richard-westwood Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Flat goes downhill now in Oct ..with many horses going over the top after a hard season so I draw a line and start the all weather season now ..... 7.00 wolv Destined 8.5 14/1 Surprise picture 8.0 13/2 Chalk mountain 7.9 5/1 Very interesting race to rate... surprise and chalk are well fancied but computer is screaming Ew value on destined at a very tasty 14/1. ...who am I to deny .......let's have a bash at a big prize .....10pt Ew 💪😁...cmon beauty !! MCLARKE, DanV89, black rabbit and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 hours ago, richard-westwood said: Flat goes downhill now in Oct ..with many horses going over the top after a hard season so I draw a line and start the all weather season now ..... 7.00 wolv Destined 8.5 14/1 Surprise picture 8.0 13/2 Chalk mountain 7.9 5/1 Very interesting race to rate... surprise and chalk are well fancied but computer is screaming Ew value on destined at a very tasty 14/1. ...who am I to deny .......let's have a bash at a big prize .....10pt Ew 💪😁...cmon beauty !! Is it worth rating and adding in "how many runs the horse has had" less is more sort of thing? Might be worth just looking at it Rich paper trading even. MCLARKE and black rabbit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Zilzalian said: Is it worth rating and adding in "how many runs the horse has had" less is more sort of thing? Might be worth just looking at it Rich paper trading even. Some horses can take more runs ....some all weather horses can run every 2 weeks and hold form quite well but the higher grade flat horses have tougher races so don't hold form past the point of the arc .....I've learnt by past mistake ..profits seem to tumble in Oct Nov because a lot of horses just won't run anywhere near their best .....some will of course ...probably the lighter raced ones as you say but unless a particular race grabs me it's time to start panning for gold in The all weather pit I'm looking forward to the all weather season though this year...more so than normal ... ....I've upgraded the ratings for all weather so it should provide an lot of fun now ......I'm really hoping a few good wins are forthcoming 😂...... Like ...destined ..today ....even if only 1 in 6 go on to win ...if you get 14/1 each time your gonna be laffin in the long run ...it just ramps up the excitement and makes me wanna try harder 😀 The Equaliser, black rabbit, In Play Race Reader and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Ayr 1342 the defection of Chinese spirit throws a few plans up in the air now and class dropper in stall seven Tele Red win may feel the benefit. I was expecting to be extolling the virtues of another runner but this one has collaborative form superiority by a long way over the two top course winners here. A five pound claim is the clincher and a last win over the trip was in the grade above. Galway 1350 Les pour filles @ evens win armed and fabulous each way at the current prices these two are of interest. gordon Elliott may have a horse here. Jack Kennedy rides and this one was finishing to very good effect in good company to take fifth in a grade one bumper at Liverpool in the spring. With a comfortable staying on performance over a Willie Mullins horse at the Boxing Day festival and a point to point win, this horse is unbeaten over two miles and also unbeaten outside of class 1 company. Armed and fabulous makes most appeal of the Mullins horses and switches from Mags Mullins here. olympic man the mount of Patrick Mullins who gets the pick of the rides, is hugely respected, especially as the yard’s regime of training and nutrition brings about marked improvement in horses which few yards are able to replicate legally. He hasn’t lit up the world as yet but has to be the main danger given the riding arrangements. Obviously with a point to point pedigree He’s going to be a good novice hurdler this year and clearly wants much further so needs every yard of the extra 160 available here before chasing beckons at the end of next year. Edited October 3, 2023 by Sporting Sam Nigwilliam, The Equaliser, black rabbit and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black rabbit Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Flash Bulb 4 32 Ayr 1/40th of a pt ew 66/1 Rock Melody 3 22 Ayr 1/40th of a pt win 8/1 Edited October 3, 2023 by black rabbit The Equaliser and LEE-GRAYS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 8 hours ago, richard-westwood said: Some horses can take more runs ....some all weather horses can run every 2 weeks and hold form quite well but the higher grade flat horses have tougher races so don't hold form past the point of the arc .....I've learnt by past mistake ..profits seem to tumble in Oct Nov because a lot of horses just won't run anywhere near their best .....some will of course ...probably the lighter raced ones as you say but unless a particular race grabs me it's time to start panning for gold in The all weather pit I'm looking forward to the all weather season though this year...more so than normal ... ....I've upgraded the ratings for all weather so it should provide an lot of fun now ......I'm really hoping a few good wins are forthcoming 😂...... Like ...destined ..today ....even if only 1 in 6 go on to win ...if you get 14/1 each time your gonna be laffin in the long run ...it just ramps up the excitement and makes me wanna try harder 😀 I do agree with you and concur that my ratings also take a hit here on in but like you say don't dismiss all horses/races/meetings being selective can produce the odd nice butty. I think @MCLARKE is also looking forward to the AW, although the horses are of a lower standard they seem to be tough and reasonably consistent. and it gets us through the winter, look out for the Breeders cup and my favourite Meydan, year on year i make good money at Meydan starts December thru March so the horses are worth tracking. 😀 MCLARKE and Bedlam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Zilzalian said: I do agree with you and concur that my ratings also take a hit here on in but like you say don't dismiss all horses/races/meetings being selective can produce the odd nice butty. I think @MCLARKE is also looking forward to the AW, although the horses are of a lower standard they seem to be tough and reasonably consistent. and it gets us through the winter, look out for the Breeders cup and my favourite Meydan, year on year i make good money at Meydan starts December thru March so the horses are worth tracking. 