BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August

[Aidymac]

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[Aidymac]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August *Kahruman - York 3:05* Very competitive race but i like this Haggas horse, and when the money comes for Haggas, it is usually spot on. This horse is very lightly raced and was a very fast finishing 6th of 29 in the Brittania last time out, was a very eye-catching run. Has won over this trip at Kempton, and if it can reproduce it's run last time out could be hard to beat. Hanagan is on again and that is a positive. Haggas stable is in ok form, and 6 of Haggas's last 20 runners at York have won. Big field so i will go e/w. *0.5 Points e/w @ 13/2 Paddy Power BOG*

[robertob]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 17.05 Bath: Peachez @ 4/1 Bet365 Peachez done well as a 3yo last year, winning twice, including here at Bath. She started the new season only in June, raced then twice over 10f, not very successful but was much better back over 12f lto at Folkestone. She finished 2nd there but ran on very well in the closing stages and was just beaten by front-runner Mazij who was able to safe enough energy thanks to a rather slow pace throughout the race. This was just 11 days ago and Peachez looks in fine form. She's able to race off the same mark again. Five pound claimer Amy Scott is booked for the ride who won on Peachez at Bath last year already. A good deal of pace looks on the card in this race tomorrow, what would be surly beneficial for Peachez, only concern is the ground. It may still be a bit soft tomorrow and I'm not completely sure if that suits her entirely. If ground is no problem then I expect her to win this anyway.

[Blazing Bailey]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August York 200 - Indian Jade 20/1 PaddyPower BOG Not my usual type of bet this one but I think the form of this one's 8th in the Coventry has worked out extremely well with a lot of the horses infront going on to win or place in Group races. He faded out of it a little at the end and maybe the ground wasnt quite quick enough or the climb took it out of him but he has been rested and presumably saved for this race. That form is probably the best on offer even if he was beaten 8 lengths and with conditions looking as though they will play to his strengths, I think 20/1 is too big. On jockey bookings he is the second string, but he has the dependable Graham Lee on his back tomorrow which I personally see as a plus.

[santos_]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August York 3.40 - The Fugue 7/4 Boylesports Picked up a deserved Group 1 success in the Nassau lto at Goodwood with an impressive display and given how she travelled and then quickened really impressed me. Has run 5 sound races all season and can't not see her being involved here. Shareta looks the big threat on paper but Im sticking with The Fugue to up her game once more.

[Bathtime For Rupert]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 2.00 York - 1pt win Hototo @ 11/1 (Bet365) It's plausible that I'm mad for having a pretty solid bet in such a contest. These races full of unexposed types normally aren't my cup of tea unless there's one that sticks out big time and this is one of those cases for last year's winning trainer and jockey. He has to saddle a 5lb penalty for his win in the Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot but that race has worked out pretty nicely and he brings the strongest form the table in the race in my opinion. I think there's a lot of deadwood in the race and only Rocky Ground really concerns me out of those with very unexposed profiles. That will probably come back to haunt me but I think my selection sets a good standard and conditions here should be absolutely bang on. He was a very encouraging close 3rd on debut having been hampered and deprived of a clear run. He came home well behind a now 80-rated animal and shaped as if there was plenty more to come. He was no match for the talented Cay Verde at Ascot next time but that one is a smart animal himself and the soft ground wouldn't have been ideal for Kevin Ryan's charge. He did manage to get off the mark over 5f at Ayr next time out, though. He raced a bit keenly before coming to challenge but still seemed a bit green and didn't do much when in front. Phillip Makin didn't really reach for the stick and I think there was still something left in the locker for all it was a narrow margin success. The runner-up is now rated 86 and the pair were 6l clear. His victory in the Windsor Castle came next as he battled on well to score by 1/2l but I don't think he was really stopping at the line and the race worked out well. Horses came out of it to win Group 2, Group 3 and listed events as well as a good run in a Group 1 and a few winning maidens and running well in handicap company. He's run well the last twice but conditions haven't been ideal for him I don't think as the heavy ground wouldn't have been up his street in the Super Sprint at Newbury. He only went down by 2 lengths in the end and gave plenty of weight to most of his rivals. There's a 9lb swing today with the winner of that event which can see the form reversed in my eyes. Hototo ran in the Molecomb at Goodwood last time but that wasn't an ideal test for him. He's not an absolute speed merchant which can be necessary there, but stayed on to be 3rd in the end and looked ill at ease on the undulating track. He did well to finish 3rd in my eyes and showed that he'd relish the step up to 6f. He gets that today on ground that suits and the flat track could prove pivotal to him as he has looked uncomfortable when facing undulations. He's got rock solid form and should get a nice lead into the race without being far away. I like those tactics at York and Phillip Makin has chosen this one over Ryan's other (no forlorn hope) runner. He's drawn high, surrounded by a huge amount of pace so should have a nice run into the contest so long as Makin doesn't go off too fast.

