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Posts posted by Villa Chris
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7.00 BeverleyÂ
Tropez Power 26 9/2 ( my odds 13/2)
Master Richard 23 5/1 ( my odds 8/1
Cliffcake 23 16/1 ( my odds 8/1)Â
2 points win CliffcakeÂ
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I’ll put this up for interest no value again but see how it does .Â
ÂIlikedwayurthinkin 28 5/4 ( my odds 9/2)
Cardamom Hill 27 7/2 ( my odds 5/1)
Wasdell Dundalk 24 7/1 ( my odds 6/1)Â
Wasdell borderline value and one of those horses I’ve taken a shine to for some unknown reason but see how the race pans out.  Hoping to find some value in the 7.00 Beverley .Â
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11 minutes ago, Villa Chris said:
Bit late but I’ll treat it as a test run for ratings as there no value . I did this earlier .Â
3.20 CartmelÂ
City Derby 31 7/2 ( my odds 9/2)
Starlyte 26 5/1 ( my odds 11/2)
Dalileo 24 15/2 ( my odds 6/1)Â
Dalileo is bordering value now , he wasn’t earlier but I’ll sit this one outÂ
City Derby clear  on ratings and won very comfortably in the end.Â
- justanotherpunter and Bedlam
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Bit late but I’ll treat it as a test run for ratings as there no value . I did this earlier .Â
3.20 CartmelÂ
City Derby 31 7/2 ( my odds 9/2)
Starlyte 26 5/1 ( my odds 11/2)
Dalileo 24 15/2 ( my odds 6/1)Â
Dalileo is bordering value now , he wasn’t earlier but I’ll sit this one outÂ
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Where’s this Michelle Obama horse running? ?
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7.20 WindsorÂ
Sixties Chic 31 11/2 ( my odds 8/1)
Nogos Dream 26 15/2 ( my odds 10/1)
Watchya 25 14/1 ( my odds 10/1)Â
Sixties Chic clear on ratings but Watchya offers the value bet .Â
Â2 points win WatchyaÂ
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Will post up in bit hopefully one from Cartmel and another from the flats tonight. If not Cartmel then both from tonight’s flat meetings. Have a good day all .
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Already I’m getting frustrated with the value bets 🤣 I’d probably be up backing top rated but it’s only small stakes and I’ll keep persisting until I’m confident I’m getting the odds wrong .Â
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58 minutes ago, Villa Chris said:
Quiet day really maybe should leave it alone as rated one race and not much wriggle room regarding odds but then I’ve just done the 3.25 at Stratford which is only a 7 horse race but offers some good prices.Â
ÂMatterhorn 25 Â 13/8 ( my odds 4/1)Â
In This World 23 7/4 (my odds 5/1)
Sir TiVo 11/1 23 11/1 ( my odds 5/1)
Cracking Destiny 23 18/1 ( my odds 5/1)Â
Tight affair and two hot favourites but I think it’s worth taking them on with the odds available so point win on both Sir TiVo and Cracking DestinyÂ
The two young guns finish first and second with the latter two nowhere and fallingÂ
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I’ll put the other up incase there’s a driftÂ
3.35 Newton Abbot
Mr Yeats 27 9/2 ( my odds 6/1)
Halifax 26 9/2 ( my odds 13/2)
Wavering Down 25 11/2 ( my odds 13/2)
All 3 are strong in the betting so a drift looks unlikely so no bet as it standsÂ
- Bronxie, Bedlam and richard-westwood
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Quiet day really maybe should leave it alone as rated one race and not much wriggle room regarding odds but then I’ve just done the 3.25 at Stratford which is only a 7 horse race but offers some good prices.Â
ÂMatterhorn 25 Â 13/8 ( my odds 4/1)Â
In This World 23 7/4 (my odds 5/1)
Sir TiVo 11/1 23 11/1 ( my odds 5/1)
Cracking Destiny 23 18/1 ( my odds 5/1)Â
Tight affair and two hot favourites but I think it’s worth taking them on with the odds available so point win on both Sir TiVo and Cracking DestinyÂ
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10 hours ago, Villa Chris said:
Cartmel 4.35Â
Hurricane Ali 23 10/1 ( my odds 9/1 10/1)
Sea The Clouds 22 8/1 ( my odds 10/1)Â
Lunar Power 22 16/1 ( my odds 10/1)Â
2 points win Lunar PowerÂ
Sea the clouds wins , Hurricane Ali just lost second but the value bet Lunar power nowhereÂ
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9 hours ago, Villa Chris said:
Ripon 3.55
Iron Lion 24 7/1 ( my odds 7/1)
Lord Protector 23 20/1 ( my odds 7/1)
Sea King 21 5/2 ( my odds 8/1)
L’Astronome 21 20/1 ( my odds 8/1)
Couple of surprises in here with Lord Protector and L’Astronome rating high. Will play both a point each as excellent valueÂ
Top rated won but Lord Protecter just didn’t stay this new trip
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6 hours ago, Villa Chris said:
Ripon 3.55
Iron Lion 24 7/1 ( my odds 7/1)
Lord Protector 23 20/1 ( my odds 7/1)
Sea King 21 5/2 ( my odds 8/1)
L’Astronome 21 20/1 ( my odds 8/1)
Couple of surprises in here with Lord Protector and L’Astronome rating high. Will play both a point each as excellent valueÂ
L’Astronome non runner so put the money on the now sole selection Lord Protector who is now 40/1Â
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Also rated the summer hurdle and summer plate at market Rasen and although there’s value in the prices the % of any given horse winning was low so I’ll leave them alone . The race above just about made it worth while in terms of % of horse winning .
