ads25 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Soccer played more than Aussie Rules? is that right?? :unsure Yep, more people participate in playing soccer than they do football. Read that in the Herald Sun recently actually. When you think about it though it makes sense, Aussie rules is really only played by half the population while Soccer is played all over Australia. This is why the AFL should be very careful, while its hard to imagine soccer taking over as no.1 sport it any time soon, it certainly does have the potential. The way AFL is going (boring matches, interstate teams winning every year, problems with tv deals, etc) and the potential the A-League has, perhaps not this generation but the next generation of kids growing up could become soccer fans. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) I'd imagine that cricket would be our national sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffers Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) I'd imagine that cricket would be our national sport. Having now been in Australia for a total of five months, and having never been here before, I have to say it's hands down AFL that's the national sport. Of course everybody gets behind the cricket team, and everybody watches it. But the local sides, the county (or whatever it's called here) isn't anywhere near as popular as, for example the VFL. AFL gets 50,000 crowds a lot, and upto 80,000+. That cements the No.1 position for me :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads25 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) In terms of popularity AFL is number 1 for sure. In terms of International sport then cricket would be number 1 probably, and of course in terms of participation soccer is number 1. So quite a good variety there :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koi_saisei Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) AFL can, or I hope not, never become more boring than soccer >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TazaD Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) - Western Bulldogs have only won 1 of 8 Second Halfs But what a one it was, ay, Bjv! ;) lol! Looking seriously at; Crows win/Hawks +24.5 (1.93) ...probably a big play for me. Tigers +20.5 Kangas -6.5 Now...the bone I've been gnawing on...the highest score... ...Kangas 5.50, Crows 7.00, Melbourne 26.0 and Richmond 31.0...combine into about 2.52. Now, I know there's a number of ways to go about this...but I'm looking at it this way; I have 4 teams, effectively (if everything goes to plan, and no real reason why it shouldn't!) up against Essendon, at better than evens. Of course the down side is that is the Bombers do happen to kick a monster score they knock down 2 bets instead of one... ...still pondering...but might just give it a miss...stick to the single games. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagabund Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) A survey in Australia conducted some six months back (or maybe a year) concluded that swimming is the most popular sport in terms of participation. Now, some of you might say it's part of life as drinking VB. I spent some time on AFL's website and wiki about 18 months back and then didn't keep pace with it. I was particularly impressed with AFL's playoff system with second chance for top teams - that came out of suggestions from public!! Now for this week's footy: bet365 has Hawthorn + 8.5 (1.90) - can extra two points make a difference this time too ?(A couple of weeks back they had hawthorn +16.5 against Freo) ads25, I had a look at your link and NBL thread. Very impressive - to say the least. Can I send you an email about the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads25 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) ads25, I had a look at your link and NBL thread. Very impressive - to say the least. Can I send you an email about the same? Of course mate. Try [email protected] :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads25 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) ...Kangas 5.50, Crows 7.00, Melbourne 26.0 and Richmond 31.0...combine into about 2.52. Now, I know there's a number of ways to go about this...but I'm looking at it this way; I have 4 teams, effectively (if everything goes to plan, and no real reason why it shouldn't!) up against Essendon, at better than evens. What about one of these four teams in a High-Low double with St Kilda at TAB. Saints have scored the rounds lowest score twice in 8 games this year, and their performance last week left alot to be desired. They will take a seriously depleted team over to Fremantle on Friday night and its doubtful they will kick a bag. Kang-StK at $19 Adel-StK at $27 Melb-StK at $100 Rich-StK at $110 Definately some value there in my opinion :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crouch Potato Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) For some reason I can't explain, I fancied Geelong for the lowest score this weekend. Go figure! Some interesting(ish) stats to mull over: 5/13 At Aurora (involving Hawks) have gone Either team Under 15.5 2/3 At Aurora with Hawks v Weagles have gone Either team Under 15.