2007 world snooker championship.

[hawker27]

just wondering who fanceys who to lift the title?,it kicks off on saturday. i see no value in ronnie @ 3/1 am going to go with doherty @ 18/1 also young neil robertson is @ 16/1. peter ebdon is 10/1 all prices from paddypower,still not sure on who to go for yet ding,doherty,ebdon,robertson one of these i reckon could go all the way.

[mullet1984]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. This looks like its going to be a tight tournament I would wait and pick of the value as the games unfold as no early value. In addition you left out one name, Judd Trump. Backed in from 200-1 to 50-1 and if/when he wins his 1st round match has the winner of Davis/Parrot so basically a bye into the next round.

[hawker27]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. judd trump never heard of him m8,can you enlighten some more on him.

[Charlie Wong]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. i've taken 10/3 on Ronnie, might have an each-way on Robertson too.

[WoodyTHFC]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. I will come back later in the week but initial thoughts are that the top half of the draw and in particular the second quarter looks tougher than any other part of the draw. O'Sullivan, Ding, Robertson, Day, Higgins are all in the same quarter. Given that I may look at the bottom half and of the draw and Murphy looks to have a fair draw and although badly out of form I always like Stevens at the Crucible.

[Charlie Wong]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. just looked into this a bit more, the last couple of winners Dott 80/1 Murphy 150/1

[Cosmetic Bob]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. I think GRAEME DOTT should be single figured price. 2004 runner-up, 2006 champion and winner recently in China Open. So underrated. Look at the players in his quarter, he should easily beat McCulloch in 1st round. In 2nd round either Hamilton or Fu, both are way past their best. Then their is Williams who to be honest looks finished these days and Maguire isn't in great form. Then onto the semis, well Dott has beaten all of these before and will be very confident of having beat O'Sullivan in China recently. I think the Masters may have left a mental scar on Ding, he has played so badly since. I'm not quite sure about the bottom half, its usual now for all the big players to get beaten by the youngsters, and they just have a habit of making big surprise of getting to finals this season. So i suppose in the bottom half, Carter, Trump, Selby are very capable of going deep into the draw and I may have outrights on all three. Look at last two champs, never won a ranking event before and provided massive shocks. I'll post my thoughts/bets probably friday.

[mullet1984]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Before the tournament starts i have to say the following I hate the new set up the crucible. it just looks like any other ranking event. Please bring back the globes, they make the crucible what it is. Judd Trump Profile from sportinglife. Judd Trump follows in the illustrious footsteps of Stephen Hendry and Ronnie O'Sullivan by qualifying for the final stages of the World Championship at 17. The Bristol-born potter's 10-5 win over former world number three James Wattana in the final qualifying round confirmed his remarkable rise to prominence. In 2003 he became the youngest-ever winner of the Pontin's Open while the following year, at just 14 years and 208 days, he broke O'Sullivan's record to become the youngest player to make a 147 break in a competitive tournament. Prior to beating Wattana, Trump had seen off Jamie Cope, Shokat Ali and Bradley Jones. However, he admitted last season: "The standard is so high on the Tour and it has taken me a while to get used to it. But I've worked hard on my safety game and that has helped me to get the results." Trump faces a daunting challenge in the first round against world champion Shaun Murphy. With the pressure off, though, Trump will fancy his chances of causing an upset.

[kevshat]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Can't be having all this cash on Judd Trump. Has to be his old man backing him! He's a country mile too young to win this thing. 17 years old. Not a chance. This is a marathon. A 17 day marathon. No kid is likely to win this. I don't care how good he's likely to be (and I've no doubt he'll be top notch). Ding was a ranking event winner not long after 17 and it's taken him until now just to qualify. Judd Trump is good but I have my doubts as to whether he'll ever be up to Ding's standards.

[mullet1984]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Trump can win it. Its a long shot as he s got to get past Murphy and there s been some money for Murphy today for some reason. I don't think you can rule someone out because its a marathon. What he may lack in experience he will certainly make up for in stamina. These kids get more and more talented at younger ages these days.

[kevshat]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship.

