UK Snooker Championships

[Sir Puntalot]

Monday 5 December 2005
	Player 1	Player 2	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="middle">BPP
Burnett v McCulloch (10:00 GMT)	3.50	1.40	100%	Related markets...Match Result- - -Match ResultFirst Frame
Carter v Cope (10:00 GMT)	1.66	2.40	102%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
Dale v Pinches (10:00 GMT)	2.25	1.73	103%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
Fu v Judge (10:00 GMT)	2.20	1.85	100%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
Greene v Hann (10:00 GMT)	1.45	3.00	103%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreFirst 4 FramesFirst 4 Frames ScoreFirst FrameHighest Break In MatchTotal Frames
Bingham v Milkins (14:30 GMT)	1.58	2.75	100%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
Davis v Parrott (14:30 GMT)	1.83	2.20	100%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch Result- - -Correct ScoreFirst 4 FramesFirst 4 Frames ScoreFirst FrameHighest Break In MatchTotal Frames
Hamilton v Junhui (14:30 GMT)	2.90	1.53	100%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreFirst 4 FramesFirst 4 Frames ScoreFirst FrameHighest Break In MatchTotal Frames
Hawkins v Pettman (14:30 GMT)	1.33	3.80	102%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
McLeod v Robertson (14:30 GMT)	3.40	1.44	99%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreFirst 4 FramesFirst 4 Frames ScoreFirst FrameHighest Break In MatchTotal Frames
Tuesday 6 December 2005
	Player 1	Player 2	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="middle">BPP
Allen v Gray (10:00 GMT)	2.05	1.92	101%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
Day v King (10:00 GMT)	1.83	2.20	101%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
Henry v Wattana (10:00 GMT)	1.85	2.12	102%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch Result- - -Correct ScoreTotal Frames
Hicks v Swail (10:00 GMT)	2.62	1.60	101%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreFirst 4 FramesFirst 4 Frames ScoreFirst FrameHighest Break In MatchTotal Frames
Holt v Walden (10:00 GMT)	2.00	1.95	102%	Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultHandicap Result- - -Correct ScoreFirst 4 FramesFirst 4 Frames ScoreFirst FrameHighest Break In MatchTotal Frames
Wednesday 7 December 2005
	Player 1	Player 2	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="middle">BPP
Bond v Harold (10:00 GMT)	2.28	1.74	102%

[Tulenos]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Any plays, Paul or anybody?;)

[russnuss]

Re: UK Snooker Championships I hear Cope to beat Carter has been quite popular, not too sure though don't know too much about snooker to be honest and can't see any 2.62 available now, best priced at 2.5 to my reckoning, is there anybody in the know who may be able to shed some light on this?:hope

[Sir Puntalot]

Re: UK Snooker Championships I'll come back to this over the weekend. ;)

[russnuss]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Cheers mate:ok

[Sir Puntalot]

Re: UK Snooker Championships To be honest, these Monday matches looked very tight to me at first glance and they still do. I feel the bookies have them priced up amazingly well and there are so many question marks against certain players and inconsistency form wise. The only real value I can see is Rory Mcleod to beat Neil Robertson. Rory is playing very well at present, but Robertson is a tough draw, 3.40 is overpriced but probably not by too much. No bets for me Monday and I have updated the prices above. ;)

[Sir Puntalot]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Cope is playing very well Russ, but this is very much factored into the price as Carter would have been 1.30 to beat him before the start of this season. :ok

[davidmphill]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Well Quentin Hann won't be winning, he failed to turn up today due to 'medical reasons'!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/snooker/4499386.stm

[aliando]

Re: UK Snooker Championships When is the final?

[Sir Puntalot]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Sunday 18 December - 3pm & 8pm: FINAL :ok

[aliando]

Re: UK Snooker Championships

Sunday 18 December - 3pm & 8pm: FINAL :ok

cheers mate!:ok

[Paul]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Currently it's A.Hamilton 3-5 D.Junhui I'm going to have a small nibble at Gamebookers' Hamilton @ 5.30. He's only 2 frames behind, he's experienced, and he's a decent player. Of course, he'll probably lose the remaining frames now.....:\.