[Edberg]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 5.35 Bath CHAPTER NINE win @ 11/8 bog (Paddy Power and William Hill) Had a good start of his career in Irleand back in 2009 with a good second on debut at Navan (10f, 23-runner maiden) and a neck win at Dundalk (11f, 14-runner maiden), both in October 2009. Started his handicap career in 2010 off 78 and his mark never was never below 70 until last December even if the gelding collected just a few places. Changed 3 yards (Coogan, Fitzgerald and Gorman) before joining Seamus Mullins a few months ago and coming back after a 5-month break with his mark dropped to the basement level Chapter Nine showed he still retains some good abilities and finished 3rd at Brighton (1m4f, good to soft) in a selling handicap off 46 15 days ago and won in impressive style over today's C&D (good ground) in a similar class 6 handicap off 45. More than the 3.5L gap between him and the second what impressed was the way he won, very very easily. So under a 6lb mandatory penalty he can race here off 51 while the handicapper correctly sent him up to 56 and is therefore 5lb ahead of the handicapper here. Moreover the booking of William Twiston-Davies is another help as the young promising apprentice jockey claims 3lb off his back in what is an apprentice handicap. Finch Flyer and Captain Oats are the main dangers because they are both running well but the Aytach Sadik-trained 5yo won only once in 22 starts and it was 2 years ago off today's same mark of 52, ran well last time out back on the flat (very close 3rd over 10f at Nottingham off this mark) after a spell over hurdles, but has had many chances off this mark and doesn't look particularly well handicapped. While the 9yo trained by Pam Ford is still a maiden after 25 career start and even if he finished second on both visits here at Bath (latest on his second last start in June in a similar race but off a 3lb lower mark) and was second again last time out at Chepstow (1m4f, good to soft) off a 1lb lower mark (two weeks ago) neither Finch Flyer nor Captain Oats seem a big threat for my selection.

[BillyHills]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 800 Cartmel: Carmela Maria 1pt (10/1 Stan James) SJ go 10/1 about this and is worth taking as it must start shorter than that? Has winning form in the ground and some of these wont like the soft ground and will struggle to get home. The mare has had a couple of starts this season and while not setting the world alight she has ran respectably and now races off 7lbs less than she ended last season. The race is pretty weak and course specialist Flying Doctor would have a chance if the ground dried up any. I'm not keen on Is It Me and the fav has only tried this type of trip once and has enough weight for a horse yet to win over timber.

[wizzkid walter]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 2:30 York - Newfangled - Back This looks a very good race but Newfangled leaps out off the page. Won nicely on debut but was outstanding lto and will have caught many an eye. That was in a Group 3 which looked a big step up on only his 2nd run but he won so well and left the impression that he is a seriously good prospect and could destined for the top level. This isn't easy by any stretch but he has a huge chance based on that lto win and I think he could well complete the hat-trick here 1pt win @ Evens Hills BOG

[wizzkid walter]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 2:30 York - Newfangled - Back This looks a very good race but Newfangled leaps out off the page. Won nicely on debut but was outstanding lto and will have caught many an eye. That was in a Group 3 which looked a big step up on only his 2nd run but he won so well and left the impression that he is a seriously good prospect and could destined for the top level. This isn't easy by any stretch but he has a huge chance based on that lto win and I think he could well complete the hat-trick here 1pt win @ Evens Hills BOG