Trump can win it. Its a long shot as he s got to get past Murphy and there s been some money for Murphy today for some reason. I don't think you can rule someone out because its a marathon. What he may lack in experience he will certainly make up for in stamina. These kids get more and more talented at younger ages these days.

He may well win it in the future for sure but he isn't going to win it this year and at 66/1 he's a terrible bet to boot. You very rarely get a 1st time at the Crucible winner let alone a 17 year old one. And him being young is bad in terms of stamina not good, he'll never have played 17 days of intense snooker before. They can all play snooker and are all physically strong enough to play 17 days snooker but not many are mentally strong enough and Trump definitely won't be mentally strong enough. I'll post my thoughts for the tournament in terms of bets up later but had to express my thoughts on this Trump gamble.

[mowgli77]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship.

Sport	Snooker/Pool
Event	Snooker World Championship 2007
Selection	Peter Ebdon (Each-Way)
Strength	3/10
Date	07/05/2007
Bookmaker/Price	>Betfred @ 15.00 (Back)
Reasoning	I can see a Ronnie V Ebdon final if all goes to plan and Ebdon is a master at grinding out victories with slowing tactics but he is also a great snooker player which people often don't give him enough credit for and has a top class safety game. Will probably have to beat Nigel Bond, Steven Lee and Stephen Hendry on the way but he gets better as the tournament progresses and if there is no early shock I can see him being there for the final.

Sport	Snooker/Pool
Event	World Snooker Championship 2007
Selection	Neil Robertson (Each-Way)
Strength	2/10
Date	07/05/2007
Bookmaker/Price	Premierbet @ 19.00 (Back)
Reasoning	2nd round will probably be the key game as he is likely to meet Ronnie O Sullivan but he is one of the likely stars of the future and if getting past Ronnie he could go all the way. Certainly won't have an easy draw with players like Dott, Williams and Higgins in the top half but he has caught my eye a few times and could have enough improvement and potential to be a champion.

Seems a few fancy Robertson :hope I think if Ronnie's head is right there will be no one to beat him but at 3-1 I don't see much value. I can see a Ronnie V Ebdon final but i'm sure there will be a few shocks along the way.

[kevshat]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Good luck Mowgli :ok