[Sir Puntalot]

Re: UK Snooker Championships That's a decent bet imo Paul, Hamilton is in the all time top 5 break builders, and not because he paid to get in there. ;) I'll try to get some thoughts on here about later matches, just a bit busy at the mo. :)

[LockStockLad]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Morning, Hamilton is capable of turning over a 5 - 3 deficit against Ding, was also thinking he was overpriced and have already layed Ding at 1.13 on Betfair. Just a general observation I made at the start of this tourney. Bookies have grasped onto the fact that a few players in particular are threatening to join the elite. A few names are starting to realise there potential which is no shock to those who are knowledgeable on the sport. Paul for example would oalways have a dabble on Hawkins/MaGuire a few seasons ago at long odds - now they are knocking on the door regularly. Still, we can use this to good effect in my opinion - just in a reverse effect. Hawkins and Robertson were big odds on shouts for there first round matches at the UK. Now people might disagree with me but although id pick them both to win id rather oppose them in the betting. Anyone who layed Hawkins at 1.3 before the off would be more than pleased with a 4-4 scoreline now. And anyone who did the same with Robertson @ 1.5 ish would also fancy a run for there money. Basically, great players that they are - they still havent won a ranking event and its tough mentally going into a game being such an overwhelming favourite - especially when theyve spent a long time being an underdog - especially in the 1st round of UK's! Pettman and McCleod are no mugs, they are good pros. My bets of the first round was a LAY on Hawkins/Robertson and at 4 frames a piece in both matches. Suprisingly - you can still lay them at odds on and although I justify them as favourite - no where near 1/2 shots. Look forward to everyones posts over the rest of the tourney. Walrus

[Sir Puntalot]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Great post LSL. :ok You have it pretty much in a nutshell, you also seem to have the mentality of a snooker player summed up - you a player yourself? Hawkins etc... do now have a completely different pressure and unfortunately the value is long gone with backing these players. Pettman was a machine a long time ago and feared like not many other snooker players on the Pro-Am circuit, but he clearly doesn't have the self belief or he would have done much more damage than he has currently. Rory can beat Robertson but it will be tough. I know Rory through a friend of mine, and he's very proud of being the first black player to be on tv. He is a tough cookie and mentally very strong, and very talented - he lacks something, I think it might be that extra gear, not entirely sure though, just something missing as good as he is. It's all very tight looking in the first round, so I'm not getting involved just yet. ;)

[superdaz]

Re: UK Snooker Championships do you think john parrott has enough class to come back at 3/1 against mark davis?

[Sir Puntalot]

Re: UK Snooker Championships I wouldn't like to put any of my cash on that personally Daz. ;)

[LockStockLad]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Hi Paul, Just a lover of the game and used to play frequently when I was younger. Ronnie O Sullivan practices down my local snooker hall now, dont know why I say that just thought id share that with you! Ive always found Snooker an intriguing spectacle when it comes to betting. How they price up some of the games is beyond belief and when I look at my betfair account - ive made more profit trading snooker than any other sport. I do believe I have an eye for a player. I remember reading one of your posts and you picked out players that would never win a ranking event - even though they were in the top 16.....Quinten Hann for example. As we speak it looks like Robertson and Hawkins are taking the opening frame of todays session. No doubt thye will now be trading at a price much shorter than 1.5...... LSL

[Mr Intensity]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Look forward to your posts LSL:ok (we need a decent snooker tipster!:lol :loon )

[LockStockLad]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Another thing Id point out Paul is frame betting. The amount of times in the World championship I made a killing where people just dont know there snooker! For example. Ronnies opponent (cant remember who it was hit a 50 odd break and missed, leaving Ronnie amongst them) Ronnie mops up the most the reds and becomes 1/10 on to win the frame (1.1) Now the green is on the side cushion just above the middle pocket and he needs it to win the frame? You and me both no the amount of things that can go wrong. Could miss the cannon, the cannon could go wrong, he could drop in behind (Is rolling the green in deadweight down the cushion a 1/10 shot? Especially if your playing at pace to get on the brown half decent). I personally look for moments like this regualrly and Lay at short odds looking for a mistake to be made. Like I said. Punters get ahead of them selves on Betfair/ Hawkins or Robertson will go 2 clear and then drop down to 1.15 on the exchanges, I dont think this is a fair price for backers and favours a lay. LSL