- Bedlam and The Equaliser
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Cartmel 4.35Â
Hurricane Ali 23 10/1 ( my odds 9/1 10/1)
Sea The Clouds 22 8/1 ( my odds 10/1)Â
Lunar Power 22 16/1 ( my odds 10/1)Â
2 points win Lunar PowerÂ
- black rabbit, Bedlam, Bang on and 2 others
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Ripon 3.55
Iron Lion 24 7/1 ( my odds 7/1)
Lord Protector 23 20/1 ( my odds 7/1)
Sea King 21 5/2 ( my odds 8/1)
L’Astronome 21 20/1 ( my odds 8/1)
Couple of surprises in here with Lord Protector and L’Astronome rating high. Will play both a point each as excellent valueÂ
- The Equaliser, black rabbit, Bedlam and 1 other
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4 hours ago, Villa Chris said:
The race above doesn’t look like it’s going to represent any value so will be left alone . I’ll be playing my cards in the 7.55 at Pontefract  instead which offers some good value.Â
ÂDakota Gold 28 odds 10/1 (my odds 11/2)
Wen Moon 26 odds 3/1 ( my odds 13/2)
Hiya Maite 26 odds 16/1 ( my odds 13/2)Â
Dakota and Hiya Maite represent very good value so will play 1 point each .
Hiya Maite second . Two seconds today at 11/1 and 16/1 so close but not close enough. Wen Moon was third too for the ratings .Â
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11 minutes ago, harry_rag said:
Well I'd have been better making numbers up today! It is a reminder (as with my footy betting) that sometimes the conclusion is "no bet" after you've studied a game or race.Â
In particular, there's a difference between a race where the top 3 are clear of the field and post a big value number compared to a scenario like today where about 6 index points cover the top 7 and the value ratings are modest. If I'm going to carry on along similar lines I probably need to draw a line that selections need to get over to be a bet.
Wise words regarding what are considered strong bets and real worth while value . Because I’m notepad and paper I just pick two races I like the look of them rate them. Computerised would make it easier and give me more variety and races to look at.Â
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21 hours ago, Villa Chris said:
6.35 HamiltonÂ
Jordan Electrics 26 9/2 (my odds 13/2)
Silky Wilkie 24 11/1 (my odds 7/1)
Spangled Mac 23 13/2 ( my odds 7/1)
Silky Wilkie the value bet 2 points winÂ
Got the first two right with ratings but unfortunately the value bet Silky Wilkie beaten half a length by Jordan Electrics who’s having a great year so far.Â
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9 hours ago, Villa Chris said:
Newmarket 7.35Â
Abate 25 11/2 ( my odds 6/1)Â
Antiphon 23 9/2 ( my odds 7/1)
Capo Vaticano 21 7/2 ( my odds 8/1)
Regal Envoy 21 15/2 ( my odds 8/1)Â
 I’ll wait and see if any of them drift to my own odds . Abate and Regal Envoy are the likely two to drift to a betting price.Â
The race above doesn’t look like it’s going to represent any value so will be left alone . I’ll be playing my cards in the 7.55 at Pontefract  instead which offers some good value.Â
ÂDakota Gold 28 odds 10/1 (my odds 11/2)
Wen Moon 26 odds 3/1 ( my odds 13/2)
Hiya Maite 26 odds 16/1 ( my odds 13/2)Â
Dakota and Hiya Maite represent very good value so will play 1 point each .
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Newmarket 7.35Â
Abate 25 11/2 ( my odds 6/1)Â
Antiphon 23 9/2 ( my odds 7/1)
Capo Vaticano 21 7/2 ( my odds 8/1)
Regal Envoy 21 15/2 ( my odds 8/1)Â
 I’ll wait and see if any of them drift to my own odds . Abate and Regal Envoy are the likely two to drift to a betting price.Â
- Bedlam and black rabbit
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1 hour ago, richard-westwood said:
I've sat down and really given it a lot of thought .....you can rate a race and find value every time but if that doesn't go hand in hand with the horses actual chance to win then you'll always be running for a place and that's what seemed to be happening in my results ......so what I'm going to do is post the top 4 fully form rated .....then back the best value (nearest to their true price ) .....that way I should be getting form and value rather than just backing a value horseÂ
635 hamÂ
Tiriac. 303Â edge 0.47Â
Spangled Mac. 299 0.90
Manila Scouse. 292 0.82Â
First folio. 287 0.78Â
Fav is poor value .....the horse that seems to stand out is SPANGLED MAC who at 15/2 is almost his expected price so that's the bet Ew ..negative is he's had a long layoff (8monthes)...but that's offset by 5lb claim so I'll still play it ....1 PT Ew ...
Could make a case for Manila Scouse Ew but I'm trying to find a method for a very strong "placed" horse whilst keeping outlay down to maximise profitsÂ
That feels a better method and is still getting value ....
I’m doing my top 3 rated which includes form then seeing if I can get value. I’ll keep sticking with it at small stakes.Â
- black rabbit and Bedlam
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6.35 HamiltonÂ
Jordan Electrics 26 9/2 (my odds 13/2)
Silky Wilkie 24 11/1 (my odds 7/1)
Spangled Mac 23 13/2 ( my odds 7/1)
Silky Wilkie the value bet 2 points winÂ
- black rabbit, yossa6133, Bedlam and 1 other
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Top rated won again but you’d let him win at that priceÂ