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Valiant Thor

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from Wildgarden in Handicaps   
    I wouldn't  pay too much attention from the Ex_Odds as there algorithm is derived from Nhcp racing , I expect the ?odds to get better as it learns .
    The ex_odds which are fairly close to the B365 odds (@ time of posting) are the ones I'd be looking @ at the moment.
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from alexcaruso808 in Handicaps   
    Todays selections looks like about 3 or 4 needed for a profit/break even~
    All prices/runners correct @ time of collected data (Timestamped)

     
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from richard-westwood in Handicaps   
    Todays selections looks like about 3 or 4 needed for a profit/break even~
    All prices/runners correct @ time of collected data (Timestamped)

     
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from BBBC in Handicaps   
    Todays selections looks like about 3 or 4 needed for a profit/break even~
    All prices/runners correct @ time of collected data (Timestamped)

     
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from Wildgarden in Handicaps   
    As stated several times on this board I am not a lover of Jumps racing  or Hcp's. (flat or Jumps)
    But as most (70% ish) of racing are Hcps that's a lot of untapped water under the bridge as they say.
    I have my Auto Bets bot thats been running my algorithm on BF now full time since 2016 , It updates the data every evening, it does its stuff and backs accordingly in non Hcp races without any of the should I / shouldn't I back it from myself, which is why I built it in the first place to eradicate the human element.
    To cut a long story short I am going to try and replicate my Auto Bet bot for Hcps
    So heres Version 1 ?
    Lets see how it goes
     

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from MCLARKE in Handicaps   
    Todays selections looks like about 3 or 4 needed for a profit/break even~
    All prices/runners correct @ time of collected data (Timestamped)

     
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from vikki37 in Handicaps   
    As stated several times on this board I am not a lover of Jumps racing  or Hcp's. (flat or Jumps)
    But as most (70% ish) of racing are Hcps that's a lot of untapped water under the bridge as they say.
    I have my Auto Bets bot thats been running my algorithm on BF now full time since 2016 , It updates the data every evening, it does its stuff and backs accordingly in non Hcp races without any of the should I / shouldn't I back it from myself, which is why I built it in the first place to eradicate the human element.
    To cut a long story short I am going to try and replicate my Auto Bet bot for Hcps
    So heres Version 1 ?
    Lets see how it goes
     

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from Xtc12 in Handicaps   
    Better than expected for starters 3 from 9    33% sr
    3.5pts profit from 9pts staked 38.8% yield from B365 odds available @ time of posting.

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from MCLARKE in Which Sites / Resources Do You use & Recommend?   
    Create your own database , then your only limited by your own imagination
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from alexcaruso808 in Handicaps   
    Better than expected for starters 3 from 9    33% sr
    3.5pts profit from 9pts staked 38.8% yield from B365 odds available @ time of posting.

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from MCLARKE in Handicaps   
    Better than expected for starters 3 from 9    33% sr
    3.5pts profit from 9pts staked 38.8% yield from B365 odds available @ time of posting.

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from Wildgarden in Which Sites / Resources Do You use & Recommend?   
    Create your own database , then your only limited by your own imagination
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from alexcaruso808 in Handicaps   
    I wouldn't  pay too much attention from the Ex_Odds as there algorithm is derived from Nhcp racing , I expect the ?odds to get better as it learns .
    The ex_odds which are fairly close to the B365 odds (@ time of posting) are the ones I'd be looking @ at the moment.
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from alexcaruso808 in Handicaps   
    As stated several times on this board I am not a lover of Jumps racing  or Hcp's. (flat or Jumps)
    But as most (70% ish) of racing are Hcps that's a lot of untapped water under the bridge as they say.
    I have my Auto Bets bot thats been running my algorithm on BF now full time since 2016 , It updates the data every evening, it does its stuff and backs accordingly in non Hcp races without any of the should I / shouldn't I back it from myself, which is why I built it in the first place to eradicate the human element.
    To cut a long story short I am going to try and replicate my Auto Bet bot for Hcps
    So heres Version 1 ?
    Lets see how it goes
     

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from richard-westwood in Handicaps   
    As stated several times on this board I am not a lover of Jumps racing  or Hcp's. (flat or Jumps)
    But as most (70% ish) of racing are Hcps that's a lot of untapped water under the bridge as they say.
    I have my Auto Bets bot thats been running my algorithm on BF now full time since 2016 , It updates the data every evening, it does its stuff and backs accordingly in non Hcp races without any of the should I / shouldn't I back it from myself, which is why I built it in the first place to eradicate the human element.
    To cut a long story short I am going to try and replicate my Auto Bet bot for Hcps
    So heres Version 1 ?
    Lets see how it goes
     

