opole

yeah no reason to apologize tbf. i only thought we shouldn't make jokes about the term "value" as IMO it's probably the most important thing in betting.
btw guys, i have some good challenger bets on the line, i will post it early on in the next week topic but have to bet on them first ...

yeah no reason to apologize tbf. i only thought we shouldn't make jokes about the term "value" as IMO it's probably the most important thing in betting.
btw guys, i have some good challenger bets on the line, i will post it early on in the next week topic but have to bet on them first ...

Grigor Dimitrov -1 game @2.00 Dafabet 3/10
I like Dimitrov here for some reasons. He's living in Monte-Carlo for years now and so this is kind of a home tournament for him. He prepared well in MC last two weeks hitting with a lot of good training partners and apparently he looked pretty good. My contact in MC told me he's looking strong and pumped and i think he can deal with a guy like Berrettini on clay who is - to be fair - a really good prospect who can make it to the Top 20/30 soon. Berrettini had good tournament in Phoenix and Sofia but overall more an average year so far with a lot of early losses. 

No. Value is if you think the player (in tennis) you're betting on has (much) better chances to win than Bookies suggesting. It's basically maths.
If Nadal and Djokovic playing each other and Nadal is prized around @2.0 and i give him 70% to win then it's value because bookmakers are giving him 50% and difference between 50% and 70% is big enough to pick him then.
You should deal with the topic and not claiming such strange observations about other tipsters who call some value here and there on bigger odds. It has nothing to do with bigger odds & smaller odds. Odds around 1.9 could have as much value as odds around 3.5.
In my opinion this isn't a topic which is about "to agree or disagree"....it's about facts. And fact is Value is 100% maths. How this works in the end has a lot to do with insider infos about players if you think bookies didn't take it into account what you did with your estimates.

Sorry for that. Just felt offended by the way how someone reacted to my analyses, using words "Zero value...". In the end it's all about winning money. If I bet 10.000 eu on 1.5 and I win, for me it has a lot of value.
And yes. You are right about the other meaning of the value.
Once again. My apologises.

Grigor Dimitrov -1 game @2.00 Dafabet 3/10
I like Dimitrov here for some reasons. He's living in Monte-Carlo for years now and so this is kind of a home tournament for him. He prepared well in MC last two weeks hitting with a lot of good training partners and apparently he looked pretty good. My contact in MC told me he's looking strong and pumped and i think he can deal with a guy like Berrettini on clay who is - to be fair - a really good prospect who can make it to the Top 20/30 soon. Berrettini had good tournament in Phoenix and Sofia but overall more an average year so far with a lot of early losses. 

No. Value is if you think the player (in tennis) you're betting on has (much) better chances to win than Bookies suggesting. It's basically maths.
If Nadal and Djokovic playing each other and Nadal is prized around @2.0 and i give him 70% to win then it's value because bookmakers are giving him 50% and difference between 50% and 70% is big enough to pick him then.
You should deal with the topic and not claiming such strange observations about other tipsters who call some value here and there on bigger odds. It has nothing to do with bigger odds & smaller odds. Odds around 1.9 could have as much value as odds around 3.5.
In my opinion this isn't a topic which is about "to agree or disagree"....it's about facts. And fact is Value is 100% maths. How this works in the end has a lot to do with insider infos about players if you think bookies didn't take it into account what you did with your estimates.

No. Value is if you think the player (in tennis) you're betting on has (much) better chances to win than Bookies suggesting. It's basically maths.
If Nadal and Djokovic playing each other and Nadal is prized around @2.0 and i give him 70% to win then it's value because bookmakers are giving him 50% and difference between 50% and 70% is big enough to pick him then.
You should deal with the topic and not claiming such strange observations about other tipsters who call some value here and there on bigger odds. It has nothing to do with bigger odds & smaller odds. Odds around 1.9 could have as much value as odds around 3.5.
In my opinion this isn't a topic which is about "to agree or disagree"....it's about facts. And fact is Value is 100% maths. How this works in the end has a lot to do with insider infos about players if you think bookies didn't take it into account what you did with your estimates.