[davidmphill]

Re: UK Snooker Championships

Look forward to your posts LSL:ok (we need a decent snooker tipster!:lol :loon )

Like your thinking Mr I:ok ;)

[Mr Intensity]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Anyone got any thoughts on the outright? At first glance, the top quarter looks very tough. Hendry has a decent quarter. O'Sullivan has a potential quarter with Stevens. Bottom quarter looks the easiest, but with potential semi against O'Sullivan/Stevens would any decent rading opportunities arise?

Best of 17 Frames 49 Andy Hicks 0 Joe Swail 0 50 David Gray 0 Mark Allen 0 51 Marco Fu (w) 9 Michael Judge 6 52 Quinten Hann 0 Gerard Greene (w) 9 53 Barry Pinches 3 Dominic Dale (w) 9 54 Allister Carter 9 Jamie Cope 3 55 Michael Holt 0 Ricky Walden 0 56 James Wattana 0 Drew Henry 0 57 Mark King 0 Ryan Day 0 58 Barry Hawkins 0 Stuart Pettman 0 59 John Parrott 0 Mark Davis 0 60 Robert Milkins 0 Stuart Bingham 0 61 Ian McCulloch 7 Jamie Burnett (w) 9 62 Anthony Hamilton 0 Ding Junhui 0 63 Neil Robertson 0 Rory McLeod 0 64 Nigel Bond 0 Dave Harold 0	2 Best of 17 Frames 65 Stephen Maguire 0 Winner match 49 0 66 Steve Davis 0 Winner match 50 0 67 Ken Doherty 0 Marco Fu 0 68 John Higgins 0 Gerard Greene 0 69 Peter Ebdon 0 Dominic Dale 0 70 Alan McManus 0 Allister Carter 0 71 Mark Williams 0 Winner match 55 0 72 Stephen Hendry 0 Winner match 56 0 73 Ronnie O'Sullivan 0 Winner match 57 0 74 Joe Perry 0 Winner match 58 0 75 Graeme Dott 0 Winner match 59 0 76 Matthew Stevens 0 Winner match 60 0 77 Paul Hunter 0 Jamie Burnett 0 78 Jimmy White 0 Winner match 62 0 79 Stephen Lee 0 Winner match 63 0 80 Shaun Murphy 0 Winner match 64 0	3 Best of 17 Frames 81 Winner match 65 0 Winner match 66 0 82 Winner match 67 0 Winner match 68 0 83 Winner match 69 0 Winner match 70 0 84 Winner match 71 0 Winner match 72 0 85 Winner match 73 0 Winner match 74 0 86 Winner match 75 0 Winner match 76 0 87 Winner match 77 0 Winner match 78 0 88 Winner match 79 0 Winner match 80 0	Quarter-finals Best of 17 Frames QF1 Winner match 81 0 Winner match 82 0 QF2 Winner match 83 0 Winner match 84 0 QF3 Winner match 85 0 Winner match 86 0 QF4 Winner match 87 0 Winner match 88 0	Semi-finals Best of 17 Frames SF1 Winner match QF1 0 Winner match QF2 0 SF2 Winner match QF3 0 Winner match QF4 0	Final Best of 19 Frames F Winner match SF1 0 Winner match SF2 0
wewe(w) = Winner of Match

[Mr Intensity]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Or click here http://www.worldsnooker.com/latest_drawsheet-42.htm

[kevshat]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Given the form he was in last weekend someone is going to have to play exceptionally well to send O'Sullivan packing but that bottom quarter simply has to be a match between Murphy and Ding. At the prices Ding would probably be best backing. I also fancy Ali Carter to do some damage in the top half of the draw. Lots of big names in that half of the draw but not many of them are in good form based on their Premier League showings.