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Not sure where you live vagabund but don't several OS TV networks have a weekly highlights or best game package? Bjv's table is best useful as is IMO. To display it in relation to current ladder position gives the best feel. Of course such a table will always be useless if we don't individually look deeper. I.e. Game was long time ago, team strength at time, team form at time, venue, etc. E.g. Geelong - at a glance the table tells us to take a deeper look. Soccer played more than Aussie Rules? is that right?? :unsure You have the gist of it Ash and good point. It is basically a guide to who has beaten who according to ladder position, and if you delve deeper as you say, then you may find something that can be of use. Combining it with your own thoughts on games it is just what it is, a useful tool that highlights a team's real performance. Digging a little deeper into the Bulldogs...Most pundits say they havn't played that well this season yet, yet they have beaten Cats, hawks and pies who are all above them on the ladder, and they have only lost to the Saints (who were playing well early) and the Crows and the Eagles, both in Top 8. So their form is pretty good to be honest, although I expect Sydney to beat them this week, especially after reading Taza's comments with Sydney, and how they should reduce the doggies inside 50's. They also have big injury cloud over Darcy and Johnson(50/50 to play) and Ryan Griffin will not play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Injury Update for all teams before Round 9 Adelaide Crows Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Rhett Biglands knee ACL Last season Next season Had a knee reconstruction after rupturing his ACL in the preliminary final 2006. Matthew Bode knee injury Rnd 6 Indefinite Diagnosis unclear. Brett Burton knee injury Rnd 8 Rnd 10 Will be rested after carrying a knee injury for most the season. Trent Hentschel knee ACL Last season Next season Severely dislocated his knee and required a full knee reconstruction. Will miss entire 2007 season. John Hinge hamstring strain Rnd 6 Rnd 9 Graham Johncock ankle sprain Rnd 2 Rnd 9 Likely to return this week. David Mackay hamstring strain Rnd 3 Rnd 9 Will resume in the SANFL. Andrew McIntyre ankle injury Rnd 6 Rnd 12 John Meesen knee injury Pre-season Rnd 12 Recovering from surgery. Jason Porplyzia knee injury Rnd 6 Rnd 9 Looks to be available. Brent Reilly ankle injury Rnd 5 Rnd 9 Expected to play. Mark Ricciuto back injury Pre-season Rnd 9 A chance of returning this week from a chronic back condition. James Sellar groin injury R4 training Rnd 9 Likely to play SANFL. Kurt Tippett shoulder injury Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Continued playing with heavy strapping and could be in doubt this week. Brisbane Lions Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Daniel Bradshaw knee ACL Preseason games Next season Injured playing a reserves practice match, scans afterwards confirmed ACL tear Anthony Corrie knee ACL Last season Indefinite On a modified training program and may return mid season at the earliest. Pat Garner knee ACL Last season Next season Has needed a revision ACL reconstruction and will miss 2007 as well. Chris Johnson foot injury R8 training Rnd 9 Test. Haydn Kiel hamstring strain Rnd 5 Rnd 10 Matthew Moody hamstring strain Rnd 5 Rnd 9 Test. Michael Rischitelli knee injury Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Test. Chris Scott hip cartilage injury Pre-season Indefinite Hoping to return after the mid season break. Sam Sheldon tibial fracture Rnd 6 Rnd 13 Recovering from a leg fracture. Cheynee Stiller ankle sprain Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Likely to play. Matt Tyler hamstring strain Rnd 8 Rnd 11 Carlton Blues Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Eddie Betts hamstring strain Rnd 8 Rnd 13 Grade 2 strain, likely to return after the mid season break.. Cameron Cloke shoulder dislocation R7 training Next pre-season Severely dislocated his shoulder and has undergone another shoulder reconstruction. Jake Edwards foot injury Rnd 6 Rnd 10 Heel injury. Brendan Fevola corked thigh Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Likely to be available. Shaun Grigg fractured collarbone Rnd 2 Rnd 12 Shaun Hampson diagnosis unknown Rnd 7 Rnd 9 Ryan Jackson hand fracture Rnd 5 Rnd 