😀 Only thing I find at meydan is I don't have a set of decent standards and the form from there seems inflated and doesn't seem to translate to other courses etc ....it's something I've got to look into this season .......that's why I tend to avoid it currently but I agree it's a potential untapped goldmine as it's no diff from the other aw courses This season I'm trying to get a few pars together for our aw courses ...for eg I noticed at say wolv for example in some races a TS of 41 plus is usually required to win a class 5 .... in some races you might have 6 horses that have only achieved say 32 ....then 2 horses only that have ever gone 40 plus so already your off to a flyer .. and I know there's many more so that's my goal this season lol 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) les pour filles non runner quote “Obviously with a point to point pedigree He’s going to be a good novice hurdler this year and clearly wants much further so needs every yard of the extra 160 available here before chasing beckons at the end of next year.”…. Typically main runner in Ireland has been pulled and left with a slashed 8/1 ticket ( armed and fabulous) which will barely pay without winning. Sedgfield 2pmThat’s jet Win Ran well behind a subsequent next time out winner who lost that race in the stewards afterwards. No great shakes on the flat but transformed over hurdles and brings good form from Ireland and the experience might just be enough on debut for Scottish yard. Other flat horses have more scope with more runs to come but this one has the hurdle runs on the cv already. Edited October 3, 2023 by Sporting Sam Bedlam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: Only thing I find at meydan is I don't have a set of decent standards and the form from there seems inflated and doesn't seem to translate to other courses etc ....it's something I've got to look into this season .......that's why I tend to avoid it currently but I agree it's a potential untapped goldmine as it's no diff from the other aw courses This season I'm trying to get a few pars together for our aw courses ...for eg I noticed at say wolv for example in some races a TS of 41 plus is usually required to win a class 5 .... in some races you might have 6 horses that have only achieved say 32 ....then 2 horses only that have ever gone 40 plus so already your off to a flyer .. and I know there's many more so that's my goal this season lol 😆 If you need past results for Meydan Racing | Latest Results (dubairacingclub.com) says latest but you can go back years. good luck with that. 👏 richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossa6133 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 The proper stuff starts at Chepstow a week on Friday! No need to resort to AW or Meydan 😁 Zilzalian and Bedlam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 weigh anchor 2.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 bona fortune 2.15 ew The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 city vaults 2.35 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 17 hours ago, richard-westwood said: Flat goes downhill now in Oct ..with many horses going over the top after a hard season so I draw a line and start the all weather season now ..... 7.00 wolv Destined 8.5 14/1 Surprise picture 8.0 13/2 Chalk mountain 7.9 5/1 Very interesting race to rate... surprise and chalk are well fancied but computer is screaming Ew value on destined at a very tasty 14/1. ...who am I to deny .......let's have a bash at a big prize .....10pt Ew 💪😁...cmon beauty !! As low as 8/1 with pp....maybe we will get a run ...😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 artic ambition 2.25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 uncle o 2.20 ew The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Ayr 1447 Hartswood eachvway AYR POET Win Nigwilliam and The Equaliser 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Tele red form royally franked by hartswood who confirmed their clash form was rock solid and that opens up a few more lines of form if you care to peek and future winners assured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Galway 3pm getaway master win eye catching fifth here over further well backed over this trip the time before and looks a good sort who could be in the mix at the end…. Edited October 3, 2023 by Sporting Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Ayr 1522 draw data horse Abduction win Abduction Has a record of 3-4 over C&D, including a win in this contest last year carries six pounds more this time and could be why his jockey is on the other runner. Rock Melody win impossible to second guess this yard. Lasts year’s winner won this from stall 10 and again has the outside draw. After two ‘anomalies’ in the five year draw data the adjusted stall taking that into account is stall 7. There are only seven runners and Paul mulhrenan jumps across to ride Rock melody in stall 1. the traverse stall here to Abduction. Goldies runners have faced stiff opposition here and this is going to be tough. In form Richard Fahey has to be feared. Edited October 3, 2023 by Sporting Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Ayr 1557 draw data Burning the bails win Kracken power each way Goes over seven for yard for first time. not disgraced for Ian Jardine in a group race over this trip at goodwood. last win under this jockey, who he doesn’t seem to like! the rider put up five pounds overweight. Edited October 3, 2023 by Sporting Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Wolverhampton 1700 Amroon win can go close here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Galway 1720De capoWinFor Gordon Elliott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Ayr 1737 draw data horse heatherdown hero each way aigheir each way cantalupo Bella win jim goldie has the draw data horse as well as last years winner. aigheir Won this of a pound higher mark an off 9:1 and runs off 8:13 before the jockeys claim Heatherdown hero last won off a two pound higher mark for previous yard and is notable jockey gets off last year’s winner as he did with Abduction. Canterlupo Bella is the springer horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Wolverhampton 1800 ciotog each way francessi win all depends if they go off quickly if they do ciotog on turf form can pick them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 he's a gentleman 6.30 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzybear Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 the cruising lord 7.00 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sporting Sam Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Wolverhampton 1900 suprise picture chalk mountain both win both won on their last visit here top weight with a penalty Bottom weight unbeaten on the course Set to meet on the traverse at the draw and by the weights. One of these two should win, if nothing else gets in the way. The Equaliser and yossa6133 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossa6133 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Hope you did the forecast Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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