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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from richard-westwood in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    No there are 816 trebles
    4896 tricasts
    trixie from 3 races 6^3 (6*6*6) =216
    Trebles from 18 =18*17*16 / 3*2*1 = 816
    Tricast with 18 runners =18*17*16 =4896 rev forecasts
    If you take all combinations of 8*9*10 then yes 720 is correct but to make a trixie profitable you have to take the square root 0f 720*4
    so if you combined all the runners in trixies you would have to have min odds of over 52/1 per horse to make a profit. if 2 won.
    Some may agree some not , but successful betting is more about getting the numbers right than just picking a horse you fancy.
    If you have 18 runners but are just taking the top 5 rated as per @richard-westwood then that would equate to
    RF doubles 20 (5*4)
    RF trebles 60 (5*4*3)
    ATB
    VT
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from The Equaliser in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    Its the difference between Combinations & Permutations
    A treble is a COMBINATION  where order is irrelevant  (pick 3 horses A , B , C in 3 races ) as long as they all win it doesn't matter in what order they win
    A Tricast is a PERMUTATION where order is relevant as they are in the same race so if you pick A to bt B to bt C result = B , A , C will be a loser , hence you do them in reverse tricasts of ABC ACB BCA BAC CAB CBA  in order to get a winner if they all come in the first 3 regardless of position.
    If you picked 18 horses from 18 races and put them in trebles it would be 816 trebles ( order irrelevant )
    If you picked 18 horses from 1 race and put them in Tricasts it would be 4896  tricasts ( order relevant )
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from harry_rag in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    simple math
    trebles from 18 runners is 18*17*16 (4896 ) then divide by 3*2*1(6) = 816 trebles
    If you want the forecast you just don't divide by 6
    If using an algebraic equation the 6 divisor and the 6 multiplier would cancel each other out and both equal 1
    So the first part of the equation (BOLD) is the answer for any number of runners for forecasts. from the trebles
    If you just wanted the forecasts from all 18 runners it would be 18*17 = 306
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from The Equaliser in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    No there are 816 trebles
    4896 tricasts
    trixie from 3 races 6^3 (6*6*6) =216
    Trebles from 18 =18*17*16 / 3*2*1 = 816
    Tricast with 18 runners =18*17*16 =4896 rev forecasts
    If you take all combinations of 8*9*10 then yes 720 is correct but to make a trixie profitable you have to take the square root 0f 720*4
    so if you combined all the runners in trixies you would have to have min odds of over 52/1 per horse to make a profit. if 2 won.
    Some may agree some not , but successful betting is more about getting the numbers right than just picking a horse you fancy.
    If you have 18 runners but are just taking the top 5 rated as per @richard-westwood then that would equate to
    RF doubles 20 (5*4)
    RF trebles 60 (5*4*3)
    ATB
    VT
  20. Thanks
    Valiant Thor got a reaction from The Equaliser in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    simple math
    trebles from 18 runners is 18*17*16 (4896 ) then divide by 3*2*1(6) = 816 trebles
    If you want the forecast you just don't divide by 6
    If using an algebraic equation the 6 divisor and the 6 multiplier would cancel each other out and both equal 1
    So the first part of the equation (BOLD) is the answer for any number of runners for forecasts. from the trebles
    If you just wanted the forecasts from all 18 runners it would be 18*17 = 306
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from The Equaliser in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    816 trebles
    4896 forecasts
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    Valiant Thor reacted to MCLARKE in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    I remain to be convinced that multiples or forecasts etc are a better option than singles.
    You are unlikely to get the best prices because an individual bookie is unlikely to be offering the best odds on every selection.
    Your average stakes will also need to be lower to maintain your bank, therefore your total winnings will be lower.
    There must be a reason why bookis like multiple bets.
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from alexcaruso808 in Racing chat-thurs 12th May (york day 2)   
    Nothing much to shout about , Bowers ratings got at least 1 placed in all races bar 1.
    The problem with Bower ratings is that they are time dependent in a live market, I suppose the  odds part of his ratings should be taken as near to the race start as possible .

    As for my ratings I backed the yellow 'expected value' selections to win only and had a 9/1 winner but 12pts out and 10pts in is not good  ( hardly do ew if , I do I usually do 20%win & 80%place of my stake on BF)
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from richard-westwood in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    My ratings for York today
    'Expected Value' bets in yellow win only regardless of odds
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    Valiant Thor got a reaction from black rabbit in Racing Chat - Friday 13th May   
    My ratings for York today
    'Expected Value' bets in yellow win only regardless of odds
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