11 Dylan McLaren knee PCL Rnd 6 Rnd 15 Will miss up to 8 weeks. Jason Saddington ankle sprain Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Available. Nick Stevens neck disc injury Rnd 3 Next pre-season Stevens has had surgery for a prolapsed disc and ligament damage and will miss the remainder of the season. David Teague wrist injury Rnd 6 Rnd 13 Has a fracture and will miss 6 weeks. Simon Wiggins hamstring strain Rnd 5 Rnd 9 Available. Collingwood Magpies Player Injury Onset Estimated Return John Anthony neck injury Pre-season Next season Club doctors have advised him to return next season after injurying his neck in a preseason training collision. Nathan Buckley hamstring strain Pre-season Rnd 12 Has reinjured his hamstring in training and is unlikely to return before the mid season break. James Clement calf strain Rnd 6 Rnd 9 Has likely strained his calf and will miss 3 matches. Test this week. Chris Dawes knee injury Pre-season Indefinite May return after the mid season break. Chris Egan knee MCL Rnd 8 Rnd 19 Injued an MCL and PCL in the VFL and will 12 weeks but will not require surgery. Paul Licuria hamstring strain Rnd 4 Rnd 10 Appears to have a grade 2 hamstring injury. Ryan Lonie groin injury Rnd 2 Rnd 11 Return has been delayed. Sean Rusling shoulder dislocation Pre-season Indefinite Has had shoulder reconstruction for instability episode in pre-season Essendon Bombers Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Courtenay Dempsey hamstring strain Rnd 4 Rnd 9 Should be available. Scott Gumbleton hamstring strain Rnd 5 Rnd 11 Injured at training, grade 2 injury. Leroy Jetta groin strain Rnd 5 Rnd 11 Reinjured his groin after missing the ANZAC day match and playing in the VFL on the weekend. May have had a recurrence in rehabilitaiton. Andrew Lee shoulder injury Rnd 7 Rnd 10 Andrew Lovett knee MCL R8 training Rnd 13 Limped off the training track with a grade 2 MCL. Nathan Lovett-Murray groin strain Rnd 7 Rnd 10 Injured his groin on his return to the VFL and will likely miss a few weeks. Jay Neagle foot stress fracture Rnd 2 Rnd 12 Has been diagnosed with a stress fracture. Andrew Welsh hamstring strain Rnd 7 Rnd 10 Has had a recurrence which has been described as just tightness. Will likely miss a few games. Fremantle Dockers Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Andrew Browne hamstring strain Rnd 8 Rnd 13 Re-injured his hamstring in his return to WAFL and will miss 5 weeks. Josh Carr Suspension Rnd 8 Rnd 10 Ryley Dunn knee injury Rnd 4 Rnd 13 Injured playing in the WAFL. Jeff Farmer Suspension Preseason games Rnd 13 Club suspension until round 13. Paul Hasleby back injury R8 training Rnd 9 A late withdrawal and may be in doubt for round 9. Justin Longmuir knee cartilage damage Rnd 3 Indefinite Has been placed on the long term injury list as the club is struggling to manage his degenerative condition which has plagued him for two seasons now. Brock O'Brien hamstring strain Rnd 8 Rnd 11 Brett Peake fractured collarbone Rnd 2 Rnd 11 Has fractured a collarbone and will likely miss at least 6 weeks. Geelong Cats Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Paul Chapman hamstring strain Rnd 6 Rnd 9 A hamstring strain has been confirmed and a 2-3 week recovery is likely. Test this week. Nathan Djerrkura quadriceps strain Rnd 7 Rnd 10 Steven King knee meniscal tear R8 training Rnd 13 Has had an arthroscope and will miss 4-6 weeks. Tom Lonergan diagnosis unknown Last season Indefinite Has returned to training from having a kidney removed in a collision last season. Andrew Mackie knee injury Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Test. Joel Reynolds knee ACL Pre-season Next season Jarad Rooke groin injury Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Test. Hawthorn Hawks Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Max Bailey knee ACL Pre-season Next season Will miss the sesaon after undergoing a knee reconstruction Tim Clarke achilles tendonitis Rnd 2 Rnd 16 Has carried the injury for some time and will return in the second half of the season. Mark Williams knee meniscal tear R5 training Rnd 16 Has had an arthroscope for a meniscal tear and will miss up to 12 weeks. Kangaroos Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Leigh Harding knee ACL Last season Rnd 13 Recovering from a last 2006 season reconstruction Jonathan Hay medical illness Pre-season Retired Retired, reported to be due to depression. Daniel McConnell shoulder injury Rnd 8 Rnd 19 Unsure of exact diagnosis. Brad Moran medical illness R8 training Rnd 9 A late withdrawal from round 8 with an illness. Daniel Pratt rib cartilage Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Unsure of diagnosis or severity. Nathan Thompson knee ACL Preseason games Next season Ruptured his ACL and MCL in the final practice match of 