/10) All bets with Pinnacle. One bet is already over. It was Becker over Stakhovsky and german guys done the job in style at nice odds. :ok Good luck for all today. :hope

[homunculus]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October ATP Montpellier R16 Davydenko vs Zverev, selection: Zverev @Pinnacle 2.790 Davydenko is playing nothing in past couple of weeks, losing to Cuevas last week in Moscow (at home!) and namely to Zverev two weeks ago in Shangai. He arrives to Montpellier as the seed no 1 into the middle of round 2. Zverev went through qualies here, and in round 1 he defeated Haase, so I would say that he got a grip on the court. Neither one attended this tournment last year, so there are no points to defend. With Zverev being I-hard specialist and no apparent motivation on Davy's side, and with recent win of Zverev over Davydenko, I'd say that 2.790 is a must try. Doha white group Zvonareva vs Azarenka, selection: Azarenka @Pinnacle 2.400 Odds were plumetting here since they appeared (start value was 2.560). Azarenka just had succesfull week in Moscow, beating quality Kirilenko in the final. I'd say that if Zvonareva wins, it will be a tough fight. I missed the start value, so I am trying to jump on the train now. Doha maroon group Wozniacki vs Stosur, selection: Stosur @Pinnacle 4.92 Stosur had couple of bad results since US Open, losing to Date-Krumm at Osaka (though perhaps Kimiko at home should be considered quality opponent), and Sevastova in Beijing and Goerges in Tokyo. But I watched her come-back yesterday in her match with Schiavonne, where she amazingly recovered from 0-4 down in set 1 to the eventual victory 6-4 6-4. From the 5th game, this was completely different Samantha, delivering killers forehand winners over and over again, so that Francesca had no chance whatsoever. I'd say that 4.92 is a bit off the real value. Yes, Woz is considered a lock, but the time has come she could lose to someone (other than Clijsters). H2H is 2:2, with Samantha having won their only meeting on hard, and it was one year ago in Osaka. If Samatha manages to keep her number of UEs low, this is definitely worth a shot.

[rokasar]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October I no longer wondering why Tipsa and Troick are such a good friends..

[b10111]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

I no longer wondering why Tipsa and Troick are such a good friends..

What an asshole Troicki is :puke Thats all I have to say:wall

[icecreamdreams]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

What an asshole Troicki is :puke Thats all I have to say:wall

I agree 10000%!! can't believe it after last tournament he played he was amazing . And Mayer too what a complete loser! Gees end of the year is hard time to call. I'm thankful wozniacki is a noble lady :) Without her I may have be crying!!

[b10111]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

What an asshole Troicki is :puke Thats all I have to say:wall

what irritates me the most is they try to pretend they lost fighting but we know what kind of players they are, we know Troicki is a hard worker and not the streaky type, so how does he break in the 2^nd game of the 3^rd set to lead 2-0 after winning the second set and then go on to be broken several times in a row and lose the set 6-3.

Tennis players don’t realize we study their every move, pattern, the way they play their struggles, you cant wake up one day and think you can fool the punter. damn, I even know what Tsonga is thinking of now just before his game against Riba:(

[ewana]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

Bjorn Phau v Florian Mayer I have to say that I feel there is real value in Mayers odds tommorrow in his match in Vienna. I was suprised to see his odds at 5/13 with Bet365. I expected his odds to be around 1/5 to be honest. I have watched Mayer in a few matches and I have been very impressed especially when he disposed of Lopez in Stockholm last week when he progressed to the final also knocking out Soderling. Phau dosen't have many weapons in my opinion to trouble Mayer. Phau has a 2-1 head to head against Mayer but they have not played against each other in 4 years. I am also tempted to take Mayer to win 2-0 and this is available at Evens with Bet365. Mayer to win 2-0 - Evens Mayer to win - 5/13 (big stakes)

Disaster:puke I dont know where the hell this result came from. Mybe it was an old pals act since their both from Germany. I am not bothering with ATP events for the rest of the year. I am sticking to challenger events as they seem to be far more easy to predict believe it or not.