No. Value is if you think the player (in tennis) you're betting on has (much) better chances to win than Bookies suggesting. It's basically maths.
If Nadal and Djokovic playing each other and Nadal is prized around @2.0 and i give him 70% to win then it's value because bookmakers are giving him 50% and difference between 50% and 70% is big enough to pick him then.
You should deal with the topic and not claiming such strange observations about other tipsters who call some value here and there on bigger odds. It has nothing to do with bigger odds & smaller odds. Odds around 1.9 could have as much value as odds around 3.5.
In my opinion this isn't a topic which is about "to agree or disagree"....it's about facts. And fact is Value is 100% maths. How this works in the end has a lot to do with insider infos about players if you think bookies didn't take it into account what you did with your estimates.

Grigor Dimitrov -1 game @2.00 Dafabet 3/10
I like Dimitrov here for some reasons. He's living in Monte-Carlo for years now and so this is kind of a home tournament for him. He prepared well in MC last two weeks hitting with a lot of good training partners and apparently he looked pretty good. My contact in MC told me he's looking strong and pumped and i think he can deal with a guy like Berrettini on clay who is - to be fair - a really good prospect who can make it to the Top 20/30 soon. Berrettini had good tournament in Phoenix and Sofia but overall more an average year so far with a lot of early losses. 

Grigor Dimitrov -1 game @2.00 Dafabet 3/10
I like Dimitrov here for some reasons. He's living in Monte-Carlo for years now and so this is kind of a home tournament for him. He prepared well in MC last two weeks hitting with a lot of good training partners and apparently he looked pretty good. My contact in MC told me he's looking strong and pumped and i think he can deal with a guy like Berrettini on clay who is - to be fair - a really good prospect who can make it to the Top 20/30 soon. Berrettini had good tournament in Phoenix and Sofia but overall more an average year so far with a lot of early losses. 

Please, guys, do not argue here. We should share our views and understanding about tennis and tennis players and help each other to win some money from bookies. Bookies are our enemies, not forum members. The power of argument is our weapon. That is my view. Keep coming with good arguments and information and we will all much lighter decide where to put our money.
BTW, Milojevic grabed a life line and plays now 3rd Set but he is already broken...

As i wrote it it wasn't 0-6...i think it wasn't even started but didn't follow the scores tbh.
And no, Arneodo took the MTO mate not Londero! But good luck!

Monte Carlo qualification
Mischa Zverev vs. Julian Ocleppo @3.35 Pinnacle 8/10
Zverev in horrendous form and shape. Looked horrible vs. Daniel in Marrakech. Clay was always his worst surface. Don't see him winning many matches next few weeks. Might cash out some bigger tournaments though and looking forward to grass court. I doubt you can make him a favorite right now vs any decent claycourt player out there. Ocleppo looking solid enough to take advantage of Zverevs bad form. Ocleppo once was a good prospect, beat guys like Auger-Aliassime or Yibing Wu as a junior for example.

Thanks Opole for the updates

As i wrote it it wasn't 0-6...i think it wasn't even started but didn't follow the scores tbh.
And no, Arneodo took the MTO mate not Londero! But good luck!

Don't bet on Arneodo! He has no business on that level mate. You're wasting your money unfortunately. Even if Londero isn't at 100% he beats Arneodo easily bro.

Don't bet on Arneodo! He has no business on that level mate. You're wasting your money unfortunately. Even if Londero isn't at 100% he beats Arneodo easily bro.

Opole strikes again with Ocleppo today. If somebody doesn't cage him up .. He's going to tear down the betting walls, and we'll be back to playing chinese checkers for coins on the street. 