2007. David Trotter hamstring strain Rnd 6 Rnd 9 Daniel Wells knee MCL Rnd 7 Rnd 13 A grade 2 strain and will likely miss 4-6 weeks. Melbourne Demons Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Clint Bartram knee meniscal tear R2 training Rnd 12 Has had an arthroscope for a complicated meniscal injury. Ryan Ferguson hand fracture Rnd 8 Rnd 13 Has a fractured thumb and has undergone surgery. Daniel Hayes Suspension Pre-season Indefinite Has been suspended from the club for failing to attend training sessions. Mark Jamar hamstring strain Rnd 6 Rnd 9 Test. Brock McLean foot injury Rnd 1 Rnd 9 Looks certain to return in round 9. Brent Moloney groin injury Rnd 7 Rnd 9 Has been troubled by groin problems since having surgery last year to correct osteitis pubis. Byron Pickett Suspension Rnd 7 Rnd 13 Club based suspension for being unable to attend a match due to alcohol. Jared Rivers back injury R7 training Rnd 9 Late withdrawal with a back injury. Has been plagued by back related hamstring injuries this season and it could possibly be a recurrence. Isaac Weetra wrist injury Rnd 5 Rnd 13 Port Adelaide Power Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Troy Chaplin foot injury Rnd 7 Rnd 9 Test. Jacob Surjan corked thigh R8 training Rnd 9 Test. Adam Thomson knee injury Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Test. Michael Wilson pectoral tendon tear Rnd 5 Rnd 11 Reported as a torn pectoral muscle. Some reports are saying he could be back in 8 weeks but that may be a best case scenario and there is a real chance it may end his season. Richmond Tigers Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Patrick Bowden corked hip Rnd 7 Rnd 10 Nathan Brown shin injury Pre-season Rnd 9 Has developed a hot spot in the leg he broke. Reported to be close to returning. Mark Coughlan knee ACL Last season Next pre-season Reinjured his knee and faces furtehr reconstructive surgery and will miss the entire season. Darren Gaspar diagnosis unknown Rnd 5 Retired Has retired as Richmond promote a youth policy. Ray Hall Suspension Pre-season Indefinite Still recovering from a hip injury but will face an additional 3 weeks on the sidelines for a club imposed suspension when he is available. Brent Hartigan foot injury Rnd 4 Rnd 9 Test. Chris Hyde back injury R8 training Rnd 9 A late withdrawl with back tightness and could be in doubt for round 9. Trent Knobel ankle injury Rnd 1 Rnd 11 An operation revealed problems with scar tissue and he will miss the first half of the season. Carl Peterson osteitis pubis Pre-season Rnd 11 Dean Polo shoulder dislocation Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Dislocated a previously injured shoulder but returned to the field. Is not expected to miss a match but will likely have surgery at the end of the season. Matthew Richardson fractured eye socket Rnd 8 Rnd 12 Injury is not as severe as first expected being only an undisplaced hairline fracture and broken nose, meaning he may return in 2-3 weeks. Troy Simmonds ankle sprain Rnd 6 Rnd 9 Test this week. St. Kilda Saints Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Jarryd Allen elbow dislocation Rnd 1 Rnd 13 Has been placed on the long term injury list. Matthew Clarke calf strain R7 training Rnd 9 Looks very likely to play this week. Xavier Clarke calf strain R8 training Rnd 11 A late withdrawal from round 8. Nick Dal Santo hamstring strain Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Had scans for hamstring tightness but is expected to play. Matthew Ferguson hamstring strain Rnd 7 Rnd 11 Michael Gardiner foot injury Rnd 3 Rnd 13 Unlikely to return before the mid season break. Fraser Gehrig ankle sprain Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Looks certain to play. Brendon Goddard knee ACL Rnd 7 Next pre-season Has ruptured an anterior cruciate ligament and will undergo a knee reconstruction. Jason Gram hamstring strain R8 training Rnd 9 A late withdrawal from round 8 with a back related hamsttring problem, test this week but in doubt. Aaron Hamill knee PCL Off-season Indefinite Has had further surgery after more damage was uncovered. Unclear when Hamill will return to competition. Lenny Hayes fractured collarbone Rnd 5 Rnd 9 Looks like returning early from surgery for a fractured collar bone. Clinton Jones fractured collarbone Rnd 7 Rnd 13 X-rays revealed a fracture collar bone and he will return after the mid season break. Matt Maguire foot stress fracture Rnd 1 Rnd 13 Is not recovering as quick as first hoped and looks unlikely to play before the split round. Leigh Montagna fractured jaw Rnd 8 Rnd 13 Nick Riewoldt hamstring strain Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Had scans for hamstring tightness but is expected to play. Andrew Thompson knee meniscal tear Rnd 5 Rnd 11 Will have an arthroscope and is likely