[Boycie]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Doctor came in on Tipsa match :) This is the last time a put a money on something like this. Instead of watching the match I'm watching odds whole the time no meter Tipsa is killing him just from the beginning. It seems there's nothing suspicious here but once you get burned...

[Atko]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

Disaster:puke I dont know where the hell this result came from. Mybe it was an old pals act since their both from Germany. I am not bothering with ATP events for the rest of the year. I am sticking to challenger events as they seem to be far more easy to predict believe it or not.

Easy to say now, but Mayer is not the fittest player on tour and just had a long, tough week in Stockholm. Looking at the score, I'd guess he was completely wiped out. You're right though, these matches are getting tough to predict. Question is, in Phau now Bjorn again? (alright, I'll get my coat :loon)

[CzechPunter]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October Well, I cannot complain about the results, Fognini covered and Tipsarevic was comfortably through. Only that Troicki, but I knew the risk and staked accordingly. Nice profit for today with Nieminen coming in too. :nana

[Boycie]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

Well' date=' I cannot complain about the results, Fognini covered and Tipsarevic was comfortably through. Only that Troicki, but I knew the risk and staked accordingly. Nice profit for today with Nieminen coming in too. :nana[/quote'] Congrat's!! :ok

[Atko]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

- Mikhail Youzhny -4.5 games AH (vs Daniel Brands) @ 2.03 with Pinnacle (4/10) WIN - Yen-Hsun Lu -2 games AH (vs Potito Starace) @ 2.10 with Pinnacle (2/10) WIN

Much, much better today. These two came in at nice prices and pretty easily. Congrats to all the other winners today :ok

[homunculus]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

ATP Montpellier R16 Davydenko vs Zverev, selection: Zverev @Pinnacle 2.790 LOSS wrong call, Davydenko apparently meant to win some points here Zvonareva vs Azarenka, selection: Azarenka @Pinnacle 2.400 LOSS Poor Azarenka. She was twice break up in the first set, once in the second set, still managed to lose the match. Wozniacki vs Stosur, selection: Stosur @Pinnacle 4.92 WIN S-T-O-S-U-R :nana Stosur is the only lady here that can place a nice pummelled ball in the court. Good job!

Overall 4.92 - 3 = 1.92 profit Nice result considering it's wednesday.

[Atko]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October I think the trick this week is to be extremely conservative with staking, unless something really grabs you by the jaffas and says: "Hit me." Can't say anything has taken my eye to the point where I want to back it with a big one, but I've gone for three bets tomorrow, all with very modest stakes. The first of those is a double. The two men in question are Juan Ignacio Chela and Victor Hanescu. I'll start with Chela first. The Argentine's had quite a nice year. Won Bucharest a few weeks back on the clay and took care of Andrej Martin easily enough in R1 here. He's got another Slovenian, Grega Zemlja, to contend with. Chela, for me, is just the better player, no matter what surface you put him on, against Zemlja here. The Slovenian's recent results have been pretty average of late and his last big win was against an unfit Juan Monaco at Roland Garros. Chela prefers slower surfaces but he's experienced enough to deal with quicker surfaces. He's another who is not too far away from an Australian Open seeding berth so I expect him to battle in the next few tournaments. Zemlja isn't good enough, for me, to beat Chela. I think the same applies for Hanescu's opponent, Rajeev Ram. Poor Rajeev gets a bit of a battering on here; not all of it is justified. He's quite an old-fashioned player, very much a serve-and-volleyer and does have a big forehand. Problem is, he's not the most accurate, nor consistent. Hanescu's all-round game is much better and he seems to be taking this week seriously. He completely trashed Horacio Zeballos 6-2 6-0 in the last round which for me, shows he's in the mood. He might face one awkward set here against Ram's serve but once he gets a grip on the American's game, I can't see him losing. Double is worth 1.92 and it's playable for me. I feel it's hard to ignore Pablo Cuevas' rise in the last couple of weeks. Cuevas has always been regarded as a clay courter but his recent matches suggest he's starting to piece together a game-plan on indoor surfaces. He's serving very well at present and he plays with a lot of top-spin, which I don't think will suit his opponent here, Michael Berrer. The German got a good win over Guillermo Garcia-Lopez in the last round but both men were choking like hell towards the end. Berrer's very one-dimensional with his game - it's all about serve and attack - and Cuevas' elongation of rallies won't suit him. With both men so dominant on serve, however, I'd expect a breaker. Unbelievably, Cuevas has won 15 breakers this year and only lost one. You'd have to favour him in such circumstances. The form Cuevas is in will mean he's full of confidence and Berrer, in many ways, plays a similar game to Radek Stepanek, who Cuevas beat last week. I like the Uruguayan here and odds of 2.17 are full of value. Cuevas is in better form at present and can take this. My final bet is a real speculative attempt. I quite like Rainer Schuettler to take out Alexandr Dolgopolov tomorrow. Now, I'm one of Dolgopolov's fans, but I wasn't impressed how he struggled with Fabio Fognini today. A better indoors player would have beaten him. Schuettler's a wily old fox who been the course and will give Dolgopolov a real match-up here. The German may be 34 but he's actually one of the quickest and fittest players on tour. He'll take heart from a good win over Viktor Troicki, albeit the Serb was tired. Dolgopolov's got the ability to get under the skin of players but I'm not sure Schuettler will fall for his spin and his quickness in between serves. The Ukrainian is still raw and can throw in the odd clanger. It's not one to go wild on but 2.44 does seem a good bet on a player I reckon could spring a wee surprise here. There is life in the old dog yet. Selections: - Juan Ignacio Chela (vs Grega Zemlja) x Victor Hanescu (vs Rajeev Ram) @ 1.92 with Pinnacle (3/10) - Pablo Cuevas (vs Michael Berrer) @ 2.17 with Pinnacle (3/10) - Rainer Schuettler (vs Alexandr Dolgopolov) @ 2.44 with Pinnacle (2/10) :hope