Best odds/All odds O'Sullivan, R 4 4 4 4.3 3.75 4 4.33 3.75 4 4.3 4 4 4.33 4 4.5 4.33 4 3.75 3.75 4.5 4.4 4.4 Hendry, S 10 10 9 11.5 11 10 11 11 11 10 11 11 11 10 10 10 10 11 10 12.5 13 11.5 Murphy, S 10 9 10 10.5 9 9 10 12 9 10 10 11 10 9 10 11 10 9 10 11.5 12 11.5 Junhui, D 9 10 10 12.5 13 10 8 12 11 10 13 13 10 10 12 10 13 11 9 13.5 13.5 14 Higgins, J 11 10 15 13 15 10 11 12 11 10 11 13 11 10 12 10 11 13 9 14 14 12.5 Dott, G 15 13 13 14 13 13 13 13 15 15 13 13 15 11 13 13 15 13 15 15 14.5 14 Ebdon, P 12 13 13 13.5 15 13 13 12 11 15 11 11 13 11 13 13 13 11 12 14 15 13 Robertson, N 17 17 17 16.5 17 17 15 15 15 17 15 17 19 15 17 15 17 17 15 18 19 15.5 Doherty 21 21 19 19 21 21 21 17 19 19 21 19 19 21 23 21 17 21 21 21 22 21 Stevens, M 19 21 21 22 21 21 17 17 23 21 21 19 19 21 19 17 17 17 17 24 23 22 Maguire, S 19 17 23 24 26 17 21 21 21 26 26 23 23 15 23 17 17 15 26 27 28 26 Williams, M 29 29 21 31 34 29 26 26 29 29 34 34 26 29 36 34 26 34 26 35 36 40 Selby, M 34 34 34 38 26 34 34 34 34 41 26 34 34 26 26 41 34 34 41 44 46 27 Day, R 41 41 41 52 41 41 34 41 51 51 41 41 51 41 41 34 41 51 41 62 65 40 Trump, J 67 51 67 54 51 51 51 41 51 67 51 51 41 67 41 51 51 41 67 64 65 60 Carter, A 51 51 67 72 51 51 67 67 51 67 41 67 51 67 67 67 67 67 67 90 85 44 Hawkins, B 67 67 51 62 81 67 67 51 51 67 51 81 67 81 41 67 67 81 41 76 80 55 Fu, M 51 51 81 68 51 51 67 51 67 81 41 67 51 51 41 41 51 51 81 84 80 50 Lee, S 51 51 67 72 51 51 51 67 67 67 51 67 81 67 81 51 51 41 51 90 95 48 Allen, M 67 67 81 72 81 67 67 81 81 81 81 67 67 67 101 81 51 51 67 90 110 100 Perry, J 81 81 67 98 81 81 67 81 81 67 81 81 81 101 81 101 67 81 67 124 120 70 Davis, S 126 101 101 118 101 101 126 101 101 151 101 101 101 151 67 151 101 101 101 148 140 100 McCulloch, I 101 81 101 120 101 81 101 126 101 126 101 126 81 101 151 101 101 126 101 160 180 110 Swail, J 126 101 151 146 126 101 101 126 101 151 126 126 126 151 126 126 126 126 126 196 210 140 Hamilton, A 126 126 101 138 126 126 126 126 101 151 151 201 101 101 126 151 101 201 151 186 190 160 Holt, M 151 151 151 205 151 151 151 201 151 151 201 151 126 176 201 151 201 151 126 275 280 - O'Brien, F 201 151 251 230 201 151 201 201 201 151 201 251 151 301 251 151 201 201 126 320 350 - Hicks, A 151 151 201 270 201 151 126 331 151 151 201 151 151 401 251 151 126 151 151 375 470 - Bond, N 201 251 251 285 201 251 201 251 151 201 301 401 201 501 401 251 201 251 201 395 480 - Gilbert, D 251 301 301 280 301 301 251 331 301 251 301 251 201 301 351 351 251 501 301 385 490 - Delaney, J 301 301 501 345 251 301 251 401 201 501 301 401 401 751 601 301 251 251 501 535 510 - Parrott, J 251 401 351 410 501 401 301 401 301 751 501 401 301 751 601 501 301 751 501 635 710 - Each-way terms: 4 at 1/4 2 at 1/2 4 at 1/4 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2

2 for me outright. 3pts ew S.Murphy to win World Championships 10/1 Stan James (1/2 1,2) Shaun Murphy showed the world his qualities 2 years ago where he beat all before him and he comes here a better player this year. This season he won his 2nd ranking event title when he took the Malta Cup in fine style. He hasn't got a tricky draw either and I think he's the man to beat. He looks a quarter finalist all ends up with his only challengers up to that stage being Judd Trump and the winner of the David vs Parrott match. A potential quarter final against maybe Doherty or Stevens doesn't look all that daunting and as I always say in these things once you are in a semi final it's anyones. Murphy will be a multi world champion I've no doubt about that and I can see him notching up number 2 on Bank Holiday Monday. 1pt ew B.Hawkins to win World Championships 80/1 Betfred (1/2 1,2) Barry Hawkins propelled himself into the top 16 for this season but hasn't really taken advantage of the privilege. Considering his talents this season would have to be described as an ordinary one but there's been signs of life recently. A semi final in the China Open where he was edged out narrowly 6-5 by Jamie Cope followed a run to the final of the Irish Invitational where he met an O'Sullivan who blitzed him by playing his briliant best. He's not got an easy draw but that's why he's 80/1 but he has got the talent, he'll be keen to make an impact at the Crucible after getting walloped 10-1 by Ken Doherty and I reckon he's a live outsider.

[mabell]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Whats the deal with Mark Williams this year? Looking at the odds he is clearly a rank outsider but as I dont keep up with it during the year, I dont know why? Has he broken both his arms or something?

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Wouldnt mind a few pinions from those more knowledgable. Theres a few bets that caught my eye. 6 or more century breaks between O'Sullivan and Ding @ 14/1 Both capable of putting together a few centuries. Also, you can back the black ball as the first colour to be potted in most games @ 11/8. Wonder if anyone could help on stats for this?