to miss 4-6 weeks. Sydney Swans Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Craig Bolton hamstring strain Rnd 8 Rnd 9 Was forced from the field and must pass a fitness test to play this week. Daniel O'Keefe hamstring strain Rnd 6 Rnd 10 Lewis Roberts-Thomson foot stress fracture Last season Rnd 10 Has been placed on the long term injury list. West Coast Eagles Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Ben Cousins medical illness Pre-season Indefinite Eagles have stood him down indefinitely until he is clear from reported substance abuse. Andrew Embley knee meniscal tear Rnd 5 Rnd 12 Has had an arthroscope for a meniscal injury that was originally sustained earlier in the seaosn. Jaymie Graham knee MCL Rnd 6 Rnd 12 Daniel Kerr Suspension Rnd 8 Rnd 11 Suspended for 2 weeks at the AFL tribunal. Mark Nicoski shoulder dislocation Pre-season Rnd 11 Severely dislocated his shoulder in a preseason intraclub match and has had surgery to repair the damage. Ben Sharp ruptured finger tendon Rnd 5 Rnd 13 Has a tendon injury after hurting it on cut glass. Matthew Spangher fractured collarbone Rnd 5 Rnd 11 Will likely miss 6 weeks. Ashley Thornton knee ACL Pre-season Next season Sufferred a serious knee injury in an intra-club match. Western Bulldogs Player Injury Onset Estimated Return Chris Grant groin strain Preseason games Rnd 13 Has had surgery performed to remove bone spurs from his pubic symphysis for a groin injury that had had been troubling him in the preseason. Unlikely to return before the mid season break. Ryan Griffen hamstring strain R9 training Rnd 12 Strained a hamstring at training and will likely miss 2-3 weeks. Brad Johnson thigh injury R9 training Rnd 9 In doubt. Damien McCormack knee injury Rnd 2 Rnd 11 Unsure of diagnosis. Andrew McDougall thigh injury Rnd 6 Rnd 9 Test. Jordon McMahon thigh injury R9 training Rnd 10 Has been left out of round 9. If it is a strain he could possibily miss another 1-2 matches. Brett Montgomery neck injury Rnd 1 Indefinite Injury has been confirmed as a neck injury resulting from a collision in round 1. Bulddogs' aren't prepared to take a risk and a return is indefinite. Robert Murphy hamstring strain Rnd 6 Rnd 10 Injured the hamstring on the same side as the knee he had reconstructed. Will likely miss 2-3 matches. Cameron Wight back injury R9 training Rnd 9 In doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) You guys are making me interested in your national sport (I assume) more and more. It sounds a lot of fun and it seems more if it involves potential to make $$. How do I learn about the sport better? Any suggestions for books/websites? I am particularly interested in pursuing it from stats' point of view. Ads25, When will your computer generated predictions for this week come out? Can you share your method as Burntua Crisp or is it a secret recipe? Here are some AFL Stat's sites that are quite useful... http://www.footywire.com/ http://afl.allthestats.com/ http://www.finalsiren.com/Default.asp There are some good head to head guides and you can also go head to head via player or team. Has some stats on what players perform against opposing tems. Some good info in there for you to start with. You could do no worse than following the boys in here, especially Taza, Crisp, Ads and Ash, as they are very knowledgeable and are spot on when it comes to their tips. they don't always win of course, but they find many a winner, and if they all agree, then usually a certainty :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punto Banco Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) ... according 2 ads stats this is going 2 be a big weekend 4 1st 2 20's... these usually perform fairly good... usually I'll only pick a team that has total of over 25 4 the 1st against a team with less than 20... makes sense I think and I'll be playing this again with 6/8 meeting this criteria... perhaps leaving out the Saints but I fancy playing them Individually and In combination perhaps something like 3units each and 1/2 unit multis... watever we shall see... If i dont play the saints the 1st game 4 this is Saturday anyways....:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Round 9 Ins and Outs FREMANTLE v ST KILDA Friday, 6.40pm WST, Subiaco FREMANTLE In: Collard, Hasleby, Cook Out: Josh Carr (suspended), Paul Duffield, Walker EMG: Scott Thornton, Brett Peake, James Walker New: Clayton Collard (South Fremantle) Thoughts: Hazleby and Cook big ins, Carr will be a loss, Walker is suprise. ST KILDA In: Baker, Clarke, Hayes, McQualter Out: Leigh Montagna (jaw), Barry Brooks, Howard, Sweeney EMG: Brad Howard, Justin Sweeney, Fergus Watts Thoughts: Three big ins for the Saints, but they will miss Montagna, and Gram's run out of the backline on the open spaces of Subiaco ********** CARLTON v