[CzechPunter]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

- Rainer Schuettler (vs Alexandr Dolgopolov) @ 2.44 with Pinnacle (2/10)

Cannot agree with this one, but good luck anyways. I am extremely worried about Schuettler's form. If we discount the match today - and there are good reasons to do so - he has recently lost to Haider-Maurer, Kubot and Niland. And who did he beat? Peya, Semjan, Heliovaara, Mello. That can't be considered to be an accomplishment. Dolgopolov is proving himself well on this surface and I cannot see past him in this match, although I am not sure yet whether the handicaps are worth taking, since he is indeed inconsistent at times.

[rokasar]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October

M. Youzhny (-4.5) vs D. [email protected] (4/10) WON R. Schuettler vs V. Troicki (-4)@ 1.91 (5/10) LOST M. Russell/J. Tipsarevic (U 21.5)@2.01 (7/10) WON B. Phau vs F. Mayer (-3.5)@1.87 (8/10) LOST N. Mahut vs G. Simon (-4)@2.09 (5/10) VOID J. Isner (-3) vs A. [email protected] (6/10) VOID N. Davydenko (-3) vs M. [email protected] (5/10) WON

small +2.65 pts profit for yesterday. But profit is profit. Today i see some bets that i like and i'll write thm down with small arguments later. :)

[homunculus]

Re: Tennis - 25-31 October WTA Doha Zvonareva or Stosur to win Doha @Pinnacle 2.39 (Pinna does not have this option explicitly available, but it can be combined by using two straight bets) Both Zvonareva and Stosur already qualified into semi. My opinion is, that they both win their respective groups. In the maroon group, Dementieva is the one to end in the bottom, so Zvonareva will meet either Wozniacki (more probable), or Schiavonne (less probable) in the semi. With Schiavonne H2H is 10:0 for Vera, so the question is whether Vera is able to beat Woz, which I would say she is (btw, their H2H shows funny alternating pattern, and now it's the time for Vera to win :-) In the white group, Jankovic is the one to end in the bottom, so Stosur will meet either Clijsters (more probable) or Azarenka (less probable) in the semi. As to Clijsters, Kim did beat Stosur every time they met (4 times), and so did Azarenka, so this is the weak point of the plan. However, from the matches I have been watching, I would conclude that Samantha is in superb form now. So there is a fair chance that Vera and Samantha meet in the final. The bet could go through even if Samantha will not make it into final.