[Lodge]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August York - 16.50 - Night Lily @ 14/1 Bet365 Strong AW performer who i felt ran very well at Goodwood in group 3 company. She travelled nicely, but didn't quite have the pace to go with the front trio finishing only 3L back in 6th. Today she goes back into handicap company off a mark of 89 which certainly shouldn't be beyond her in my books, she has won off higher marks on the AW and has proved she can still mix it with better company on her last couple of outings. Drawn wide in stall 15 and i don't feel it will cause too much of an issue, she is normally held up and can hopefully come with a nice late run down the long straight. My main worry is that she is 0/14 over 7f (all career wins are at 8f) but the ground conditions are perfect - all her turf wins have been on good-firm or firm. And she has one of the best 7lb claimers around booked in Micheal Murphy. He's riding winners for fun at the minute and he won on the only time he has rode for Paul D'Arcy

[cpo]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 4.50 York shesastar 1pt win @ 18/1 betvictor This looks a stronger race than last year but my selection won this last year off a 9lb lower mark quite comfortably. She has got better with racing this year and finally got off the mark at Doncaster where she beat an in form horse in dancheur. I don't think she was suited by the small field at Newmarket last time out but this should be much more to her liking. David Barron likes to have winners here and gibbons has rose this horse plenty of times before. I have my doubts over the favourite getting the trip so I will take her on with shesastar and hope she can follow up in the race.

[corky]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August 1430 york 1pt win newfangled eve bet365 won its only 2 races over todays distance of 6 furlongs, only concern is it has only won on soft ground, and today is good to firm, but has won wit such ease the conditions could help this become a better horse,buick takes the ride, and the danger may be the haggas horse

[Aidymac]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August

2.00 York - 1pt win Hototo @ 11/1 (Bet365) It's plausible that I'm mad for having a pretty solid bet in such a contest. These races full of unexposed types normally aren't my cup of tea unless there's one that sticks out big time and this is one of those cases for last year's winning trainer and jockey. He has to saddle a 5lb penalty for his win in the Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot but that race has worked out pretty nicely and he brings the strongest form the table in the race in my opinion. I think there's a lot of deadwood in the race and only Rocky Ground really concerns me out of those with very unexposed profiles. That will probably come back to haunt me but I think my selection sets a good standard and conditions here should be absolutely bang on. He was a very encouraging close 3rd on debut having been hampered and deprived of a clear run. He came home well behind a now 80-rated animal and shaped as if there was plenty more to come. He was no match for the talented Cay Verde at Ascot next time but that one is a smart animal himself and the soft ground wouldn't have been ideal for Kevin Ryan's charge. He did manage to get off the mark over 5f at Ayr next time out, though. He raced a bit keenly before coming to challenge but still seemed a bit green and didn't do much when in front. Phillip Makin didn't really reach for the stick and I think there was still something left in the locker for all it was a narrow margin success. The runner-up is now rated 86 and the pair were 6l clear. His victory in the Windsor Castle came next as he battled on well to score by 1/2l but I don't think he was really stopping at the line and the race worked out well. Horses came out of it to win Group 2, Group 3 and listed events as well as a good run in a Group 1 and a few winning maidens and running well in handicap company. He's run well the last twice but conditions haven't been ideal for him I don't think as the heavy ground wouldn't have been up his street in the Super Sprint at Newbury. He only went down by 2 lengths in the end and gave plenty of weight to most of his rivals. There's a 9lb swing today with the winner of that event which can see the form reversed in my eyes. Hototo ran in the Molecomb at Goodwood last time but that wasn't an ideal test for him. He's not an absolute speed merchant which can be necessary there, but stayed on to be 3rd in the end and looked ill at ease on the undulating track. He did well to finish 3rd in my eyes and showed that he'd relish the step up to 6f. He gets that today on ground that suits and the flat track could prove pivotal to him as he has looked uncomfortable when facing undulations. He's got rock solid form and should get a nice lead into the race without being far away. I like those tactics at York and Phillip Makin has chosen this one over Ryan's other (no forlorn hope) runner. He's drawn high, surrounded by a huge amount of pace so should have a nice run into the contest so long as Makin doesn't go off too fast.

Lovely winner mate. :clap

[gman1]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August unanimous 725 tipperary 2/1 hills on a hatrick for the in form coolmore stable, and with joseph at home instead of at york you have to fancy it and believe they do too. unpenalised for a handicap success on monday and should go in again now hes on a roll

[mattmcandrew]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August I might as well jump on the Chapter Nine bandwagon for the day. He is very well in against a very poor field. His price isn't great but really represents what he is up against here. Chapter Nine at 5/4 with Blue Square, Bath's 5.35.