ADELAIDE Saturday, 2.10pm AEST, Telstra Dome CARLTON In: Anderson, Hartlett, Kennedy Out: Eddie Betts (hamstring), Jordan Russell, Young New: Adam Hartlett (West Adelaide) EMG: Jordan Bannister, Paul Bower, Ross Young Thoughts: Carlton are crap, wouldn't matter who was in or out. ADELAIDE In: Johncock, Reilly, Porplyzia Out: Richard Douglas (hamstring), Brett Burton (knee), Vince EMG: Kris Massie, Ken McGregor, Bernie VinceThoughts: Some great ins for the Crows but Brett Burton is a loss ********** HAWTHORN v WEST COAST Saturday, 2.10pm AEST, Aurora Stadium HAWTHORN No change EMG: Zac Dawson, Xavier Ellis, Danny Jacobs Thoughts: None at this time WEST COAST In: Armstrong Out: Daniel Kerr (suspended) EMG: Mitch Brown, Mark LeCras, Ben McKinley Thoughts: Kerr will be missed, and they gain a goal kicker ********** BRISBANE LIONS v COLLINGWOOD Saturday, 7.15pm AEST, Gabba BRISBANE In: Clark, Mills, Johnson, Sherman, Fixter Out: Marcus Allan, Begley, Roe, Brennan, Scott Harding EMG: Jason Roe, Jared Brennan, Colm Begley Thoughts: Some great inclusions for Brisbane with Johnson, Sherman and Fixter, will strentghen them no end. COLLINGWOOD In: Medhurst Out: Brad Dick EMG: Ben Davies, Guy Richards, Sam Iles Thoughts: Dick has been in for a while now he is out, bit stiff really but he hasn't been hard enough. Medhurst provides another avenue for goal, averaging nearly 3 goals a game with the Pies. ********** RICHMOND v ESSENDON Saturday, 7.40pm AEST, MCG RICHMOND In: Riewoldt Out: Jay Schulz New: Jack Riewoldt (Tassie Mariners) EMG: Kent Kingsley, Matthew White, Chris Hyde Thoughts: How well is Kingsley going? Can't get a game in this side. First game for jumpin Jack Rewoldt, cousin of FIGJAM from the Saints. ESSENDON No change EMG: Mark Bolton, Kepler Bradley, Tom Hislop Thoughts: Good sign with no change ********** WESTERN BULLDOGS v SYDNEY Sunday, 1.10pm AEST, Manuka Oval WESTERN BULLDOGS In: Faulkner, McDougall, Minson, Power, Robbins Out: Ryan Griffen (Hamstring), Jordan McMahon (Thigh) Thoughts: Two big outs for the Doggies but they have some handy inclusions SYDNEY In: Crouch, Grundy, Schmidt Out: None as yet Thoughts: Great last week ********** MELBOURNE v KANGAROOS Sunday, 2.10pm AEST, MCG MELBOURNE In: Frawley, McLean, Robertson, Bizzell, Holland, Johnson Out: Ryan Ferguson (broken thumb), Colin Sylvia (hamstring soreness), Matthew Whelan (foot) New: James Frawley (North Ballarat) Thoughts: Some great inclusions for the Demons in McLean and Robbo and they will be back to playing some decent footy KANGAROOS In: Archer, Hale, Lower Out: None as yet Thoughts: Archer is a welcome return ********** PORT ADELAIDE v GEELONG Sunday, 4.10pm CST, AAMI Stadium PORT ADELAIDE In: Boak, Deluca, Krakouer, Surjan Out: Josh Mahoney Thoughts: No one special returning, although Surjan is not a bad player. GEELONG In: Harley, Prismall, Hawkins, Mackie Out: David Johnson (calf) Thoughts: Johnson has been flying and will be a big loss. Harley will boost defence, but Geelong still missing Chapman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koi_saisei Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Funnily enough Richo was named in the side. I'd expect Kingsley to be a late inclusion. However, if thats true, then dropping shulz is ludicrous. Only two talls up forward, and one of those a first gamer. Time for another pounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punto Banco Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Thoughts: Carlton are crap, wouldn't matter who was in or out. ....Gold....:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagabund Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Thanks for the websites Beejayville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Thanks for the websites Beejayville Cheers :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURNTUA CRISP Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Score Predictor & My Tips(in Bold) Fremantle 104 St.Kilda 65 Carlton 74 Adelaide88 Hawthorn 87 West Coast 90 Richmond 54 Essendon 97 Brisbane 86 Collingwood 84 Scary, but true - St.Kilda is averaging a paltry 58 points per game away from Telstra Dome this season. - The Bombers have played 11 games at the MCG since the start of last season for the grand result of 1 win and a draw. However, their 1st quarters are the exact opposite, 9 winning 1st quarters, a tie and a lose. - Adelaide have won 8 out of their last 10 at Telstra Dome. Preview I cannot remember a team under such pressure to win at home as Fremantle. They are walking a tightrope and one slip up could prove fatal. I still have them making the finals but they must make a stand. They must win 4 of their next 5 games to entertain any thoughts of making the finals. Both midfields are slow and aren’t great at stoppages, but I can’t see the Saints