[mowgli77]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship.

Can't be having all this cash on Judd Trump. Has to be his old man backing him! He's a country mile too young to win this thing. 17 years old. Not a chance. This is a marathon. A 17 day marathon. No kid is likely to win this. I don't care how good he's likely to be (and I've no doubt he'll be top notch). Ding was a ranking event winner not long after 17 and it's taken him until now just to qualify. Judd Trump is good but I have my doubts as to whether he'll ever be up to Ding's standards.

Got to agree with Kev. :ok One of our local lads who Paul Ross knows used to play in our local club. I thought he was fantastic and watched him knock in a 133 break. (Craig Butler) He won the English Amateur Championships but has done nothing as a professional, that in itself is a step up so for this Trump fella to go into a World Championship as an inexperienced player and get through 2 weeks of gruelling snooker under the gaze of the cameras is asking too much. Best of luck to him, I hope he proves me wrong but I won't be putting cash on him... ...And having a champion called Judd Trump is just wrong :loon I can see the back page of The Sun now: "TRUMP BLOWS AWAY OPPOSITION" ;)

[mullet1984]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Haha thats brilliant. I hope they manage to slip that headline in somewhere. I was more saying 1 ) keep an eye out for him 2) winner of this match has a bye in to last eight, perhaps hence why Murphy has been backed into 10's in the last week. I have had sprinkles of ante post but the prices have contracted so i wont post old bets up. Think 5/1 ronnie to have top break(skybet) and ding/ronnie match to have highest 1st round break at 9/2 (betdirect) are decent bets. These two are capable of smashing in a big break from the off. In addition they must produce from the off, although its 19 frame, each frame is vital. 2 pts ding/ronnie match to have highest 1st round break at 9/2 (betdirect)

[WoodyTHFC]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Two for me. Stevens e.w. In truth he comes into this event in poor form and needs a very good week to be in the top 16 next year. However he has always played better in the longer format matches and his record at the Crucible includes two near misses in finals and countless semis. He should get past his first match before it starts to get tough but I fancy he may just have another strong tournament at Sheffield. Carter e.w. Has been one of the promising young players who possibly has not quite fulfilled his potential yet. Made it into the top 16 last year but just beneath it this year so needs a good week. He is starting to show some form in last couple of tournaments and even though he may meet Hendry in round 2 he does have a fairly good record against him including a recent victory at the Welsh Open. Fair price overall and good possibilities perhaps to win quarter 4.

[2hcb]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Nothing special going on here I'm afraid but I can't resist. 10/3 is very big odds for a man who is perhaps the best player ever to win a tournament with basically no other credible opponents. He was supreme in winning the Masters this year and if he holds together mentally he will win. The man I'm talking about is of course Ronnie O'Sullivan @ 10/3 (Stan James)

[thecitygentuk]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. People seem to keep forgetting Stephen Hendry. In the bottom half of the draw with really only Peter Ebdon for company. A decent bet.

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship.

Think 5/1 ronnie to have top break(skybet) and ding/ronnie match to have highest 1st round break at 9/2 (betdirect) are decent bets. These two are capable of smashing in a big break from the off. In addition they must produce from the off, although its 19 frame, each frame is vital. 2 pts ding/ronnie match to have highest 1st round break at 9/2 (betdirect)

Going on this, would you say the 14/1 for 6 or more centuries in the game is a good bet?

[gerrie26681]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Couple of first round matches have caught my eye. First up tomorrow is rocket ronnie o sullivan. With the worst 1st round draw with junhui and all the suggestions by ronnie over a fix in the draw I feel that ronnie is gonna take this match very seriously and look to give junhui a bloody good hammering. Sure it will be a tough match but all in all i think o'sullivan at 1.52 is good enough odds for me and i'll be backing ronnie to win the match. Monday I fancy Ken Doherty to have too much experience and guile for Allen. Thought the odds would be around 2/7 for this match and therefore the 1.40 available on Doherty is too good to turn up so i'll be on Doherty as well. Some people here have been talking about Trump doing well but to be honest I think drawing Shaun Murphy wasnt the best for him. Murphy does really enjoy playing at the Crucible and I feel that he will have too much of everything for Trump to triumph. Murphy would need to be serious off and i feel his safety play will swing the balance strongly in his favour. 1.41 will do me nicely. Other reviews later, but I think Williams is a massive price on Tuesday morning at 8/11 to beat Joe Swail. I would imagine there will be a very sizeable bet on Williams at these odds.