Monte Carlo qualification
Mischa Zverev vs. Julian Ocleppo @3.35 Pinnacle 8/10
Zverev in horrendous form and shape. Looked horrible vs. Daniel in Marrakech. Clay was always his worst surface. Don't see him winning many matches next few weeks. Might cash out some bigger tournaments though and looking forward to grass court. I doubt you can make him a favorite right now vs any decent claycourt player out there. Ocleppo looking solid enough to take advantage of Zverevs bad form. Ocleppo once was a good prospect, beat guys like Auger-Aliassime or Yibing Wu as a junior for example.

I can't see Hammer stopping Shields. Shields is a bit sloppy with her defense from time to time but she can take a punch and Hammer isn't a big puncher anyway. The fight is still in the US and i can't see how Hammer will win a close fight here as Shields will land the eyecatching shots and even if most rounds are close most of them will go to Shields. I took Shields in about 8 or 9 parlays to juice up some "lower" odds. I can also see Shields stopping Hammer. Shields doesn't have big one punch KO power but she has explosiveness and accumulation of shots and Hammer isn't the type of a fighter who likes pressure.
My advice for you: Cash out the 500 and instead take parlays with Shields. It's perfect strechter IMO as i mentioned. The 10/10 was symbolic as IMO you can use it more or less like a banker to juice up smaller odds.
Here are some of my boxing parlays btw:
Ve Shawn Owens x Claressa Shields (both ML)
Jesse Angel Hernandez x Claressa Shields (both ML) // Hernandez dropped from 1.5 to 1.3 btw...
Caleb Truax x Claressa Shields (both ML)
I also have a couple of UFC parlays
Adesanya x Shields
Jouban x Shields
Anders x Shields

Monte Carlo qualification
Mischa Zverev vs. Julian Ocleppo @3.35 Pinnacle 8/10
Zverev in horrendous form and shape. Looked horrible vs. Daniel in Marrakech. Clay was always his worst surface. Don't see him winning many matches next few weeks. Might cash out some bigger tournaments though and looking forward to grass court. I doubt you can make him a favorite right now vs any decent claycourt player out there. Ocleppo looking solid enough to take advantage of Zverevs bad form. Ocleppo once was a good prospect, beat guys like Auger-Aliassime or Yibing Wu as a junior for example.

Monte Carlo qualification
Mischa Zverev vs. Julian Ocleppo @3.35 Pinnacle 8/10
Zverev in horrendous form and shape. Looked horrible vs. Daniel in Marrakech. Clay was always his worst surface. Don't see him winning many matches next few weeks. Might cash out some bigger tournaments though and looking forward to grass court. I doubt you can make him a favorite right now vs any decent claycourt player out there. Ocleppo looking solid enough to take advantage of Zverevs bad form. Ocleppo once was a good prospect, beat guys like Auger-Aliassime or Yibing Wu as a junior for example.

Monte Carlo qualification
Mischa Zverev vs. Julian Ocleppo @3.35 Pinnacle 8/10
Zverev in horrendous form and shape. Looked horrible vs. Daniel in Marrakech. Clay was always his worst surface. Don't see him winning many matches next few weeks. Might cash out some bigger tournaments though and looking forward to grass court. I doubt you can make him a favorite right now vs any decent claycourt player out there. Ocleppo looking solid enough to take advantage of Zverevs bad form. Ocleppo once was a good prospect, beat guys like Auger-Aliassime or Yibing Wu as a junior for example.

Monte Carlo qualification
Mischa Zverev vs. Julian Ocleppo @3.35 Pinnacle 8/10
Zverev in horrendous form and shape. Looked horrible vs. Daniel in Marrakech. Clay was always his worst surface. Don't see him winning many matches next few weeks. Might cash out some bigger tournaments though and looking forward to grass court. I doubt you can make him a favorite right now vs any decent claycourt player out there. Ocleppo looking solid enough to take advantage of Zverevs bad form. Ocleppo once was a good prospect, beat guys like Auger-Aliassime or Yibing Wu as a junior for example.