having enough scoring opportunities to trouble the Dockers. The Crows were poor last week, but they don’t often play two bad games in a row and should have no trouble dispatching the Blues. Three terrific inclusions for Adelaide will boost their running power and they won’t miss Burton because he hasn’t fired a shot all season. The Blues depth is being tested now and they won’t score as heavily this week against a great defence. The game in Launceston will be won in the midfield. Hawthorn are at full strength as far as runners go, whilst the Eagles will be dependant on Judd, Braun, Stenglein and Priddis. If the Hawks can get 25 scoring shots, they will win, but I have too much respect for the Eagles defence. Lynch and Hansen will cause problems for the Hawks and should just get over the line. The Magpies get their chance to break their duck at Gabba against the Lions. They lost no respect by losing to the Dogs last week, but their conversion in front of goal is a huge concern. The Lions were appalling last week and are now too dependent Brown. The Magpies should be able to negate him and leave Brisbane with the 4 points. Suggested Bets ADELAIDE Line (-22.5) WESTCOAST Line (-6.5) Collingwood Win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) I honestly have no idea why but I took Peter Bell for top goalscorer tonight at 35.00. With not many points predicted I suppose I rationaled that guys like Gehrig and Pavlich wont get as many opportunities and so it'll be easier for a smokey to secure it with a 3-4 goal haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punto Banco Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Not much on 2night 4 me but will put in an interest bet... once again based on ads predictions... ... Ads predictions suggests that Quaters will be scored as follows: 1st: 42 2nd: 38 3rd: 51 4th: 43 ...and halves: 1st: 80 2nd: 94 ... and thats enough for me 2 put bets on each: 3units Freo/Saints 2nd 1/2 highest score @ 1.8 1unit Freo/Saints 3rd 1/4 highest score @ 3.5 Not saying ads predictions are always correct but with the evenish odds on offer I'll take it @ lowish stakes...:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Brisbane Home Record and Collingwood away record this season. Rd Team Score Versus Score Gnd Result Marg Opp Pos 1 Bris Lions 9.15 (69) vs Hawthorn 6.8 (44) Gabba WON 25 5 2 Bris Lions 15.12 (102) vs St Kilda 7.8 (50) Gabba WON 52 12 6 Bris Lions 17.18 (120) vs Fremantle 10.15 (75) Gabba WON 45 13 7 Bris Lions 9.15 (69) vs Adelaide 14.16 (100) Gabba Lost -31 4 Rd Team Score Versus Score Gnd Result Marg Opp Pos 2 Collingwood 11.9 (75) vs West Coast 12.15 (87) Sub Lost -12 1 6 Collingwood 11.20 (86) vs Adelaide 9.8 (62) AAMI WON 24 4 Brisbane beat the Hawks in Round 1 which was a crap game to say the least, and the other two teams they beat was Freo and Saints who win interstate about as much as Carlton win at home, hardly ever. Soon as Brisbane played a good side in Adelaide they were well beaten, they were also well beaten away last week by a handy side in Essendon. On the other hand, the Pies form has been excellent this season when away. They lost to the Eagles in Subiaco by 12 points, and beat Adelaide at the AAMI fortress by 4 goals. Lions have a few handy players back, and the Pies will no doubt feel the effect of playing at the Dome last week in a 4 quarter running fest, but anything around $2-00 for the Pies has to be value on their exposed form this season. only lost to the Eagles, Port, and the Dogs at the Dome, and the Dogs rarely lose there, plus the Pies certainly had their chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) I honestly have no idea why but I took Peter Bell for top goalscorer tonight at 35.00. With not many points predicted I suppose I rationaled that guys like Gehrig and Pavlich wont get as many opportunities and so it'll be easier for a smokey to secure it with a 3-4 goal haul. Subiaco is a pretty big ground Crouch and St Kilda won't be able to do what they did last week. Their defence is going to struggle to hold both Pavlich and Tarrant. I am having a crack at Tazza at $6-00 to be top goal scorer, he has played well this season and reckon tonight he is going to sizzle. Pavilch gets watched more, while tazza romas around to wherever he wants, and he is capable of having an impact the way he has been playing, and what better time to do it then at home against a depleted defence. :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejayville Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Fremantle Home and St Kilda Away form Rd Team Score Versus Score Gnd Result Marg Opp Pos 1 Fremantle 16.9 (105) vs Port Adel 19.7 (121) Sub Lost -16 2 3 Fremantle 11.4 (70) vs West Coast 14.17 (101) Sub Lost -31 1 5 Fremantle 7.16 (58) vs Adelaide 8.9 (57) Sub WON 1 