[kevshat]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship.

Going on this' date=' would you say the 14/1 for 6 or more centuries in the game is a good bet?[/quote'] They met in the final of the Masters mate and there were 5 centuries (4-1 to O'Sullivan) and O'Sullivan won that match 10-3, naturally matches at the Crucible are tighter so you'd expect this one to last longer but to counteract that neither will have played a competitive match for a month or so. Both should be good for a couple of centuries you'd think but 6 might be pushing it a bit however at 14/1, it's got a chance I guess although I'd favour 3-4 tbh. As for the other question, a lot of the time the 1st red is potted via a long pot which is usually difficult to hold for the black, most tend to have safety in mind and attempt to pot the red and go back up for green, yellow, or brown so they'd be my favoured choice.

[kevshat]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. 10pts R.O'Sullivan vs D.Junhui - 3 or more centuries 5/4 Sporting Odds These two met recently in the Masters final and chalked up 5 centuries in a best of 19 frame match which only lasted 13 frames. There's simply too much quality in both their cues for us not to see 3 century breaks here. Ding is as fluent a scorer as you'll find and they don't come any better than O'Sullivan. This match is sure to be fairly close, they are so good they should match each other and I can also see it being full of quality as the winner of the match has a tough route to the trophy and will want to stick an early marker down. I'm confident we'll get at least 3 centuries.

[kevshat]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Just one for tomorrow from a market that has served me well in the past. 10pts S.Maguire vs J.Perry - Over 16 Frames 10/11 Bet365 Both of these players are decent match players and Perry seems to thrive over the longer matches as his record in the UK Championships and World Championships would suggest. Stephen Maguire is no mug in these longer frame matches either but I don't really think there's much between them. On his top form Maguire is much better but we don't always see that form. Crucible nerves and what the match means (world championships, ranking points etc etc) could well dictate a close match and with 10-7 or closer either way seeing us safe I think the overs looks a good bet here.

[RussP]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Shaun Murphy to beat Judd Trump +3.5 frames @ 2.1 Betfair Judd Trump is clearly a serious talent, but massively overhyped for his debut here. Murphy is a former winner, and loves it here and I believe he will win comfortably. The pressure may just be too much for the youngster.

[2hcb]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Ronnie 8-1 up on Ding, didn't see that coming it just shows how different the crucible is to any other match.

[gerrie26681]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. Have to agree with RussP and would draw attend to people that a Shaun Murphy, Ken Doherty double is available at 1.96 on the exchanges!

[2hcb]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. good call gerrie. We saw today how playing at the crucible threw Ding right off his game and I'd expect Trump to struggle against a former champion like Murphy on his debut aswell. Doherty is a 'crucible player' he's solid and difficult to get rid of, he doesn't have that many off days or brilliant days but to beat him you have to be top class throughout and I don't think Allen has that class. Shaun Murphy & Ken Doherty @ 1.87 (Stan James)

[studavis]

Re: 2007 world snooker championship. I normally avoid the first round matches, i always find that there is a massive bedding in period at the Crucible - and everything I have seen so far in the past few days has confirmed this, but just looking through the odds for some nice value one match stands out. Mark Selby vs Stephen Lee. The value is definitely on Lee here, a few places offering 5/4. These are two very different players, Selby being a more exciting attacking player, and his participation as a great 8 ball player shows the sort of snooker he plays. He can beat good players on his day, but I think the longer sessions and the gravitas of the occasion means that Stephen Lee, an absolute stalwart of break building and big tournaments means that IMO he can edge out the flashier and less proven Selby. 2pts Stepehn Lee to beat Mark Selbey at 5/4 with Stan James