[LockStockLad]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Carter just hasnt done enough for me over the last few seasons, not sure what the fella lacks but he certainly hasnt made strides like I thought he would. I think McManus is good value there to be honest. He had his best season for a while last year and started to show some belief/confidence just when the season was coming to a close. Positionally he is a tad suspect but ill be laying Carter in running probably. Hes Quite a fast starter and if he wins the first session 3-1 ill be looking to lay at tasty odds. Hawkins Showed his class against Pettman in the end - had to much for him when he got in the balls. McCleod is putting up a brave fight, Robertson is a bit jittery when trying to get over the line! Finely poised at 7 - 7!! LSL

[kevshat]

Re: UK Snooker Championships Carter made the 1/4 finals in this last year before being beaten by Joe Perry. I think the longer matches might well suit him and his run to the final of the Masters qualifying tournament and the way he dealt with a potentially dangerous opponent in round 1 suggests he's in good nick and his section of the draw isn't the worst. I agree he's yet to fulfil his talent and it is difficult to see why not. He definitely has the game to win a tournament it's just putting it all together for a whole week. Having said that look at Murphy, it took him a good 5 years to get anywhere in the game and then he goes and wins the World Championships!!

[LockStockLad]

Re: UK Snooker Championships I can see where your coming from Kev. Ive personally got a few players that I like opposing and unfortunately Carter is one of them. I remember thinking that Wattana was a good bet against him (possibly a final qualifier for the worlds) and he got spanked 9-0! To say I never had one chance to lay him off is an understatement! I agree that the longer format is probably in his favour, but its the same with McManus who had a good run in the worlds this April. Its a close call but again, id price this up just in Carters favour, hes no 8/13 shot in my book.

[kevshat]

Re: UK Snooker Championships True, he's definitely not an 8/13 shot. Angles does worry me a bit, you never know when you are going to catch him hot these days! No doubt he's a very capable player still though. Hopefully if Carter produces his recent form that will be enough to see him through. It won't be a walkover though I don't think. There are certain players that I follow at big prices in the hope that they go in at a big price. I know as a gambler you shouldn't really have them but I guess we all do! In recent seasons I've had Ding, McCulloch, Gray and Jimmy White go in or reach finals at big prices. Having backed Carter for the last year or so I feel I've got to keep backing him in case he goes in this time! Gerard Greene and Ricky Walden are 2 more that I've started following! I'm toying over a couple of tomorrow's matches. Jamie Burnett 11/8 to beat Paul Hunter who with the best will in the World can't have his mind on his snooker and Dominic Dale 13/8 to beat Peter Ebdon. I'm hoping the match that Dale has had will make a difference in that one. I'm also not so sure that Gerard Greene is a 4/1 shot to beat Higgins. I know Higgins was excellent in the Grand Prix but this is a different day. What do you think?

[LockStockLad]

Re: UK Snooker Championships My days of backing Gray are over - I looked past him for the Scottish open a few years back when he one - I remember hovering over the 150/1 button at SportingOdds then didnt go for it. :-( Ricky Walden is an interesting one, maybe Paul can tell us more but Ive liked what ive seen of this Kid. Gerard Greene - not to sure he has the ability to durability to beat Higgins in a race to 9, id swerve from that one or play at very small stakes! Im with you on Burnett to beat Hunter - I think thats a great price and will monitoring that one. Ebdon also looks vulnerable, will post tomorrow as ive a train to catch! All the best Lsl

[Paul]

Re: UK Snooker Championships

Currently it's A.Hamilton 3-5 D.Junhui I'm going to have a small nibble at Gamebookers' Hamilton @ 5.30. He's only 2 frames behind, he's experienced, and he's a decent player. Of course, he'll probably lose the remaining frames now.....:\.

Junhui wins 9-3. I was spot on with my comment:

Of course, he'll probably lose the remaining frames now....

;)