4 7 Fremantle 14.12 (96) vs Hawthorn 11.14 (80) Sub WON 16 5 2 St Kilda 7.8 (50) vs Bris Lions 15.12 (102) Gabba Lost -52 11 5 St Kilda 6.7 (43) vs Port Adel 14.12 (96) AAMI Lost -53 2 Fremantle have lost to the two top teams at home by less than 5 goals, while beating the 4th and 5th team. St Kilda has been belted away by over 50 points both times. Form, facts and figures point to this being an over 39.5 points job tonight for the home team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtee Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) I honestly have no idea why but I took Peter Bell for top goalscorer tonight at 35.00. With not many points predicted I suppose I rationaled that guys like Gehrig and Pavlich wont get as many opportunities and so it'll be easier for a smokey to secure it with a 3-4 goal haul.Nice punting Oscar - got a piece of it anyway :clap. Big ground but shame Saints whimped out of flooding - spoiled a fair dinkum contest. Got the HT/FT home as well as Monfills over our boy Leyton at 4.04 If he's gunna lose, may as well make a few dollars out of it. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Nice punting Oscar - got a piece of it anyway :clap. Big ground but shame Saints whimped out of flooding - spoiled a fair dinkum contest. Got the HT/FT home as well as Monfills over our boy Leyton at 4.04 If he's gunna lose, may as well make a few dollars out of it. :D Cheers mate. I'll give you partial credit for prompting me to look for value rather than taking a soft option like Pavlich :ok Tomorrow I note the Crows are $2.20 to reach 25 in the first qtr before Carlton. 3 of the last 4 H2H has seen the Crows achieve this (other time nobody reached 25 in 1st qtr). Also the Blues seem abysmal so I'm thinking that this bet is slightly on the wrong side of evens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtee Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) I was barracking in the end for him to get forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TazaD Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re: AFL Football - Round 9 (May 25th - 27th) Form, facts and figures point to this being an over 39.5 points job tonight for the home team. Indeedy-do... ...hope you laid money on said bet, Bjv :ok I got under 185.5 @ 1.50 on BF!! Haven't seen the game...just got home...thought it was easy money....but now I see 6.19 for the Saints?! :eek Will try to catch a replay, but now have the feeling I was more than a little lucky. :$ Anyway...have played what I said I would...Hawks +24.5/Crows...tried all sorts of different angles and really can't see either losing...both at genuinely good prices. I can't remember who it said that Kerr out won't hurt much...but in blustery, slippery conditions, the number 1 clearance man in the AFL will be missed... ...not only for his own good work, but it compounds, now that Hawthorn don't really have to choose a player to shut down. Judd gets the FULL attention on Sewell plus others...still got Pridiss who goes well, but Fletcher? Na...more of a receiver. Already mentioned that Eagles I50's away from home are terrible. Hawks good defensively and should stay in this game all the way... ...not sure what kind of total we'll get, but I'll be prepared to go under 180...highly unlikely tho, esp. given the weather. Crows play Carlton.... Got Richmond +22.5. Like it alot. Only lost 5 of their last 10 at the 'G by more...West Coast, St.K, Coll, Dogs, WC... Essendon won only 1 game there in last 10, by 13...lost to Carlton this year...Hawks and Collingwood convincingly... ...sorry, repeating myself I know, but outside the Dons are crap. Will be a close game. Kingsley in for Richo for sure...maybe even an upgrade... ...Riewoldt goes well...well, obviously bit early to say at AFL level, but played well down here in Tassie and was probably the 2nd stand out player in the under 18 Champs for Tassie behind Mitchell Thorpe. Quite the opposite to Koi, I think it's a good move. Both will be FAR to agile for big Mal...they will get plenty of oppertunities, so I do hope hey convert. I've tipped them to win...think the 22 is a bonus... Got Kangas -5.5. McLean not making the final team is a good thing...no-one else really scares me. Archer back...can't see any reason at all how Frawley, Bizzel, Holland or Robertson could possibly upgrade the worst midfield in the AFL! Too many chances for the high scoring Roos to highly score. ;) Only other game will be Collingwood @ Brisbane....love Bjv's over-optimism!! :lol ... ...(I did tip them! :wall )...but looking for a total of around the 180 mark for an under, which is pretty conceivable. (Bjv even throwing his money on EX-Magpie players!!! :lol) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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