[BillyHills]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August Late ones;

800 Cartmel: Carmela Maria 1pt (10/1 Stan James) SJ go 10/1 about this and is worth taking as it must start shorter than that? Has winning form in the ground and some of these wont like the soft ground and will struggle to get home. The mare has had a couple of starts this season and while not setting the world alight she has ran respectably and now races off 7lbs less than she ended last season. The race is pretty weak and course specialist Flying Doctor would have a chance if the ground dried up any. I'm not keen on Is It Me and the fav has only tried this type of trip once and has enough weight for a horse yet to win over timber.

unanimous 725 tipperary 2/1 hills on a hatrick for the in form coolmore stable, and with joseph at home instead of at york you have to fancy it and believe they do too. unpenalised for a handicap success on monday and should go in again now hes on a roll

[Falbrav]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August BERBERANA 7.45 Folkestone. 1 point win. Handicap mark dropping to an all-time low and his last run wasn't that bad to be fair. Can improve a bit on that, and if she can show more of what she's capable of, then she can make the odds on favourite work very hard this evening. Trip and ground fine. 7/1 Bet365 BOG

[Verisimilitude]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August Oniz Tiptoes 8.00 Cartmel. 1 point win. Good horse and always appears to try his best at this track. The trip and ground's fine and the handicapper gives him chances off a mark of 91. Also, the race should be run to suit him. 11/1 William Hill (bog)

[Blazing Bailey]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 23rd of August

2.00 York - 1pt win Hototo @ 11/1 (Bet365) It's plausible that I'm mad for having a pretty solid bet in such a contest. These races full of unexposed types normally aren't my cup of tea unless there's one that sticks out big time and this is one of those cases for last year's winning trainer and jockey. He has to saddle a 5lb penalty for his win in the Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot but that race has worked out pretty nicely and he brings the strongest form the table in the race in my opinion. I think there's a lot of deadwood in the race and only Rocky Ground really concerns me out of those with very unexposed profiles. That will probably come back to haunt me but I think my selection sets a good standard and conditions here should be absolutely bang on. He was a very encouraging close 3rd on debut having been hampered and deprived of a clear run. He came home well behind a now 80-rated animal and shaped as if there was plenty more to come. He was no match for the talented Cay Verde at Ascot next time but that one is a smart animal himself and the soft ground wouldn't have been ideal for Kevin Ryan's charge. He did manage to get off the mark over 5f at Ayr next time out, though. He raced a bit keenly before coming to challenge but still seemed a bit green and didn't do much when in front. Phillip Makin didn't really reach for the stick and I think there was still something left in the locker for all it was a narrow margin success. The runner-up is now rated 86 and the pair were 6l clear. His victory in the Windsor Castle came next as he battled on well to score by 1/2l but I don't think he was really stopping at the line and the race worked out well. Horses came out of it to win Group 2, Group 3 and listed events as well as a good run in a Group 1 and a few winning maidens and running well in handicap company. He's run well the last twice but conditions haven't been ideal for him I don't think as the heavy ground wouldn't have been up his street in the Super Sprint at Newbury. He only went down by 2 lengths in the end and gave plenty of weight to most of his rivals. There's a 9lb swing today with the winner of that event which can see the form reversed in my eyes. Hototo ran in the Molecomb at Goodwood last time but that wasn't an ideal test for him. He's not an absolute speed merchant which can be necessary there, but stayed on to be 3rd in the end and looked ill at ease on the undulating track. He did well to finish 3rd in my eyes and showed that he'd relish the step up to 6f. He gets that today on ground that suits and the flat track could prove pivotal to him as he has looked uncomfortable when facing undulations. He's got rock solid form and should get a nice lead into the race without being far away. I like those tactics at York and Phillip Makin has chosen this one over Ryan's other (no forlorn hope) runner. He's drawn high, surrounded by a huge amount of pace so should have a nice run into the contest so long as Makin doesn't go off too fast.

Good choice! I backed both of Ryan's runners but put the wrong one up on here... That will teach me not to be greedy and go for the bigger price! ha